Abrams and Media Matters Smear Gibson


What has happened to Dan Abrams? The once-responsible MSNBC executive uses Media Matters to lie about John Gibson.

How embarrassed is Dan Abrams over the racist comments of Don Imus? Enough that he resorts to using the tu quoque fallacy and turns the argument into an attack on Fox News, specifically John Gibson. According to Abrams sitting in tonight for Joe Scarborough, nobody on Fox should criticize Imus because it's part of their "strategy" to attack MSNBC. (Never mind that just Keith Olbermann's attacks on Bill O'Reilly alone number over 175.) So Fox doesn't have "clean hands".

But that bit of sophistry wasn't enough, so Abrams turned to slander. Referring to John Gibson he claimed:
Last year one of its hosts clearly encouraged more white people to have babies after reporting about the increase of minority children in this country.

He then brought on Paul Waldman from Media Matters to corroborate his lie:
John Gibson, on Fox News, said, implored white people to make more babies to prevent this country from becoming majority Latino.

If this sounds familiar, that's because it was just used by the moveon crowd, only they twisted it around to claim Gibson wanted to prevent the country from being majority black. We decimated this falsehood at the time, and you can read our detailed exposition. But here, in a nutshell, is what Abrams and Media Matters don't want you to know--the truth:

GIBSON: First, a story Wednesday that half the kids under 5 years old in this country are minorities. By far, the greatest number are Hispanic.... Twenty-five years and the majority of the population is Hispanic. Why is that? Hispanics are having more kids and others, notably the ones Hispanics call gabachos--white people--are having fewer. Now in this country, European ancestry people--white people--are having kids at a rate that sustains the population, even grows it a bit.
That compares to Europe where the birthrate is in the negative zone. They're not having enough babies to sustain the population. Consequently, they are inviting in more and more immigrants every year to take care of things, and those immigrants are having way more babies that the native population.

GIBSON: Vladimir Putin is so concerned about the declining--no imploding--population of Russia he is paying couples to have babies.... This is not a good trend for Russia, and it won't be here either if it should happen.
To put it bluntly: We need more babies. Forget that zero population growth stuff of my poor, misled generation. Why is this important? Because civilizations need populations to survive.
So far we're doing our part here in America, but Hispanics can't carry the whole load. The rest of you: Get busy. Make babies.
Or put another way, a slogan for our times: Procreation not recreation.

John Gibson did not "implore white people" to make more babies. He was not trying to "prevent" a Latino majority. He was praising the Latinos for procreating, and asking everyone else--not just "white people"--to do the same. It was not about ethnicity. It was about population.

Dan Abrams and Media Matters are liars.

posted: Mon - April 9, 2007 at 10:01 PM       j$p  send 

Fox Fan
Unfortunately, every time a lie like this one emerges it becomes an instantaneous Pandora's Box; the liberal media, fueled by extremists like MM, NH, and DK, embraces it and carries it to falsified fruition. 
 
Suddenly it's verifiable information through multiple media sources, even though the sources are proven liars.
April 9, 2007, 10:39:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply


OverHere
I used to really like Dan, this really troubles and saddens me. Once upon a time he was a very good newsman.
April 10, 2007, 11:41:29 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Scott
I guess this was Abram's last on air chance to slander Fox as he lasted, what 7 month's, as GM. As keithy has said he answer's to know one and the demotion of Dannyboy and his slander of Fox and a Fox employee shows keithy was right. Keithy get's a new contract and Dannyboy get's demoted. At least someone at Fox, who by the way worked for that crap network, and know's how that network(?) work's.
April 10, 2007, 12:25:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Puck
When all else fails, deflect it all on FNC. But let's look at two things.
#1: Dan had somebody from Media Matters on.
#2: Air America still keeps showing up on Prime Time MSNBC shows.
 
Now I don't have a problem, it's free speech! And if all you want to do is stack the debate to one side. That's fine too.
 
But this is not your Phil Donahue 80's anymore. Sites like this are keeping an eye on you. 
 
Air America, Media Matters, MSNBC. Birds of a feather?
April 10, 2007, 2:51:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Puck
Another thought.
 
You are the general manager of a cable news channel. You the general mgr. of said cable news channel has your morning man screw up, he ends up getting suspended.
 
You the general mgr. of said cable news channel takes over a prime time show for the night, not to talk about your morning man screwing up. You attack another cable news channel with the classic line.
 
Yeah well I might of did it but Jimmy does it too!!!!!
 
Dan, it didn't work when you were a little kid. And it doesn't work today.
April 10, 2007, 3:05:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Tom
"Dan, it didn't work when you were a little kid. And it doesn't work today.
Puck"
 
Kind of like how Fox News tried to do as much damage control for the GOP in the final days of the last campaign as humanly possible by bringing up Jerry Studds more often than Mark Foley, a scandal from 20 years ago?
 
Excellent point, Puck. You're right. Fox is biased.
April 10, 2007, 4:53:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
> bringing up Jerry Studds more often than Mark Foley
 
I know, I know. Asking "Tom" to document what he says is like talking to a wall. But once more, here goes...
 
Um, Tom? What is your source for that? How many times did "Fox" bring up Jerry Studds and how many times Mark Foley? Or are you just making it up?
April 10, 2007, 5:32:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Somehow I've never heard of Jerry Studds. I watch Fox News all the time and I know the Foley story well (it was overplayed on Fox as well as the other networks) but I'm not familiar with Studds. For some reason Tom's statements are less and less coherent lately, as well as provably devoid of facts...
April 10, 2007, 6:34:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


OverHere
Same here, Fox Fan. I know way more than I want to know about Mark Foley because every network just beat that story into the ground, but Jerry Studds? Sorry Tom, you'll have to provide some documentation on that one. I won't hold my breath though.
April 10, 2007, 9:07:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply


BoB
Too bad J$P didn't show the clip of Gibson. i wonder why?
April 11, 2007, 6:16:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Because I don't post clips that Fox themselves put up on foxnews.com. Glad I could clear up that mystery for you.
April 11, 2007, 6:37:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply