Jan 212017
 
  • MediaBuzz videos: Spicer
  • Reliable Sources videos: Trump declares war; Brian Fallon; 50 questions.
  • CNN refused to air Spicer briefing: press’s role ‘different under Trump‘.
  • Special Report videos: Reactions to and Trump
  • Mild mannered F&F host ‘Shut up and do some work.’
  • Clean sweep: FNC inauguration coverage #1, tops cable and broadcast.
  • Concha: CNNer likens rioters to Boston Tea PartyF-bombs fly at march.
  • Video: give their takes on Trump’s inaugural address.
  • Paskin: CNN couldn’t hide its ‘deep anxiety‘ over Trump’s dystopic vision.
  • Chu: CNN charges against Crowley a ‘heavily exaggerated, political hit-job‘.
  • Fox contributors no longer: Will, Dash, Ed Rollins, Cal Thomas, Marvin Kalb.
  • Your Buzz videos: Jim bringing
  • Zurawik: TV’s winning formula for the inauguration.  Sunday talkers: preview.
  • Larry Kelly

    Z in a nutshell: cable news is best when talking heads aren’t talking. It’s the event, stupid.

  • gcblues

    Fox contributors no longer: Will.
    Will is right, and BOR’s response to Will was Trumpean in his emotional illogical tirade.

    • Michael T

      Megyn & Will gone

      Hume & Perino joined the bubble…less critical of Trump.

      How long can FNC rebut charge they are now Trump TV?

      Great for the regular viewers (and the ratings)…but you have to wonder how Murdock and son’s will feel as the criticism is bound to continue and even increase.

      • Cecelia

        Oh, great. Creepy Clown is back.

        You would think that with a media that loathes Pres. Trump both personally and politically, to the tune of calling him Hitler on the air, likening his child to a budding mass murderer, and his son-in-law to a revenge driven Dr. Evil/Robber Barron, that “less critical” would be a little relative at this point.

        You have all these other channels ready and willing to rip to shreds their own traditions under the premise that the fate of our nation hangs in the balance, and to do it while justifying themselves with a grandiosity AND pettiness that would have likely made Alinsky and Lenin uncomfortable.

        Sure it’s a question now of which entity is going to be more self-indulgent, the media or the Trump Administration, but surely you could follow all those other channels,…and that’s all the rest of them,…and get your fill of lefty logic and open-mindedness.

        Or not.

        • Larry Kelly

          I’m told SNL ended another scathing anti-Trump episode with a dead serious two cast members singing THANK YOU to a stately portrait of Obama. I’m told that, not a witness. Hardly an island in the vast ocean of television where Trump get anything close to a fair shake, yet the nutcases are still not content.

          • Cecelia

            That this is an accurate summation of who they can credit for their liberal political fortunes is an irony these geniuses miss.

        • gcblues

          All the media including fns and the posters here will soon hate Chump the crony capitalist. Having Chump say what you want to hear no matter how stupid are the words of a wh@re. Oh baby, i love you, you make me feel so good. MT is a deranged creepy clown, but at least he is not got a brown nose like all the Chumpettes. Oh he believes in god now, lower taxes too. ok, sure. you all believe because you wish, not because of the reality star’s real ability or even what he says. you just ignore his BS and pretend he loves something other than himself. HA!

          • Cecelia

            I have a feeling that the rest us here share a wee little patch of common ground with Michael T, just as you say you do.

            We’re all thinking ‘who is HE calling deranged’ right along with him.

          • gcblues

            rationality!!! unbelievable. rare commodity. Thank you.

          • Cecelia

            Stick it where the sun don’t shine.

          • gcblues

            i was wrong again, only nuts in the bowl.

          • Cecelia

            Those first four words are your middle name.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            No, he is a backstabber who trashes us elsewhere.

          • gcblues

            Chump?

          • Michael T

            Nixon is referring to me.

            No apologies George. I come here (mostly) to discuss — not to start arguments.

            I save my more harsh or partisan criticisms of Donald Trump and a few shows and hosts (e.g., Bolling & Hannity) on Fox News for Twitter — mostly with people I want to discuss or share my similar views with.

            If that makes me a two-faced backstabber, so be it. Mostly Here at J$P I try to bounce views off others and solicit opinions about cable news. It doesn’t always work. Some are too often lurching and ready to pounce. 🙂

          • gcblues

            thought he was talking about Chump.

          • Larry Kelly

            Left me for dead in the desert looking like a Chicago Cutlery butcher block, but rescued by Nixon. That’s when I decided to wear a mask and reopened pa Kelly’s old silver mine to do some reloading.

          • Cecelia

            That wasn’t you on tv Friday removing the windows of a DC Starbucks?

          • Larry Kelly

            don’t know who that masked man was and don’t want to thank him

        • Michael T

          Good points.

          One small example of what my concern is:
          • MSNBC didn’t do a very good job exposing the warts as well as the benefits of Obamacare.
          • My concern is that when you have a news channel so biased as both MSNBC and FNC are your viewers will get a biased mostly uncritical portrayal of Trump’s trade policies and his ultimate tax plan.

          Will Fox News be as critical as they need to be like NRO and the WSJ have been about some Trump issues?

          Perhaps they will. Let’s hope so.

          • gcblues

            Comparing MSLSD and FNS is like comparing a homeless occupy guy to a functional human being. Nothing in common other than arms, legs etc.

          • Cecelia

            I dont agree with you at all about the media exposing the warts in the ACA.

            “The Lie of the Year” in which videos of ACA architect Jonathan Guber was caught several times laughing at his subterfuge in misrepresenting the policy’s particulars was discovered by a conservative organization.

            The media spent little time on ACA coverage other than to cheerlead it.

            “Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” says the MIT economist who helped write Obamacare. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

            http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/09/caught-camera-Obamacare-architect-admits-deceiving-americans-pass-law/

            Had the media bothered to truly look into the matter rather than worrying about criticism giving aid to opponents of the plan, they would have seen the subterfuge among those formulating the policy, and the disorganization, ineptitude, and infighting going on among those contracted with rolling out the technical framework of enrollment.

            As it was, it was a disaster that no president other than the first black one could have emerged relatively unscathed. Particularly. when said president had told the senate committee that he had done his job in proposing it, so it was up to them to write it.

            After the technical problems, the ever-handsoff-president repeated that mantra by saying that the rollout part hadn’t been his job either.

            Had the media researched and investigated the program, it might have lit a fire that saved the plan from the problems that occurred.

            ALL the media dislike that aspect of journalism now. It doesn’t garner ratings, it’s easier and more fun to focus on gaffs and character assassination.

            There will be an increased appetite for investigation now that a Republican is in office, and one they particularly loathe.

            Donald Trump may herald the return of journalism.

            This last election has shown how out of touch the MSM is with a large swath of the country. A bubble that would be made all the more apparent and alarming if even 50% of the hinterland folks they designated as Hillary supporters had been spouting the vicissitudes of Fake News…

            Stop worrying about people not watching CBS, or CNN, or reading the New York Times. You’re going to have your hands full gaging whether all these media outlets are playing you via their varying interest in the whole story, nuance, or a less than realistic tone and tenor in their approach to particular things.

            You’ve got more than enough on your plate, if you’ve a mind to worrying about a monolithic cultural collective, rather than two you deem as outliers.

          • Michael T

            “I dont agree with you at all about the media exposing the warts in the ACA.”

            But I didn’t say that. What I said was because of MSNBC’s bias they didn’t scrutinize it as much as I would have liked.

          • Cecelia

            None of them did.

          • Michael T

            Some less so than others.

            But let’s not get off topic. The issue I was raising was how cable news bias can impact coverage, misleading their viewers.

            I just picked ACA coverage at random as the first example that popped in my head. A better example may have been the MSNBC coverage of Ferguson where even Joe Scarborough criticized his own network for biased coverage.

            Sorry I wasn’t more precise.

          • Cecelia

            And you had an entire panel on CNN raising their hands in the bogus “stop don’t shoot” meme.

            You had tons of outrage and editorials within the MSM citing leaked unsubstantiated eyewitness reports against a police officier.

            Reports that were debunked by the Obama DoJ. The same report stated that they could find no evidence of wrongdoing committed by the officier.

            How many groups and liberal media members are still citing that fake news?

            Same wuth the coverage of the Trayvon Martin spectacle where the prosecution’s own witnesses undermined its case.

            The hoodie memes still prevail within the MSM.

          • ramjet

            John Dickerson last year on “Face the Nation” said “Michael Brown’s murder.”

          • Cecelia

            They’ve written that fake news in stone.

          • ramjet

            Dickerson said it AFTER the Obama DOJ cleared the policeman.

          • Cecelia

            I can’t find a mention of this online.

          • ramjet

            I’m not surprised. I couldn’t believe my ears so I ran the video back to double and triple check.

          • ramjet

            OCT 25, 2015 Face the Nation transcript:
            “He (Comey) suggested that police across the country may be more reluctant to crack down on crime because of what is the so-called Ferguson effect, named after the Michael Brown murder in Ferguson, Missouri.”- John Dickerson

          • ramjet
          • Cecelia

            Thanks, Roger.
            You’d think they’d have rejoiced that it hadn’t been “murder”.

            Nah.

          • gcblues

            i dug out the quote so others would not have to. This after the DOJ report exonerating the officer?
            DICKERSON: Let me ask you this.

            Governor of New Jersey, you deal with police and crime issues. FBI Director James Comey said something interesting. He suggested that police across the country may be more reluctant to crack down on crime because of what is the so-called Ferguson effect, named after the Michael Brown murder in Ferguson, Missouri. Do you see any of that in New Jersey, that reticence, because it’s now become such a politicized issue?

            CHRISTIE: I don’t see it in New Jerse

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Dickerson is one reckless mother.

  • