Aug 302016
 
  • Michael T

    Calling @Torcer and @gcblues.

    Check out this very articulate and informed caller to Rush Limbaugh’s show and tell me if you don’t agree that he has one of the better (negative) takes on Donald Trump that presumably all three of us agree with.

    Same goes for @Ramjet. But for whatever reason he stopped commenting here after Cruz lost.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/after-being-lectured-by-caller-limbaugh-swears-he-never-took-trump-seriously-on-immigration/

    • gcblues

      ok, i read it, do i have to listen too? it gets old when everyone and everything are simply no good lousy bunko stupid. it gets more depressing when there is no one out in the public arena that is not simply no good lousy bunko stupid. rained hard. gonna play in the garden then spray for citrus flies. it is the least i can do.

      • Larry Kelly

        Damn citrus flys!

        • gcblues

          got the 7 plagues going on. had strong 3 year el niño, now we get real rain. every plant and bug is going nuts. i planted bananas interspaced with lemon grass for skeeter repellent. the bananas over 20 feet tall, still spitting leaves with no fruit in sight yet.

          • Larry Kelly

            I learned as a child living next to the orchards of Western Mchigan, farming is very stressful as Mother Nature’s whims can be unmerciful.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Mother Nature can be a real mother.

          • gcblues

            Busanos eating my grapes need to die. they are worms that lay eggs and eat leaves and become moths just long enough to lay a few million more eggs. thed white citrus flies lay eggs and the leaves all go spastic, not to mention all sorts of funguses.

          • Larry Kelly

            Sounds like a monster movie.

        • Cecelia

          I like the lime ones.

          • Larry Kelly

            Go well with gin and club soda.

          • Cecelia

            And gin and gin.

          • Larry Kelly

            Pour the gin and whisper into the glass, “club soda”.

      • Michael T

        Well, the whole point was to listen to it for enjoyment.

        Oh well. I didn’t mean to put you out.

        • gcblues

          u did not cause my cynicism, Ben Bernanke and Barney Frank, now they hurt me, politics, you’all gone banana republic. seriously, think of the political figures of our time. what a clown show. clinton trump? we have to treat these two like they could actually do something good? fergit about it. neither are welcome in my house.

          • gcblues

            so i have basically shut down all the novela gossip called news. i just want names and numbers, all i get is opinion about things that don’t matter.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            You can always do what I do. Turn it on, mute the sound and look at the pretty ladies.

          • Cecelia

            Sound.

          • Larry Kelly

            Me, maybe if Trump brought the steaks. Hillary, no. I couldn’t shut up my dog.

  • GATXER

    Why you always have to read beyond the headlines…….Head stooge who spent most of monday complaining about Black people on Fox…….. retweeted this story which says:

    Sean Hannity pushes bogus claim for Colin Kaepernick’s protest: He ‘converted to Islam’

    but of course there a catch…..Hannity actually said “Anyway, it said during the off-season he may have converted to Islam”

    See the difference? “HE MAY HAVE”

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/sean-hannity-pushes-bogus-claim-for-colin-kaepernicks-protest-he-converted-to-islam/

    As ive said IMHO SH doesn’t belong on a news network…..but if he’s so bad why do they have to lie about him? If Fox News was just 10% as bad as the disgraced haters want you to think…….they would never have to lie about Fox or edit quotes or headlines.

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      Our local news called him a convert. Who knows?

      • Cecelia

        They should know before they say it. Including Hannity.

    • Michael T

      “Head stooge who spent most of Monday complaining about Black people on Fox.”

      This is a totally bogus charge and I think you know it — or should know it.

      Total Monday Tweets and retweets by Ice: 85+
      Total mentioning women – Hillary (17), Laura Ingraham (1), Beyonce’ (1), Huma Abedin (1), Meghan McCain (1), Katrina Pierson (1), Greta (3), Kayleigh McEnany (1), Rachel Maddow (1), Kellyanne Conway (1) and Harris Faulkner (12)

      So that’s 12 out of 40 about women with none mentioning Harris Faulkner’s race.

      • Wow, you actually went through 85 tweets to compile those stats? You should work for the State Dept. We’d have seen those emails months earlier! 😉

        But since you did all that work anyhow, what are the figures when you don’t include RTs, or non-cable-news personnel?

        • Michael T

          “Wow, you actually went through 85 tweets.”

          Yeah, 20 minutes out of a retiree’s day is nothing Johnny.

          These fabricated accusations about ‘anyone’ being a racist are both disappointing (Gatxer should know better) and annoying….and I am going to continue to call him on it until he stops.

          IMO, you too should expect accuracy on your website…even when the inaccuracy is about someone who writes for an anti Fox News blog.

          • GATXER

            “These fabricated accusations about ‘anyone’ being a racists are both disappointing and annoying….and I am going to continue to call him on it until he stops.”

            Well have fun because when I see them whine about people of color so much more than others….I’m going to point it out………..ignoring it just makes racist think nobody cares.

          • Michael T

            Yeah, like people here at J$P are running to their keyboards to support your characterization of Ice.

            Earth to Gatxer, that would normally be interpreted as perhaps I should reconsider my claim. I’m certainly wiling to admit when I didn’t assess someone correctly.

            Your stubbornness is unbecoming.

          • GATXER

            Well you are friends with known racists so…….I would expect you dont assess people well on a regular basis.

            You sure are paying attention as did J$ and a few others………..again what did I say that was wrong?

            Did the whine about 24 people of color that were on #1 Fox News……..Yes
            Did the whine about only 11 white people on #1 Fox News…..yes

            NOT seeing the lie there.

            #laughingstocks

          • Michael T

            Yet, despite my plea…you continue to offer no proof about the “24 people of color”…e,g, their names or a link to a few of the tweets you’re referring to.

          • GATXER

            You counted them didnt you???

            It’s easy….go back and look at ONLY hosts and guests ON Fox news……you will find 24 posts about people of color and only 11 about white people…..that’s MOST….in my math book.

            If I waste my time and give you all the posts and I’M 100% right…..which I am………and they complained about 24 vs 11 would you admit Im right???

            Of course you won’t…..so I see no reason to waste 30 min doing something you won’t admit to anyway.

            I wonder if mass deletion is about to happen like his ridiculous misspelled post last week………a pretend “writer” he is…..but great for Disgraced Newshounds.

          • Michael T

            You’re either imaging things or you are no longer talking about the point of my OP – Ice’s Monday Twitter timeline.

            Only three African Americans were mentioned and only one was on Fox News (Outnumbered).

          • GATXER

            “Only three African Americans were mentioned and only one was on Fox News (Outnumbered).”

            OK……i could make you look like a liar….but I’m not……….it evident that you can’t read….I said

            “Head stooge who spent most of monday complaining about Black people on Fox.”

            here’s one you clearly missed;

            Fav scary black man they disagree with:

            https://twitter.com/IceManNYR/status/770288601477308416

            heres another
            https://twitter.com/IceManNYR/status/770276806280749057

            and another
            https://twitter.com/IceManNYR/status/770276220109987840

            Now based on your view of the disgraced “writer” TL…and the posts that you clearly missed…..I wonder which is the more accurate version?

            I don’t mind that you lie to defend the stooges but please don’t tell me i’m lying when what I said it right there.

          • Michael T

            For months you’ve been saying “black women on Fox News.”

            Now today you decided to veer from your normal imaginary racism and write “Black people.”

            I missed that. Score one for Gatxer.

            Of course, you only really added one more tweet to Ice’s tweets because the second two tweets for which you were good enough to provide links are ABOUT TRUMP – NOT BLACK FOLKS.

            So now we have Ice tweeting about the following A-As:
            Beyonce’ (1), Katrina Pierson (1), Harris Faulkner (12) and Sheriff Clarke (1).

            So 15 tweets (or mentions) out of a timeline 85 entries long…or 17 tweets if you insist on including the two about Trump.

          • GATXER

            I know to some people all black people look alike and all……but one of those black men is Dr. Carson…BUT I guess I shouldn’t wonder why black man might look alike to you……LOL…….I NEVER counted Beyonce……as she wasn’t a guest or host ON Fox News………if you can’t take the time to READ what I write…..please don’t reply.

            Ive said “people of color” and”women of color” and “black people” and “African Americans”……..here all in the last month…see it depends on what they post…..i’m not some nut who just types something over and over………what I type depends on what is said and not what I want them to say………….of the people ON Fox NEWS the whined about they overwhelm whined about Black people…………..24 vs 11….I was right.

            Thank you.

            BTW: I notice you don’t think a Bernie supporter could be a fan of Fox News……that just proves you don’t know the type of people who watch Fox News….HINT: most people who watch Fox News…….are NOT Conservative ..and i guess you didnt realize that Bernie has appeared on Fox News many many times…….in fact that’s where I first saw him……years ago.

            And with this I’m done talking to the wall tonight……its starting to feel like i’m just banging my head into it……its worthless.

          • Michael T

            “24 vs 11….I was right.”

            Still waiting for the 24 tweets about black people by Ice ‘they whined about’ on Monday.

            Concealing your lack of names in a 200-word comment is not fooling anyone.

            Good nite.

          • GATXER

            OH STFU….count for yourself…….If I post the 24 VS 11 will you admit I’m right that they complain about Black people more than whites? If so I’ll waste my time and give you all 35 posts…..otherwise why waste my time for a guy who can’t admit what he even counted……you know i’m right if you counted them………you just can’t bring yourself to admit I might be right about the disgraced racist stooges.

            If not go back to you circle jerk where they tell you that everything you think is right.

            I feel no need to prove myself to a guy who’s friends with racist men who call women goons.

            GOODNIGHT!

          • Michael T

            Based on your poor analytical skills and level of writing (or lack thereof) and overuse of ellipses I am curious, how far did you go in school?

            I put you at about a 9th grade writing level. Am I close?

          • GATXER

            It really drives you nuts when people point out your racist friends……..just call me a goon and move on…..oh and you are wrong about me almost as much as you are about Fox News.

            When the internet grammar police show up…..you know you have won.

            I will really stop now……..feel free to keep lying about what I said…..but i’m going to bed….so you will be talking to yourself.

          • Michael T

            “If I post the 24 vs. 11, will you admit I’m right?”

            Of course I will. Have you not been paying attention? I have already conceded at least two points to you today.

            I suspect we are using different metrics however,

            Seventeen tweets/retweets out of 85+ is hardly, “Spending most of Monday (on Twitter) complaining about black people on Fox.”

          • GATXER

            going to bed….will post links to all tomorrow night.

            I will expect you to admit that they targeted Blacks ON Fox more than whites…..at least for one day.

          • Michael T

            Don’t move the goal post.

            The debate point triggered by your OP is, “Did Ice spend most of Monday (on Twitter) complaining about black people on Fox.”

            Sleep well. I’m expecting a clear-headed debater later on Wednesday.

          • Larry Kelly

            My main complaint about ICE is dull as a butter knife.

          • Michael T

            I’m certainly wiling to admit when I didn’t assess someone correctly. For example, you corrected me months ago about my misrepresentation of something I had said about Trump and tax analysts saying he should file even when being audited.

            I was wrong. (See how easy that is?)

          • GATXER

            As Ive said I don’t believe I’m wrong on this….I admit I’m wrong here all the time…….I did so with the Roger Alies thing……I did so with the AT……but since her legal filling I’m not so sure I was wrong…..it does have a pretty big lie in it……..I admitted I was wrong about GC……..I have had ZERO problem when I’M wrong……in this case I just don’t have any doubt…….they complain MORE about people of color on Fox News then they do others……..I noticed it like a year ago…..but it wasn’t till I ran the numbers that I ever even mentioned it here………..It’s not like #1 Fox News is filled with people of color like BET….for crying out loud. I’m sorry you can’t see it….I do and when I see a example of it….I point it out…..just like I do when I see them lie or misrepresent something…..if I have the time…….most days I don’t bother.

            I don’t throw the race card around……I think Trump is racist……but like ICE hes never used the N word……..in not spending my night repeating something you aren’t hearing…..and never will.

        • Michael T

          “But since you did all that work anyhow, what are the figures when you don’t include RTs, or non-cable-news personnel?”

          It so happened Monday was one of the more active days for Harris making controversial and biased statements in the eyes of many on the left.

          I don’t know the answer to your question other than to say 12 tweets (none mentioning race) about Harris are atypical in the year plus I have followed Ice.

          For example, there were none today and it should be clear to any fair minded person that Ice did not “…spend most of Monday complaining about Black people on Fox.” This is a total misrepresentation of his Twitter timeline.

          • I don’t see controversy or bias in the questions Harris asks but some do, and that’s what makes horse racing as my uncle used to say. Thanks!

          • Michael T

            Totally agree.

            For example, as it turned out most of the sports world was on her side when it came to Kaepernick sitting out the National Anthem. Although some (like me) wish we would have seen that same amount of outrage toward Donald Trump when he insulted POWs (in the eyes of many).

          • Larry Kelly

            We did.

          • Michael T

            I meant from Harris — not others.

        • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

          He simply follows orders, Johnny.

          • Michael T

            In your distorted sense of reality dude.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            We’ve seen you follow, Joe’s instructions in the past. You have a record.

          • GATXER

            EXACTLY!!!!

            Then he go on his TL and complain about it…….I think he should sue J$ for punitive damages for making him read my posts.

          • Michael T

            More like pleas to set the record straight. None of which have been rebutted I might add.

            Still waiting for at least ONE regular here at J$P to support Gaxter’s fabrication that Ice is a racist.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            I rebutted you. And, simply because Ice hasn’t called anyone a n****r, doesn’t mean he isn’t a racist.

          • Michael T

            So that’s the bar now?

            Wow! That’s incredulous.

            BTW, I thought you and I had a gentleman’s agreement that in the absense of links to what was said years ago on ICN — it basically comes down to a he-said-he-said. So now you’re reneging?

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            I am not reneging on one damn thing. This has zero to do with ICN. Try to focus on the here and now. Or, don’t answer at all and go play with your friends.

          • GATXER

            Actually isnt it he said (JOE) VS you said…..Larry said and I said……and a few others have said….Joe said it and people saw it……we have talked about it a few times……its not like we only talked about it years later….he was called on it at the time.

          • Michael T

            In that case Mr. Charming, I will be less polite my hardliner angry friend and fellow veteran.

            You never successfully rebutted a single comment from the recent past.

            Where’s this rewriting of history and your imaginary rebuttal.

            It’s been less than two weeks. A scroll through Discus should find it for you and then you can enlighten us all. (As I said before, “Talk is cheap.”)

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            I rebutted your (Joe’s) lies that you posted. It was last week. However, out of respect for Johnny, I am simply going to ignore you from now on.

          • GATXER

            He’s been polite?

            I guess calling you a knuckle dragging commenter is polite in some circles…….not so much mine.

            https://twitter.com/sdmike1974/status/769031521453899777

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            I know. From here on out I am ignoring him.

          • Michael T

            He doesn’t seem like a Breitbart commenter to you at times?

            Oh well.

          • Michael T

            I did find your comment from 4 days ago, “I guess that my people being savages, straight out of the Stone Age was a compliment.”

            But this was said years ago on ICN (or perhaps J$P) and as I mentioned we have no links to prove who is now correctly representing what was actually written at the time.

            I have no issue with either of you since we have no proof.

          • Larry Kelly

            Treasures of truth buried at ICN. I’ll live with all my gems including that of calling out the 17 year old thug in training with enough stuff on his phone to send him to jail had he not tried to beat the snuff out of the “white guy”.

          • Larry Kelly

            Laria said a really nasty thing about Nix. Ask Joe. He will tell you. He tried to apologize for her. She never did. Just decided to go after Spud with a two by four instead. I stood back in awe. Old fart awe.

          • Michael T

            Gee, I’m sorry I missed all the fun ‘back in the day’…sounds like there were some real battles.

            I’m actually being sarcastic…I’d rather discuss than argue. Not a fan of all the bickering.

            If people would only just agree with me 100% of the time, do they not realize how happy (like a 6-year-old with an ice cream cone) I would be. (Actually that would be unbelievably boring.)

          • Michael T

            Good.

            The tag teaming gets old real fast.

            This is a debate between Gatxer and me.

            What has always mystified me is why some on the right can’t just disagree about cable news. Fox News True Believers seem to take criticism as a personal affront, and treat the critic as the Enemy Who Must Be Crushed.

          • Cecelia

            Guess that mantra has become so all-purpose that you trot it out in an argument not about Fox, but about an accusation that you’ve allowed yourself to become the mouthpiece for guy with a control-freak streak as big as his liver.

            Sure that this is not because in the heat of an election,with your anger at FNC coverage of it, that we’ve become “the enemy that must be crushed”, Michael?

            Just say’n.

          • Michael T

            Your constant snide remarks about Joe Remi’s issues with alcohol are beneath you Cecelia.

            I wish you’d stop. It makes you look small.

          • Cecelia

            Nah.

          • Michael T

            Okay.

            I’ll let Remi know that the Bible warns us about Cece the devil and her evil ways.

            I’m sure he will be totally comforted and wish you forgiveness by your Lord & Savior.

            Oh wait…that’s the aggressive Remi we’re talking about here. Never mind.

          • Cecelia

            He wants me to hear his side of things here (at a place he’s been banned) via the alcoholic’s usual way of conscripting enablers, then he’s going to hear me right back. Your aggressive coward can’t block me here as on twitter.

            Your last sentence and his response to my statements about his sobriety are indicative as to why he periodically has to apologize to friend and foe alike for being a drunken jerk in ways he avows as not even remembering.

            You don’t do him any favors.

          • Cecelia

            “…I’ll let Remi know…”

            Please. Though Joe said it was good for him to have been banned here… that he sought that ban out… he reads the posts here more assiduously than you do. And still wants to control every word.

            No one forces him to do that. Certainly no comment on an obscure blog could harm him truly in any way.

            You may like the way his anger tastes now in the heat of an election, but I’d wager you won’t forever unless you’ve an untapped store of it too.

          • Well I may be wrong but to call Megyn Kelly a racist and say her greatest pleasure in life is to denigrate black people strikes me as making it personal. The newshounds seems to think they can repeat this mantra for years but must never be subject to the such criticism themselves. They made their bed but don’t want to lie in it.

          • Michael T

            I think it was our ‘beloved’ Andrea Tantaros…cough…cough…who once observed on The Five how pervasive it is for those in the media to use “racist” when almost always “prejudiced” is the preferrable descriptor.

            The panel expanded on her comment with a brief discussion about the differences between racist, prejudiced and bigoted.

            The Megyn critics may complain about having Mark Fuhrman on to discuss cases involving race…and her white Santa remark, but it’s silly to draw inferences of racism from that.

            If a newshounds column (not a commenter) called her a racist, that has no more place on a blog than does Gatxer calling Ice a racist here at J$P.

          • When did Megyn have Fuhrman on to discuss race?

          • Michael T

            Not necessarily race itself but like I said “cases involving race.”

            As one example, I believe he was her guest more than once in the aftermath of the shooting of Michael Brown.

            Mr. Fuhrman has also made appearances on the Kelly File pertaining to the Travon Martin shooting and after the Baton Rouge and Milwaukee police shootings.

            The website Crooks & Liars takes them task at this link. Obviously, this is the liberal perspective and I would be shocked if anyone here agrees with a single word.

            http://crooksandliars.com/2016/07/megyn-kelly-hosts-mark-fuhrman-more-race

          • Only the shooting of Michael Brown didn’t involve race. It was a self-defense case according to the DoJ.
            A jury found Trayvon Martin’s killer innocent. He wasn’t charged, either locally or by the feds, with any civil rights violations that I am aware of, so unless I’m missing something that case wasn’t about race either.
            The notion that a white shooter + a black victim = a case involving race is no more true than a black shooter + a white victim = a case involving race. A case involves race when it is a motivating factor. Just comparing skin colors is lazy media template thinking.
            As I recall Fuhrman was paired up on most of those LA and WI police shooting hits with a civil rights attorney, usually Andell Brown or Eric Guster. Again I don’t see how this proves Megyn Kelly hates black people. I wonder why they keep coming on her program. Don’t they know there’s nothing she likes better than to attack them because they’re black?

          • Michael T

            “Only the shooting of Michael Brown didn’t involve race.”

            I’m surprised to hear you say that. We usually reach some type of common ground rather quickly.

            Do you not remember it was investigated by the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division? Of course it involved race.

            Perhaps we have semantics differences here.

          • So where are the civil rights charges then? Or are you saying anything the DoJCRD investigates is racial simply because they investigated it ergo it must involve race? I was under the impression that their investigations were to determine if an incident involved race, and if it did to file appropriate charges.

            A coroner looks at a lot of bodies, but they aren’t all homicides because the coroner investigates them. Only the ones that show evidence of homicide.

          • Michael T

            Oh, I get it now.

            I’m talking about racial components in the media coverage (e.g., Whether racism existed in local PD) and you’re talking about legal conclusions about race.

            Peace brother.

          • If you’re saying there are ‘racial components’ to incidents in which race was not a factor, then this is definitely not one of our ‘common ground’ discussions. From my law enforcement experience I have this crazy notion that incidents where there is no indication that the race of the parties was a motivation, are incidents that didn’t involve race. Any more than they involved someone’s middle initial. Peace out!

          • Cecelia

            Just as a jury decided it’s not illegal or even inherently racist to follow a stranger from a distance in your neighborhood. To alert the cops about him as part of a Neighborhood Watch program.

            However, it is illegal for the stranger to get within feet of where he staying and then double back around in order to confront the guy following him by slamming his head into the concrete.

          • Cecelia

            Why would anyone take a news host to task for featuring a guest who had been a part of a racially charged and culturally iconic trial in the midst of another one?

          • Cecelia

            Actually, speaking up for Megyn in the way that Michel T. says he does for Joe and Ice, garners you the status of cult member. It’s even considered an off-topic discussion at JDP though it’s about what’s being said, claimed, and argued about cable news channel culture and a host.

            None of that matters. If you weren’t such a mindless groupie you’d agree with them…

          • Yeah. I’ll try to do better.

          • Larry Kelly

            Oh, this isn’t a private line. Talk and we all join the party at will. Happens in blogs.

          • Michael T

            Oh, no disagreement from me.

            But I am probably one in a very small minority who wishes the site was more welcoming to diverse opinions, so the kind of thread this discussion produced was not so one sided (5 or 6 to 1).

            Media Matters has more variety among the commenters than we do here.

            I’m not saying it’s a major issue. Obviously, I wouldn’t visit the site daily if it was.

            Finally, I hope the ole barber shop you often affectionately refer to is more diverse than J$P or my local Elks Lodge for that matter. 🙂

          • Larry Kelly

            Variety mix, just about right to me. If I want to be challenged repeatedly, I know where to go. I can debate Media Matters people until my eyes glaze over.

          • Cecelia

            Why isn’t Ice asking you to defend his honor?

          • I’m struck by the fact that for years newshounds and its writers have consistently, repeatedly smeared Megyn Kelly and others as racists. He hates black people. Her greatest pleasure is to denigrate a black person. Etc etc etc. I’m talking about the newshounds writers; the comments crank this up to ’11’. So newshounds poison has for years been spread through Google news and parrot sites all over the internet. Yet when someone here suggests that a newshound writer favors targeting black people, not in a blog post but in a comment thread on a site derided as having ‘a dozen readers’, it inspires someone purportedly unconnected with the newshounds to mount a stirring defense. Even though there’s more evidence for that criticism than there is for the notion that Megyn Kelly gets sadistic pleasure for hating black people.

            Just the way I see it. I welcome commenters here of all persuasions, but sometimes I don’t understand the priorities.

          • Cecelia

            It’s telling too how the argument morphs from pointing out to Gaxter that he has no upvotes for his claims about Moe and Ice, to designating general pushback from others as an FNC induced pathology.

            Keep your enemies close, and Fox News as an epithet even closer.

          • gcblues

            a dozen huh? i thought that was proprietary.

          • Shh. Next you’ll be telling everyone what the 11 secret herbs and spices are.

          • gcblues

            so busted.

          • Larry Kelly

            Because stooge honor is a shield, not a badge.

          • Michael T

            Not clear what that is supposed to mean.

            I comment to Gatxer when I know he’s being unfair and inaccurate and Ice thanks me on Twitter some of the time.

            Why would he “ask me to defend his honor” when he knows I am already rebutting the notion that Ice is a racist — which no one except Gatxer has disagreed with.

        • GATXER

          Isn’t that the kind of things that the disgraced stooges say makes us stalkers??

        • Cecelia

          He’s VICE– VOICE of ICE
          SMOE- SPOKESPERSON for MOE

        • GATXER

          BTW: I only let this go on because it’s the end of the day……..sorry I responded so many times….I know it’s a waste of time.

      • GATXER

        You didnt bother to read what I said did you Michael….you just went into defend your friend mode…….I said “people on Fox” so I looked at guess what PEOPLE ON FOX NEWS……of which ICE whined about 24 people of color and just 11 white people who were on Fox. Sounds like most to me…..but maybe my math is off…..is 11 now more than 24?????

        I remind you again that you have a block user button…..if me pointing out that the disgraced stooges tend to complain about people of color more than white hosts or guest I strongly suggest you use it because I’m not going to stop.

        • Michael T

          C’mon Gatxer.

          Where’s your evidence that “ICE whined about 24 people of color and just 11 white people who were on Fox.”

          Fess up — the only people of color were Harris, Beyonce’ and Katrina.

          You’re back in that alternate reality again my friend.

          People can check his timeline and decide for themselves which version is more accurate.

          • GATXER

            How do you not know who I’m talking about if you spent so much time checking?????

            Hint Beyonce wasn’t on FOX……and I didnt include her……I hope people check the disgraced Newshound “writers” TL…..thats why I brought it up……..don’t think they will find yours as the accurate version since you don’t even know who I’m talking about……but thanks for playing.

            READ the disgraced “writers” timeline people…….. yesterday from the time he got up till Hannity show came on…….when I logged on……..posted this………he complained about 24 people who were ON FOX NEWS. were people of color….hosts or guests and just 11 white people…..which is most even in frozen minds

            You have defended ICE now……you can run along and insult this site and me on twitter now right? What a circle jerk you have there.

            #laughingstocks

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            He runs right back there and does his thing. He doesn’t even realize that they probably hold him in the same contempt as they do the rest of us.

          • Michael T

            Yeah, I’m a total puppet to people 20 years younger.

            FYI, in the last 10 days I was unfollowed by Laura (although she later apologized, but didn’t re-follow). And also temporarily unfollowed by Joe Remi when he and I had a heated exchange about whether J$ was justified in using “titalating” to describe the Andrea Tantaros court document.

            Over 90% of what I post here has nothing to do with what I read on their twitter feeds, much of which is anti FNC. Why would I want to post that on a Fox News blog?

            Discussing is my thing…not trolling and toying with other commenters like that troll ”The Real Royal Emperor’ did.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            You could’ve fooled me.

          • Cecelia

            It’s no surprise that you’re not a good enough mouthpiece for them.
            Afterall, you are capable of agreeing with a Fox entity once in awhile or thinking something contradictory to them. That’s not going to fly.
            Knock yourself out correcting the record for these folks.

          • Michael T

            TY Cece.

            I think I am retiring as a defender. This is not the best blog for that as you can tell.

            However, this stubborn German (with a little Irish and French mixed in) will continue to call out Gatxer for fictitiously calling Ice a racist. (Just for fun of course. He’s actually a pretty pleasant dude when arguing a point.)

          • Cecelia

            It’s pretty humorous stuff after you accept the dynamics of the people involved and the absurdity of that endless drama.
            He got the better of your tonight, but tomorrow’s another day.

          • Michael T

            The better of me?

            A gazillion exchanges and neither Gatxer nor his up voting fan Nixon have provided reliable fact-based evidence that made the case that Ice is a racist. Today was particularly fact-free.

            Color me bewildered.

          • Cecelia

            I wasn’t addressing the racism aspect.
            As to that part, it’s my understanding that Gaxter means the bigotry of expectations based upon race. That black people are supposed to see things a certain way and that they’re a whole nother category of wrong when they don’t.. Not true-believers unable to see the obvious like we folks here, but sell-outs.
            He can correct me if I’m wrong and you two can’t argue the racism thing from here to eternity.
            I don’t follow their tweets enough to feel comfortable with being onboard, but I don’t rule it out completely because of the assigning of very egregious motives to other talent at Fox.

          • Michael T

            I believe Gaxter means something different than the the bigotry of expectations based upon race.

            Obviously, he’s free to correct the record.

            He should know though that Ice has never once mentioned Harris’ race. The only personal reference that I recall is saying he was surprised that being the daughter of a military man that she didn’t criticize Trump for insulting POWs. A legitimate question IMO.

            As far as Sheriff David Clarke, he’s a lot like Colonel Allen West in the eyes of most liberals and progressives. They make comments that drive the left crazy.

            Hard to single out Ice for agreeing with the majority of liberals — even if a case can be made by the other side that this is an example of the bigotry of expectations based upon race.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            My upvoting people that I consider friendly or to encourage posting really seems to stick in his crop.

          • Larry Kelly

            Oh, I like to see you try. Just wear your amor. Too many here have been victims of the SCREEN GEMS trio https://youtu.be/d_2bWs8HDHY

          • Michael T

            I would only hope that you would also defend someone who you had established a rapport and a ‘virtual’ friendship with against false accusations…even when seemingly everyone else here hates him.

            How’s that old saying go Larry? “Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.”

  • GATXER

    Ive asked before and never gotten an answer that made sense………..why is it wong for CNN to hire Lewandowski as a contributor and yet Paul Begala runs a Clinton super pac and nobody cares about that?

    Of Course Trump and Lewandowski are close he’s a trump deleage for crying out loud…….IMHO CNN was crazy to hire Lewandowski…..but then I think it crazy to have a guy running a super Pac doing that job also.

  • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

    Not only is Wemple, as usual, full of crap. Andrea Tantaros is showing herself to be absolutely nuts.

    • Larry Kelly

      Wish I recalled ever seeing this woman, but I don’t.

    • Cecelia

      How could you not love a guy who asks you if you’ve frozen your eggs?

      Ailes is a hoot! Come sit by me, Rog!

      Tantaros dresses like Jessica Rabbit and gets upset when a man puts his arm around her waist.

      Where I live the produce dept manager at the grocery store does that up until your 80.

      I don’t know what planet these people live on.

      • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

        Amybody that says something nasty about Dana is permanently on my sh*t list. And I am unanimous in that!

    • It’s amazing Wemple got an entire column out of the nonsensical, ignorant question of why the lawsuit didn’t defend O’Reilly. Answer in one sentence: because O’Reilly isn’t a party to the lawsuit. Wemple just dismisses that and proceeds to pretend like it’s not true, but it is. O’Reilly’s not a defendant; he isn’t being sued. His name was included for the same reasons as the tittilating lurid language and personal references to other Fox personalities: click-bait for the media. (Wemple suggests because other non-defendants did get mentioned O’Reilly’s omission is meaningful. Actually the circumstances of the other allegations fit within the Fox News ambit of responsibility since they are alleged to have happened in the course of Fox News operations while the O’Reilly allegations are not.)

      • Larry Kelly

        That settles it. Wemple out of the running to replace Nancy Grace.

  • Larry Kelly

    TRUMP TWEET TO SICK LITTLE GIRL
    Trump original: Happy Birthday, get well soon.
    CNN Modified: Happy Birthday, bet it’s your last.

  • Larry Kelly

    TWITTER HACKING: I changed my password recently to something unique to Twitter and something very complicated. I’m just a nobody, but sure wouldn’t want that thing hacked.

  • Larry Kelly

    NostradaLarrymus PREDICTION: Weiner dead by inauguration day.

  • Larry Kelly

    Let’s add Trump and Clinton to this and leave the VP candidates to vie for POTUS:
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/the-final-cast-of-dancing-with-the-stars-is-set-and-rick-perry-is-still-in-it/

  • Larry Kelly

    Barbara Streisand has promised to leave the USA if Trump wins. Funny girl. Maybe GC has a fold out couch.

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      I wouldn’t wish her on anybody. Mabye she would prefer Venezuela.

      • Larry Kelly

        She could buy everyone toilet paper and become President.

    • gcblues

      we have an air conditioned visitor’s room, kids banned, still not up to her standards. but\ on the next corner east there is a French Colonial hotel with very few rooms, full kitchen and atrium garden that i am sure would suffice.

      we tend to get backpackers, surfers, religious nuts etc, but the reality is there are first class accommodations and touring available.
      surfing is a heck of a sport to watch. hour west of Rivas.
      https://www.facebook.com/nicaragua365/?notif_t=notify_me_page&notif_id=1472494505795415

      • Larry Kelly

        What’s the hotel room cost?

        • gcblues

          last time i checked $35, could be 50 60 by now. but the visitor room really is just fine.

          • Larry Kelly

            Nice, nice nice!

          • gcblues

            expensive. in 04 a hotel on the Beach was $13, and breakfast 50 cents with fruit and coffee in the mercado. no mas. no more $5 dollar lobster dinners.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            I was going to ask a question about the price of a hooker for Bubba Clinton, but it would be wrong. So I’ll ask for Anthony Weiner.

          • Larry Kelly

            Just phone service.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            “It’s me again, Margaret.”

          • Larry Kelly

            “Carlos?”

          • Larry Kelly

            Nicer still.

          • Cecelia

            You sure? I’ve read that she likes floral wallpaper with bed linen in the same print.

          • gcblues

            i think Pelican Eyes is nicer than the Guanacaste 4 seasons. sure she could rent a bungalow anyway she wanted it.

          • Cecelia

            With the right advance team of designers and attorneys with confidentiality agreements, I think you’re right.

  • Today’s most popular links:
    5 Fox News dominates
    4 O’Whine
    3 CNN doctors
    2 Adam Housley
    And the most popular link in today’s links…
    1 Harris Faulkner twitter hacked.

    • Joe Concha

      Dr. Bronze!

      • Larry Kelly

        Beats not medaling.

      • Grandpa D

        It’s hard to beat two hacked Twitter accounts.

    • GATXER

      wait….the guy who counts the votes won???????

  • gcblues

    tweeted giant banana pics

    • Larry Kelly

      Pretty, but nothing to put on the Raisin Bran 😢

      • gcblues

        i’ll follow with the fruit. i grow Maduros, a type plátano, in costa rica. close relative, same type of plant. if the plant is that big, look at the stalks, could be over 100lbs on one stalk. never grown one that big so i get to be surprised. people asking bout em.

  • GATXER

    I said it before….and will again….the stooges have to dumb down their readers to make their partisan points…..good example today.

    Now I think people who diagnose people with mental problems they haven’t talked to are…..wrong and when Dr. do it it even worst……..that comes from working with people with disabilities……so I know most may not agree.

    So I see this tonight in the disgraced newshound “writer” TL…..

    “FOX complains David Plouffe called Trump psychopath.
    FBN guest Keith Ablow tells Hillary Clinton get a psychologist.”

    Ok….a few problems….1.Keith Ablow is not a guest he’s a contributor….big difference…….oh and 2. it’s not Keith Ablow of course it’s Dr. Ablow…..now why might they leave that out being the Fox News “experts” that they claim to be……..oh yea he’s a psychiatrist…..so it makes their point like most of their others…pure junk. Plouffe has NO medical training so only a partisan could claim his and Ablow statements in the same world.
    Of course as Ive said here before…IMHO I don’t like Ablow and I don’t think he should be doing politics.
    Anything to bash #1 Fox News no matter what the truth is.
    #laughingstocks

  • Cecelia

    If. Trump goes to Mexico, many in the press couldn’t cover it.

    It seems there is some sort of law about passports that they must follow.

    • gcblues

      har har. only recently started requiring a passport. and if you show up with other photo ID you can likely buy a visa for a month or 3, just gotta be cool.

      • Cecelia

        Borders are so gnarly.

        • gcblues

          they are all different. Mexico is just sensible. you can walk across to Nogales and shop all day with no passport. people flying through the USA need a visa to change planes.

          • Larry Kelly

            Nogales trip from Tucson the first time I had ever seen begging (organized, but still). Was unsettling.

          • gcblues

            more respect for the beggars than the welfare office line

          • Larry Kelly

            My next encounter with beggars was on a trip to Philadelphia.

          • gcblues

            Tomi had a hard time accepting people choosing to live the way they do in the USA. In our world here you can do all your schooling, work very hard and still be poor. unless you are hit with a health crisis that was obviously not true in her eyes in the USA. she made a mexican friend, Erika from Colima that had worked 6 years at Dennys, tomi’s fav, and she confided that with tips she always made more than $3,000 a month. when Tomi worked in the zona franca making Gildan shirts she was netting $180 a month. in her mind why they on the street unless they are honestly insane was fairly certain. it is easier than work. there is hope, as the USA becomes more Nica-like and friends and connections as the sole opportunity that improve people’s lives …….oh wait …. maybe i am late.

          • Larry Kelly

            That’s nicely stated.

          • gcblues

            ty, and to the others, i truly and deeply appreciate the people posting about my horrible writing style. jijijiji

          • Cecelia

            You’re welcome.

            I’d like to see us become more Nica-like in that respect and other ways too.

          • gcblues
          • Cecelia

            The WT link ain’t working.

          • gcblues
          • Cecelia

            That’s the great thing about the U.S.and First Ladies.

            We are able appreciate and copy what we like and ignore and dismiss what we don’t.

          • gcblues

            i’ll go out tonight with a super power LED flashlight and see if i can find a woman that doesn’t. take a long while, i imagine.

          • Cecelia

            You won’t here either, but then we don’t have a President who designated his wife as the candidate for an office that makes her the tie-breaker vote in congress.

          • gcblues

            there is none of that nonsense here. the Deputados vote as they are told. there are no ties.

  • Have I mentioned that I was interviewed by Mediaite? It was like a week ago, and nothing has appeared yet. The story isn’t getting any fresher. If they don’t do something with it soon I may have to publish it here.

    • GATXER

      HINTS!!!! We need HINTS!

      I would point out that Tommy C was the guy in charge over the weekend so it wasn’t going to appear then.

      • Well you don’t know, and I don’t know, if it’s a nice article or a not-so-nice article. He might jump at printing one, but not the other. We follow each other on twitter, so I see no reason to think he wouldn’t make a perfectly reasonable decision on whether to publish.

        The subject matter was Andrea Tantaros’s lawsuit and her reference to me in it.

    • Larry Kelly

      I publish once in a while in the Comments Section to rave reviews.

  • GATXER

    I see the disgraced Fox haters are all concerned that BO took another summer vacation……they think it’s connected to AT lawsuit……..which I might buy……if it wasn’t coming from the same nuts that thought a MK vacation was a big deal this year but of course wasn’t..

    #laughingstocks

    • They must be parroting the bilge that Ellen Brodsky has been writing, stuff made up out of thin air based on nothing but maybe a Magic 8-ball. Oh wow, O’Reilly went on vacation in August. Like he did last year. And the year before that.

      • Larry Kelly

        Rules in sucking up:
        1) parrot

  • GATXER

    Well this 45 min of my life I won’t get back…..and I know it’s a waste of time…..if it was 75 post about black people on Fox and 3 white…..he wouldn’t “get” it……….OH well………put it on a old blog page of mine that I had deleted all the old posts…..to save space here.

    going to bed so nitpick away while I sleep stooges.

    http://gatxerspot.blogspot.com

    • Documentation and making a record is never a waste of time. I can recall someone thanking me for a post I did years ago and had completely forgotten because it documented something one of the newshound liars had written that had since been quietly scrubbed and rewritten to cover up their lie.

      • GATXER

        I only meant that if he can’t see it when they spend a whole day….make a ton of posts about Fox News and everyone of them is about a person of color……..he wasn’t going to ever see my point……I only did it because I said I would….I knew he wouldn’t understand.

      • GATXER

        Well you do a service…….but my all time favorite was the post with so many misspellings it looked like it was written by a 2 year old in crayon…….I spit soda out my nose on that one and still have a link to it.

        http://johnnydollar.us/2004a/C1049953760/E20071203193755/

        I would never claim to be a writer…..but if you’re going to have a blog like that…I mean come on.

        • Ah, that is a classic newshound post. And on top of the kindergarten-level grammar and punctuation, it has several proven newshound lies in it to boot. But hey, you can say that about most any hound scribbling.

    • Michael T

      IMO you would have been better served Gatxer to have put a slightly different spin on your argument. (I mean spin in a good way.)

      Using words like Nazi, homophobic, xenophobic and racist to describe someone are emotionally charged and often used hyperbolically and inaccurately in their application. Yes, even when referring to Donald Trump, who I loathe. 🙂

      So obviously you are going to evoke unwanted criticism when you choose to call someone a racist.

      My advise would have been to address Ice about your objections by saying something like the following:

      Has anyone else noticed that there are days on his Twitter feed when Ice (or ‘Head Stooge’, if you prefer) sure seems to direct most of his hostile tweets at people of color on Fox News? It sure looks like cherry picking of black conservatives to me.

    • Michael T

      Good job on your “Things I care about” research. I now see why our numbers of tweets about blacks differed.

      I was rebutting the statement in your OP on J$P when you wrote, “Head stooge who spent most of Monday complaining about black people on Fox.”
      http://disq.us/p/1bep3ev

      But your research includes Ice tweeting about blacks on other cable news channels like MSNBC which you added to the 16 tweets by Ice about blacks on Fox News and Fox Business. Glad that’s cleared up.

      You deserve an ‘E’ for effort. That took a lot of work. Well done sir.

      Now maybe we can end the debate and change the topic.

      Your nearby Chicago Cubs (with the best record in baseball) really do seem like they may finally be on their way to the World Series. I’m sure longtime Cubbies fan Joe Concha hopes so.

      • GATXER

        BTW: contrary to the lie the paranoid dry drunk posted…..I didnt “create” a blog about the disgraced newshound “writer:….I just made a post on a old blog I don’t use anymore….I used it before my sister was on facebook to show her local stories I thought she might be interested in……I only used it a few times……all I did was delete a few posts……………..Nobody here is obsessed with them…..however if they visit this site many times a day……wouldn’t you say they might be obsessed with us?……….and I would also point out that I only posted it to that old blog to save space here…..35 links take up a lot of room……and you were the only one who said I was wrong…..didnt seem fair to everyone else.

        Other than the pastor I don’t see any that were from other news channels….and as I said I also counted accidentally some white people who weren’t on Fox……but my point still stands……..he targets people of color on Fox News over other races. Best example was on 4-20 when he only targeted people of color and NO white people……..now unless you think there was some sort of NAACP meeting going on at Fox News that day….doesn’t that seem weird to you?0

        You can see a cached version of my old blog here.

        http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_D9IDR3pqKQJ:gatxerspot.blogspot.com/2008/06/movie-theater-hotel-are-coming.html+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

        Oh and i see the disgraced “writer” is still RT fake trump posts from a Fake Trump account……..with out telling his poor readers….not much honesty in that now is there?

        • still RT fake trump posts from a Fake Trump account……..with out telling his poor readers

          Now that is funny. And very, very newshounds.

          • GATXER

            You what even funnier? The disgraced newshounds are so paranoid about us that they are going back to a two day old thread to see what we are saying about them……..also my blog post got more views that you would imagine a link on a thread 2 days old could get.

          • Michael T

            I noticed they are claiming the so-called fake Trump account clearly states it’s a ‘parody’ account in his/her bio or Twitter profile.

            So no wonder it has 18K followers.

            I totally missed that earlier between doing laundry and reading Twitter and two blogs.

            Oh well.

          • GATXER

            Yet you clearly missed that it was a parody account. You have to click on the Fake Trumpers account go to the main page to see that message……otherwise it looks just like the real one.

            That dishonest IMHO………..you know I can’t stand Trump and agree with most of what ICE post about Trump…..which is why you don’t see me complain about them much………I do find anybody who’s typed #neverTrump more than 10 times to be a nut…………I just find it Newshounds type dishonest to not point out you are RT a parody account………

            I posted the two next to each other…..this is all the Disgraced “writer” readers see………just how easy is it for them to know which one is real and which is fake????

            http://gatxerspot.blogspot.com

          • Michael T

            The Twitter account delineations for Trump gets to be a bit much at times, don’t they?

            So far I’ve seen 5 Trump Twitter account categories discussed:

            1. The valid account
            2. The fake accounts
            3. The parody accounts
            4. The valid account using an Android is Trump.
            5. The valid account using an iPhone is an assistant.

            Kinda funny actually.

          • GATXER

            When I did a search for the REAL trump account in the search Box about 5 came up and I had to try 2 times to get the right one.

            I don’t object to RTing the fake account……I just think he’s being very dishonest not pointing out that it’s a fake one………of course he writes for the disgraced Newshounds so its expected.

        • Michael T

          Good catch re the fake Trump Twitter account — presumably one letter is incorrect.

          I tried to find it last time you mentioned it. But as you can imagine that kind of thing is hard to Google.

          Do you have a link or can you provide the misspelling of Trump’s real Twitter account?

          • GATXER

            Look for the trump RT that do not say verified like this one.

            https://twitter.com/realDenaldTrump/status/771397989256556544

            Now here’s a real Trump Tweet.

            https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/771481226578460672

            See the verified check mark……….don’t you think ICE is being dishonest in not pointing out to his poor readers that that isnt a real Trump RT?????

            This isnt a new thing he’s been retweeting this account and the real one for weeks………in fact he RT the fake one and the real one last week in the same hour so he must know.

          • Michael T

            That’s just crazy.

            The account “realDenaldTrump” — yes Donald spelled with an ‘e’ has 18K followers — or gullibles, whichever applies.