Sep 272016
 
  • Monday numbers: Debate/CNN  Debate/FNC  PostDebate/FNC 1-2-3.
  • Q3 numbers: Fox #1, viewership sets records; CNN, MSNBC improve.
  • Out# videos: Bret Baier et al size up the debate
  • Megyn Kelly salutes Don Lemon, as Judge Judy pays tribute to Megyn.
  • Klein: Fox, the ‘Never-Trump Network‘.  ICN: Fox, the Trump Network.
  • Ariens: FNC, CNN share honors for debate night.  Q&A: Chris Stirewalt.
  • Concha: Holt emerges from debate ‘bruised and partisan‘; record ratings.
  • HuffPo: See, moderators can fact-check.  Politico: Holt kept out of the way.
  • Kelly File videos: Kurtz says pundit panel
  • Greta honored for ‘fairness and honesty‘.  Martin Bashir resurfacesFlashback.
  • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

    Mabye Bashir will make coprophagic comments about Her Majesty and end up in the tower.

    • Larry Kelly

      Is there a religion with the sacrament of pooping? BBC has the Correspondent.

      • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

        Birdism.

        • gcblues

          optimistic trumpers: wih all this poop i know if just dig enough there has to be a pony in here somewhere.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Unlike Bashir, they don’t want to poop in anyone’s mouth. He is one sick puppy.

          • gcblues

            see above. who the heck do u think taught the Romans debauchery?

          • Larry Kelly

            UMmm… I’ll take “Country that begins with G” for $200, Alex.

          • gcblues

            western civ’s birthers.

          • Larry Kelly

            Boats. Built damn good boats. Trade… that was the ticket, baby.

    • gcblues

      saving everyone else the effort.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophagia

      Coprophagia /kɒp.rə.ˈfeɪ.dʒi.ə/ or coprophagy /kəˈprɒfədʒiː/ is the consumption of feces. The word is derived from the Greek κόπρος copros, “feces” and …

      • Larry Kelly

        See “beagle”. Canis’turdeatis^.

        • gcblues

          farm dogs follow cows and eat poop, is that what we are reduced to, Gringlolandia is just going away.

          • Larry Kelly

            Not my farm doog.

          • gcblues

            likely behind your back before he smothers you w/ kisses. yum yum yum…lol

          • Larry Kelly

            Not a face-licking doog.

          • gcblues

            please forgive me, but you threw a fat pitch.
            ….”try smearing a little poop on your lips, he might come around”
            ouch
            i hate me

          • Larry Kelly

            I press the damn down-arrow thingy and I get nothing… bumpkis. Johnny?

          • gcblues

            jijijijiji

  • Larry Kelly

    Word is that Lester Holt got his marching orders and followed them:
    http://heatst.com/politics/lester-holt-the-third-debater/

    • gcblues

      it was so bad. nothing either of them said was true or relevant. lester may have received orders but trump acquiesced. as the quotes get looped ad infinitum i think he is on the road to Waterloo with no change.
      too funny. my trump couple friends posted how trump slaughtered hillary. tell me you are a trumper simply as a defensive vote i get it. tell me he is incredible wonderful and will teach (**(&s and flush out the crooks and on and on.#scary

      • Larry Kelly

        Didn’t watch. Don’t know. Don’t care. Him or Hillary? Make a choice or whine.

        • gcblues

          for one of the first times in history whining will produce a better result than voting. Boycott the vote!

          • Larry Kelly

            And……. what is this better measure of which you speak?

          • gcblues

            good question and there is no good answer. i won’t blow smoke. however, if no one voted or the turnout went down to 30s in % due to utter disgust i fail to see how that would be worse than either of these 2 which we will be saddled with no matter you do with your ballot.

          • Larry Kelly

            For that to make a lick of sense you have to rate them equally bad. If that’s not the case:
            1) hold nose
            2) vote
            3) then, whine your heart out.

          • gcblues

            not equally bad. there is another rational view i have posted before. we do not know which will be worse, only that both are even worse than Barrack and that is a very sad truth. depending on world circumstance and congressional make up there are many scenarios where each could be worse. how much worse? somewhere between doubling debt and the literal end of the world. true?

          • Larry Kelly

            Use your best judgement and not back away — or others will make the decision without you having a say. That’s what Nix and I are doing. LIke Butch and Sundance we have decided and are talking the plunge. I can’t swim, but the fall will probably kill us.

          • gcblues

            sorry, suicide pacts are not part of my repertoire. if it changes i’ll let you know. i have never not voted, but then again before odummy care i had never not owned health insurance. today, i have never felt so liberated.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Trump may be a lot of things: http://beforeitsnews.com/mediadrop/uploads/2016/34/cc02911656921f72ab8e0bae588e697c80a71fed.png But at least he’s not Madame Clinton, The Butcher of Benghazi.

          • gcblues

            really could care less about their past except has what it has to do with what they can do, will do and might do. no clear worst loser to me.
            revenge has always served me poorly.

          • Larry Kelly

            Try serving it cold. Best that way.

          • gcblues

            i understand the adage but to me i find no satisfaction with it.

          • Larry Kelly

            The most satisfying thing is most always forgiveness.

          • gcblues

            i will wait for that from you then ….lol

          • Larry Kelly

            I’m never satisfied.

          • gcblues

            you won’t be satisfied until you breakkkkk my heart, your never satisfied until the teardrops start.
            scored in Fm, intro starts in Ebm
            this is a hokie version.
            https://chordify.net/chords/you-wont-be-satisfied-until-you-break-my-heart-cover-yakir-dorani
            origonal like this if you want to play with ella and louis,
            Chords

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            Chorus
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            Bridge
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          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Her actions as Secretary of State are a clear indicator of her abilities (or lack thereof).

          • gcblues

            it is all relative. possibly niether pig wears perfume.

  • Gatxer Avenger

    Re: “Kelly File videos: Kurtz says Holt helped Hillary”

    It was interesting that FNC’s Stirewalt & Kelly made some of the same observations as CNN’s Axelrod and Tapper.

    • Trump did very well (especially on trade) in the first 20-30 minutes then somehow lost his way and missed several scoring opportunities.
    • Trump lost the debate overall.
    • Don’t underestimate how much Trump will improve in next debate.
    • Howard Kurtz made an issue of Holt interrupting Trump more than Clinton. Stirewalt, Kelly, Axelrod and Tapper seemingly didn’t think it was an issue worth discussing – although Stirewalt did make the point that some of the interruptions were because Trump wouldn’t answer the question(s).

    Next presidential debate on Sunday, October 9th in St. Louis – five days after the VP debate in Virginia.

  • Larry Kelly
    • Gatxer Avenger

      Can you hardly wait for how ABC’s The View and FNC’s Outnumbered spin this?

      I didn’t think so? 🙂

      On the one hand you have Republicans Frank Luntz (and his group16-6), Brit Hume and Dana Perino saying Clinton won. You also have reports that even inside the Trump campaign there were expressions of disappointment.

      OTOH, you have Michael Moore, several snap polls and a CNBC poll showing Trump won. BTW, has there ever been a post debate snap poll at Drudge or Time that Trump didn’t win?

      • gcblues

        snap polls are not polls they are gossip.

        • Gatxer Avenger

          Even more so with the rise of social media where aggressive activists for certain candidates can conduct a quite successful get out the vote for [name a snap poll].

          Some might ask why can’t Trump’s opponents (Primary and/or Presidential) do the same thing? My answer would be because no candidate has the passionate followers filling football stadiums as he has.

        • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

          I always confuse them with snap peas.

          • gcblues

            snap peas have substance.

          • Cecelia

            ummm…Good with almonds and bacon.

          • Online polls aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on.

    • Grandpa D

      I didn’t watch last night and am trying to avoid any “morning after” bloviating. Also not clicking any link with the word “debate” in the URL.

      • Larry Kelly

        Then I won’t tell you who won. One did though. Knocked it out of the park. HIt a Hofstra student killing her.

  • sky303

    I think Holt did a good job , he stayed out of it mostly and let them have at it , though the timings got messed up. Though people with their views heavily invested in the candidates or sides will either think he did the best job in the world or the worst eve ,but I think he did a good job over all.

    • gcblues

      his aid for one or the other was not determinative of outcome, if anything people used his performance to reinforce their own views. anyway you slice or dice it his follow ups were more vigorous on one than the other, predictable after the laur deal. however, that assumes people are stupid moo cows unable to see their own interest. something i hear a lot about from dems wondering why poor people vote republican. maybe cuz they do not want to remain poor? who knows?

      • sky303

        agreed , the candidates are the main part of the outcome.
        People have picked their sides , Holt had the hard part of trying not play into what the hard line side takers wanted him to do to make the other candidate they don’t support look bad.

        • gcblues

          didn’t seem to have a problem asking questions that have nothing to do with the job, seems he shilled as designed. doubt it worked. may backfire. but he shilled like a pro.

    • Gatxer Avenger

      I do find it interesting that some of the same people who were defending Matt Lauer against charges he was too easy on Trump are now criticizing Lester Holt with charges he was biased against Trump and “emerges from the debate bruised and partisan.”

      I suppose it all depends on whose ox is being gored.

