Jun 252015
 
  • Wednesday’s numbers: Bill O’Reilly-Megyn Kelly-Bret Baier 1-2-3.
  • Mentioners mention Nomiki Konst, Julie Roginsky for the Beckel chair.
  • Bob Beckel and FNC split; Shine: he ‘took advantage‘ of our generosity.
  • The Daily Show video: talks to Jon Stewart.
  • Wemple: Roger Ailes demoted? Yeah right: Ailes wins again.  Stocks boom.
  • Roger Ailes re-signed by FNC to multi-year contract.  More.  Conjecture.
  • Schwarz: How The Five became a Fox News hit that even Jon Stewart likes.
  • Morgan: Race-obsessed US media share the blame for Charleston murders.
  • Ahiza Garza jumps from Talking Points Memo to CNN.  Drew Griffin awarded.
  • Q&A: Megyn Kelly.  Matthews makes book.  Move Lemon to 8pm (v/CNNC)?
  • Factor videos: Memo, and dishonest media.
  • Larry Kelly

    My favorite potato was so wrong about the prospects of THE FIVE I use that to poke him when I’m wrong about something.

    • sky303

      It was a surprise Hit for FNC

    • Cecelia

      I think I predicted that it would last five months.

      • Larry Kelly

        wasn’t that what the trolls of the day said about Fox News?

      • sky303

        when they said it was temporary I didn’t give it long either , but it did well for them to keep it

  • Larry Kelly

    Confederate flags so much the topic it got me wondering how many people own one? The last I had was a little one that came with my Johnny-Rebel hat durning the hundred year anniversary commemoration of the Civil War. Pains me to realize that was over fifty years ago.

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      Watch out. The Blog Commissar will say that Little Larry was a racist 50 years ago.

      • Larry Kelly

        Half my sixth grade class was. The other half had little Union flags and blue hats. We were colorblind and fans of Babe, the blue ox.

    • Cecelia

      I’m thinking that this gem should be one of those School House Rock things.

      http://iaf.tv/2015/06/24/9-facts-about-the-confederate-flag/?_ga=1.148265717.335451015.1435208315

      • gcblues

        would not play for me. lucky?

        • Cecelia

          Not lucky. It’s choice in it’s current day infantilism.

          You’d think the North was Berkley, CA, in nineteenth century and Pres. Lincoln was MLK.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            If you haven’t seen it, ESPN has produced a wonderful little documentary called “Ghosts of Ole Miss” which deals with the campus turmoil of James Meredith’s admission and the turmoil that caused in the midst of a very successful football season. It’s filled with little gems, mostly recollections of Southerners trying to understand who they are, and doing a very good job of it. One such segment was introduced by Faulkner’s line from “Requiem for a Nun”, about what you might call the tyranny of history: “The past is never dead. It’s not even past.” Mississippi is fascinating for me. Horrible, horrible institutionalized racism at its very worst, worse even than Alabama, but a core of liberalism as to racial matters in its artistic, literary and journalistic populations that is far more vibrant than that found anywhere else in the South

          • Cecelia

            Actually, I think I may have seen it. The ESPN thing rings a bell.

        • The Real Royal Emperor

          I got it to play. The problem for me was a very slow-loading Sprint ad in Spanish. A bit of patience, and it should work. It is actually a good little piece in the sense it could lead to some good discussion, a bit of thinking.

          • Cecelia

            Now you know there’s not a soul here naive enough to think you bothered with watching that or doing anything other than crafting an up to my down based upon what you imagine might bother me.

            How you came to think I hold some special affection for Alabama is beyond me. Bro, you are as transparent as plastic wrap.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            Actually one of my thoughts was: This couldn’t be on Schoolhouse Rock because of the language.

          • Cecelia

            When you decided to watch it after I called you out, your response was to miss the irony in my post, no doubt.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            Please don’t be so sanctimonious. I watched it as soon as I saw it posted despite having the access issue.

          • Cecelia

            And you’ve never used an alias on Mediaite either.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            No, I haven’t.

            I did change from RRKing to RREmperor, but I announced that.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Clucker, Waitrose, Ashlet; the list is endless.

          • gcblues

            a$$, don’t forget a$$.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            You forgot “hole.”

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            You have “issues,” that’s for sure.

      • Larry Kelly

        Now I’m just whistling Dixie.

        • The Real Royal Emperor

          I’m sure that many Americans would agree that the tune is vastly superior to that dreadful dirge, completely unsingable, we adopted as our national anthem in 1931. You’d think since we waited 150 years,we would have done much better.

          • Larry Kelly

            Don’t reply to me, troll.

          • Homemaker

            He doesn’t listen. It’s either too much earwax or blinders.

          • Larry Kelly

            no, it’s calculated

          • Cecelia

            Of course it is. Just keep walking.

          • gcblues

            requires a silver bullet.

          • gcblues

            nowhere to go, nobody wants it around.

          • Larry Kelly

            Jesus loves it. Hope it goes to see Jesus.

        • Cecelia

          Dixie is whistling Beyoncé or somebody.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Ken Burns was on Morning Joe addressing the South Carolina flag issue and promoting the remix of the “Civil War” masterpiece to air in September. He made the definitive statement on the reason for the War. Nothing to do with states’ rights. Never mentioned in the South Carolina Articles of Secession. Square on: slavery.

    • Cecelia

      That’s true.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Morgan is absolutely right. The NRA is riding high, in part because the conversation has been steered from guns to cloth and in part because we are so desensitized to mass shootings that we have made them simply a part of our culture. No one is surprised when a shooting occurs. When you think of America you simply think of huge numbers of deaths brought about by the use of guns.

    • Cecelia

      Pres. Obama isn’t running again. Dems don’t want to talk about gun restrictions this close to 2016 and the media isn’t going to make them.

      Until then they can try to wrek as much labeling and name calling as they can from the flag thing.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    So, now Ailes will “jointly” report to the male members of la Familia Murdoch. How I love dynastic struggles! This is going to be so much fun to watch!

    • Cecelia

      You’ve been at this so many years, regurgitating the latest hopes and dreams of people for whom hyping Fox intrigue is a pay check, that I even hope it goes better for you this time.

  • Larry Kelly

    Damn troll.

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      Damn commie troll.

  • Larry Kelly

    Heard gun control legislation discussed on NPR this morning, in WaPo, and on cable shows. Not a single answer to what laws exactly would have prevented the Charleston slaughter. All either huff and puffing of liberal zealots or speculation on chances of passage, mood of the country, wishful thinking, blah blah. Never the unstated goal to chip away, bit by bit, to eliminate the legal civilian possession of firearms. Give me an honest liberal, he’ll say that. I think Dukakis was the last honest liberal. Lesson learned.

    • The Real Royal Emperor

      I’ve long thought it odd, as well, that so many Americans believe that the huge number of shootings in America involve guns.

      • Larry Kelly

        don’t reply to me troll

        • Cecelia

          It wasn’t a reply. It was some sort of auto-response system that responds to key words only.

          • Larry Kelly

            Robo-Troll? That sounds like an invitation to an island? Let’s try it.

            Guns belong in the hands of all good Americans and commie liberals standing in the way of second amendment patriots protecting our gun rights from gun control enemies of freedom should leave this country before I find where they buried the puppies.

          • Cecelia

            As Mike would say,”ding”.

            Key words: Second, gun, rights, freedom, amendment, Patriots.

            Response: you and yours/blood/cowardly/radical rightists/for Spanish say or press 1…

          • gcblues

            it is not the views, it is the manner in which they are spewed. no debate points, just damage whomever so it feels better about itself.

          • Cecelia

            How is he damaging you? He’s just a guy trying to bother some people he doesn’t like.

            That alone should clue you into how much damage he’s capable of rendering.

          • gcblues

            so we agree, the intent is to inflict pain in others.

          • Marty

            I’ll agree with that,

          • Cecelia

            Agree? Helen Keller could see that. Sadists find their heart’s expression in trolling, but don’t make good ones. They’re too obvious.

      • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

        I’ve long thought it odd that you think that we give a sh*t what you have to say.

  • Larry Kelly

    Roger forever!

  • Larry Kelly
  • Larry Kelly

    I hear a rumbling in the court. Get ready cable, HERE IT COMES!

    • Larry Kelly

      GRUBER WINS!

      • The Real Royal Emperor

        I expected Kennedy for a 5:4, but Roberts for a 6:3 surprised me a bit.

        • Larry Kelly

          Don’t reply to me.

          • Marty

            Can i use this line? Or is it exclusively yours?

          • Larry Kelly

            Available to all.

          • Cecelia

            How did you get older than 17 yrs and not understand the psychology of a bully?

          • gcblues

            a bully that you can’t pound into pulp is different. why do you think it is here? ask it how many times it has had it’s butt kicked?

          • Cecelia

            A bully derides a sense of power from the distress he causes the people he hates. He either harbors a desire to punish people or feels little toward them. Not much in between at all.

            Your squealing like a girl is his bread and butter.

          • gcblues

            a normal person derives justice by beating the crap out of punk bullies.

          • Cecelia

            Well, you’re not in a venue where you could do that, and most importantly, that’s an impulse that you should have mastered long ago.

          • gcblues

            exactly my point re: venue. it is mastered, trust me. ty

          • Cecelia

            Did you get my point?

          • gcblues

            peace is for chumps.
            peas are for champions.

          • Cecelia

            And tears are for trolls.

          • Larry Kelly

            all we are saying
            Is give peas a chance

          • gcblues

            certainly no peace. gets you killed.

          • Cecelia

            No justice, no peas.

          • Larry Kelly

            Well, maybe I shouldn’t be bullying him huh? Okay Troll, reply as you must. I don’t want to be a bully, but I still won’t read anything from you unless told it’s a goodbye note.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Beat up on the oedipal all you want. It’s good to insult a commie.

          • Cecelia

            and there’s a difference between that and crying like a little girl.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            I try to be creative in my insults.

          • Larry Kelly

            Damn troll.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Damn commie troll.

    • Michael T

      In what he admitted was an “off the wall” comment John King postulated that John Roberts siding with the ‘liberals’ will be used against Jeb Bush.

      Say what?

      According to King, opponents of Bush will argue, “Your dad gave us David Souter and your brother gave us John Roberts.”

      My initial reaction was to laugh. But perhaps John King has a point.

      • Marty

        Tell us something the left won’t use against him.
        And that includes the media.

        • Michael T

          Oops!

          “According to King, opponents of Bush will argue…”

          should be

          “According to King, Republican opponents of Bush will argue…”

          Thought that was implied. But I guess not. ☺

          • Marty

            Ok- I misunderstood.
            Happens often.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            So, it is not the liberals after him ….

            Well, it’s been clear for some time, and I’ve even written here, the individual Republicans need to worry about other Republicans. At least for the year. The Democrats are content to just watch. That’s a good move.

          • Cecelia

            Good for the candidates too. A natural winnowing that works to the advantage of the successor.

          • Cecelia

            Oops. Sorry. What Michael said…

        • Cecelia

          His Republican opponents will use it.

          • Marty

            Yes they will.
            I misunderstood.
            Big boys and girls can handle it.

          • Cecelia

            Good for them actually.

          • Marty

            Yep. And screw the haters.

          • gcblues

            why give them benefits? i am confused?

          • Marty

            Give who benefits? Rightists?

          • gcblues

            well i have the “benefit” of being screwed at home. at least it is beneficial to us.

          • Marty

            Got it! Jiji.

          • gcblues

            it’s being without the benefit of human comfort is one of the few reassurances that karma exists.

      • Homemaker

        Your point about John King’s point hit the nail in the head.

  • Michael T

    I suspect deep down Mr. Bill knew that he better not bet a dinner with either Lis Wiehl or Kimberly Guilfolye.

    He had ‘mildly’ disagreed with their (correct) prediction that the plaintiffs/petitioners would lose their challenge to the ACA.

    • Cecelia

      And with Wiehl he’d probably get Mickey tagging along.

      • Marty

        Mickey is her ex.

        • Michael T

          Yes.

          Ol’ Mickey has had a rough go of it in recent years (although I understand he did get his law license back).

          First, while in prison he fell out of the upper bunk bed twice injuring himself. As if that wasn’t enough, Ms. Wiehl dumped him in 2012.

          • Marty

            Didn’t know he fell off the bunk.
            Tough times.

          • gcblues

            lol. some things are not meant to be known.

          • Cecelia

            “Fell” off the upper bunk twice, huh?…

          • Michael T

            He fell out of the top bunk twice before corrections officers gave him a bed closer to the floor. It was a good six-foot drop, Sherman recalls.

          • Cecelia

            And maybe a new roommate.

            Glad he’s out now and I wish him well.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Lis is on the market? Does she like crazy injuns?

        • Cecelia

          Oh, that’s a shame. They were married a long time I think.

    • Toss in Judge Nap and you have FNC’s top three legal analysts all on the nose in predicting the court’s ruling. Oh, that wacky Fox “News”.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Great fun over at the FOX “News” cite. You can’t even read comments for all the new ones coming in. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/25/supreme-court-upholds-obamacare-subsidies/

    • TheMightyINB

      “site”

      • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

        He only went to the fifth grade.

  • Michael T

    Just about ready to switch my DVR from CNN coverage to FNC coverage.

    But before I leave CNN I wanted to express my modest surprise that Jake was hosting the coverage instead of Wolf. A pleasant surprise to many I’m sure.

    No truth to the rumor that BriWi called into MSNBC management begging to come in and anchor the coverage. /sarc

    • gcblues

      briwhy been spotted on a motorcycle riding across Nicaragua.

      • Michael T

        Presumably if you see BriWi you will not be inviting him into your place for some of your homemade Gallo Pinto. ☺

        • gcblues

          you talking pinto my wife swoons. have you been to central america?

          • Michael T

            I have not.

          • gcblues

            it is only called that in C.A. did you do an internet cuisine search lol?

          • Michael T

            Yes, I cheated.

            Knowing how much you like cooking I searched on “favorite food in Nicaragua.” ☺

          • gcblues

            its rice and beans man, just another name for rice and beans

          • Larry Kelly

            There’s rice and beans and there’s rice and beans.

          • gcblues

            this is salted rice and beans nothing else.

          • Larry Kelly

            green beans and white rice?

          • gcblues

            not Greeks no green beans and rice or spinach and rice. only at my house.

          • Marty

            I like beans. I like rice. But not so sure about beans and rice. I like meatloaf, though.

          • gcblues

            many types of beans and rice and it is delicious …. unless you need to live on it with no other options. then it is deadly.

          • Cecelia

            I have a pea salad recipe for you to go with your meatloaf.

            I’ll post it in a bit.

          • gcblues

            cool, like those

          • Cecelia

            Comfort food at its finest.

          • Cecelia

            http://allrecipes.com/recipe/1-pea-salad-most-requested/

            If you don’t do homemade mayo…start.
            Let this sit in the fridge a day or so before digging in.

    • The Real Royal Emperor

      Indeed. Not much of a Tapper fan, but I find Blitzer almost unwatchable.

      I watched about 30 minutes of whatever the name of the show Tantaros is on. Lots of venom today. Lots of apocalyptic talk. She even made reference to the fact that King is as big a change as Marbury v. Madison. I’ll give Napolitano his due. He quickly jumped in and said, no, not anything of that magnitude.

  • The Real Royal Emperor
  • sky303

    Aww no more Bob, that’s sad news

    • carolr527

      I don’t understand why Bob and FOX have severed ties.

      • Larry Kelly

        It sounds like management came to the conclusion he was gaming them over his health issues.

        • I hope he doesn’t go to a competitor, like MSNBC, when his issues are squared away. Meanwhile, I’m for Julie Roginsky taking his place on The Five.

          • carolr527

            I like Julie, too, but shouldn’t Juan Williams get the job?

          • gcblues

            juan pulls lots of duty

          • If he’s willing to move to New York, as Bob did. Julie already lives there.

          • Cecelia

            Dana has a beautiful place there.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            Anthony Weiner already lives in New York, and he can be as caustic as anyone on the program.

          • Cecelia

            That’s not a bad idea at all.

    • Larry Kelly

      who gets the money in the swear jar?

      • carolr527

        LOL!

    • Cecelia

      I’m sorry too. Based on the employer-employee culture at FNC, Beckel must have been beyond unreasonable.

      I wish it hadn’t come to this.

      • The Real Royal Emperor

        Have you read the Bill Shine letter? He speaks of FOX being held hostage by Beckel. Nasty. Beckel promises a response.

        • Cecelia

          I read what’s linked above.

          Treatment for substance abuse is dificult enough without it being compounded with suffering from chronic pain.

          Mr. Beckel needs our prayers.

          • sky303

            yeah I am hoping a good recovery for him and maybe one day a great return to TV for him

          • Cecelia

            Me too.

            Or a wonderful retirement focusing on his health and using his experience to help others who grapple with the same struggle.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            Indeed he does.

        • Michael T

          Shine also said that Juan Williams and Geraldo Rivera will be taking over Beckel’s old spot. The two commentators, along with Julie Roginsky, have been holding down the fort in Beckel’s absence.”

          Two quick points:
          A. Sorry it ended like this with Bob being accused of “taking tremendous advantage of our generosity.”
          B. As others have expressed here, I was hoping it would be Julie Roginsky who replaced Bob.

          • The Real Royal Emperor

            I don’t think I know who Roginsky is.

  • Larry Kelly

    Can a FOX-HATER troll read Wemple today and still be a troll? YEP, they are what they are regardless of reality.

    • The Real Royal Emperor

      Seriously?

      From Wemple:

      “This is no way to run a multinational media company, and there’s no
      reason to believe that corporate governance of Fox News in the coming
      years of Ailes’ multi-year deal will be any less chaotic than this
      charade.”

      • Larry Kelly

        Don’t reply to me.

    • Marty

      Reality is a concept that is hard for some to accept.
      So we must keep beating the dead horse.

  • Lurker

    Julie Roginsky should takeover for Beckle!

    • sky303

      I hope she does too

  • Today’s most popular links:
    5 Julie Roginsky
    4 Nomiki Konst
    3 took advantage
    2 Fox News hit
    And the most popular link in today’s links…
    1 Bob Beckel and FNC split.

  • Michael T

    With all the breaking news this past week the Sunday morning shows like MediaBuzz and Reliable Sources should have plenty to chew on.

    Now you can add to it the war brewing between Donald Trump and Univision on two fronts.
    1. Univision announced today that it would be cutting ties with the Miss Universe Organization because it is partially owned by Trump. Donald Trump unsurprisingly told Erin Burnett he will sue.
    2. Just days before Univision announced it would host a Republican debate, one of its top executives likened Donald Trump to alleged mass murderer Dylann Storm Roof by posting an Instagram photo of the two of them side-by-side.

    • Cecelia

      Side-by-side with Roof. That’s subtle.

      • Larry Kelly

        If someone says something disgusting and you counter by saying something more disgusting, you lose.

  • Fox haters who’ve been insulting Beckel for months today are suddenly crying crocodile tears over his firing. One of them had pithily ridiculed Beckel with “Beckel led Mondale to historic loss, as he readily says. Questions?” But today she’s all “Motherf@ckers. If he ends up dead, we know how.” While another said this website has “already moved on to which babe gets the job and ‘siding with the network’. Pr!cks.”

    Yes, a “strange new respect” for Bob Beckel that began the minute he stopped working for Fox News. It is ever thus in the Fox haters’ echo chamber.

    • Marty

      Can’t imagine who would say such nasty things!

      • I’ll bet if you put your mind to it, you could imagine quite a lot. 😉

    • Cecelia

      Same thing with Lauren Ashburn. She went from being as useless as tits on a Fox News anchor to martyrdom.

      • Yes! Exactly so.

        • Cecelia

          Gregg Jarrett certainly is an example of FNC standing by its own.

          That’s not an eternal possibility. Sometimes, in some cases, it’s just not enough.

        • Marty

          Has Greg Gutfeld been blamed yet?

    • Juan Williams is a babe?

      • gcblues

        mike we had no idear! ohhhh a question whew.

      • Well, I never said they were bright.

        • Cecelia

          No one would.

      • Cecelia

        Maybe they meant Geraldo. They might of liked that selfie.

    • Larry Kelly

      These are not decent people. They are imaginative in being able to think so.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    No Mister Bill!

    • The Real Royal Emperor

      Who is this dude, and why is he hosting? Amateur hourish.

      • The Real Royal Emperor

        So, the comparison between the Nazi-Era Swastika flag and Jews, and the Confederate Battle flag and African-Americans is invalid because we don’t fly the Swastika in the US? Geez! Isn’t that exactly the point? Send this dude to the minors. Is there a FOX affiliate in Muscle Shoals?

  • Clay Cane showed that left-leaning opinions on identity politics will never, ever, ever change.

    • The Real Royal Emperor

      What is it that ought to have brought about this change?

  • Saintsfan720

    I wish Bob well and hope he gets better. But, his contributions had not been particularly good for some time. He seemed unprepared and uninformed on many of the topics being discussed. Either Juan or Julie would be better at articulating the liberal point of view.

  • ojfl

    Not Nomiki. Julie is much better and not so crazy.

    • Michael T

      The Daily Caller reported this afternoon that Fox News Executive Vice President Bill Shine said that Juan Williams and Geraldo Rivera will be taking over Beckel’s old spot on a rotating basis.

      • carolr527

        Both of them?

        • Michael T

          That’s what Bill Shine supposedly said.

          Not on the same shows of course. ☺

        • Michael T

          Now I am leaning that CNN, Politico and NewsBusters all disagree with The Daily Caller.

          TDC said, “Bill Shine said that Juan Williams and Geraldo Rivera will be taking over Beckel’s old spot.”

          The others quoted Bill Shine as saying, “Juan Williams and Geraldo Rivera will be among those rotating on the show for the near future.”

      • ojfl

        Thank you.

  • I haven’t been able to moderate the comments much lately for personal reasons, and it will remain that way for the immediate future. I have noticed however the name calling, and I guess I was naive to think people would tire of it on their own, because that hasn’t happened. This isn’t a blanket condemnation; some people almost never step out of line, while others are habitual offenders. I suspect most people have an idea of where on that spectrum they fall and can adjust accordingly.

    If you appreciate the more free-wheeling nature of the discussions when a moderator isn’t riding herd over every sentence, then you might show your appreciation by not making others slog through dozens of name-calling comments to find a nugget of actual discussion buried within. If things continue as they are I’ll have to do something and I won’t be able to fine-tune my response. It will be a meat-axe rather than a scalpel, and really, nobody wants that.

    So now you know where things stand; the rest is up to you. There is no need to reply to this comment. Your future behavior will constitute your response. Thank you so much.

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      I admit that I have gone far over the line. But I think that I speak, not only for myself but many others, when I say that there is one person causing all of this. And he uses a crown as his avatar. Before he decided to start his antics, this was an enjoyable and peaceful place to post.

  • Z3TA2

    I’m also rooting for Nomiki Konst to get hired on The Five, but since she’s never been on it (I don’t think) she might be a long shot.