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Weekend Links & Open Thread

Sunday cable news links [updated through the weekend]:

Video: oops!!

No-nonsense news?

Paging PBS.

O'Reilly's double standard?

Kos: Huffington Post is "right wing"?!?

Stelter: CNBC's star re-ups.

Sunday talkers. Roundup.

Dream forum premieres. Panned!

Firing demand resuscitated.

More Maddow murmurs.

Video: Catherine Herridge discusses transplants.

Fox & Friends Weekend: inside story.

Abrams abates?

Terry Eastland on Tony Snow.

Q&A: Phil Griffin. Analysis.

Video: J$P makes The B-Cast! [at 7:00 min and 19:00 min]

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in this weekend's open thread. Standard rules apply.




cornycob
Gotta love the B-Cast.
July 19, 2008, 10:17:23 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Have you seen it before? I stumbled across it yesterday and that was the first time I'd ever seen it. It seems to be quite ambitious (in length at least) for internet programming.
July 19, 2008, 11:00:04 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
B-Cast would make a great late night FNC program. Toss in a couple more hotties and it's like Red Eye for computer geeks! Congrats on making their show johnny!
July 19, 2008, 11:21:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Stelter was Fox bashing. So, I didn't finish reading. "Fledgling Fox Business Network." You know why? Not every cable provider has it. You'd like to keep that way, wouldn't you, Stelter? You just want have News Corp./Fox entity to fail and NBC/Olbermann to succeed triumphantly. What a jerk.
July 19, 2008, 4:16:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply


david smawley
With all this F&F on air talent shifting going on, why doesn't Julie Banderas get a nod. She would break the morning blond ambition tour and I think would be a refreshing change of pace. Maybe she is just not a morning person.
July 19, 2008, 5:46:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Man, that's one excellent idea. You can never go wrong with Julie!
July 19, 2008, 5:55:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Alisyn is a brunette. Julie is fine where she is.
July 19, 2008, 6:33:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply


david smawley
I should have known not to take on FoxNews program director Mike C. with my opinion. You have yours Mike and I have mine and don't talk down to me regarding "Julie is fine where she is."
July 19, 2008, 6:51:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply


DeeKay
Though right now Julie gets a lot of weekend air time...afternoons with Greg Jarrett and then doing the Fox Report at night on Sat. and Sun.  
 
I'm actually pleased with the news about F&F Weekend, if it's indeed true. I like Alisyn...she's funny, talented, personable, and will make a good anchorperson for the weekend show.
 
Just my 2 cents worth...
July 19, 2008, 7:33:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply


FNCFan20
I'd like to see Julie get a bigger role on FNC too.
July 19, 2008, 7:42:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
> don't talk down to me  
 
Now now. How do you know he wasn't talking down to me? People are entitled to express an opinion. It ain't necessarily 'talking down'.
 
I agree Julie has a pretty nice gig right now, but it would be interesting to see how she would fare in an extemporaneous free-for-all like F&F. I have a feeling she'd either take to it like water or it would be a train wreck. Either way it would be interesting.
July 19, 2008, 7:54:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
I wasn't doing any talking down. I had no idea I would get that kind of a reaction. I'm sorry, David. Please do not take me personally. (There's no way for me to get out of this, no matter how sincere, is there?)
I agree with DeeKay. Julie gets a lot of weekend airtime; particularly, anchoring airtime.
July 19, 2008, 8:26:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Gen Escape Goat - Malt Duck
Front page of
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
Iraq PM wants troops out 'as soon as possible'
 
http://www.cnn.com/?refresh=1
Iraqi PM reportedly backs Obama's plan
Obama meets with troops in Afghanistan 13 min
 
http://www.yahoo.com/
Iraqi prime minister says U.S. should leave as soon as possible
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/
Iraqi PM Supports Obama's Withdrawal Plan
 
http://abcnews.go.com/
Globetrotting Obama Gets Iraq Backing
 
http://www.foxnews.com/
Nothing
July 19, 2008, 9:02:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Gen Escape Goat - Malt Duck
[message deleted for rules violation: off topic]

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July 19, 2008, 9:06:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
http://www.foxnews.com/
Nothing
 
Your little parade of links is not really relevant to a thread on cable news topics. But if you are going to go off-topic you could at least tell the truth:
 
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Jul19/0,4670,MalikiObama,00.html
 
plus more at:
 
http://elections.foxnews.com/
 
Please try to stay on topic in future posts.
July 19, 2008, 9:14:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
I just want to reiterate that I wasn't talking down to anybody and didn't mean for anyone to get that impression.
I didn't know Bloomberg TV had a Sunday morning talk show.
July 19, 2008, 9:26:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
You tricked me with the "transplants" link johnny.  
 
Mike, I didn't get the impression that you were talking down when I read your comment, but I can see how it might be construed as such. A misunderstanding.
July 19, 2008, 9:29:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
It's happened to me on occasion here.
I figured "implants" would trick you. :D On a serious note, I was watching "F&F" yesterday morning when Catherine talked about the partial liver transplant to save her son Peter. I'm glad to see he's doing well.
July 19, 2008, 9:51:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Let me try a different emoticon (smiley) from the smiley link. :lol:
There, that's better.
July 19, 2008, 9:53:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
You should really stay on topic, Mike. Moderation on, please!!!
 
lol
July 19, 2008, 10:01:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
HuffPo is right-wing? That's ridiculous. They're wising up, though, when it comes to moderating comments. But only the Kossacks would make such an assertion about HuffPo.
July 19, 2008, 10:03:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Easy now, FF. I only call for moderation when we get infiltrated by disrupters and some of the regulars fall into their trap.
July 19, 2008, 10:05:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Vince P
Mike, what does talking about why you call for moderation have to do with cable news?
 
PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC
July 19, 2008, 10:07:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Settle down. And whether I invoke 'moderation' or any decisions of your humble but all-knowing webmaster are not properly on topic.
July 19, 2008, 10:09:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
If you want moderation, why ask for it by email?
July 19, 2008, 10:15:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
why not ask for it by email . . . FIXED
July 19, 2008, 10:16:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
I was being sarcastic, Danny. I hate moderation. That's why I lol'd.
July 19, 2008, 10:23:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Ahem.
July 19, 2008, 10:31:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Okay, I get it, you don't like me enforcing being on topic and ruining your (and David's) good time. I'll leave the enforcing to Johnny from now on. I'm sorry yet again.
Unfortunately, nobody at MSNBC is going to be fired. Management is in ideological line with the personalities.
July 19, 2008, 10:36:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply


olby sucks
http://www.foxnews.com/
NO MENTION AT ALL
Gen Escape Goat - Malt Duck | 07.19.08 - 9:01 pm  
 
That wasn't any surprise to you was it?
john t | Homepage | 07.19.08 - 9:04 pm | #  
 
I'll bet Fox reports on any IEDs going off and any deaths that would happen in Iraq while Obama is over there. Of course it will be the first time they ever did.
john t | Homepage | 07.19.08 - 9:17 pm | #  
 
I think these 'people' believe their own lies.
July 19, 2008, 11:29:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply


olby sucks
"to trash Fox News for negatively photoshopping two New York Times employees.  
 
But now, on "The Daily Show," Jon Stewart has savaged CNN's Lou Dobbs."  
 
Here, we have our daily dose of liberal hypocrisy.
July 20, 2008, 1:02:32 AM EDT – Like – Reply


tess
Most peple know what Lou Dobbs looks like. Most people probably dont know what the New York Times employees look like. The Daily show is a comedy show with lots and lots of satire. Fox and friends is an entertainment show with a little dose of news.
July 20, 2008, 1:42:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply


DeeKay
"I agree Julie has a pretty nice gig right now, but it would be interesting to see how she would fare in an extemporaneous free-for-all like F&F. I have a feeling she'd either take to it like water or it would be a train wreck."
 
Oh I think she'd hold her own nicely! LOL
 
Actually I'd *like* to see Julie on F&F, even if it's just filling in for a day or two sometimes. She's interesting and smart and would do quite well on there. The guys would have to watch out though!
July 20, 2008, 8:38:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Missy
Since this very significant story that J$ posted seems to have gone without comment here, I will post a synopsis:
 
"But when a civil rights leader disparages the very people whom he is supposed to champion - that's news.
 
And when the black person who uses the n-word is a civil rights leader who challenged the entertainment industry not to use the word and called for a boycott of "Seinfeld" DVDs after one of the series stars, Michael Richards, used the slur as a standup comic - that's big news.
 
It is news that buries whatever credibility Jackson retained.
 
Which makes O'Reilly's decision not to broadcast the racist n-word incomprehensible. O'Reilly was giving a pass to Jackson - something he would not do for a 18-year-old girl who posted a sexual photo on the Internet.
 
And for that, he should squirm in his seat."
 
I agree with the SF Chronicle that O'Reilly most certainly should have aired the Jackson comments in their entirety. Why would he choose this doofus to protect, when his whole raison d'etre is to "go after the bad guys". His protection of this race hustler, whom he's been after for YEARS, just doesn't make sense in thise case!
July 20, 2008, 8:50:20 AM EDT – Like – Reply


notveryhow
Is The Cable Game trying to equate "The Daily Show" with Fox and Friends?Granted I occasionally get a chuckle in the morning (though not when they're trying to be funny),a more usual response is jaw dropping incredulity.
 
Speaking of which,concerning why Michael Getler won't be responding to Stewarts photoshop of Lou Dobbs,The Gamer guy writes:
 
"And we all know why. Media bias is that bad--and that shameless.".
 
Is this just dumb, or is it paranoia?If it's paranoia there are some useful medications.But speaking of pain;
 
Who are these people such as Tom in Paine,still gunning for David Schuster? Are they a Republican 5th column, or truly a group of embittered women's rights supporters (what's Rush call them?)?
 
Citing Elizabeth Cady Stanton is a nice touch, but I've gotta question anyone who would seek to derail the Democratic candidacy of Barack Obama in the name of 'women's rights', when the alternative is John McCain.
 
Though anything is possible.I spent a day in DC with a (closeted) Lesbian Republican at a pro-choice rally.
July 20, 2008, 9:20:01 AM EDT – Like – Reply


notveryhow
from the NewsBuster analysis of Phil Griffin's comments:
 
" Fox News may have set out from the beginning to fill the rightward niche market, it is true."
 
Now whenever I say this it creates an argument with those who disagree, so please direct your comments to Warner Todd Huston.
July 20, 2008, 10:16:41 AM EDT – Like – Reply


cornycob
About the B-cast...
 
The male anchor used to be an anchor on my local ABC affiliate (WTAE, Pittsburgh) before they let him go. The lady next to him was the webmaster (or something) for their website. Andrew Breitbart hired them to do breitbartTV. They do the show from Pittsburgh. I have never watched much of it but it is very cool.
July 20, 2008, 10:25:16 AM EDT – Like – Reply


olby sucks
I spent a day in DC with a (closeted) Lesbian Republican at a pro-choice rally.
notveryhow | 07.20.08 - 9:25 am | #  
 
TMI!!
July 20, 2008, 10:41:03 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
Griffin assumes that because you can't trust him or MSNBC and because he deliberately (not accidentally) tried to fill a certain niche . . . that others are also untrustworthy and others have also done the same.
 
I don't believe what he said about MSNBC's accidentally taking an extreme left position and I don't believe what he said about Fox. Far fewer Republicans watch MSNBC than Democrats watch Fox.
July 20, 2008, 11:36:29 AM EDT – Like – Reply


olby sucks
Far fewer Republicans watch MSNBC than Democrats watch Fox.
Danny | 07.20.08 - 11:41 am | #  
 
The far leftists have a very hard time stomaching this fact. I have seen many call it a "lie" and question the source even when the numbers are put right in their face.
July 20, 2008, 1:07:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
I've gotta question anyone who would seek to derail the Democratic candidacy of Barack Obama in the name of 'women's rights', when the alternative is John McCain.
 
I have no idea what you are talking about. Makes perfect sense to me. But I don't want to pursue it; because it looks like you are, once again, trying to bait posters into a political discussion.
July 20, 2008, 1:14:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Missy
The "No Nonsense News" link to which J$ linked is about that program hosted by "Fareed Zakaria", called GPS.
 
The author starts out trashing CNN for going domestic and pop-culture (my words), as an attempt to grab ratings. Yet nowhere does he state what the ratings are for "GPS". I would not even want to take a guess here, except to say most CNBC programming probably fares better.  
 
While propping up the guy's credentials as a serious journalists, he then inserts the fact that the guy's been on the Daily Show! Nothing spells gravitas like a visit on Comedy Central!
July 20, 2008, 1:36:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Missy
that would be "serious journalist", (singular).
 
Sorry.
July 20, 2008, 1:38:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Missy
I'm a Republican, Conservative, Evangelical, whatever. And I do watch all three cable networks, depending on what is being presented at the time.  
 
Some of MSNBC's news reporting is just fine, while some is not. Their newsreaders during the day, and the guests they have on, seem to be balanced. But I certainly know enough to stay away from Countdown, Hardball and Morning Joe if Joe is not there (which is most of the time). And even when he is there, he's not always that easy to take some days.
 
When any of the networks get into the tabloid crap, I'm outta there. There is too much real news and politics going on right now than to worry about any of the celebutards they love to discuss.
July 20, 2008, 1:42:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Aeris Gainsborough
Missy | 07.20.08 - 1:47 pm |  
 
Why stay away from Countdown, Missy, and why NOT watch Morning Joe, when Joe is not on? Well, I see what the problem is, but I won't tell it.
 
Countdown tells the truth, of what is happening in the USA. The Factor, Hannity and Colmes leave out the truth on what is happening in the USA.  
 


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July 20, 2008, 4:03:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Aeris, while your opinion is welcome, it just might also be untrue.
 
www.olbermannwatch.com
July 20, 2008, 4:55:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
Interestingly, not even all of the Kossaks think that Olbermann tells the truth.
 
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/19/01347/0201
 
Conversely. after reading at Newshounds how brilliant Colmes is and what an patent fool Hannity is . . . I wonder if Hannity and Colmes is not slanted too far to the left,
July 20, 2008, 7:40:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


FNCFan20
Hey J$, might want to check out ICN. Your favorite anchor's getting disparaged over there....
July 20, 2008, 7:41:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Re: "O'Reilly's double-standard?": This, once again, is what happens when you play fair: you tee off partisans. Most conservatives wanted BOR to air the whole damn thing, N-word and all. Debra Saunders lost a supporter with that article. She pretty much turned against BOR. At least he and Bernie Goldberg had a gentlemen's disagreement. Why does anyone want him to play the whole thing anyway? You already know what Jackson said via other sources, or "weasel"s.
I'm sorry, I just take harsh criticism of BOR very personally, especially if it's from an regular/occasional/one-time "Factor" guest. I consider that a turncoat move.
July 20, 2008, 8:01:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
I heard a dozen or more celebrity black people in interviews this week explain how it's OK for a black person to say n* on shows such as The View and Red Eye.
 
If it's OK, then why not lift the ban? I mean, Jackson is black, he said it, therefore by their logic it's OK. I don't understand how it's OK for a black person to say it but not a white person (a blatantly racist claim) but Jackson's saying it can't be played even though he's black. It defies all sensibility.
July 20, 2008, 8:14:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
And the delicate dance continues...
Incidentally, Jackie Mason brought this issue up today in his last show ever. I was there.
Re: "Video: oops!!": I noticed the fact that Amanda Carpenter was appearing on another network more than the "oops" with the Joker B-roll.
July 20, 2008, 8:40:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
> Hey J$, might want to check out ICN. Your favorite anchor's getting disparaged over there....
 
Uh oh. Maybe I better think about adding a new rule over here: no criticism of Julie allowed!
July 20, 2008, 8:45:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Am I the only person who thinks that the MSNBC anchor from the oops link is a total GILF?
July 20, 2008, 8:57:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Her name is Alex Witt. I'm reluctant to think that way because it's MSNBC, but I don't want to believe that their daytime anchors are far-left ideologues.
July 20, 2008, 9:12:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Speaking of the gorgeous Julie Banderas, here is a goodie worth watching again and again.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3PyoUPcobA
July 20, 2008, 10:48:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
That one is a classic, Ashley. Johnny's new rule should have no trouble surviving here!
July 20, 2008, 10:55:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply


olby sucks
Speaking of the rabid canines, they're getting very desperate. Going after typos. 
 
"Maybe FOX News Needs To Hire Fact and Spell Checkers" :lol:
July 20, 2008, 11:16:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply


The Factor
Ashley | 07.20.08 - 10:53 pm 
 
Great clip of Julie. That is why she should be subing for O'Reilly.
July 20, 2008, 11:18:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
I saw the Julie clip on YouTube over a year ago. It was very irritating, but not because of her.
To answer the Cable Gamer's question: No, Michael Getler will have nothing critical to say about the Dobbs distortion at "The Daily Show." (Lots of D alliteration in there.) Getler loves that picture. He probably also loved the Vanity Fair distortion of Steve Doocy from a week or so ago.
July 21, 2008, 12:01:08 AM EDT – Like – Reply


olby sucks
Uh oh. I responded to a deleted post....
July 21, 2008, 12:02:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
When you respond to posts that are patently abusive or break the rules, that just means your replies will have to go along with the violator's. Nothing personal there, just keeping the thread free of chaos.
July 21, 2008, 12:06:04 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
And thank you again for that, Johnny.
July 21, 2008, 12:36:36 AM EDT – Like – Reply


olby sucks
Fox is amateur TV. Shouldn't they have a grown-up to check their work. This is only the latest, but who can forget the Lincoln/Frederick Douglas debate.
notveryhow | 07.21.08 - 12:12 am | # 
 
Does this answer any questions? Telling, indeed. From the 'typo' thread.
July 21, 2008, 1:00:38 AM EDT – Like – Reply


notveryhow
oblio | 07.21.08 - 1:05 am |
 
You are so predictable,and such an easy mark!
July 21, 2008, 6:50:30 AM EDT – Like – Reply


olby sucks
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July 21, 2008, 11:05:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply