May 142015
 
  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I do so enjoy the guts of these Quinnipiac polls.

    First: It’s pretty obvious that local television news is far more trusted than anything on national broadcast or cable news.

    Second: A part of the distrust of national broadcast and cable news is that people like Williams and O’Reilly fall so far short of the standard of Cronkite.

    Third: In the trust a great deal category, FOX and CNN are now at 20% and 18% respectively. The margin of error is 2.7%. That means that the results could just as easily be FOX at 17.3% and CNN at 20.7%. In any event, it is a statistical tie.

    Fourth: When you add trust a great deal and trust somewhat, FOX is 55% and CNN is 61%, well outside the margin of error, and MSNBC is at 52% within the margin or error with FOX.

    Fifth: FOX, as always, “leads” in the not trusted at all category at 26%compared to 16% for CNN and 24% for MSNBC. When you aggregate trusted not at all and trusted not so much, FOX and MSNBC are at 40% and CNN is at 34%.

    If I were working for CNN, I could easily spin this as a pretty solid win for the network.

    • ramjet

      Cronkite was the most trusted, but because of that elevated status he let down his viewers tremendously, though they were unaware.

      • The Real Royal Emperor

        When I was growing up in Austin, we had only one television station, Lady Bird Johnson’s KTBC, Channel 7. It was not an affiliate of any single network. The evening news programs were only 15 minutes. We got Cronkite at 17:30 Hours and Huntley/Brinkley at 17:45. A most agreeable arrangement.

    • Cecelia

      In the trust poll you have FNC dominating in every demographic but women (where it is evenly split) and 18-34 year olds.

      I suggest that the discrepancy lies in the formulation of “Trust a great deal” and “Trust somewhat”.

      The first is a formulation that seasoned adults are loath to claim about any institution save their family or local church, and the latter is head-scratchingly contradictory.

  • Larry Kelly

    Sounds like the Ed Schultz trial might get some decent rating. Funny stuff.

  • Larry Kelly

    A poll conducted by Quinnipiac University has revealed the most trusted network and cable news channels in the United States. Fox News came first, trusted by 29 percent of respondents, a considerable distance ahead of CNN’s 22 percent.
    Further, 29% of liberals have wet their pants while fuming about the poll.

    • The Real Royal Emperor

      How does CNN fare in the least trusted measure, Larry?

  • Michael T

    Well, well. The Seymour Hersh revelations have certainly left a trail of juicy tidbits since KT McFarland talked about it on Monday.

    Mr. Hersh asserts that it was a a retired Pakistani senior intelligence officer who revealed Osama bin Laden’s hideout — and that the premise of the movie “Zero Dark Thirty” was a fabrication and President Obama is a “liar.”

    May 11th
    Fox News – KT McFarland

    “Report: Obama lied about Pakistan’s role in Bin Laden raid”

    May 11th
    Mediaite
    “Hersh Battles CNN’s Cuomo: ‘I’m Not Out on a Limb’ on bin Laden Story”

    May 12th
    Real Clear Politics
    “Seymour Hersh: Yes, The Pakistani Government Knew bin Laden’s Location”

    May 13th
    Slate
    “I Am Not Backing Off Anything I Said”

    May 14th
    Mediaite
    “Seymour Hersh Does Not Care for This ‘Andrea Mitchell’ Person”

    Seymour Hersh has a long distinguished career. But that doesn’t make him infallible. I’m on the fence on this one.

    • The Real Royal Emperor

      This is a complex issue, isn’t it? So much of his work has been ground-breaking. Then we started getting weird conspiracy theories about Opus Dei essentially running US special services and Iranian terrorists being trained in Nevada. I’m ambivalent.

    • Larry Kelly

      I think I the last couple years, he has seen sharks and jumped them.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Thanks for the Faulkner/Paley link. I think when she breaks out from the FOX line, which she does from time-to-time, she can be good. Very good. As to content …. But also as to delivery …. She has a good, well-modulated voice, and she is not given to gasps and cries or to facial expressions of outrage. I think she could mainstream it some day soon. One of the broadcast anchors, MTP, This Week …. I could even see her doing BBC America.

    • Cecelia

      For BBC America she’d need dreadlocks and a penchant for saying “inclusive” when she meant selective and Afrocentric.

      • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

        I can just see her on the Beeb wearing her tampon earrings.

        • The Real Royal Emperor

          Please name a single such stunt a BBC reporter or anchor has pulled on the air. Just one.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            I was replying to Cecelia and referenced the fool wearing them on MSNBC. I was saying that along with Cecelia’ suggestions, she should wear them.

      • The Real Royal Emperor

        So you’re saying Black reporters and anchors are fine as long as they follow an African-American tradition, but Jamaican and Island Black reporters and anchors are not. Quite advanced thinking.

        • Cecelia

          No, I’m describing most of the black reporters I’ve watched on BBCA, Einstein.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            What are their names?

          • Cecelia

            I don’t know their names. I was making a quip about what I had seen.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            Thank you for your candor.

            BBC America has a bit of an identity crisis. The powers that be can’t decide if it is a news station for Americans, if it is a news station for Brits living in America, or if it is a laboratory for developing US news for replay on other BBC companies. I am told it aspires to be a station for Americans and simultaneously a laboratory. That seems prudent to me. If so, Faulkner would be a great addition, and it would be a well-deserved, prestigious position for he. Aspirations aside, at the moment programming is far more tailored to Brits, and the talent is largely British. If the talent is British and the talent includes Blacks, then a good portion of that talent would be, by definition, Jamaican and Island, with a smattering of South African. That is why I find your dreadlocks reference troubling. Were it other people posting this, my concern would be racism, but I don’t attribute that to you. Just a flippant, poor choice of words. Something we all do.

          • Cecelia

            Dreadlocks are primarily a West Indies tradition.

            You don’t have to thank me for my candor. I don’t roll with ulterior motives and cards up my sleeve.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            Yes, they are, and the West Indies team buried England in Cricket by 5 wickets. I think my point well-taken.

          • Cecelia

            Let me thank you for a fatuous reply avoiding an admission that you know nothing about the culture behind dreadlocks.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            I do know that Britain is populated by a good number of these people with dreadlocks and a most remarkable command of the English language, something that seems to have escaped you despite my most gallant efforts.

          • Cecelia

            Since English is a part of their native culture and tradition, I think you are exhibiting a condescension and ethnic arrogance toward this group that is utterly cringe worthy.

            It would be shocking if we weren’t aware that such an attitude is your nature.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            In my experience, the highest quality street English in the world is Pakistanis, Jamaicans and West Indians in Britain. That is a great compliment. If anything my condescension would seem to be implicit and directed at my fellow countrymen and women who seem to think that a great command of English vocabulary, grammar and syntax is a character flaw. But, I understand what is going on here this morning, and I’ll simply wish you a grand and glorious day. I don’t wish to bore others with this personal tête-à-tête largely unrelated to cable news.

          • Cecelia

            I suggest that you save the admonition to appreciate the wonderful English speaking abilities of people of color for whom English is a native language, for folks who are being dismissive of such considerations.

            That could make you sound less of a condescending, elitist white supremist, but I doubt it.

          • Michael T

            Speaking of the Brits, did you see The Daily Show’s humorous take on the differences between the wedge issues in the United States and those in Great Britain? (NSFW — language)

            http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/xtu0e5/uncensored—britain-s-non-issues

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            Indeed, I did. I always enjoy reflecting on which of our two great nations is on the leading edge of social, legal and political evolution. At the moment, the Brits may have a bit of an edge.

  • Re: “Kirell: The Greg Gutfeld Show dry to debut Sunday, May 31″: Mediaite click bait at this link includes Jon Stewart’s latest round of Fox bashing and a leftist college student confronting Jeb Bush.

    • Homemaker

      Would Hilary let a “rightist college student” get close enough to confront her? Don’t hold your breath!

      • I should clarify. It wasn’t a physical confrontation. It was an aggressive verbal confrontation during a town hall meeting.

      • The Real Royal Emperor

        http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-heckled-immigration-activists

        I don’t know whether they are rightist or not, and neither do you.

        • Cecelia

          But you know Kristen Powers isn’t a liberal because she works for Fox and critiques the left.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            No, Cecelia, she isn’t a liberal because she is a conservative. He unfortunate choice of employment has nothing to do with her ideology.

          • Cecelia

            Bunk. She has both liberal and conservative positions, but more liberal than not.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            What are some of her liberal positions that she has expressed on FOX?

          • Cecelia

            She’s pro-immigration amnesty, pro gay marriage, pro- closing Gitmo, pro higher taxes on the wealthy and confiscatory estate taxes, pro green issues…

            She would like trimester restrictions on abortion and she would like a higher regard for speech on the left, rather than the routine ostracizing of anyone who doesn’t follow a particular meme.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            “pro-immigration amnesty, pro gay marriage, pro- closing Gitmo, pro
            higher taxes on the wealthy and confiscatory estate taxes, pro green
            issues ….”

            Aren’t such issues RINOesque, and aren’t Republican centrists often lambasted for the same?

            No, I am afraid, Cecelia that we have to say she ticks right-of-center which accounts for her prospering at FOX. You assume I am making that a condemnation. In the contrary, Powers is right-of-center Democrat, if in fact she is a Democrat at all, in the Bill and Hillary Clinton mode. She is probably as much a Democrat as could be tolerated on the FOX programming. Nothing more, nothing less.

          • Cecelia

            No, I’m afraid we don’t have to conclude that she’s not liberal based upon the fact that some Republicans hold these same positions (and are called RINOs because these stands don’t reflex conservatism).

            We don’t have to say she isn’t liberal because she’s not as liberal as you.

            Your writing another paragraph arguing nothing more than that won’t make it so either.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            Your problem is that you seem to believe there is a liberal orthodoxy. There is not. Liberalism is the antithesis of orthodoxy. There is most assuredly a conservative orthodoxy, but there are surprisingly few orthodox conservatives. Why? I suspect because it has never proven to be an ideology that translates into workable governance. And, because it defines the American Experience as something that happened in the past, is locked in stone and is merely now an admonition of all that we are doing wrong. If you have read Powers, and I suspect you have not, you know she has wandered into a religious orthodoxy that is informing her political ideology and, perhaps dictating it. In my view, that makes her perhaps the most conservative person at FOX and one of the least hypocritical at FOX.

          • Cecelia

            No, my problem is that after you asked for specific positions to indicate liberalism, you then dismissed them with the inexplicable line that this proves nothing since RINOs and the Clintons hold or have held these positions too.

            Not content with that laughable fatuousness, you are now attempting to disappear all concrete markers into a sea of blather about liberalism having no orthodoxy (while simultaneously setting up one concerning the inspiration and motivation for the liberal impulse).

            This isn’t discussion, it’s you trying to be cute.

            You are dismissed.

        • Homemaker

          So…you call some heckling from a few people in a large audience while Hilary was giving a speech before she was a declared candidate vs a young girl who got within 3 feet of Jeb and in his face anywhere near the same? Golly, you are an apologist for Hilary. Doesn’t surprise me.

      • Marty

        Are you referring to the confrontation Jeb Bush had with the college student? The one Mike referred to? I believe that’s the one. I think you answered your own question.

        • I wouldn’t have known about it if I didn’t look at the top or right sides of the page. That’s where Mediaite puts their click bait.

          • Marty

            Saw it on tee vee this morning.

          • All I saw on FNC before noon was Larry Sabato on Happening Now.

          • Marty

            Larry Sabato would be a good guest on OutNumbered. I would watch.

    • J$ addressed Stewart’s bashing on Twitter. I retweeted.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Gutfield or Last Tango in Halifax and the Father Brown Mysteries? Not a difficult choice. Tango and Father for sure!

  • Lurker

    Molly Henneberg left FOX News?

    • Marty

      Last I heard she had decided to work part time. She wanted to stay home and raise her daughter.

      • Just like Jane Skinner.

        • Marty

          Skinny!

          • She’s married to Goody, aka Roger Goodell.

          • Marty

            Right. TWPITW!

          • These days, the segment is WPitSW.

        • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

          Not really, Mike. Jane Skinner left. Molly still is on occasionally, usually on the weekend.

          • Oh. If I watched on the weekend, outside of MediaBuzz, I would have known that. I regret the error.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            No need to apologize. I am usually gone until past noon, but try to catch Julie Banderas.

          • Marty

            Hakuna Matata!
            You didn’t call anyone bad names.

          • Martha

            I believe Jane Skinner didn’t leave Fox until her Twins were about 9 years old…and her husband Roger Goodell was Commissioner of the NFL.
            Her financial future was secure before she became a full time mother.
            And…that’s a fact nor a criticism. I liked Jane Skinner , and I was a part time working mother myself.

          • Marty

            That’s correct- about her leaving when her twins were older. She was on with Shep and he would call her Skinny. She used to bake him cookies. I enjoyed those good-natured segments.

          • So, that’s where you got that nickname from. It’s like “Bill!…O’Reilly!”

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            I enjoyed the visits to “Skinnerville.” Roger did good for himself.

          • That’s true, Martha.

            I still like her and miss her presence.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            She was like Linda Vester. Linda and her husband both came from money, and she decided to be a full time mother.

      • Cecelia

        Good for her.

        • Marty

          Molly was working full-time for a few years after having her baby. She felt if she spent more time with her daughter, the child would do better socially and in school. That Molly could more closely monitor the child’s development.

          • Cecelia

            And see her first step.

  • Today’s most popular links:
    5 Jenna Lee
    4 debut Sunday May 31
    3 Kristin Fisher
    2 most trusted name
    And the most popular link in today’s links…
    1 Attorney trips up Ed Schultz.

    • Marty

      Poor Eddie in my best Topo Gigio voice.

  • Uh-oh. There was a blatant jump cut during the Tavis Smiley segment. After he said in a few sentences that racism and discrimination are real, the camera angle changed in mid-sentence and Bill went on to the next topic.