Jan 282016
  • Michael T

    Late on Wednesday I heard a non-partisan analyst make two points which resonated with me — at least compared to what some others were saying,

    1. It wasn’t as much about Fox News, or Megyn Kelly, as it was about Donald Trump looking for an excuse to make some news like any reality TV star. He knows how to stay as the main character in this GOP primary.
    2. He has a slight lead in Iowa and most front runners have one strategy in common. They don’t want to debate those behind them. They want to sit on their lead and run out the clock.

    Which begs the question, “Even if the debate was on CNN, would Trump have simply found a different excuse to boycott?”

    Which BTW, is why Mr. Bill’s plea to reconsider likely fell on deaf ears.

    • Larry Kelly

      Yep… let me reconsider that… yep.

    • Cecelia

      Trump has certainly gotten what he wanted then.

      A sage/wag on Disqus parodies toadies by calling Pres. Obama “JesusJFKMonroe”.

      Since we don’t have any adults with perspective in the world today, the media has now effectively bestowed that title upon candidate Trump.

      However, conversely to their fealty to the president, they’ll put a garden shed full of utensils in Trump’s back the minute it comes down to he and Hillary.

    • gc

      psssssssssssst, forward looking economic indicators look really bad with current tax, health and reg policies. any specific legislation proposed to save our rears? any? please. any at all?

    • Michael T

      In his Talking Points tonight Mr. Bill cited this theory (by Chris Cillizza) as “Perhaps the best analysis.”

      It always puts a spring in my step when ‘Papa Bear’ agrees with me.

      • Wouldn’t it be something if the former Countdown semi-regular ended up on The Factor?

        • Michael T

          Yes it would indeed.

          Although at times Cillizza has been quite critical of Hillary — so at least they should have some common ground.

  • Larry Kelly

    Holding a decade old grudge, the Spudmeister never misses an opportunity to trash the “FOX PR Department”:
    But the NYT reports today that the little jewel of a press release that Trump rages about was written by Roger AIles personally after getting the phone call backing of Rupert Murdoch.

    I don’t think Spud ever got over the accusation he was a starchy, edible tuber.

    • Cecelia

      It’s interesting that Trump has made Kelly a punching for he and his supporters for a year and the response from the chattering class has been to complain that Fox honchos aren’t defending her…not defending her enough…throwing her under the bus by walking a business tightrope…etc.

      After a year Ailes issues a sarcastic tongue-in-cheek response to The Donald’s demands and accusations and the chatterers say that he is guilty of unprofessionalism, shooting the channel in the foot… and delightedly say that the devil enabled Trump to claim that the devil made him do it….


      • It’s a little early but that puts you in the running for Commenter of the Day. There are certain corners of the internet where ‘heads I win, tails you lose’ is the immutable mode to attack anything Fox News does.

        • Cecelia

          There’s a segment of the media that plays that same game …and by segment I mean most of it.

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      And Shemp had to jump right in to second.

    • GATXER

      Well Spud at least doesn’t hide his Fox News grudge……I cant understand it but I respect that at least hes honest about it and doesn’t pretend to be fair when it comes to Fox.

      • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

        I consider him a common tater.

  • In The Baker Files segment on last night’s Red Eye, Mike Baker referred to News Corp when he should have referred to 21st Century Fox.

    • Even Shep does that on occasion, and he should know better!

  • Larry Kelly

    The media has made quite the villains of the Oregon ranchers. Showing very little couiosity of the circumstances surrounding the rancher death and wounding by authorities. Maybe only #blacklivesmatter.

    Maybe it just typical of bias at work.

    Watched the Coal Wars on PBS AMERICAN EXPERIENCE last night. The docmentory had a lot of sympathy for the West Virgina insurrection of 5,000 armed striking miners invading a neighboring county defended by State Police and Sheriff. People died in the jailbreak attempt. It was pointed out the miners had no choice when they felt their government abandonded them as they attempted to unionize.

    Point being: reporting always depends on what side the observer takes.

    • Cecelia

      Larry, I saw that too (and had seen Matewan) and saw it described as the biggest armed insurrection since the civil war.

      I wondered too if that bunch of working class white guys would now get the time of day in any dispute with the liberal substitute for God.

    • homemaker

      FBI posted video of the shooting of the rancher. IMO: unjustified killing.

  • Michael T

    OT: Spelling Humor

    Which is more dificult to figure out?

    A. Why Trump is boycotting the debate.
    B. How to spell the following word.
    Is it
    front runner?

    (The major websites and Twitter accounts are all over the map. The NYT and USA Today seem to prefer front-runner.)

    This is too much for me to handle. I’m still hung up on the correct pronunciation of Muslim. 😉

    • Cecelia

      We pronounce Muslim as Mueslix after a very young relative referred to them as that.

      • Michael T


  • Per Talking Points, “Ol’ Bob” officially burned the bridge from FNC to CNN. I also told J$ on Facebook that Beckel made an Olbermannian turn, if not a Shusteran one, at CNN. Shusteran would make more sense since David Shuster is a former FNCer. Other ex-employees to trash their former employer include David Corn and Eric Burns.

  • Cecelia

    Can anyone imagine CNN giving any other political candidate their own prime time forum?

    Me neither.

    • Well, what other political candidate has threatened journalists and demanded veto power over debate moderators? CNN has welcomed that mindset and they now own it.

      • Marty

        Last night on Don Lemon’s show, Frank Sesno( sp?) was quite impassioned about just what you said. Journalistic integrity was paramount. After he spoke the rest of the panel discussion just kind of moved along like he never said anything important. Lemon seemed quite pleased that CNN would be covering Trump.

        • sky303

          since he got to cover it .. he’s hoping for those cheap Trump ratings … good symbol though Don Lemon and Journalistic integrity ummm never matched up

  • Son of Blackflon

    I miss dad

    • Blackflon

      How nice.

      • Son of Blackflon


        • Larry Kelly

          Like father like son.

  • Marty

    I can’t believe Huckabee and Santorum have gone to the Trump “event”. How desperate are these two???

    • Larry Kelly

      Picks up the stragglers, the dark side does.

    • homemaker

      Very desperate.

  • Larry Kelly

    Fox News: Trump demanded $5 million donation to participate in debate

    By Hadas Gold
    01/28/2016 09:18 PM EDT

    Fox News shot back at Donald Trump after he claimed in an interview with CNN that the network had called him multiple times and apologized to him for a tongue-in-cheek statement about the GOP front-runner.

    A Fox News source stressed that there was “no apology” made to Trump.

    In a statement, Fox News also accused Trump of wanting a “quid pro quo” in order to attend the debate – in the form of a $5 million donation to charity – and denied that network honcho Roger Ailes had placed “multiple calls” to the real estate mogul.

    “Roger Ailes had three brief conversations with Donald Trump today about possibly appearing at the debate – there were not multiple calls placed by Ailes to Trump. In the course of those conversations, we acknowledged his concerns about a satirical observation we made in order to quell the attacks on Megyn Kelly, and prevent her from being smeared any further. Furthermore, Trump offered to appear at the debate upon the condition that FOX News contribute $5 million to his charities. We explained that was not possible and we could not engage in a quid pro quo, nor could any money change hands for any reason. In the last 48 hours, we’ve kept two issues at the forefront – we would never compromise our journalistic standards and we would always stand by our journalist, Megyn Kelly. We have accomplished those two goals and we are pleased with the outcome. We’re very proud to have her on stage as a debate moderator alongside Bret Baier & Chris Wallace.”

  • Michael T

    Is Donald Trump now playing nice with Fox News after he managed to dodge the risk of participating in their debate?

    I’m sensing a little of that.