There's Got To Be a Morning After


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We've had a busy week and, much to our dismay, haven't had a chance to chronicle all the distortions and lies of the Fox haters. So we're going to play a little catch-up, and check in on the newshounds (another fine product of the Outfoxed cabal).

What would a week be without some kind of doctored quote from deborah? She describes a debate between Ellis Hennican and Rich Lowry, and then delivers one of her zingers:
When Hennican mentioned that the outing was a payback, Lowry defended that tactic saying, "Who wrote the rule that Joe Wilson gets to attack the Bush Administration?"

Lowry's response sounds fairly nonsensical, but that was debbie's intent. Despite her reputation as the grand mistress of counterfeit quotes, her allegation alone was enough to convince the credulous:
Good question, I'm not sure which of the founding fathers wrote the first ammendement [sic].

I'm not sure who wrote the first amendment either about the right to free speech- However, I do know a damn lot of cemeteries are filled with people who died defending it.

I think just saying the founding fathers and our constitution will suffice.

Lowry's actual quote:

LOWRY: Who wrote the rule that Joe Wilson gets to attack the Bush administration and be dishonest about what he's doing, without any push back?

It's clear: reporting Lowry's complete statement wouldn't make him look stupid, so deb just slices off that part she finds inconvenient, and the sheeple all fall into line. Just as this classic newspoodle HeadLie:
Fox News Recruits Bernie Goldberg For Rove Duty

One wonders what exactly Mr Goldberg had to say about Rove, and debbie is quick to detail his comments on the matter:
Bernard Goldberg appeared on Fox & Friends this morning with a specific mission in mind.Goldberg [sic] crafted his message with Steve Doocy's help to discredit journalists and label them irresponsible to help the case for Rove.

Um, yes. But what did he say about Rove? Incredibly, deborah doesn't tell us. Could that be because neither Goldberg, nor Doocy, discussed Rove in the interview? Could that be because Rove's name never came up even once in that segment? That was certainly the opinion of one commenter, who asked:
How about: "Fox News Recruits Viveca Novak of Time For Rove Duty"? She got TWO segments on F&F, and she actually discussed Rove. But you choose to discuss an interview where Rove was never mentioned. Curious.

Yes, Ms Novak was another "invisible man", ignored by deb because her segments contradicted the hound lie that there was some sort of Rove defense agenda going on. Oh, but debbie had an explanation for all that:
Not curious at all. I'm saving her for part of a future post today.

That was July 18. That "future post" must really be in the future, because it has yet to appear. We suggest not holding your breath.

Meanwhile, nancy is rabid about one of David Asman's "observer" segments, and her "report" includes this entreaty:
At the end of the segment, Asman invited viewers to email comments. Please do: feedback@foxnews.com.

Now nancy claims the newspooches watch Fox "so you don't have to", but it doesn't seem that the doggies watch very closely. If she actually saw the segment she was writing about, why would she have given out the wrong email address? Again, a commenter ("the reasonable man") pointed out her careless mistake, and, right on cue, the credulous cretins rushed to defend her mistake:
Call something that's verifiably correct (feedback@foxnews.com) incorrect to divert and mock.

No, call something that's verifiably wrong what it is: a lazy, sloppy mistake. But we don't mind--it all led to a great moment the next day from Mr Asman himself [QuickTime video clip]:



It will surprise no one that the above clip is one the hounds somehow never got around to mentioning.

When paranoia strikes deep, into each newsmutt it will creep. How else to explain Melanie, who begins her descend into dementia with this HeadLie:
Fox Trumps Bush: SCOTUS Nominee Is Definitely Clement

Of course, Fox never reported any such thing, but we'll let that pass, as it serves to introduce a classic exemplar of hound logic. You see, Donald Trump was on the phone, and he thought Clement was the nominee, and Cavuto said no that's just speculation, and...well, we'll let Mel take it from here:
Two minutes earlier Brit Hume said that any discussion about the nominee being Clement was way out of line and pure speculation. This could be a deception or it could be real. If it's a deception, did Donald Trump knowingly participate? If so, it could speak to the willingness of the ruling class to participate in duping we mere mortals. If it's not a deception, it could speak to how "inside information" flies amongst the ruling class and about how much inside information Fox really has. It could also prove Hume lied when he said a discussion about Clement being the nominee was pure speculation. Either way, Fox appears to be working for the White House.

Have you got that? If it's true, Fox is working for the White House. If it's not...well..the same thing. Heads we win, tails you lose. But just when maybe a half-dozen heads were spinning after having read this brilliant exegesis, the news broke, and Melanie gave us the capper:
UPDATE: 9:00 p.m. ET: Bush's nominee is John G. Roberts, Jr. I think the exchange between Cavuto and Trump is more intriguing than ever now.

Say what? Don't bother trying to make sense of it. Hound logic.

But Melanie on her best day could never have embarrassed herself and the Fox haters as badly as Donna has. This gem of fevered misinformation stands as one of the curs' most fatuous follies:
A small, but significant segment appeared on Studio B today. Greg Kelly (substituting for Shepard Smith) did a story on the morning after pill. However, on Fox, the morning after pill became the 'abortion pill'. Calling it the abortion pill and also having a banner that read 'abortion pill' sends a strong message to Fox watchers. This pill is widely known as the morning after pill. The story was to tell everyone that the FDA was warning that there may be dangers out there if you take the morning after pill.

Of course, this mishmash of malarkey instantly convinced the credulous:
[Fox] is apparently creating their own dictionary of terms.

Before any of your nazicon right-wingnuts make your comments about the MAP indeed “causing an abortion", please educate yourself on its function.

this is not the only thing that they [Fox] have changed the name of...

But the truth is, Fox's report was not about the "morning after pill" at all. It was about RU-486, the subject of the FDA warning. Donna apparently believes that they are the same thing. But even CNN recognizes the difference:

Morning-after pills are not the same as the so-called abortion pill, RU-486.

What's this? CNN is using the "Fox" term "abortion pill"? And what's more, they're using it in December, 2003--a year and a half before Fox "changed its name"? In fact, CNN's story on the FDA warning uses the "Fox" term "abortion pill" in its headline! And they're not alone:
  • "The Food and Drug Administration has an important warning about the abortion pill, RU-486."--NBC
  • "The government warned doctors Tuesday to be on the lookout for rare but deadly infections in women using the abortion pill RU-486"--Associated Press
  • "FDA Warns Doctors to Watch for Deadly Infections in Women Using Abortion Pill RU-486"--ABC News
  • "Following five deaths linked to the abortion pill RU-486"--WebMD
  • "two more cases of California women who died after using the abortion pill RU-486"--San Francisco Chronicle
  • " involving use of the so-called abortion pill at home"--BBC News

Faced with mounting evidence of her ignorance and tendentious distortions, Donna had no choice but to backpedal. But even in doing so, she had to insert falsehoods into her apology, turning it into a "liepology":
Fox was speaking about RU-486, which is the so called 'abortion pill'. So, I apologize for that but will remain with the story as Fox presened [sic] the story in a confusing manner that most people would think they were talking about the morning after pill. I think it was a definite 'blurring' of the lines.

Heaven forbid one of the newsliars would actually admit they were wrong. Instead, fabricate an outright, blatant lie about how "confusing" the story was. In fact, Fox never even mentioned the morning after pill. Hear for yourself [mp3 audio file].

KELLY: The Food and Drug Administration issuing a warning about an abortion drug. The Feds telling doctors to be on the lookout for a rare and deadly infection in women who take RU-486. At least five women have died after taking the pill since it hit the market in 2000, but the FDA says it can't prove that the drug was to blame. The maker of RU-486 says there is no link, but it is still sending out a warning to doctors and updating drug labels.

How exactly was this report "confusing"? Where does it "blur the lines"? Answer: it doesn't. Donna just made that up. Her article was a phony, and rather than admit a mistake, she lies about the report to justify her own ignorance. The louder the anti-Fox terriers howl about "bias" and "distortion" on Fox, the more clearly they reveal that it is the hounds--not Fox--whose hateful lies have exposed them for what they are.

posted: Fri - July 22, 2005 at 03:05 PM       j$p  send 

SLLamp
LMAO I didn't see that FNL...David Asman ROCKS!!
July 22, 2005, 4:44:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Denise
What's even more troubling than the label "abortion pill" is that it isn't RU486 that is the problem, it's a bacteria that people can get from any number of medical procedures. Men have died from the same excact bacterial infection after knee surgery and women have died from it after giving birth. It's a RARE infection, not the RU486 that is the problem.
July 22, 2005, 9:01:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


SLLamp
Ok but Greg Kelly was just reporting on an FDA warning. The report also stated that the drug maker says there is no link, and the FDA said it could not prove the drug was to blame. FNC didn't blur anything, or report anything inaccurately as Donna claimed.
July 22, 2005, 9:22:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Eric aka Grumpy Eric
Donna did make some admission of guilt, conceding that the report was accurate.
 
Unfortunately, she turned right around and blamed _Her confusion on Fox's reporting.
 
Donna decidedly doesn't like me and is deleting my posts (along with a poster going by the name "reasonable man" and another using the moniker "truth"), since we are all challenging her faulty premises in that thread. And I've been picking on her faulty bashing on other threads, too, and getting deleted. 
 
I guess to join in over there, you have to buy into the basic lies and distortions. Being polite and staying on topic doesn't keep you from being censored.
 
BTW, several posts claim that "reasonable man" is Johnny Dollar. Before that, I'd never heard of J$ or seen this site. Is that true? If so, keep at 'em, Fox-fan.
July 29, 2005, 6:00:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Eric aka Grumpy Eric
Headline: neophyte offers apologies!!!
 
oops, sorry for the double-post. I'm new at this game.
July 29, 2005, 6:03:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
No problem grumpy; I nuked the duplicate post. And no, J$ is not "the reasonable man", though we do know each other.
 
I am informed by "the reasonable man" that he has been banned over there. They only put up with people who accept what they say about Fox as true. Anyone who questions the mistakes and lies they print will get banned. There can be no dissent on this point because every falsehood pointed out takes another chink out of their credibility and reveals them to be little more than extremist political hacks.
 
Glad to have you on board. Grumpy people are especially welcome!
July 29, 2005, 6:25:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grumpy Eric
Thank you, J$, for both the delete & the welcome.
 
BTW, it was a poster at the newshounds site that gave me the "Grumpy", since I was pooh-poohing one of their "reporters".
 
I only get grumpy when presented with B.S. And then I'm harsh, but try to stay civil. Someone else over there berated me for being so judgemental. Moral relativism doesn't sit well with me. And judgement requires knowledge. So, I was quite pleased with what they thought was an insult.
 
From the looks of your site, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of analysis & topical discussion. Just busy refuting the mind-vampires with the light of truth and facts. Hell of a full-time job if you ask me. Facts don't seem to matter very much to such as those.
 
But, I've bookmarked your site and hope to engage in some good discussions from time to time. I never mastered the art of brevity, so apologies in advance.
 
Best wishes to you from the gleeful Grump,
July 29, 2005, 7:40:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
We instituted the comments so that we could bat things around a bit. Glad to have you on board.
July 29, 2005, 8:12:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


john t
[comment deleted for rules violation: personal attacks and name calling] The second thing you would welcome anybody on this pathetic site even if they were a serial killer.

Edited By Siteowner
July 30, 2005, 10:09:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
john t, as to your first point, I'll give you the opportunity to document your statement with facts and proof. If you can't, then it will get nuked as per the rules of posting.
 
As to your second thing, I concede you may have a point. After all, we let you post here.
July 30, 2005, 10:33:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
What a shocker--jt slinked away without providing any backup whatsoever for his defamation. So it has been nuked as per the rules of posting.
 
Don't shoot without powder.
August 1, 2005, 12:15:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply