Outrage: Fox Haters Ridicule MS Patient!


Just when you think they can't possibly get any more vile, they prove you wrong.

There is nothing beyond the pale. Any insult, regardless how crude... any smear, no matter how ugly... it's all fair game in the world of the misanthropic Fox haters. We won't say that this time the newshounds have gone too far, because that would imply that it hasn't happened before, that they hadn't insulted Christianity by calling the birth of Christ "nonsense", or that they hadn't demeaned Mort Kondracke because he didn't appear happy when he had just laid to rest his deceased wife, or smeared a Fox anchor by circulating the ugliest sort of personal slanders.

This story begins with Melanie, who took umbrage at an interview with a U.S. soldier back from Iraq. She may have made fun of the veteran's appearance ("baby-faced"), but that's not showing disrespect for the troops, is it, Mel? She so despised his message (the media should show more of the good things the US does there) that she took it to the next level: denounce the host of the show for having the audacity to let this person even be heard, ending her diatribe with:
Neil, you're "the media." Why don't you gather all the resources News Corp. can muster and get yourself a contingent of Humvees and get your ass over to Iraq and spend a week in country visiting all those hospitals and schools and bridges that we're building. If you're so pissed off about this, do it yourself!

Our story began with Melanie, but it didn't end there, as the rest of the haters came out of the kennel to bark their agreement:
  • What a good closing comment.
  • Cavuto? In Iraq? Trolling around in an armored vehicle? No, no hummvee. Not enough armor there.
  • ...that incompetent Neil Cavuto promising to find good news stories out of Iraq...
  • Does Neil Cavuto even know he is a part of the Media?
  • Just tell Cavuto they're opening a Hooters in Baghdad offering free beer and sex to chubby white elitists and he'll...well, let's face it, he STILL wouldn't go.
  • Does anyone honestly think that Neil Cavuto will pull his multi-million dollar behind out of his chair at Fox and actually put that money where his mouth is?

A few facts about Neil Cavuto:

His optimistic outlook has surely been a weapon, he says, in his battle against a progressive form of multiple sclerosis--a diagnosis he received in 1997, eight years after doctors had declared him in full remission from Hodgkin's disease. "I never forget the doctor's line. He said, 'You appear to be the unluckiest bastard on earth,'-" Cavuto says of the MS diagnosis. "But I think it comes down to attitude. Some people's crosses in life are so much heavier than mine. There's a lot I have to be very grateful about."...

Cavuto [praises Roger] Ailes for his matter-of-fact acceptance of his MS diagnosis. After breaking the news to Ailes, Cavuto, who manages a staff of about 30, told his own troops. "I told my staff, 'Look, you may notice some things. There might be some days when I'm walking with a cane or in the hospital, sporadically. I don't know where it will go ... so I just take it one day at a time.'"

Cavuto, who has lived for nearly a decade in Chester with his wife, Mary, and 17-year-old daughter, Tara, takes a weekly dose of the drug Avonex to slow the progression of the disease and uses a treadmill to "keep those legs going." He says he has good days, bad days, and very, very bad ones. "It's a weird type of illness," he says. "When it's very, very bad, you can't walk or, at best, you really need a cane, but when it's OK, it's OK. You live with a degree of pain and discomfort."

Cavuto neither hides nor draws attention to his illness. "I don't think I should be a platform or a cause," Cavuto says. "The way I can help people, hopefully, is to illustrate me trying to do my job and doing it the best way I know how, with a smile and a joke."
From an interview published just yesterday:
The severity and cruelty of that crippler needn't be amplified here, but making Cavuto a medical "What Are The Odds?" candidate is that his MS discovery came almost ten years to the day after he was diagnosed with Stage Four Hodgkin's Disease/Lymphoma. "It looked like it would be fatal," he very calmly reports. "I thought my MS was a recurrence of cancer and was convinced I was going to die."

Even his neurologist suggested Cavuto stop working but the doctor was later convinced it was MS – not another cancer emergence. "I don't like getting overly profound on this, but [it reminds me] we're all on this planet a short time. Whether you live to be 30 or 100, in the scheme of things, it's [not long]. I don't want to mask who I am or pretend to be someone else. It's great if [people like me] but I won't [shape] myself to fit the whim of the moment. I've always been the same on-air guy."

In the beginning, though, Cavuto was secretive about his cancer because he was "so afraid" about losing his PBS job as a New York bureau chief. "My daughter [Tara] was two years old and I valued keeping food in her mouth. I was more established when I was diagnosed with MS, so I didn't hide it."

Many others with serious diseases don't have as much liberty as does Cavuto. "They don't want to be cast aside when it comes to promotions but I've learned honesty is the best policy. I'm extremely fortunate Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes don't judge me on days I have trouble walking; when I'm in the hospital; or when I have trouble seeing. Hopefully, they notice [my] net good."
From USA Today:
Cavuto suffers from secondary progressive MS, a type of the disease that steadily gets worse. He dealt with that initial shock by facing the disease. He told his boss at Fox News and others about his illness. And to this day, he has to acknowledge what might happen if the disease progresses. "I really don't want to end up in a wheelchair, but that might happen," he says....

He suffers from balance problems, weakness and back pain, but he's still the anchor of the popular cable business show Your World with Neil Cavuto. And he manages to make it all seem easy despite the fact that on a bad day, he'll have a sudden loss of vision that makes reading the teleprompter impossible....

Cavuto manages to make it all seem easy, despite the fact that he's dealing with the unpredictable symptoms of MS. Experts such as Richert say the symptoms can vary from day to day.... A few times a year, he has had flare-ups so bad that he has landed in the hospital. "This disease is like a ride on a roller coaster," Mary Cavuto says. "You never know how the symptoms are going to play out."

This is the man the Fox haters mock because he doesn't get "out of his chair".

This is the man that Melanie attacks and demeans, scornfully telling him "get your ass over to Iraq".

One can only ask of Melanie and her fellow haters: have you no shame?

posted: Wed - February 7, 2007 at 11:35 PM       j$p  send 

Tom
Hahaha, you gotta love the hypocrisy by Johnny Dollar. When conservatives criticize Cindy Sheehan and liberals fight back, the rightwing claims that "OH THE ABSOLUTE MORAL AUTHORITY CARD IS BEING PLAYED" because the Left supposedly claims that people like Sheehan or Michael J. Fox can't be criticized because of their circumstances (dead son, crippling disease), then JP turns around and claims "YOU CAN"T CRITICIZE NEIL CAVUTO BECAUSE CAVUTO HAS MS".
 
You're pathetic. Find a better argument than that. Something makes me doubt you were the one of the people that criticized Bush for cracking a "why don't you take your sunglasses off?" joke to a reporter who was practically blind during a press conference and couldn't take them off.
February 8, 2007, 1:12:20 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
You might have an infinitesmal speck of a point if you could point out where I ever made any of those arguments. Or where I defended Bush over the sunglasses statement. We'll wait here until you find where I did and quote my words back to me.
February 8, 2007, 1:16:45 AM EST – Like – Reply


OverHere
Tom, if you knew the full story about the sunglasses remark, you would know that when Bush called that reporter to apologize, the reporter told him no apology was necessary and THANKED him for treating him just like any other reporter.
 
And where did johnny claim that Cavuto can't be criticized? Criticize away, but there is a line that should not be crossed, and they crossed it.
February 8, 2007, 7:15:35 AM EST – Like – Reply


Tom
"
And where did johnny claim that Cavuto can't be criticized? Criticize away, but there is a line that should not be crossed, and they crossed it."
 
Where, where did they cross it? Point it out? The bold text and excerpts posted by JP do NOT show them ridiculing Cavuto for having MS. They probably don't even know about it. What, you think that they research the personal lives and histories of Fox News personalities? Give me a break.
 
You're flat out full of it. You don't believe a word of what you're saying, you're just grasping for straws, claiming that they meant to ridicule his MS when those statements clearly do not even hint at the fact that he has MS at all. Only a political weasel takes a statement like, "get your rich ass to Iraq" and sees it as a covert "HAHA YOU'VE GOT MS".
 
Cut the BS.
February 8, 2007, 11:37:55 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
They don't know about it? Do you know how many times it has been mentioned at their site. Puh-lease.
February 8, 2007, 11:55:33 AM EST – Like – Reply


Tom
"They don't know about it? Do you know how many times it has been mentioned at their site."
 
How has it been mentioned? Point out one instance in which a Newshound poster actually says something that ridicules Cavuto's MS. Telling him to get hiss ass to Iraq before broadcasting Republican propaganda is NOT making fun of MS, it's calling on the little weasel to see the fighting up front and personal.
 
Try to make this about his MS all you want, we both know you're full of it and you don't believe a word of what you're saying. Making fun of his MS? LoL. What a transparent lie.
February 8, 2007, 5:17:08 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
"How has it been mentioned? Point out one instance in which a Newshound poster actually says something that ridicules Cavuto's MS."
 
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Cavuto has MS?
 
Maybe it needs to start kicking in and giving Neil a new outlook on what he's doing. Either that, or maybe he'll get the honor of having Rush imitate him instead of Michael J. Fox.
Godzilla104 | 12.13.06 - 7:25 pm
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Cavuto has cancer and MS? Awesome!
I.P. Freely | 12.14.06 - 12:41 pm 
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Source: http://www.haloscan.com/comments/newshounds/10781/
 
More vitriol from the NH. Any more requests, Tom?
February 8, 2007, 7:03:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Heh. Nicely done, FF. Between this and his humiliating embarrassment on the schedule changes thread, Tom is going to have to do some serious damage control.
February 8, 2007, 7:05:19 PM EST – Like – Reply


Tom
Damage control? Johnny, I hate to break it to you, but I humiliate you in just about every thread you open. You're never able to refute any points I make. It's gotten to the point where you basically dodge me on your own BLOG.
 
LOL.
February 9, 2007, 1:00:31 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
So Tom, what did I win in that bet with you? Or are you now going to welch and claim you didn't bet?
February 9, 2007, 1:10:41 AM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Did I call it in the Red Eye comments or what? Tom already conveniently forgot about getting smacked down with facts and is back for more.
 
People don't dodge you, Tom. They decide to ignore you because you post redundant OT material on every thread. You are a child tugging at the pantlegs of adults while we discuss Fox haters. If shooing the child away doesn't work, we ignore it.
February 9, 2007, 7:07:59 AM EST – Like – Reply


BiorsGhost
Gotta give this one to Tom, J$. I've read/posted over there for a couple years. I often read the Cavuto threads because I find his "business" program strangely and comically devoid of business content, and what business content and analysis that seems to occur laughably goes into contortions - ignoring what the "legit" business press says, to create some ridiculous false causality between the "War on Terror" and fluctuations in the market. 
 
I did learn that Cavuto has MS based on posts on NH "Your World" threads, but they were statements of fact, never done to ridicule.
 
Read The Weekly Standard's War http://www.amconmag.com/2005/2005_11_21/article.html in The American Conservative to understand, if interested, why I'm an avid Fox Hater. They've earned my contempt. Murdoch and his media machine with his troop of neocon ghouls did a nice job banging the war drum and intentionally tried to misinform the public into giving attacking Hussein priority over capturing and punishing Bin Laden. He is aligned with the neocon agenda - clearly, and used News Corp and Fox News to bolster public support, smear any and all dissenters like Cindy Sheehan, and help spread fear and terror. 
 
Now, I'm sure you're familiar with the recent criticism of the Pentagon for hyping the threat Iraq posed in the build-up to the war. Just the most recent example that the build-up and the war itself is all bullcrap, which resulted in a humanitarian calamity and tens of thousands of senselessly wasted lives, which accomplished nothing. 
 
Murdoch and Fox News and their despicable pundits played a huge part in this disaster. I will never think otherwise. That whole news networks and everyone who helped hype this war I hold in contempt - including Cavuto, MS or no MS. 
 
So, yeah, it would be nice in a fantasy world that these chicken hawk overpaid bastards who worked for Murdoch's neocon network and help to spread misinformation and to willfully mislead the public and smear dissenters... 
 
... would go over there to Iraq and "put up or shut up".
 
I despise these people. They are absolutely worthy of contempt.
February 10, 2007, 5:47:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


Toyomi Karita
Part A: 
 
In case you're not familiar (Feith's "Office of Special Plans" is something that was commonly known for years among we anti-war "conspiracy theorists"): 
 
WASHINGTON — As the Bush administration began assembling its case for war, analysts across the U.S. intelligence community were disturbed by the report of a secretive Pentagon team that concluded Iraq had significant ties to Al Qaeda.
 
Analysts from the CIA and other agencies "disagreed with more than 50%" of 26 findings the Pentagon team laid out in a controversial paper, according to testimony Friday from Thomas F. Gimble, acting inspector general of the Pentagon...
 
...The work of that special Pentagon unit — which was run by former Undersecretary of Defense Douglas J. Feith — is one of the lingering symbols of the intelligence failures leading up to the war in Iraq.
 
The Bush administration's primary justification for invading Iraq was always its assertion that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction. But Iraq's supposed ties to Al Qaeda — and therefore its connection to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks — were an important secondary argument, and one that resonated with many Americans in the lead-up to the war with Iraq.
 
The CIA and many other intelligence agencies were wrong in their assessments of Iraq's weapons programs. But the agency was always deeply skeptical about the ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda.
 
Most of the evidence that Feith's Office of Special Plans cited in making its case for significant collaboration between Baghdad and Al Qaeda has crumbled under postwar scrutiny. The Senate Intelligence Committee has concluded that Saddam Hussein was so wary of the terrorist network that he barred anyone in his government from dealing with Al Qaeda.
 
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/complete/la-na-feith10feb10,0,4114134.story?track=mostviewed-homepage
February 11, 2007, 9:36:09 AM EST – Like – Reply


Toyomi Karita
Part B
 
The Weekly Standard’s War
 
Murdoch’s mag stands athwart history yelling, “Attack!”
 
By Scott McConnell
 
Enter the Weekly Standard—edited principally by William Kristol, a genial and sharp son of an eminent neoconservative family—which arrived on the scene thanks to a $3 million annual subsidy from Rupert Murdoch...
 
... the Standard’s reported subsidy was gigantic for a small ideological niche magazine, if Rupert Murdoch’s purpose was to make things happen in Washington and in the world, he could not have leveraged it better. One could spend 10 times that much on political action committees without achieving anything comparable.
 
...With the fledgling Fox News network, the Standard soon emerged as the key leg in a synergistic triangle of neoconservative argumentation: you could write a piece for the magazine, talk about your ideas on Fox, pick up a paycheck from Kristol or from AEI. 
 
...One day a novel must be written that conveys the sense of purpose and energy that surged through the Standard’s offices—and that of the whole Washington neoconservative network—in the days after September 11, 2001...
 
...Inside the administration were Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and their staffs, heavy with signatories of the original 1998 PNAC Saddam-must-be-removed letter. They set out to neutralize the skeptical CIA and Colin Powell’s more cautious State Department and rush the White House into a war in Iraq...
 
... Their job was to divert America’s wrath away from those who perpetrated the attack and turn it against those who did not. It was, on the face of it, quite a stretch. The day before 9/11, the idea of a ground invasion to overthrow Saddam Hussein’s Iraq was as “unthinkable” as it had been when Kristol and Kagan had first broached it four years earlier. If repetition could somehow insert into the national consciousness and thereby render plausible an idea that would otherwise have occurred to very few, the Standard would be up to the task. Again and again the refrain would be pounded out, “Saddam Must Go!” and would be picked up by commentators further down the ideological food chain.
 
..continues:
http://www.amconmag.com/2005/2005_11_21/article.html
February 11, 2007, 9:53:36 AM EST – Like – Reply


Toyomi Karita
Can you put A and B together?
 
You had (among other things) Feith inside the Pentagon misinforming decision-makers to tie Al_Qaida to Hussein, and therefore 911 by proxy...
 
You had Kristol/Murdoch influencing popular opinion with their "synergystic triangle" - The Weekly Standard, AEI, and catering to the imbeciles "lower down the intellectual food chain", Fox News. 
 
All to, as The American Conservative states, do the unthinkable:
 
"...to divert America’s wrath away from those who perpetrated the attack and turn it against those who did not. It was, on the face of it, quite a stretch."
February 11, 2007, 10:01:51 AM EST – Like – Reply


Toyomi Karita
So, do you see why we freakin' despise people like Cavuto, O'Reilly, Hannity, Gison - and the rest of Murdoch's meat-puppets on Fox News???? 
 
I you have a conscience, I don't see how you can't be anything less than disgusted by these people who sold this war, smeared dissenters, to those - like you, who are: 
 
...lower down the ideological food chain
 
When...
 
- Over 3000 US soldiers died
- tens of thousands maimed
- Hundreds of billions of wasted dollars
- tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians dead...
 
For F'n what< Johnny?!!?! 
 
So, yeah, it would be just loverly to see a-holes like Hannity, Murdoch, Kristol, Feith, and the whole right-wing noise machine, including Cavuto, take arms and fight their little stupid war...
 
And it has NOTHING to do with Cavuto having MS. 
 
I don't see how these pieces of sh-t sleep at night.
February 11, 2007, 10:13:56 AM EST – Like – Reply


Ira
Let's see:
 
When you include the three broadcast networks news operations which include their morning shows, CNN, MSNBC, PBS and all the rest (something the foreigners who posted here do not know and cannot comprehend) Fox News attracts less than 5% of the total news audience in America.
 
And they blame Murdoch for the War In Iraq?
 
Incredible!
February 11, 2007, 12:49:47 PM EST – Like – Reply


Toyomi Karita
And they blame Murdoch for the War In Iraq?
 
Incredible!
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Take it up with The American Conservative... and they don't "blame" the war on News Corp, but they functioned exactly as a propaganda network, clearly in support of the neoconservative agenda. The tactics they incorporate - smearing dissenters as anti-American... in Cavuto's case, using his show as a vehicle to tie events in Iraq and the war to fluctuation in the stock market...
 
Why do you think Murdoch keeps The Weekly Standard afloat with 3 million dollar annual welfare check? 
 
Cause he's stupid? 
 
And Fox "News" - one can infer from The American Conservative article (the only mag in the conservative press with the balls to tell it like it is...) Fox's part in the "synergystic triangle" of WS/AEI/Fox, is to influence the opinion of the idiots lower down the intellectual food chain - Fox News watchers/conservative idiot AM hate-jock radio listeners... 
 
While Fox may have had only 5% viewership, they were able to influence the spineless (untill recently) MSM, which was used as an echo-chamber. Swift Boat vets and Ann Coulter and the like got plenty of airtime in the MSM... It was also a climate where both houses, the exec. branch, and the Supreme Court were all conservative, so the MSM seemed at worst to go along with Murdoch with watered-down but similar rhetoric, or simply be apathetic toward the whole thing... the perverbial "watch dogs" were sleeping in the dog-house, leaving nothing to counter Murdoch and the rest of the right-wing noise machine. 
 
Murdoch is freakin' Satan, and every one of his meat-puppet mouthpieces on Fox - Hannity, Cavuto, Gibson, O'Falafel I hope - truly, burn for eternity in hell for their part in helping to bang the war drum, spread misinformation (note the infamous survey of the number of Fox viewers who though Hussein was responsible for 911), and smear the sensible people who didn't want us to go in in the first place, and now want us out before more lives are lost, people lose more limbs, and hundreds of billions of more dollars are thrown away due to conservative stupidity. 
 
...Bunch of chicken hawk war-mongering, hate-mongering a-holes who deserve to be in the desert with rifles and dodging IEDs, rather than in a nice comfy studio with multi-million dollar contracts working for the Devil himself, Murdoch and the rest of the neocons.
February 11, 2007, 1:58:50 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
News flash Toyomi- the democrats voted for the war too. It wasn't a GOP or Fox News scheme unless democrats, republicans, Blair, and Putin were all in on it. All of them came to the same conclusion on WMDs. All were wrong.
 
Murdoch is Satan? The conspiracy theory's plot is thickening... What about the reptoid impersonator invasions?
 
Did Tom call you guys here post far-out OT rants in order to bury his proven-wrong lies about NH posters never making fun of Cavuto's MS?
February 11, 2007, 2:13:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


Toyomi Karita
Murdoch is Satan? The conspiracy theory's plot is thickening... What about the reptoid impersonator invasions?
Fox Fan | 02.11.07 - 2:18 pm | #
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Yep, he's a piece of garbage. And there you go again, copping your "conspiracy theory"(c) meme whenever a clear and inconvenient truth rears its ugly head... 
 
Why do you think Murdoch keeps the neocon rag, Kristol's, "The Weekly Standard" afloat with that annual 3 million dollar welfare check??? 
 
While... 
 
Kristol's PNAC buddy, Feith, worked in the Office of Special Plans to make its bullshit case for "significant collaboration between Baghdad and Al Qaeda has crumbled under postwar scrutiny"... in an effort to tie 911 to Hussein. No conspiracy there there Chief... 
 
This ties right in to The Weekly Standard's (Kristol/Murdoch) goal to: 
 
"...divert America’s wrath away from those who perpetrated the attack and turn it against those who did not. (It was, on the face of it, quite a stretch)..." as cited in The American Conservative article...
 
While despicable chicken hawk a-holes like Hannity, Cavuto, O'Reilly, Gibson work on those "lower down the intellectual food chain" (ie conservative idiots who watch Fox "News" and listen to Rush Limbaugh...)
 
Do you think that this happened by accident:
 
The polling, conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and Knowledge Networks, also reveals that the frequency of these misperceptions varies significantly according to individuals’ primary source of news. Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely.
 
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc
 
???????
 
That's right - I'm a "Fox Hater", a News Corp hater, and a Murdoch hater for their role in the Iraq war. 
 
And if you weren't so "further down the intellectual food chain" you would be a Fox hater too.
February 11, 2007, 5:41:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
"The polling, conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and Knowledge Networks, also reveals that the frequency of these misperceptions varies significantly according to individuals’ primary source of news. Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely."
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This poll has an error margin of + or - total irrelevance. The frequency of the "misperceptions" is a shaky, subjective, leftist suggestive topic for a poll.
 
Murdoch is the sole purveyor of balance in the liberally dominated MSM. I don't care about the Weekly Standard and apparently place less value on its content than you do. So Murdoch gives them cash. He also held a fundraiser for Hillary.
 
To say that Fox News watchers are "further down the intellectual food chain" is nothing more than a mantra for mentally impotent Fox haters such as yourself. Keep repeating until peace comes to you.
February 11, 2007, 6:50:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ira
Fox Fan: Only a kool-aid drinker ignorant of US media can assign The Weekly Standard any measure of influence. 
 
To add to my remarks above, The Weekly Standard has maybe 20% of the circulation of either Time, Newsweek or US News And World Report. They don't even have the readership of The New Republic, Atlantic Monthly, Vanity Fair or other liberal political magazines. 
 
FoxFan: Notice that this Toyomi character didn't deny that he is a foreigner. These folks never comment about MSNBC or CNN for a good reason: the former is not broadcast outside of North America and CNN International has nearly totally different programming that we see domestically. Unfortunately with their ignorant hatred, these non-Americans attempt to sabotage and destroy meaningful discussions about American media.
 
Take 'em all with a grain of salt!
February 11, 2007, 8:21:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Toyomi Karita
Xenophobic idiot, if you bothered to read The American Conservative article, the PNAC father-founded, Murdoch subsidized - to the ridiculous tune of 3 million annually, neocon rag, Weekly Standard, influenced politicians in the beltway. Fox "News" influenced idiot conservatives like yourself who are "lower down the intellectual food chain" (in other words, American conservative idiots... and bear in mind, this is coming from The American Conservative) 
 
Fox "News", according to The American Conservative is part of a synergistic triangle consisting of The Weekly Standard/The American Enterprise Institute/Fox "News" designed to:
 
"...to divert America’s wrath away from those who perpetrated the attack and turn it against those who did not. It was, on the face of it, quite a stretch."
 
Fox "News" was then and is now the neocon propaganda network who sold the war in Iraq to useful idiots lower down the intellectual ladder, in addition to spreading fear, misinformation, and smearing rightful dissenters. They played a key role in diverting America's wrath away from those who attacked us, and turn it against those who did not" specifically, Iraq. 
 
Did Iraq have ties to Al Qaeda? Were they responsible - in any way, for 911?!!?! And maybe that non-existent WMD threat was just a weee bit overstated??? 
 
Fox "News" didn't help make this happen???
 
Murdoch subsidizes the PNAC father, Bill Kristol founded, The Weekly Standard, three million dollars per year... to keep it afloat - why??? 
 
Wake the F up... willya???
 
Such blind and (mostly) DUMB idiots!
February 11, 2007, 8:46:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Toyomi Karita
Message deleted for rules violation [language]. And be careful with the attacks and name calling on other posters. That's a rules violation too.

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February 11, 2007, 8:53:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Toyomi Karita
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February 11, 2007, 9:04:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Why do you rant post after post about the Weekly Standard? You claim that Iraq is the Weekly Standard's war and that Murdoch partially funds them and therefore that it's his fault for brainwashing the American populace etc etc... Yet you fail to realize the minimal impact the Weekly Standard has on anything anywhere. Why the venom against something so uninfluential? If you had any proof with your pathetic array of wild exclamations you'd post it. Unfortunately you don't and you didn't.
February 11, 2007, 9:14:32 PM EST – Like – Reply


Toyomi Karita
Message deleted for rules violation [language]. Do it again and I will be forced to conclude that you WANT to be banned and act accordingly. Watch your language.

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February 11, 2007, 9:50:26 PM EST – Like – Reply


Toyomi Karita
You're deleting posts that refute the imbecile I'm debating with, and you're using the "language" thing as an excuse, and you know it. Those posts would barely rate a "PG". But it's your site, I guess... whatever.
February 12, 2007, 6:42:09 AM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Perhaps if you resorted to logic and truth instead of profanity and regurgitated distortions your posts would be left alone. Consistency considered, I doubt you're capable.
February 12, 2007, 7:04:24 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
> and you're using the "language" thing as an excuse
 
The "language thing" is clearly stated in the rules. If you can't make your point without resorting to gutter language, it isn't much of a point. Consider it a challenge to express yourself without using the same handful of vulgarities over and over again. It will make you a better writer.
February 12, 2007, 9:25:49 AM EST – Like – Reply


Tom
By the way guys, anyone on Johnny Dollar's site going to condemn Fox News for claiming that Hillary Clinton's guest's father at the State of the Union was a fraud? The guy died as a first aid responder on 9/11, and Fox is ridiculing him because his son was Hillary's guests.
 
Pretty sick individuals.
February 14, 2007, 9:43:35 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
"...Hillary Clinton's guest's father...Fox is ridiculing him because his son was Hillary's guests (sic)..."
 
Father's cousin's cousin's dog's previous owner's housekeeper's nephew's step-son's?
 
Don't reach too far, you might strain something.
February 14, 2007, 9:54:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Fox News issued a statement about some guy's father? I'm not aware of that. I'm only aware of the NY Times article regarding the controversy. If there was a Fox News Press Release about it I missed it.
February 14, 2007, 10:26:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


Dannie
If you don't like Fox don't watch it. I don't watch MSNBC because I don't like their biased right views, but I don't go around spewing hate for the station and people that watch it.
I have never seen such hate and venom in people as I see in the Fox News haters.
Instead of the wasted energy they spend on hate they should go out and help someone that needs it.
August 4, 2008, 9:25:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Let's make this very simple:
 
"The Cavut rocks" 
 
Period....lets not have any arguments!
April 15, 2009, 3:06:02 AM EDT – Like – Reply