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Monday Links and Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

Friday's numbers.

Zucker spins. Gutfeld caves.

Olby: Twitter fake a Fox trick?!?

Ambushee's preemptive strike: analysis.

Fix CNBC? Unlikely. Advice to rivals. John Dean hired.

Pix: FNC AM's HD makeover.

Matthews re-ups.
Schultz signals?

Hot & Not.

Vote: Mitchell v Wilson.

Cramer commercials continue (via ICN).

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread.




Grammie
Johnny, great article over at News Busters about BOR:
 
O'Reilly: Most Everybody At MSNBC Would Be Dead If Cheney Really Had Sy Hersh's 'Assassination Squad'
 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/03/22/oreilly-if-cheney-had-assassination-squad-most-people-msnbc-would-be-
March 23, 2009, 10:56:38 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
hagster should be along any time crying about what happened to poor whittle amanda and her "friend" who were "stalked" by Waters.
March 23, 2009, 11:41:33 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Right On, Michael and Peggy. You both nailed it. Instead of a cute little "I heart Fox" website, Johnny Dollar's Place has turned into a little bitch and mutual ego feeding session. While their beloved leader pretends that he runs some kind of intellectual think tank, he allows his non thinkers to engage in the non intellectual activity of smearing us and then whining about what we say in return. But then again Koldys started it with the snide threads about "mutts," and other "kennel" references in which he, like his Fox masters, lied about what News Hounds was saying. And while he nit-picked, he rarely (if ever) addressed the substance of what our threads were about - probably because he would have been hard pressed to defend O'Reilly's lies and Hannity's hatred. Then he posted Ellen's photo which was pretty crass considering the photos we have of him. But it's great fun punking his little pals because they take the bait so easily. You have to wonder about people who read and respond to comments in which they are totally mocked.  
 
And Ashley - so you think I'm simian. Good. If you keep reading my comments, it shows that you love the feces that I'm flinging.  
Posted by: claudo on Mon 3.23 9:37am  
 
Does anyone else see the irony in Claudo's post? If it wasn't so ignorant it would be funny. Talk about projection.
 
They get all upset about a picture? What are they afraid of?
 
They lie. They distort. They are vile.
 
This place is quite mild by comparison.
 
They actually believe they are doing a valuable service by watching Fox News so "you dont have to". Fortunately, their audience is a sorry band of intellectual midgets who somehow beleive that they actually matter.
March 23, 2009, 11:41:44 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Who's Amanda?
 
Re: "FNC AM's HD makeover": I hope this means other SD shows make the switch to HD. I also hope this means that "The Factor" returns to Studio A starting tonight and the same for "Red Eye."
March 23, 2009, 11:52:06 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
And Grammie, Think Progress picked up on Bill's throwaway Hersh/MSNBC joke and made it sound serious. Therefore, Keith Olbermann will use that TP source and attack Bill tonight.
He'll likely abandon shtick, drop the music, and use soft-spoken "Bill O'Reilly has left reality"-type theatrical indignation and faux outrage. Also, the church shooter will be brought up, which means an ancillary Bernie Goldberg attack. Plus, other things that escape me right now.
March 23, 2009, 11:54:04 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Blackflon | 03.23.09 - 11:46 am | #  
 
Thanks for the info. Claudo's response, where he apparently admits to playing with his own bodily waste, tells me one thing. My monkees at the zoo comment was apparently a bullseye.
 
My morning coffee seems to taste even better now.
March 23, 2009, 11:56:10 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
"While their beloved leader pretends that he runs some kind of intellectual think tank,"
 
I take extreme offense at this for Johnny's sake as well as my own.
 
Johnny is my DEAR LEADER! So there!
March 23, 2009, 12:06:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Howard Dean may have been hired at CNBC, but he's really been hired at MSNBC. Great Thanks.
March 23, 2009, 12:20:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Two great articles at NB. The MRC article is quite detailed and has some good links.:
 
Maher: Glenn Beck Increasing Chance of 'Horrible Action' on Obama  
 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/03/21/maher-glenn-beck-increasing-chance-horrible-action-obama
 
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Olbermann: ‘Lunatic Fringe’ MRC ‘Fed Talking Points’ to Hume, Joe the Plumber’s ‘Gay’ Entrance w/ ‘God Bless USA’
 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2009/03/21/olbermann-lunatic-fringe-mrc-fed-talking-points-hume-joe-plumber-s-ga
March 23, 2009, 12:37:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
Regarding Terkel's whining.....
 
Oh boy, the haters are up in arms to explain their targeting of the IT HAPPENED TO ALEXA FOUNDATION in their continuing crusade smearing Bill O'Reilly.
 
What's that cliche about heat and kitchens?.....
March 23, 2009, 1:41:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Well, they certainly have no deviation in their ability to reason, Grammie, Blackfon, and Ashley.
 
Who else would argue that have undermined you, by their dedicating so much of their own time, effort, and thought, into baiting YOU...
 
You've got to hand it to them. They're consistently illogical, irrational, and adolescent.
 
I suppose their consistency in that should count for something...
March 23, 2009, 1:44:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
What a journalist's skill in invesitgation and reporting Keithy displays:
 
"....there is some connection between the fake me, and a former figure at Fox News."
 
###
Oh my, that's informative. I am waiting on the edge of my seat for COUNTDOWN's crack investigative team to assemble the evidence on that earth-shattering conspiracy.
 
The modern-day Edward R. Murrow's reputation must be protected. NBC NEWS better get on that quick!
March 23, 2009, 2:05:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
As always, right on the money Cecelia.
 
Has anyone else noticed the change at NH that I have?
 
There seems to be a bit of stilted arkwardness to their latest comments, from sometime late in the day yesterday, as they all seem to have spontaneously? cleaned up their acts. It's almost as if without their security blanket of verbal sexual attacks and profanity they're just not quite comfortable. What is that saying about "not comfortable in their own skin"?
March 23, 2009, 2:14:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
"The main issue remains: O’Reilly should offer an apology/explanation of why, when a woman is raped and murdered, it’s relevant what she was wearing or how much she was drinking. O’Reilly never asked me for a statement nor invited me on his show before sending Watters to harass me. Since I’m a 5 ft, 100 pound woman with an opinion that he doesn’t like, perhaps O’Reilly believes I deserve to be treated this way."
 
Absurd isn't it?
 
If this woman has a daughter, in a scenario where she made it home safely, after a circumstance similar to the one leading up to Jennifer's death, what do you think this woman would say to her child?
 
Do you imagine for one minute that she wouldn't be on her daughter's case about her having been drunk on the street in club gear in the middle of the night?
 
It's an attempt to correct the time when women were held suspect in their own rape, with a method of politically correct thought control that defies all common sense.  
 
In using her own small stature in suggesting that evil ole O'Reilly thought she was vulnerable enough to be prey, she is acquiescing to the WHOLLY rational concept that her appearance and circumstance could certainly effect a rapists decision to go after her.  
 
Acknowledging THAT and acting accordingly is NOT abetting the mindset of a violent person and giving them justification, it's taking control away from them.
 
Logic won't cut any slack in with this. The whole issue is pinned down by a tag team of speech control allied with animosity towards O'Reilly.
March 23, 2009, 2:14:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Johnny,
 
I don't know if you noticed or not, but I wanted to mention, that in the News Hounds thread dedicated to you, Ellen posted a message (in the midst of posts using epithets for gays and women) telling the others that she is just fine with that particular thread being on the site.  
 
It happened just after Grammie and I started criticizing Peggy for being a part of such a group.  
 
When we started and Peggy replied, there was a moment after that, that the men stopped with the awful posts. I think they were waiting on the response from Peggy and even from some other females.  
 
Interestingly enough, two other women who consistently post at NHs have bemoaned that thread's existence (because it focuses on attention on you) and that it is "sticky". I think Patrick, AAP, Claudo-- were pausing to see which way the wind might blow for them with these ladies, with other women who happened to notice the fracas, and with Ellen.  
 
When Ellen wrote that post saying that the thread was "just fine with me", they immediately jumped in with both feet again.
 
It was quite a shock to me, because I thought Ellen merely tolerated the thread rather than actually embracing the things on it.
 
That's not the case. She's more than fine about what they do, she's all for it.
 
It's quite an eye-opener.
March 23, 2009, 2:21:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Fauxbermann
 
Just saw that on the kos link. It's a keeper!
March 23, 2009, 2:23:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Ladies! Ladies! Pay attention ladies!  
 
We all have a rare treat from the ever lovely and gracious of "We're gonna git that suckah" fame, Pegleg. Have you ever felt a bit arkward and uncomfortable when meeting someone new? I know I have, but no more.  
 
Stiudy, learn and improve yourself by watching Pegleg in action.
 
An obviously hopeful and perhaps young person announces her first time participation at NH:
 
"Hi New here
 
Hello everyone! [url=http://my.nbc.com/Kim_Kardashian_Sex]:D[/url]
I'm new to forum.newshounds.us.
I hope I can be a regular here!
_________________
[url=http://my.nbc.com/Kim_Kardashian_Sex]free kim kardashian sex tape[/url]
 
Posted by: jennehax on Mon 3.23 6:47am
--------------------------------------------------
 
Now watch the calm ease with which Pegleg greets her and immediately sets her at ease:
 
If you're irregular you can take ex-lax, but we would prefer you take your dump over at Crapper2.
_________________
 
Posted by: pegleg peggy on Mon 3.23 10:10am"
----------------------------------------------------
 
Such charm is a rare thing of beauty too often missing in our modern hectic world.
March 23, 2009, 2:42:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
A nice article at NH about Larry King's remark to Tim Shriver re Obama dissing the Special Olympics and its participants.
 
Larry King: Obama's Bowling Gaffe Good Because It Focuses Attention on Special Olympics
 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/03/21/larry-king-obamas-bowling-gaffe-good-because-it-focuses-attention-spe
.
March 23, 2009, 2:47:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Re: Matthews reups, Marty has her own excellent take about this on Chickaboomer.
March 23, 2009, 3:23:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
This is hilarious.
 
The News Hounds passing judgement on conservative blog sites.
 
The hypocrisy never ends.
 
http://www.newshounds.us/2009/03/23/fox_news_pundits_think_liberal_blogs_are_bad.php
March 23, 2009, 3:36:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
TV DOESN’T GET DUMBER THAN THIS!
 
http://www.newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=7a2ae264-25b5-4c40-8ed6-0c4eb8095da6
 
"The clip in question is a sequence of goofs about the feebleness, uselessness and absurdity of the Canadian Armed Forces. Why would I call that dumb? Here's why, courtesy of CanWest News. Sorry I disrespected your show, RedEye fans - but you disrespected the dead. --David Frum"
 
Also,
 
"Canadians express outrage"
 
The Red Eye segment has sparked outrage from a range of Canadians, including thousands of comments on YouTube and Facebook."
 
Defence Minister Peter MacKay, had called for Fox to apologize for the derogatory Red Eye comments, describing the remarks made last week "despicable, hurtful and ignorant."
 
The host of an over-the-top, late-night Fox network show has apologized for any disrespect he may have caused to the Canadian military
 
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/story/2009/03/23/redeye-soldiers-mocking.html
 
I take it the CBC falls under your guidelines and is considered a Cable News Site.
 
So much for that 'false indignation'!
March 23, 2009, 3:52:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
Well at least Gutfeld had the decency to make an apology, which it now seems you refuse to publish. That says a lot about him, and this site!
March 23, 2009, 4:21:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Re: "Ambushee's preemptive strike": Now, Vendettamann has the source for his second O'Reilly Attack tonight. Expect to hear "Little Jesse [Ding!] and that equally unfunny (along with Ted Baxter) squeaky teen voice. By the way, Keith, superb job getting your Olbsession banned from that Alexa fundraiser last Thursday. Oh, wait.
For we clear-thinkers, the ambush will likely air in the Reality Check segment. And don't forget to watch the post-game show on BillOReilly.com. It's free for the first week, but available only for premium members (like me) after that.
March 23, 2009, 4:31:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
sorry for the long delay in posts. I am experiencing a complete ISP failure at the moment. I have no cable, no phone, and no internet. I'm communicating on my laptop via a local WiFi connection! If you don't hear from me tonight, or if posts are a long time getting updated/moderated, that's why.
March 23, 2009, 5:38:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Good find, Cecelia. I noticed the strained effort to clean up their act and then noticed later that everything returned to abnormal. What I didn't put together was Ellen's comment affecting them.
 
Good luck, Johnny.  
 
I missed you today.
March 23, 2009, 6:05:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply


david smawley
I propose a new NH scale to judge the most effective conservative communicators. If you are not the subject of a newshound smear, you are not doing enough for FoxNews and conservative principles. The folks are voting with thier viewing habits and totally reject the "We Watch Fox So You Don't To" offer from these haters. Johnny, perhaps you could reward the FoxNews personality that does the best job of enraging these lunitics with a weekly award on your new NH Sunday Summary Segment.
March 23, 2009, 6:08:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
It's too bad Gutfeld apologized for that.  
 
You couldn't get a finer example of how political culture has gotten so petty and superficial.
 
Gutfeld could have launched into a tirade of the current Canadian govt, that charged them with being total sell-outs to the U.S., and as having led the Canadian rank and file soldier into perpetrating death and destruction upon innocent Afghanis of having turned these men and women into wholesale killers, and it would be the daily drone of political back-and-forth commentary.
 
It would be guaranteed not to raise a hair on any head in its utter predictability, other than some blue-blog comments about Gutfeld's "growing" political awareness and depth of insight.
 
Sheesh...
March 23, 2009, 6:17:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Well at least Gutfeld had the decency to make an apology, which it now seems you refuse to publish. That says a lot about him, and this site!
onefortheroad | 03.23.09 - 4:26 pm | #  
 
Perhaps it says something about you that you jumped to this conclusion...
March 23, 2009, 6:19:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Spud did a great job scaring me into thinking that Keith is going to come out of this a winner and that BOR has ruined his career. (No offense.)
March 23, 2009, 6:20:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Great ratings again for FNC. As expected, Mr. Czechoslovakia's ratings for his live show, can't even beat the BOR rating when BOR isn't there!
March 23, 2009, 6:26:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
What is that saying about "not comfortable in their own skin"?
Grammie | 03.23.09 - 2:19 pm | #  
 
They are over there bitching at each other now.
 
Don't worry. They will be back to their vile selves shortly.
 
p.s And don't mispell any words. It seems to get the Einstein's at NH all lathered up.
March 23, 2009, 6:29:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
Cecelia...as usual, nail on head.....
 
"In using her own small stature in suggesting that evil ole O'Reilly thought she was vulnerable enough to be prey, she is acquiescing to the WHOLLY rational concept that her appearance and circumstance could certainly effect a rapists decision to go after her."
 
And many (Olbermann) will run with that despite the irony. O'Reilly's a bully that CHOOSES his victims based on, on, on....THEIR APPEARANCES.
 
Mmmm....interesting dynamic....."blaming the victim."
 
And onefortheroad,  
 
I think I remember The NY Post making a similar apology regarding a certain cartoon but making it clear that their apology was not for those prepared to feign phony outrage for personal political purposes.....
 
I am "pretty" sure, based on the wording of the apology, that Mr Gutfeld is not apologizing to a single poster at NH, kos or THINK PROGRESS.
 
Nor should he.
 
Intent is important not only for the accused, but also for the accusers.
 
Does anyone remember Nellie Olsen from the writings of Laura Ingalls Wilder?
March 23, 2009, 6:29:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Good news. Comcast claims they'll have someone out by 9:00 pm. I should be back in full force some time tonight. With luck I'll get to see '24'. Bear with me this 'default' WiFi network that I found is slower than molasses.
March 23, 2009, 6:35:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
So the Friends are launching the war on Presidential laughter/smiling....Haggis shakes his head at this nonsense and laughs at them.  
 
They weren't happy that President Obama was seen laughing during his 60 minutes interview last night. They leaped on the comment by Steve Kroft about being "punch drunk"....They also showed the clip of this being said many times.....But as usual there is a but when it comes to the Friends and editing. They nicely edited out why Obama was laughing just before the statement about being "punch drunk was made. Kroft/Obama had started to talk about bailing out the auto industry....President Obama Said "the only thing less popular than putting money into banks is putting money into the auto industry" He was laughing while he said this....you also can hear Kroft laughing. Kroft then gave the pole results on bailing out the auto industry and then he asked about the laughing....This is were the Fox footage began. Put simply the Fox editing didn't let the viewer know the true context of the laughing....I report you decide why this was done.  
 
They also didn't report that Steve Kroft said this right at the start of the 60 minutes programme: "under the circumstances the president seemed confident relaxed and comfortable in his new job after a very difficult week"
 
Link to video...The laughing the friends were outraged at starts around the 15min mark.
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4883409n
March 23, 2009, 7:00:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Mike C.....Once again thanks for the info last week on the family guy episode airing last night.....Brian was simply superb at summing up what FNC are all about. :lol: I hope your hate for the family guy producers has cooled down a bit.
March 23, 2009, 7:06:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
david smawley | 03.23.09 - 6:13 pm | #  
 
I notice you have the same idea that Ronalus Magnificus had.
 
As Bill Bennet related he was not looking forward to the next cabinet meeting at a time when he was being crucified in the media. When the meeting came to order his worst fears were confirmed b/c President Reagan immediately brought it all up. However, his chagrin turned to delight when the President scolded all the other Secretaries for not being in dutch with the media. If they were getting good press they mustn't be doing their job.
March 23, 2009, 7:20:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply


iBlog
Why is Olbermann constantly saying let the buyer beware? I don't see how that applies to twitter?
March 23, 2009, 7:26:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
I am "pretty" sure, based on the wording of the apology, that Mr Gutfeld is not apologizing to a single poster at NH, kos or THINK PROGRESS.
 
Nor should he, they are all (?) AMERICAN or hadn't you noticed!
 
It's CANADIANS that are offended Cee.... now how has that managed to escaped you?
 
Really do you people twist everything in knots trying to justify rude and callous behaviour. I thought Americans had a little more smarts than that!
March 23, 2009, 7:31:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Red Eye, the show that caused a furor
 
by ellen
 
Did I miss the "furor?"
March 23, 2009, 7:48:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Geoffrey
I really like FNC's HD upgrade. I'm not sure how I feel about the new America's Newsroom logo, but at least the show has the same kind of lower-third that the rest of the shows are getting.
 
I'm not thrilled about how some of the news shows are sharing space with the opinion shows. Glenn Beck and FOX Report use the same studio, and now America's Newsroom is on Hannity's set (which was used on Election Night). It would be nice to see a separation.
March 23, 2009, 8:04:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


TR
Apology by Gutfeld accepted, but don't let it happen again.
March 23, 2009, 8:09:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Cee,
 
Her size statement was a way of conveying to the audience that she had been victimized in the sense that she is just a small lady ambushed by several men. That they had scared her to death.  
 
She's asking for sympathy for this, and in this she has mine. She is on the money that the ethical way to have handled her dissent would have been to have been asked to voice it on The Factor.
 
She has my sympathy too in that she's also right that she is a vulnerable appearing target. It's likely that the way she more than understands this in life and acts accordingly by taking precautions, is the sort of commonsense recognition of reality that she will only voice and allow to be voiced within the strictest of political contexts.
March 23, 2009, 8:18:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Juan Williams outragiously just used the totally discredited Coach K quote against President Obama....And he's supposed to be a Democrat....More like a FNC propagandists and a hater of things Obama.
March 23, 2009, 8:21:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
This is HIlarious! The mutts have a post up claiming that Red Eye won't be on tonight, replaced by Oliver North's War Stories.
 
Unfortunately, they watch so little Fox themselves that they don't even realize they're showing the WEEKEND lineup, complete with Geraldo at 1:00 am (ironically, Red Eye precedes Geraldo on weekends, airing at midnight). In fact they're looking at the schedule for early Monday morning--TODAY!!!
 
I'm taking a screengrab of this stupidity because it won't be long before they disappear this embarrassing spectacle.
 
Will get to those posts piled up for moderation soon. Comcast guy is at work.
March 23, 2009, 8:27:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
you could reward the FoxNews personality that does the best job of enraging these lunitics with a weekly award on your new NH Sunday Summary Segment.
david smawley | 03.23.09 - 6:13 pm | #  
 
Just hand that award over to Olby Sucks and the apoplexy he give AAP.  
 
AAP's cries of "troll" are of special hilarity to OWers.
 
I'm going to publish the full list of AAP troll names he posted under at OW, if Johnny obliges.
 
Bob Cox outed them and to see them (HUNDREDS-- no joke! Many of them very obscene!) is to know that this guy needs a psychiatrist.
March 23, 2009, 8:28:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
p.s And don't mispell any words. It seems to get the Einstein's at NH all lathered up.
Blackflon | 03.23.09 - 6:34 pm | #  
 
If you can't draw a line at obscenity, racism, sexism, homophobia, and lurid slander, I suppose an emphasis on spelling helps you feel that you've raised some sort of standard...  
March 23, 2009, 8:33:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.23.09 - 8:32 pm |
 
An honest mistake....even you make those...remember your little slip up over me and limewire? I've also got a screenshot of that reply...just in case
March 23, 2009, 8:37:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Nards Barley
Hilarious is you distorting their post.  
 
"I don't want to read too much into this because it could easily be a mistake"
 


Edited By Siteowner
March 23, 2009, 8:48:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Yeah, but they claimed the mistake was Fox's. It wasn't. It was theirs. They know so little about the channel they claim to watch that they couldn't even recognize this morning's schedule!
 
Sorry the rest of your post was deleted due to it being a duplicative link.
March 23, 2009, 8:52:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
Cecelia | 03.23.09 - 6:24 pm  
 
And how long do usually wait to have your post published.........one hour, two hours????
 
Just give me a guide line so I won't jump the gun in future.
 
Also, my reply to cee...... How long before that get's published, or is the site just so backed up and everything is so out of order?
 
Just a tidbit:
 
Benson's has been told that a show he planned to give in Edmonton can't go on, because people are so angry at his remarks.
 
Now tell be again how we Canadians are 'falsely indignant" or are you starting to recognize genuine anger when you see it?
March 23, 2009, 9:11:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
I wrote the following at Olbermann Watch after the Reality Check segment on "The Factor":
I hope you all were watching the Reality Check segment on "The O'Reilly Factor" tonight. It was very powerful and went right to the heart of the Olbermann-Newshounds-Think Progress hate-fueled crusade. I also hope Keith is reading this once he gets out of the proverbial [Ding!] bathtub. See how much pain you and your pals caused Alexa Branchini? Do you see what the hell you did, sir?! I don't know how the hell you live with yourself. Nor do I know how the people at these other far-left sites live with themselves. Do yourself a favor Keith and quit your job. Let Ed Schultz take over for you or move Maddow to 8:00, put Schultz at 9:00, and Seder or Cenk whatever his name is on at 10:00. But get the hell off the air, you devil.
I probably lost some points by saying "you devil"--it makes me sound like a fire-and-brimstone evangelist--but whatever.
March 23, 2009, 9:16:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
The mutts did everything they could to prevent the help the Alexa Foundation asked for, from reaching that wonderful organization. Their only desire was to hurt Bill O'Reilly, and not to help the innocent victims.
March 23, 2009, 9:43:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
"Now tell be again how we Canadians are 'falsely indignant" or are you starting to recognize genuine anger when you see it?
onefortheroad | 03.23.09 - 9:16 pm | # "
 
We all have the right to decide for ourselves our opinion of others. You say "genuine rage" and I say faux outrage for political reasons. Unless you are prepared to accept any statement made by anyone, say BOR, as being incontrevertible b/c he knows what he means.
 
That might not be a bad trade now that I think about it.
March 23, 2009, 9:45:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Haggis - did you ever figure out if J$ asked you to prove the friends did know about the BO apology, or did J$ ask you to prove the friends did not know about the BO apology.
 
Just curious, as you whined to your friends over at the dogpound about it.
March 23, 2009, 9:45:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Insert Witty Name Here
I saw the segment. It's bad enough they harassed the workers at the organization, but to find out that Alexa herself had to quit her job due to this "protest" is beyond reprehensible. All the people that participated in this "protest" are BELOW the barrel scum. 
 
And after reading what Spud posted over at ICN I throw him into that category as well for siding with Turkel before even having a chance to see the segment. Even if O'Reilly was just trying to "pick a fight", it needed to be done. If it hadn't been for that segment I never would have known just what hell Alexa and her family were put through.
March 23, 2009, 9:56:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Hear hear, IWNH.
March 23, 2009, 10:22:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
"Faux outrage for political reasons" and an incontrovertible BOR (who ever that maybe), just what do either of these things have to do with insults thrown at Canada or Canadians reaction to those insults?
 
Are you suggesting that we have something to gain by 'pretending' that we are enraged?
 
I am sure your State Department is glad that you are not in charge, Grammie.
Because they probably already have their hands full......with all our 'false indignation' floating around!
 
More than one Canadian MPs has 'pretended' outrage today, not only our Defense Minister, Peter McKay, who is demanding an apology from Fox.
 
I am beginning to suspect that you just don't get it, do you? 
 
This isn't a game, although I am dying to see Rick Mercer get his hands on this one. Now that will be a show worth watching and might teach all of you about Comedy.
 
I'll be sure to come back and post that one for you, but whether it is let by the gate keeper is another question!
March 23, 2009, 10:26:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
One more comment like that and the 'gate keeper' is going to do what you keep suggesting. A word of warning.
March 23, 2009, 10:38:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Cecelia, I hope its OK with Johnny. I don't think most people who didn't experience have any idea just how perverted Patsy is.
 
One suggestion. I wouldn't put the entire list. It is pages with no break and I think one becomes numb to it after a while. Maybe better to consider smaller doses over several times. Of course, that is if Johnny agrees.
March 23, 2009, 10:45:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
The ambushee has spun a response to the aired ambush, omitting the knock-out blow that BOR and Wendy Murphy provided.
I won't link to it, though. I'll let Johnny handle that.
March 23, 2009, 10:51:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
Well I am sorry, but isn't that the function. 
 
Your people accuse me of being thin skinned because I take offense that supposed comedians, that I have never heard of, denigrate Canada and Canadians, but then you seemingly sensor a Canadian Comedian joking about Americans.
 
Turn around isn't considered fair play south of the border......or are you not as thick skinned as you thought?
 
They don't come much bigger than Rick Mercer, not for a Canadian. Yet I did not see that post make it's way through. But perhaps it just got lost in the flow.
March 23, 2009, 10:55:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
"Are you suggesting that we have something to gain by 'pretending' that we are enraged?"
 
You may take from it what you wish b/c everyone, and that includes you, is entitled to form their own opinions. BTW, that also includes me.
 
Not only do I think much of the outrage is faux but I also think that ignoring the message in in an orgy of rage over a talk show comedy routine is foolish and dangerous.
 
There is no doubt that that is all Red Eye is and for the Canadian government to become so outraged, or I believe that is your contention, is sheer folly. Just in case anyone doesn't know Red Eye is not related to the US State Dept in any way so why the governmental response?
March 23, 2009, 10:59:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
If you want to comment here, you are welcome. But you don't do anything for your cause with nonsensical arguments. How can you accuse me of 'censoring' anything? If you understood the meaning of the word you'd know that no website, tv station, or radio show can censor anyone. Censorship is government action. This site is not about abridging your 1st Amendment rights, because you have none here. It's not your site. When it's your site you can have all the rights you want. But it's not your site, and you have all the rights the site owner chooses to give you.
 
Those rights are spelled out in the rules, where, if you read them, you would find that there is no possible relevance to this site to a Canadian comedian's inane comments. You may find them just oh so hilarious, so perhaps you should start a site like HilariousCanadianComics.com and have at it. Oh excuse me, that would be .ca.
 
Perhaps now you understand what censorship really means, and why the ravings of a hack alleged comic like Mercer are not on topic for a cable news blog.
 
Or to put it more succinctly: you're wrong and I'm right.
March 23, 2009, 11:02:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Insert Witty Name Here
The whole "enraged Canadians" motif is mostly phony indignation. It's meant to be a deflection from the true heart of the matter: how ridiculous it is to put the military of a nation on hiatus for a year. Why else would the government officials of a country concern themselves over such a trifling matter like a joke on a late night show other than the fact that said show exposed their incompetence?
March 23, 2009, 11:11:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
the ravings of hack alleged comics like those on Red Eye are not on topic for a cable news blog?
 
Or to put it more succinctly: you're wrong and I'm right.
 
BTW?
Who's cable news? We are having an international dispute, not an American dispute, I am sure by the sounds of it you have plenty of those.
March 23, 2009, 11:14:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply


notveryhow
Or to put it more succinctly: you're wrong and I'm right.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.23.09 - 11:07 pm |
 
More accurately you should say "It's my blog and I'll do what I want."
March 23, 2009, 11:18:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
You're wrong too.
March 23, 2009, 11:21:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Change of pace:
 
....Haggis shakes his head at this nonsense and laughs at them.-Haggis
 
Elsa Ronningstam, associate clinical professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School and author of Identifying and Understanding the Narcissistic Personality: Referring to yourself in the third person creates distance between "I" and "he." So if you have an exaggerated view of how great you are, you could be using this distance to make yourself even bigger.
March 23, 2009, 11:27:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


ZoneDaiatlas
This is must read for all the Canadians who are complaining about Greg Gutfeld and Fox News... By the way, TaffyinCanada is a “White Supremacist” posing as an “Anti-Jihadist”. I wonder if the Canadian Government or anybody else would like to comment on that bit of information…
 
http://www.publicpost.ca/2009/03/outrage-hypocritical-canadians-military-fox-news-red-eye-greg-gutfeld/
March 23, 2009, 11:38:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
Grammie | 03.23.09 - 11:04 pm | # 
 
Sorry Grammie dear you misunderstand me, your State Department is glad that you don't work there. They already have enough troubles fending off angry Canadians, without you making them (the Canadians) even angrier.
 
BTW when Jean Cretain's assistant called Gorge Bush a Moron, back before the Iraqi War, we you one of the Americans that dislayed "false indignation"?
 
Insert Witty Name Here| 03.23.09 - 11:16 pm | # 
 
None of you seem to be able to grasp this concept, so I will attempt to explain once again. We don't have 4 year terms up here in Canada. So our politicians have to be a little more concerned about the man on the street. Yes, even our Prime Minister, because we can vote him out whenever we wish. If we are mad enough, we have several Opposition Parties that will be quite happy to through him out of power and force an election. I realize it is very different from the States, even George Bush didn't understand it on his first trip to Canada when he wanted Paul Martin to accept Star Wars and Mr. Martin explained the people wouldn't accept that action.
 
Secondly: The Mission to Afghanistan finishes in 2011 at that point the Military will stand down and come home. He suggested that they then take a year before accepting any new missions. He did not mean which seems to be your continued assumption that Canada will remain undefended for the year!
 
Even peace loving Canadians wouldn't care for that, I assure you.
 
After all we now have it on the record that Red Eye plans to attack us, so we will be ready I assure you.
March 23, 2009, 11:47:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
"no possible relevance to this site to a Canadian comedian's inane comments"
 
He is more than an inane comedian to us Canadians an as I said this is an international outrage, so you will have to bare with me to a certain extent, because Mr. Mercer has in fact replied to the Red Eye.
 
Obviously whether you publish this post or not is up to you, as you have said, you are the site owner.
 
"Rick Mercer to Fox: Bullying is not satire"
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090323.wfoxmercer0323/BNStory/Entertainment/home?cid=al_gam_mostemail
March 24, 2009, 12:35:56 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
"Sorry Grammie dear you misunderstand me, your State Department is glad that you don't work there. "
 
Roadie, dear, have you finally followed my advice and started early, perhaps too early. Dear, I don't have a clue what prompted that statement from you.
 
"Sorry Grammie dear you misunderstand me, your State Department is glad that you don't work there. They already have enough troubles fending off angry Canadians, without you making them (the Canadians) even angrier."
 
I vaguely remember the incident but I am sure my reaction would be have been similar to my normal reaction to grossly rude heads of state or spokesman speaking for them such as Hugo Chavez or Iran's demented president: outrage.
 
However, why would you ever equate a middle of the night cable talk show host to your PM? I am sure Gutfield would be pleased to have the power and status that you attribute to him. I am not, however, sure your PM would enjoy being demoted to the level of a middle of night cable guy.
March 24, 2009, 12:47:38 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Sorry, the above should start with this quote:
 
"BTW when Jean Cretain's assistant called Gorge Bush a Moron, back before the Iraqi War, we you one of the Americans that dislayed "false indignation"?"
 
I vaguely remember the incident but I am sure my reaction would be have been similar to my normal reaction to grossly rude heads of state or spokesman speaking for them such as Hugo Chavez or Iran's demented president: outrage.
 
However, why would you ever equate a middle of the night cable talk show host to your PM? I am sure Gutfield would be pleased to have the power and status that you attribute to him. I am not, however, sure your PM would enjoy being demoted to the level of a middle of night cable guy.
 
Sorry for the confusion.
March 24, 2009, 1:16:55 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Insert Witty Name Here
The fact that you're trying to equate what your former Prime Minister said to what some goofballs said on a late-night show that isn't even meant to be taken seriously shows that you're the one who can't "grasp the concept". I highly doubt you'll ever see a DoD official demanding an apology from any Canadian TV personalities over any jokes made about the US or its military. In fact considering the administration we have now I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't join in on the fun.
 
There are blue blogs out there lying about the timing of when this was shown in order to gin up more outrage. If this story was so outrageous to begin with there would be no reason to lie about it. I get the strong feeling that if this same routine had been done on "The Daily Show" or "The Colbert Report" there wouldn't even be a hundredth of the outrage shown. But because it's an FNC show they have to hang 'em high.
March 24, 2009, 1:18:57 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Bingo.
March 24, 2009, 1:25:11 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
There are blue blogs out there lying about the timing of when this was shown in order to gin up more outrage. If this story was so outrageous to begin with there would be no reason to lie about it. I get the strong feeling that if this same routine had been done on "The Daily Show" or "The Colbert Report" there wouldn't even be a hundredth of the outrage shown. But because it's an FNC show they have to hang 'em high.
Insert Witty Name Here | 03.24.09 - 1:23 am | # 
 
Well, I think our Canadian friend needs to understand too, that he may have been assisted in the Canadian outrage dept, by officials who would far rather have public focus on a 3am comedy show, than upon the recent deaths of Canadian troops.
 
Especially, considering the way that he/she has expressly described the public climate in Canada.
March 24, 2009, 2:17:32 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
The same people making this red eye thing a story out of a non-story are the very same people that claim Fox News is "irrelevant" and "can't be taken seriously." I wish they would make their mind up.
March 24, 2009, 2:56:06 AM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
"if this same routine had been done on "The Daily Show" or "The Colbert Report" there wouldn't even be a hundredth of the outrage shown. But because it's an FNC show they have to hang 'em high."
 
Insert Witty Name Here | 03.24.09 - 1:23 am |
 
###
So true, but like I said above, the accuser was initially many blue blogs here in The United States....The Nellie Olsens of our country who tattle on those bad ol' people over at FOX to whomever they have slighted, minute to minute.....
 
Think about it, onefortheroad....Gutfeld apologized in regards to the INTERPRETATION that he was degrading the sacrifice of those brave Canadian soldiers who sacrificed for freedom. He did not apologize for anything else, thankfully.
 
Nellie Olsen got her hateful impulse fed, but she is hungry again today and she is hunting with her DVR, computer and cell phone to get that tattle tale out to the next insulted person. It's a wonderful, healthy behavior, is it not?
 
I really encourage you to look into the motives of people whispering indignation into your ear and remember the multiple agendas that are at play, their implications on free speech and the freedom of people to speak freely, take responsibility for things they say (they apologize) and then be forgiven based on a rational assessment of their intentions.
 
The concept is justice. I hate to inform you, but mobs and their pols have been pretty poor dispensers of justice in the past. Get a pitch fork, torch, rope and a nearby tree?
 
Your posts above, onefortheroad, seem to suggest you have not gotten your pound of flesh in revenge for Red Eye's sin.....despite Gutfeld's apology. Self rightousness is also a problem of the Nellie Olsens of the world.
 
What do you want....someone to be fired? FNC to lose their cable feed? Rupert's left ear? Someone else, a long time ago, used his sword for such a purpose and was rightfully rebuked.
March 24, 2009, 7:23:26 AM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
Your concern for my sleeping patterns is commendable, but more of a night owl than an early riser. I didn't realize you closed up shop and retired for the night quite so early.
 
I'll have to add that to my list of do's and don'ts, this site is most confusing in that respect.
 
You have all covered quite a bit of ground this morning, so you will forgive me if I take a few moments to digest it. Mean while I have a link from our CTV national network. You will find a series of videos in the top right hand side of the screen that will give you the Canadian perspective.
 
You keep mentioning American Blogs. You will have to provide the links as I have restricted myself to your site and Canadian blogs and News sites. Therefore I find them a little irrelevant to our current discussion. 
 
I came here and started this discussion because I watched a video clip on this site a while back that expressed Fox's interest in broadening their base and hoping to extend their influence in Canada. I did not feel the Red Eye segment would further these desires.
But of course I will defer to your expertise, both on Fox and our 'faux outrage', perhaps I am wrong and they will be a huge success.
March 24, 2009, 10:10:06 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"After all we now have it on the record that Red Eye plans to attack us, so we will be ready I assure you."
 
Well they have the manpower to do it. I've been to Canada many times. From what I saw, if I wanted to take over the country, I could do it in about two days flat.
March 24, 2009, 12:57:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.24.09 - 1:02 pm | #
 
A little out of context, so you miss the dripping sarcasm, but come up Johnny generally we are an easy going friendly people. But there are limits!
 
Whether you wish to acknowledge it or not Red Eye went way over the limits of decency, even for a comedy show. 
 
I am sorry I actually forgot the link in my above post, so I will add it now.
 
http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090323/military_comments_090323/20090323/?hub=TorontoNewHome
 
Listen to the first video, Scott Laurie , if nothing else. Lt. General Leslie briefly gives his views on how his word were construded, but the are all quite enlightening to your American posters who seem to have a definite lack of understanding.
March 24, 2009, 1:56:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
"So the Friends are launching the war on Presidential laughter/smiling....Haggis shakes his head at this nonsense and laughs at them." ///snip///They nicely edited out why Obama was laughing just before the statement about being "punch drunk was made. Kroft/Obama had started to talk about bailing out the auto industry....///snip///
" Put simply ....I report you decide why this was done." -Haggis 03.23.09 - 7:05 pm 
=-=-=-=
Contrary to unpopular belief, the auto industry was not the sole source of Obama's laughter, Kroft's question about Obama's laughter or FOX News F&F segment about Obama's laughter.
 
STEVE KROFT:
You're sitting here. And you're-- you are laughing. You are laughing about SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS. Are people going to look at this and say, "I mean, he's sitting there just MAKING JOKES ABOUT (LAUGHTER) MONEY--" How do you deal with-- I mean, wh-- explain -
 
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
Well--
 
STEVE KROFT:
--the mood and your laughter.
 
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
Yeah, I mean, there's got to be--
 
STEVE KROFT:
Are you punch drunk?
=-=-=-=
 
Is there any doubt Steve Kroft was not aware of what preceded the above exchange? Is there any doubt that "the Fox (F&F) editing didn't let the viewer know the true context of the laughing" is a preposterous and disengeuos Haggis claim? Does the fact that FOX News aired the section Haggis says F&F edited for the purpose of taking Obama's laughter out of contex, several times throughout the day have any effect on Haggis's conspiracy theory. Does the fact that every cable news network and broadcast network aired the identical portion of the interview F&F showed enter into Haggis's conspiracy?
 
I ask, you answer.
March 24, 2009, 6:54:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


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March 24, 2009, 10:11:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply