1/18/10 12:31 PM

Fox Haters Week in Review

Andy Ostroy, The Huffington Post, and some blatant, despicable lies. We expose the fabricators in the latest fun-filled edition of Fox Haters Week in Review!

Facts? We Don't Need No Stinkin' Facts:
You may recall when this site broke the story of the Huffington Post smear of John Gibson. It featured a video that had been doctored to make Gibson say something he didn't say. This embarrassing lie would never have been published if the writer of their piece had taken even minimal fact-checking steps, like reading the transcript or checking against actual video of what happened. But such lessons aren't learned easily in the Fox haters echo chamber. Now HuffPo has done it again.

In the wake of Fox Broadcasting's decision not to air the President's heathcare address, we were convinced that Julie Driscoll's incoherent drivel represented the absolute nadir of intelligent reportage. But then Andy Ostroy hadn't posted yet. Mr Ostroy's hysterical diatribe doubled down on ignorance as he blasted Fox News Channel for--you guessed it--not carrying the Obama address:

Every single major network and cable-tv news network carried the prime-time address live...except the self-proclaimed Fair and Balanced Fox News. How better to continue dumbing-down your audience than to censor what they see and hear that just might spoil their partisan delusioin. Why give them another side of an issue?...Wouldn't the fair and balanced thing to do be to simple, well, be fair and balanced? To let your viewers see the speech and make up their own minds?
Mr Ostroy obviously had no idea what was airing on FNC that night. If he did, he would know that, contrary to his claim, FNC did carry the speech. In fact, Fox News was the clear cable news choice for Obama viewers--it wasn't even close.

It was only after commenters repeatedly pointed out that he didn't know what he was talking about that Ostroy revised his article, claiming that his "inadvertent statement" about Fox News was merely an "unintentional error". Right. An article castigating Fox News Channel for not carrying the speech, complete with FNC screen grabs and this headline:
Fox News: Fair and Balanced My Ass
Yeah, it was just an "inadvertent statement". He never meant to criticize Fox News. How in the world could anyone have ever gotten that idea?

After not criticizing Fox News, Mr Ostroy turns to "despicable blatant liar" Sean Hannity:
[Hannity] said that Obama"said tonight that insurance company executives are bad people!" " But if his viewers had actually seen the speech, they'd know what the president actually said: "Insurance executives don't treat their customers badly because they're bad people; they do it because it's profitable."
Uh-oh. Mr Ostroy, are you still claiming that FNC (which as we know did carry the speech) somehow didn't carry it? Or is that just another "inadvertent statement"? As for Hannity's "despicable lie", we'll take Mr Ostroy's point that Hannity's statement was not an accurate quote. But then, maybe, possibly that was Hannity's opinion. Perhaps Sean believes if you accuse someone of allowing people to die just to increase your profits, you just might be implying that they are bad people. It would be as if we were to say: "Andy Ostroy doesn't smear Fox News with falsehoods because he's a lying propagandist. He does it because he's a sloppy, ignorant writer eager to please the haters at the Huffington Post." Not that there's anything wrong with that...

We might point to one of Andy's FNC screengrabs: the one showing a chyron about Scooter Libby being found innocent on one count. Posted as some sort of "evidence" of Fox News bias. But as anyone who actually watched the coverage that day knows, the chyron scrolled through each and every count of the verdict, one after another, including the 'guilty' ones. Hey Andy, why did you cherry-pick the one not-guilty chyron and present it without any of the others? Now we're not saying you did something so dishonest because you're a lying propagandist. You did it because the truth doesn't matter when Fox haters want to smear FNC.

But back to Hannity. Quoting again from Mr Ostroy:
But if his viewers had actually seen the speech, they'd know what the president actually said... But I suppose the truth doesn't matter when you're the unfair and unbalanced network.
Could there be another "inadvertent statement" here? Well, let's do one of those things that seem to be anathema to HuffPo bloggers. Let's check the facts. It's not hard to do. Just watch the video, or read the transcript, and you'll find this is what actually happened:
HANNITY:And he had a very different tone on Monday, but when he said tonight that insurance executives are bad people, it took me back because it was so harsh and I think unfair, but it's part of their polling. Let's roll this tape and I want to get your reaction to it.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: Without competition, the price of insurance goes up and quality goes down. And it makes it easier for insurance companies to treat their customers badly by cherry picking the healthiest individuals and trying to drop the sickest by overcharging small businesses who have no leverage, and by jacking up rates. Insurance executives don't do this because they're bad people, they do it because it's profitable.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: What did you think?
But...but...but...Andy Ostroy and the Huffingon Post said Hannity's viewers didn't hear what the President said. And yet the transcript, and the video, clearly show that Hannity played that video clip immediately after making his statement! Why does Mr Ostroy insist otherwise? Is this a "despicable, blatant lie" on his part? Well, let's be clear. We're not saying that Andy Ostroy lied about what Fox aired because he's a lying propagandist. No, it's just because he spouted off about a broadcast that he obviously never even saw, and didn't even take five minutes to fact check his falsehoods. After all, when it comes to attacking Fox News, even the most elementary rules of journalism and reportage go out the window.

As of today Mr Ostroy's article still claims that Hannity's audience didn't see the President make that statement, even though Hannity went out of his way to re-play it to make sure his viewers did see it. Ostroy's post can be found both at the Huffington Post and at the Ostroy Report.

Barking Up the Wrong Tree:
As much fun as it is dealing with Mr Ostroy's low-hanging fruit, there is other news in the Fox haters echo chamber. For reasons of space we won't delve into Amy Goodman's lie that Glenn Beck only began criticisms of Van Jones after the boycott launched (easily disproven) and move straight to the dog pound. This week reminded us of just how far out on that limb the newshounds will go to smear FNC. Sort of like when they posted articles attacking "racist" Megyn Kelly for her preposterous notion that the case against Duke LaCrosse players was weak. How'd that work out for them?

Now they've upped their parroting from other sites to concoct three articles in a row about the ACORN prostitution scandal. But despite the disturbing, possibly illegal content of the undercover videos, the newpoodles had bigger fish to fry. First comes Priscilla, who attacks: 1. Andrew Brietbart, 2. James O'Keefe, 3. Lila Rose. No, #3 had nothing to do with the ACORN videos, but when you want to change the subject, you may have to digress a bit. Oh and of course Fox is attacked for showing the video. But that's it.

Next: Ellen Brodsky. Her incisive report attacked: 1. Glenn Beck, 2. Sean Hannity, 3. James O'Keefe. But what did she say about what was going on in those videos? Um, nothing.

Newspooch report #3 was Brodsky again. This time, using a headline that parroted language from Media Matters, she attacked: 1. Fox News, 2. James O'Keefe, 3 Glenn Beck, 4. Michael Flynn, 5. Sean Hannity. As for what the ACORN people were doing in those videos? Not one word of criticism.

Beyond the biased bassets, the kennel-dwellers who post on the comments are even more amusing. Didn't you realize the video was faked?
  • The entire video is predicated on the basis the two ACORN workers are talking about and are aware they are talking about and giving advise to a pimp and his prostitute... HA, HA, HA, LOL, it is a HOAX (or really bad attempt at a smear).
Is Beck running with this?
    Fred Sanders
  • Does that EVER happen? Who talks to complete strangers in an office about this kind of thing? How badly does the movie plot have to suck before you start saying, "Do these people think we're idiots?" ;>))
    Abby
It was just moments later than the ACORN workers in the "fake" video were fired.

The latest screed on the ACORN videos comes from our pal, accused plagiarist Julie Driscoll:
Hannah Giles, seemingly dumb as a post and pretty as a picture
Driscoll attacks: 1. Bill O'Reilly, 2. Glenn Beck, 3. Hannah Giles, 4. Jason Mattera, 5. James O'Keefe, 6. Lila Rose (her again!). Then Julie claims:
It's rather noteworthy that CNN reported that the pair of supersleuths tried the same game at other ACORN offices, in New York, Philadelphia, and Los Angeles, and failed.
Once again Julie isn't telling the truth. CNN reported a claim made by ACORN's PR flack. CNN never reported that it was true, only that the PR man said it. The same PR man who called the videos "false and defamatory" just hours before the ACORN workers were fired!

In fact, the PR flack's tri-city claim appears itself to be a lie. There is no evidence that O'Keefe and Giles went to any of those cities, let alone entered ACORN offices there. In fact, ACORN itself is now claiming it was Fox News who came to those offices. So the claim by Julie D and Ellen that O'Keefe and Giles were hop-scotching around the country, "failing" at their attempts and getting kicked out, before they settled in Baltimore and DC is dubious at best.

Missing in all of this is the latest turn in the ACORN business. The mutts have been blasting Fox News for daring to report that there may be integrity issues with ACORN's census involvement. Of course the bowsers dismissed any such notions:
  • Incidentally, the Census Bureau defended ACORN, with Bureau spokesman Stephen Buckner telling Fox News, "The Census (Bureau) is a nonpartisan, non-political agency and we're very dedicated to an accurate account . . . We have a lot of quality controls in place to keep any kind of systemic error or fraudulent behavior to affect the counts."
  • Fox’s Megyn Kelly provided a platform which was a two-fer in that it provided the requiste ACORN bashing and fear of the census...
  • In reality, as the Census Bureau told Think Progress, ACORN will not have any role in collecting Census responses. ACORN is simply one of thousands of partners who have agreed to help promote the fact that the Census bureau will soon have many job opening [sic]
  • Today's crop of race baiting articles on Fox Nation is sure to bring out the Wallace wannabees from under the rocks where they have been lurking... the fourth lede article is titled “Explosive Documents! Dangerous ACORN Census Partnership Revealed.”
  • Okay, so it's a recession, and somebody is going to get these Census jobs, right? Kelner failed to clarify why, in terms of recessionary jobs, it's any different if ACORN provides the workers or if the Census Department hires them directly.
On Friday the census department announced it was cutting all ties with ACORN. To put it another way: newshounds wrong, Fox News correct.

Finally, our favorite comment on this matter. After watching the tape of ACORN attempting to facilitate the setting up of a brothel for a crew of underage girls illegally smuggled into the country, along with instruction on how to hide it from the IRS, kennel-dweller BenM summed it up this way:
  • I saw this on the Glenn Beck show, and the "Gotcha!" failed even on its own terms. Even though the two workers went along with the scam, you could tell throughout that they were only trying to help!
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Ashley
Great information Johnny.  
 
So, the hounds are happy that Acorn was trying to help people with cheating the IRS and making it easier to employ underage sex slaves.
 
Simply hysterical. I'm still laughing over the recent FHWiR article about Tony Snow and Ellen trying to rebut what you had said about moderation. Ellen goes on to whine that you were wrong because they didn't have moderation ability at that time to moderate the Snow thread and that they were covering moderation for another hound who managed the Snow thread but was on vacation.
 
They didn't have moderation but they did have moderation. That was Ellen's defense.
 
Pathetic.
September 12, 2009, 4:41:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
BEST FHWIR ever, Johnny!
September 12, 2009, 5:50:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Johnny, this only validates how utterly ignorant the Heinous Hens of Houndland really are.
 
If they actually had to make a living in journalism in today's environment they would be standing in line at the homeless shelter.
 
Well, done.
 
Now, let's hear the rebuttal from the losers. I'm guessing there will be an inane comment from little johnt at any moment.
September 12, 2009, 6:02:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Well, Blackfon, I love the fact that to our NH friends, Acorn workers giving "community advice" on how to get govt funds for a prostitution ring is merely a couple of bad apples and representative of nothing apropo to that organization.
 
THAT standard just says it all.
September 12, 2009, 6:36:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"BEST FHWIR ever, Johnny!"
 
Thank you, Cece. I am tempted to make you CotD for that, but it would seem just a mite self-serving!
September 12, 2009, 6:39:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Now, Johnny, I'm not the judgmental type. Go ahead, do yourself a favor...make me CotD...
September 12, 2009, 8:18:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
So sayeth the snake unto Adam.  
 
This FHWiR was a pleasure to read, johnny. Nicely written and the sarcasm is hilarious.
September 12, 2009, 9:20:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
I did a doubletake when I read this sentence from First comes Priscilla:
 
http://www.newshounds.us/2009/09/10/fox_news_pimpin_for_andrew_breitbart.php
 
"But Fox does heart its fellow traveller Andrew Breitbart and it was "might white" of them, "
 
I must say I have not heard, much less read, this particular little nasty racist expression in decades.
 
Does Priscilla protest too much?
September 12, 2009, 9:52:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
You need to read or reread Genesis, FF.
September 12, 2009, 9:58:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Grammie,
 
I went over to NH after Johnny's FHWIR because I had a hard time believing that someone could hate political opponents so much that THEY were more pernicious to them than people who would suborn prostituting 13 year olds.
 
Well, they do. They could care less about about the facts of what these ACORN members were doing.  
 
And if THAT mentality isn't astounding enough, it's replete with race baiting and slanderous charges of racism, so casually made that you wonder if a rational or stable thought even enters their minds.
September 12, 2009, 10:10:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
I didnt see it mentioned, but Olby named Hannity "winner" for "WPITW" about Obama speech. So Olbermann and Andy lied
September 12, 2009, 10:18:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Cecelia | 09.12.09 - 10:03 pm | #
 
I wasn't going to call J$ Eve CC. Joke fail...
 
I flipped over to CNN a few minutes ago. The host was aghast that the protesters in DC compared Obama to Hitler. They weren't so amazed when democrat protesters compared Bush to Hitler on a daily basis. I wonder why?
September 12, 2009, 10:20:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
I just got finished reading/skimming the comments also. Johnny serves us such a groaning table of delights every weekend it takes a while to wend my way thru the whole offering, savoring each morsel. :+:  
 
It would be impossible to just pick the 4 or 5 worst comments b/c there are so many.
 
I did notice one thing, though, by the time I got to the last of the trifecta there were quite a few new names criticizing the curs for their total refusal to condemn any of what happened at Acorn. I've never seen so much dissent there, not by a long shot.
September 12, 2009, 10:32:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
You could have called me Eve to his Adam.  
 
In fact, Eve IS my real life nickname.
September 12, 2009, 10:40:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Actually, there was that now fired CNN reporter who did term a Bush effigy with horns and a Hitler mustache a Bush "look alike".
 
And then there was the producer who accused U.S. soldiers of targeting reporters.
 
But protesters insulting Pres. Obama... horrors...and blasphemy...
September 12, 2009, 10:45:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Johnny, I really enjoyed your link to James O'Keefe piece "
 
As usual, I read thru some of the comments. I think Doc Farmer should get the CoTD award at Big Government for this:
 
Just remember this motto: Veni, Vidi, Spurius Brutus Deitrum Cowi.  
 
I Came, I Saw, I Tore The Thick Bastards Limb From Limb. :lol:
September 12, 2009, 10:45:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
That last comment by BenM is my absolute favorite this week.
 
"I saw this on the Glenn Beck show, and the "Gotcha!" failed even on its own terms. Even though the two workers went along with the scam, you could tell throughout that they were only trying to help!"
 
Perhaps you could start a Stupid Dog Trick of the Week Award to give the mangiest cur a special bone to reward all their hard work.
 
After all, it can't be easy to be that stupid.
September 12, 2009, 11:11:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply


ramjet
Johnny,
 
I must take exception to your characterization as disingenuous of Andy Ostroy's excuse that his "inadvertent statement" about Fox News was merely an "unintentional error".  
 
Taken from my personal experience, everytime I've made a completer and utter ass of myself, it has always been a case of an "inadvertent statement" that was an "unintentional error".  
 
Frankly, I think you're being much too hard on Mr. Ostrich....ummmm, Mr. Ostracize....uhhhh, would you believe Mr. Osprey?
September 12, 2009, 11:24:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Wasn't the Osprey some high-tech military plane or something? I remember a JAG episode about it.
September 12, 2009, 11:26:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply


ramjet
The aircraft was named after the bird, a raptor that has the ability to hover over lakes while looking for its prey, fresh water fish.
http://www.thewildbird.net/shop/images/Osprey.jpg
 
The Bell-Boeing V-22 Osprey is a multi-mission, military, tiltrotor aircraft with both a vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) and short takeoff and landing (STOL) capability. (or vstol) Hey! Where have I seen that before?
September 12, 2009, 11:57:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Damail
Yeah, but I thought it was one of those weapons systems that the Pentagon didn't even want but were forced to take because some fat cat politician had political clout.
September 13, 2009, 12:08:33 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
After all, it can't be easy to be that stupid.
Grammie | 09.12.09 - 11:16 pm | #  
 
Sure it can. Just ask little johnt. He was born stupid. He lives stupid and he will die stupid.
September 13, 2009, 8:25:28 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
I would call john t more dishonest, complacent with lies and smears and ready to parrot them on command.  
 
I'm not disagreeing with your comment Blackflon, I'm appending to it.
September 13, 2009, 12:02:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Pat Pomeroy
I usually only check in with this site when I have had some direct, recent experience with cable "news" in the States, and I have to say that there seems to be an inordinate amount of time, space and prose devoted to another website. That doesn't seem to me to be all that sensible or interesting, but I suppose there must be some parochial interest in it or the four or five of you wouldn't be so obssesed with this.
September 13, 2009, 1:33:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Um, yeah, right, whatever.
September 13, 2009, 1:45:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Um, yeah, right, whatever.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 09.13.09 - 1:50 pm | #  
 
hahahahaha!
September 13, 2009, 5:04:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Hey, guys, I know what we can call ourselves.
 
The Gang of Four or sometimes The Gang of Five.
 
That ought to make PP feel at home.
September 14, 2009, 1:00:46 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Oneforetheroad
"Grammie,
 
I went over to NH after Johnny's FHWIR because I had a hard time believing that someone could hate political opponents so much that THEY were more pernicious to them than people who would suborn prostituting 13 year olds.
 
Well, they do. They could care less about about the facts of what these ACORN members were doing.  
 
And if THAT mentality isn't astounding enough, it's replete with race baiting and slanderous charges of racism, so casually made that you wonder if a rational or stable thought even enters their minds.
Cecelia | 09.12.09 - 10:15 pm '
 
What does this have to do with cable news?
 
johnny, you corrected me (and rightly so) when I brought up a subject that wasn't concerned with Cable News.
 
Why is Cecilia aloud to talk about NewsHounds. As far as I know, News Hounds is not Cable News.
 
But, You do own this site so whatever you say goes. I certainly understand that.::
September 15, 2009, 12:06:05 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Any further inquiries about moderation policies should be taken to email. Thank you so much.
September 15, 2009, 12:08:05 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
"Why is Cecilia aloud to talk about NewsHounds."
 
Because Johnny loves me best!
September 15, 2009, 12:21:37 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Oneforetheroad
I got it johnny.
I was in the Navy. I unerstand.
 


Edited By Siteowner
September 15, 2009, 12:25:10 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
One more comment like the one I had to edit and you will unerstand even better. Friendly warning.
September 15, 2009, 12:31:45 AM EDT – Like – Reply