      • sky303

        The Lauer thing was 1 hr for 2 Candidates (30 minutes each) so there was no time to aggressively push anything while taking peoples questions.
        But yeah it’s a team mentality , either on the team or against the team.

        • Cecelia

          I don’t agree. It’s not my intention to be critical of Holt by saying that had Holt’s treatment of the candidates been reversed, you would have seen far more criticism and anger from his peers than you see now.

          Lauer was absolutely excoriated by his own media elite for not challenging Trump about his Iraq claim.

          • sky303

            That’s true if it was him pressing more on Clinton there would have been a lot of backlash because that’s what happens now , like with Lauer, whom I believe did an alright job (B+ ) with both candidates ,but he got excoriated by his peers because apparently he was supposed be the Trump attack dog or something in their eyes.

    • homemaker

      Howie Kurtz said Holt interrupted Trump 41 times whiles only interrupting Clinton only 7 times. A few of Trump’s times were because he went over time. Still cutting back a few of those it sure looks fishy to me.

      Also mentioned were how many follow-up questions were to Trump versus Clinton. Once again Trump had substantially more than Clinton.

      Glad I did not watch.

  • sky303

    Martin Bashir for some reason has resurfaced and someone hired him woah.

  • Larry Kelly

    NYT
    Dear Times Reader,
    He lied about the loan his father once gave him.
    He lied about his company’s bankruptcies.
    He lied about his federal financial-disclosure forms.
    He lied about his endorsements.
    He lied about “stop and frisk.”
    He lied about “birtherism.”
    He lied about New York.
    He lied about Michigan and Ohio.
    He lied about Palm Beach, Fla.
    He lied about Janet Yellen and the Federal Reserve.
    He lied about the trade deficit.
    He lied about Hillary Clinton’s tax plan.
    He lied about her child-care plan.
    He lied about China devaluing its currency.
    He lied about Mexico having the world’s largest factories.
    He lied about the United States’s nuclear arsenal.
    He lied about NATO’s budget.
    He lied about NATO’s terrorism policy.
    He lied about ISIS.
    He lied about his past position on the Iraq War.
    He lied about his past position on the national debt.
    He lied about his past position on climate change.
    He lied about calling pregnancy an “inconvenience” for employers.
    He lied about calling women “pigs.”
    He lied about calling women “dogs.”
    He lied about calling women “slobs.”

    So… who won the debate?

    Why the better liar, Hillary … depending on what your definition of won is. OR who is. OR debate is. OR so is.

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      Or, is is.

  • Larry Kelly

    Mika Brzezinski Is Forced to Admit: Hillary Clinton Won the Debate, But…
    (MEDIAITE)
    “I just wouldn’t be surprised if he came out doing better in the polls after this,” she admitted with a hint of glimmering defeat.

  • gcblues

    well it is easy to see who won, market up, oil and gold crushed. heck of a poll.

    • gcblues

      oil service and all energy down, big corps like PH and ETN up. they are exporting flow control parts for factories build world wide so clinton wins they win.

  • Gatxer Avenger

    The four broadcast networks were up 22% vs. 2012 in initial ratings.

    So simple math suggests the total (10 channels?) might be close to 85M, but nowhere near the
    100M some were predicting. (If 2012 drew 67M, then a 22% increase would be 67+15 or 82M.)

    Cable ratings should be available soon since it’s already past noon on the east coast.

    • gcblues

      that is because another 40 million saw it streamed, repeated in their own time or watched clips.

      • Gatxer Avenger

        Don’t know about 40M.

        But you’re right. A lot of peeps watched in other than live on their TV.

      • GATXER

        And people like me just downloaded it to our computer to watch when we get around to it.

        I dont know who won last night but I know who lost……..the American people

        • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

          I haven’t watched one since Reagan-Mondale.

          • GATXER

            I dont think Ive missed one since Reagan-mondale…….Im a nerd. I watched ALL primary debates but one town hall I didnt know about on MSNBC till the next day this year…….I enjoy them for the most part……but not ONE has ever changed my mind……I was looking for a reason to vote for one of the liars this year………not one debate helped. I decided early and never changed my mind.

            I wouldn’t be excited to vote for HRC or Trump if they made me their VP………..dont see anything that’s going to change that.

          • gcblues

            seguro

          • gcblues

            was it not you that pumped the wash prof predictor or has my memory failed along with everything else.

          • GATXER

            No I dont think so….not sure what you are talking about…….I remember us discussing some prof who said Sander was going to win who had called every race since 1960 or something during the primary……….is that who you’re talking about?

            Unfortunately he was wrong.

          • gcblues

            sorry thought he called trump like the wash prof w/ the also perfect record. be glad Bernie is down the road at the final beach house with moo moo mommy:)

          • Gatxer Avenger

            Any more serious health issues for Hillary and perhaps Western Illinois University could still keep their streak of predicting every presidential winner since 1975 alive. (I’m only half kidding.)
            http://firebrandleft.com/university-100-accuracy-record-predicts-bernie-sanders-will-americas-next-president/

          • Larry Kelly

            Bush-Kerry was my last full, live debate watch.

  • The newshounds writers who rarely miss an opportunity to call Megyn Kelly a racist will find their heads exploding of her longtime friendship with Don Lemon. So they’ll just pretend it doesn’t exist.

    • Gatxer Avenger

      Other unexpected (even strange in some cases) cross channel (or network) friendliness.

      Don’t hold me to 100% accuracy on these.

      • Rachel Maddow’s seemingly friendly relationship (at least in the past) with Roger Ailes.
      • Sally Kohn speaking well of how warm and friendly Sean Hannity was to her when she was at Fox News.
      • CBS CEO Les Moonves was reported to have a somewhat close relationship with Roger Ailes, even meeting for lunch occasionally.
      • Don Lemon saying he watches the Kelly File on a pretty regular basis.
      • Megyn also earned praise from liberals such as Chris Matthews, Joy Behar, and Gayle King.

    • GATXER

      Didn’t help BO that he and sharpton went out to dinner often before he got a job at MSNBC………but Ive been told that if you have friends or followers who are black you can’t be racist……so my guess will be it doesn’t exist……or isn’t a real friendship.

      • gcblues

        lo siento, but that is sick.

        • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

          GC, those freaks over there are real pips. But their sheets are nice and white.

      • Cecelia

        I doubt any adult who has ever been in the workforce would be surprised that professionals of varying politics, religions, outlooks, whether competitors or not, would be friends.

        They share a similar drive and temperament, as well as interests, and pressures.

  • gcblues

    energy getting slammed. there is your poll.

    • Larry Kelly

      Trump rules!

      • gcblues

        if he had energy would not have tanked. only a couple of MLPs held due to dividends, AEP of ohio got slammed, COP, SU SLP, UTG a utility fund, all sectors in energy except 2 of my dividend MLPS got slammed on a day ETN and PH higher than the dow or S&P. what do eaton and parker do? they make their primary profits as the 2 world leaders in flow control. now most people won’t say wow, until you try to build a factory without it. clinton won, the exporters won and energy lost. money walking and coming, best poll on earth.

        • Larry Kelly

          Hillary rules!

          • gcblues

            today’s markets, yes.the donating funds felt she was a winner. they shorted energy more and bought big dow internationals.

  • Gatxer Avenger

    I’m kinda busy so I only watched the first segment of Outnumbered.

    But I must congratulate them on the opening extended video clip from last night’s debate.

    They could have been biased and showed mostly video from the first 20-30 minutes, when the consensus was Trump was at his best.

    But instead they showed some of HRC’s finest moments along with some of DT’s.

  • Today’s most popular links:
    5 picks winners
    4 tribute to Megyn
    3 Megyn Kelly salutes
    2 resurfaces
    And the most popular link in today’s links…
    1 Concha: Holt emerges from debate ‘bruised and partisan’.

    • Larry Kelly

      Concha with the win… smokin’!

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      Another great piece by Concha.

  • Larry Kelly

    Actually, I think Bashir was always on the surface… floating.

  • Larry Kelly

    Now for something completely different, a baby with three buttocks… or some such thing:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/three-parent-baby-world-first-born-mexico-a7333191.html

    • gcblues

      oh those Brits. still exporting i see.

      • Larry Kelly

        Momma, papa, and Uncle Fester.

        • gcblues

          the UK exports products and services not people. hell they are too drunk to even reproduce.

          • Larry Kelly

            Richard Quest was cloned?

    • You might get a chuckle out of an ICN moron who apparently believes that Megyn Kelly and Chris Wallace were hired after the end of the ‘Ailes reign’. Sometimes you just can’t make this stuff up, which is what the haters who never watch Fox do every time they discuss the subject.

      • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

        I guessed the name before I even looked. Larry called him “Porno Cat,” since he named himself after Fritz the Cat.

        • Larry Kelly

          One of the few posters in the potato patch.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Another posts under three names. Praises one name under another. Everybody needs a hobby, I guess.

          • Larry Kelly

            Some need a psychiatrist.

        • Son of Blackflon

          Fritz could sue for punitive damages

  • Gatxer Avenger

    Nice column Joe Concha.

    Good touch pointing out that only 1/4th of the country watched 2016 debate vs, 1/3rd of the country in 1980.