Jun 052015
 
  • Larry Kelly

    It’s quite possible the left wingers have been so over the top in their Duggar-hate, the sympathy for the family may boost them back. Who knows, they might get a TV show. “Eighteen Kids and a Black Sheep Brought Back in the Fold”.

    • The Real Royal Emperor

      So far, Megyn Kelly hasn’t been able to sell the old , “But, but, what about the records ….” diversion. And, it’s clearer every hour that she doesn’t have the Hannitization power.

    • Cecelia

      I don’t have a lot of sympathy for the Duggar parents. I feel it for the girls and for Josh to the extent that he asked for help and in return seems to have gotten a rainbow skittles sort of theology.

      • Larry Kelly

        I expect to hear more from the girls of how they have been used as pawns in the faux outrage of royal liberal jackasses.

        • Marty

          Tonight. Nine sharp. Kelly File.
          Be there or be square.

          • gcblues

            i have not watched a single clip or read a single column on the duggers. i elide over the posts, especially the stupid dissertations that have never received an up due to their irrelevance. i saw the “caitlyn” picture on various web sites. i found out yesterday it is a senile old guy, never knew thing one about it. the point is, one does not have to nose around in the sewer. just click. zap, no mas existe.
            i do however follow news. the market is scary. too much depends on government and the fed. Perry looked good yesterday meaning there is a plethora of choice for the next president which will be a repub. the failures of high crime, education, and family are the functional civil rights issues and that news counts. plenty of meat, avoid the silly cotton candy payasos and their dissertations …..oops see, shoulda just read the first line.

          • Larry Kelly

            No wonder you don’t like a troll soiling the carpet.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            What “news” do you follow?

          • gcblues
          • Marty

            Never watched the Dugger tv show. Did watch MK’s interview.
            No Kardahian garbage or anything like that.

          • gcblues

            you make me feel lucky.

          • Marty

            Can’t think why.

          • gcblues

            i skipped the interview too.

        • The Real Royal Emperor

          Of course. We already know they have been coached to say just that sort of thing by their parents. Anything and everything to deflect from their terrible parenting.

          • Larry Kelly

            EXHIBIT [A]

          • Marty

            Did you KNOW the kids were coached? I don’t KNOW that they’ve been coached. Making wild conjectures must be a gift that comes with being a royal.

          • Larry Kelly

            Again, it’s just trolling. All the sincerity of a crocodile.

          • Cecelia

            This family is going on a list he has of conservatives who have been involved in sexual indiscretions or sex crimes, to be pulled out for the benefit of any half-wit Mediate poster who makes an Anthony Weiner reference.

            Yes, this is more fodder than deep feeling.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            In his own way, he’s screwier than Joe Remi. And that’s pretty damn screwy.

          • Marty

            I could use some of that fodder in my garden.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            Perhaps you should raise that issue with the family’s (and Mike Huckabee’s) media consultant, Chad Gallagher.

          • Marty

            Perhaps you should tell someone who cares.
            Perhaps you remember you were never going to respond to me again and that I should do the same. I say Good-by to you SIR. Good day.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            Yikes. Sorry about that. A bit impulsive. Thanks for the reminder.

          • Cecelia

            just what these young women needed.

            More delegitimization and objectifying.

          • Marty

            I give them kudos for being willing to come forward and speak. It’s like having everyone talking about you in front of your face and not being allowed to counter what they say who and know more than all the jabberwockies put together. It’s their life and their family everyone is going on about. I doubt anyone forced them to speak. Everyone needs to lay off these girls/women.

          • Cecelia

            I give them the dignity of considering them to be young adults who are well able to make their own decisions, rather than being puppets to their parents.

            Talk about insulting.

          • Marty

            Puppets. God. More than insulting. Such an attitude makes me sick. To the next person who says that here, I’ll reply in advance. STUFF IT.

          • Michael T

            As someone who defended Michelle’s and Jim Bob’s performance during the interview, I am hardly a hater.

            But having just read the Tuesday web posting by In Touch Weekly where the victims names are redacted I am left wondering would over 3% of the country even know who the victim’s names were had they not decided to speak to Megyn? [head scratch]

            The argument was made by Megyn that you could deduce the redacted sisters’ names from the published Police Report. But back to my 3% number, does anyone really think over 3% of the visitors to the In Touch Weekly website bothered to take that step?

            Apparently there are some who blame the magazine for the wide dissemination of the sister’s names. I hate tabloids, but I must be missing something — because I just don’t get it.

            I would have advised the two sisters to remain silent. Although I can understand their apparent desire to defend Josh. But to blame the magazine as their parents appeared to do seems like a stretch,

          • Marty

            You make good points. Apparently the young women felt the need to speak out. That’s all I was saying.
            Hater? You? Hardly.

          • Homemaker

            Remember Michael this happened over 10 years ago and so to do the math it would be fairly easy to figure out which sisters were involved. Not all 19 children were born then so your choices were not as numerous either.

      • The Real Royal Emperor

        That “rainbow skittles sort of theology” is perhaps the best tailored and most incisive line I have read in some time. If you are a faithful person who happens to be a parent one of the more difficult tasks is religious and ethical training and exposure. I, of course, wanted my children to be RC, but I didn’t want to force that on them. I wanted to prepare them to make a decision, an informed decision with which they are comfortable. As it turns out, I’ve ended up with an Anglican (quasi-RC) and an RC (perhaps largely because her spouse is RC and they live in a heavily RC region). I’m comfortable with that. My sympathy for the Duggars is because they elected a path for religious and ethical training which seems to have had disastrous consequences. My sympathy for the girls is without limit. For Josh, he had a great deal to overcome and he didn’t. I’d like to think he might summon up the strength to break with his parents, at least for a time. He needs far more than they are capable of giving him.

        Again, a great phrase. Thanks.

        • Cecelia

          The Rainbow Skittles thing is an expression my husband uses for feel-good positive affirmation psychological exercises to profound loss, suffering, and personal failings.

  • Larry Kelly

    The liberal media really want the two Duggar girls to understand they are not okay, that they had been destroyed but just didn’t know it. The media crusaders want them properly traumatized for their own good. Everybody get out their anatomically correct puppets. http://tmz.me/ale38t1

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      The Left always knows what’s best for everyone else. On every issue, get in line or face the consequences of their wrath.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    It seems to me to be one thing that Megyn Kelly has gone all Nancy Grace. I never considered her a journalist anyway. When a media personality’s entire shtick is perpetual outrage, he or she is more of a shock jock. It’s quite another thing for Howard Kurtz to bless this hideous transformation. Well, they seem to have found a new low for cable news.

    • Cecelia

      As usual, you’re outraged.

      • gcblues

        funny she/he likes BC and he is a sexual predator.

        • The Real Royal Emperor

          To the extent one who engages in consensual sex with another adult is a predator, you are correct.

        • Larry Kelly

          “Nice to meet you Paula. Want to see something.”

          “Sorry about the dead husband thing, can I hold that for a sec,”

          “Where did I put my cigar?”

          • gcblues

            Juanita Broderick.

          • gcblues

            Katherine Wiley

      • The Real Royal Emperor

        Outrage? Not really. There are relatively very few things of sufficient importance to get outraged. Certainly not Kelly and Kurtz.

      • Marty

        So much outrage. So little time.

      • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

        It’s Clucker’s usual obsession with Megyn Kelly.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    From Larry O., via Variety:

    “The Duggar family has a new defense lawyer: Megyn Kelly.”

    http://variety.com/2015/tv/columns/duggars-megyn-kelly-josh-duggar-molestation-19-kids-1201512012/

    • Cecelia

      The quote you reference from MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell was the most critical element in a modulated fair piece by Variety’s Brian Lowry.

      • Bob Somerby has catalogued O’Donnell’s Niagara of lies in his coverage of Trayvon Martin etc. You’ll understand if I don’t respect the dishonest smears of a discredited Hollywood fiction writer.

        Other than that, he’s a great guy.

        • Cecelia

          Somerby is the right stuff. That’s the bottom line. I don’t agree with much of anything that he says about the Clintons, but boy does he add a texture to their odyssey that makes me modulate and reevaluate with every word. I never miss a blog.

          Worst of the worst with ODonnell was the panel on his show averring that George Zimmerman said “coon”.

        • The Real Royal Emperor

          Did Somerby also catalog Kelly lies and distortions such as the Colorado ballot process and the FAA allowing flights over Ukraine? If not, I suppose that mean O’Donnell is a journalist and Kelly a mere opinion pundit since her lies don’t seem to matter.

        • Marty

          Liar. Great song by Three Dog Night.
          LOD could use it for his theme song.

        • Marty

          Somerby gives it to the left for doing exactly what they say the right does- engage in tribalism.

          • Cecelia

            Actually, he gives it to the left for doing exactly what HE says the right does.

            It’s a statement about the superficiality and insecurity of conservatism, that we don’t have a Somerby.

          • Marty

            Never read him that way, but ok. Meaning no conservative criticizes their own?

          • Cecelia

            That the left now acts and thinks as moronically as the right is a statement Somerby makes in almost every blog.

            No, I don’t think conservatism has anyone approaching a Bob Somerby.

    • TheMightyINB

      Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC… Megyn Kelly’s direct competitor… didn’t like the interview?!

      Well, I for one, am shocked. Never would have guessed that.

      • The Real Royal Emperor

        I’m not sure I much care who said it. If O’Reilly had said it, if Angela Merkel had said it, if Brian Bosworth said it, I would have posted it. It has a strong ring of truth to it. It captures the critical essence of the interview, or the chat up or the sit down or the conversation or whatever we are calling it.

        • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

          If Merkel read your garbage, she’d call you an AmO.

        • TheMightyINB

          Yeah, I know… it’s someone who echoed your preconceived notions, so it doesn’t matter how reliable, reasonable, or reputable the person is. It’s called being a hack.

  • Saintsfan720

    For Red Eye, seems like it came down to choice between Tom and Andy. Tom is a good pick. “Red Eye” will probably never be the “glorious mess” again of its early years but hope he can try some new things.

    • Joe Concha

      I like Tom, but personally- I would have moved heaven and earth to bring Lauren Sivan back and make her the host.

      • Marty

        Didn’t you know his eyes are so far apart that they look ready to fall off his face?
        Read that incisive, intelligent comment somewhere.
        But Lauren Sivan would be a good choice. Probably couldn’t lure her back from L.A.

      • I would move heaven and earth to get Lauren Sivan too. If it wasn’t for that restraining order.

        • gcblues

          Sofía, ¿qué dice una lechuza? who who who. ……. jijiji.
          sorry man.

      • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

        Exactly! She could’ve brought the old spark back to the show.

    • carolr527

      Tom is a good choice.

    • Michael T

      I see the same thing happening to the replacements for The Colbert Report and The Daily Show where I predict they will be fortunate to exceed 60% of their predecessor’s ratings.

      For example,
      “Wilmore’s Nightly Show First 3 Months Down Nearly 40% from Colbert”
      http://www.mediaite.com/tv/wilmores-nightly-show-first-3-months-down-nearly-40-from-colbert/

      • Larry Kelly

        Many youngsters claim they get their news and political ideas from the Comedy Central shows, so ON TOPIC bro.

  • Larry Kelly

    Duggars are now in an epic battle of the moron cosmos.
    On the right you have the goofy wing of Christanity.
    On the left you have the goofy minions of Satan.
    Release the trolls!!!

  • Larry Kelly

    Want inter-party primary debates? Naw, would be CROSSFIRE FOR DUMMIES. Me, I’m for inter-party pie fights. Sanders vs Trump might be fun.

  • Larry Kelly

    CNN alums are so “Why can’t they be like we were, perfect in every way? Oh WHAT’S the matter with CNN toooDAAYYYY!?”

  • Larry Kelly

    “Well, that did so little good, let’s bring her back in.”
    http://www.adweek.com/fishbowldc/msnbcs-rachel-racusen-rejoins-white-house/145784

  • Now that Tom Shillue is hosting Red Eye, will he be contractually disallowed from appearing with the Ragtime Gals barbershop quartet on The Tonight Show?

    • Marty

      Hi Mike. Hope you are well.

      • I’m well, but not on this site for one obvious reason.

        • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

          And that reason should not be tolerated, but despite numerous complaints, is.

          • Cecelia

            NN, if JD was a letter-of-the-law stickler just waiting to blast someone off his blog it would be more appropo that the regulars here (me included) might head to Exike Island over daily personal attacks, than the guy whose political sentiments and personality are tailor made to rub folks the wrong way.

            Count your blessings.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            His personal attacks towards Mike C., plus his use of various names in the past put him clearly in violation of the rules. It isn’t posting political views, it is trolling in every sense of the word. If Johhny wants me to leave, I will. In fact, I probably should.

          • Larry Kelly

            Not me. Just rub on some Preperation Troll and the burning itch will eventually go away.

          • gcblues

            you buy that where?

          • Cecelia

            I didn’t see any personal attacks at Mike C. I saw particular slams against OReilly and Fox which upset Mike.

            You have one guy here who wants to counter our views on Fox and personally pique us in doing it.

            That’s not a troll infestation. I get more annoyance from rude strangers in public.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Mike took it personally, and I take it personally.

          • Cecelia

            Well, taking such things personally is not the same as being personally attacked.

          • gcblues

            cc. just a thought. maybe you are more often preoccupied with how many angels are on the head of a pin than with the macro view.

          • Cecelia

            On the contrary, the macro view is that opinions on Fox News are not personal attacks even when formulated in ways sure to annoy its fans.

            It’s the other view that’s a picky one and it’s one more prone to limit speech.

          • gcblues

            it has nothing to do with fox. anyone can sense a personality that revels in the discomfort and pain pain of others. these is nothing about news in her or my comments. i admit it and and do it in fun he/she does it for the sole purpose of attention and the effect on others

          • Marty

            It’s the put-downs and the condescension.
            Holier-than-thou comments and insults. And yes, many of us reply in-kind. Myself included. Don’t talk to me like I’m stupid or a child. Don’t bully me. Reminds me of someone who use to post here who had a high-horse attitude and relished getting in people’s grill. I’m just blowing off built up steam. Wonder who is loving this the most?

          • gcblues

            she is

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            I have never lobbied a personal attack at Mike. Never.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Really? You apologized and promised him that you would never return. Then came back and doubled down on your nonsense.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            That’s a personal attack? Really? You can’t be serious.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            You promised to leave and never return. Your word is worthless. You are dismissed.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            So, you’re saying I did not personally attack Mike.

            Thank you.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            That is not what I said.

          • Homemaker

            He likes putting words in people’s mouths.

          • Cecelia

            No one wants you to leave, NN.

            Least of all me. You’re my Larry Langtry.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Thanks. However, I am going to step away for a couple of hours. I’m going to supper with an old friend.

          • Cecelia

            Lucky friend. Enjoy!

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Thank you. It was a very nice evening.

          • Larry Kelly

            I suspect Johnny knows we’re being gamed, but I prefer to think of Johhny as God and not guestion. His will will be done. $ Akbar.

          • I had to wade into the morass today if only to vote that up.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Johnny, I will no longer respond to The Annoyance, with one exception. If he tries to bring up his military service. Otherwise, he is not worth the energy and annoyance.

          • gcblues

            who who.

        • Marty

          I know. You do what’s good for you.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Kelly says: “They [Jessa and Jill Duggar] never chose to have this piece of their family story put out there,and I think they are struggling with what people are assuming about their family and about what happened to them.”

    So naturally, she interviews them on a cable news show.

    Go figure!

    • Cecelia

      Naturally she does. The implication of Kelly’s statement is that the Duggars want to counter assumptions made about them.

      There’s not a journalist out there who would not have agreed to an interview on that basis and I’d wager that they revived a ton of calls from sympathetic sounding news folks offering just that (along with the stipulation that there would be no-holes-barred questions in return).

      • The Real Royal Emperor

        I can’t say I fault Kelly for doing the interview with the parents. To be sure, none of the great legacy journalists would have come near this, but I do understand that times and tastes have changed. And I do have tremendous criticism for the way the interview was conducted, softball questions, constant appeals to emotion, no follow-up. It was shoddy even by the standards of the day. Having said that, I will note that follow-up seems a lost art.

        As I said earlier, the mere concept of the interview with Jessa and Jill is just tawdry, Nancy Grace-like.

        • The Real Royal Emperor

          I did notice that one FOX personality, Julie Roginsky, was highly critical of the parents pushing Jessa and Jill in front of the cameras. I think that is a very important point to make. While I may quibble with Kelly for conducting this interview and with FOX for airing it (as I am sure it will air), the cause of the trauma the young women may suffer is the parents, and the last clear chance to avoid any such (additional) trauma lies with the parents.

        • Cecelia

          It is uncomfortable. It is indicative of something amiss in our culture. The entire endless parade about the Duggars in all parts of the media is that.

          This was a sensitive matter/story that was blasted across the world like it was a Perez Hilton exclusive, in respectable corners of the media as well as Buzz Feed and Gawker.

          Deplore the way this has led to these girls thinking they must defend their family from people who have shown no caution in rhetorically eviscerating these folks for the sake of the daughters.

          How could they not wish to speak in the face of profoundly complex and tragic family dynamics being treated in this manner?

  • I had the wrong link plugged into ‘numbers’ for a bit but have fixed it now. Sorry about that.

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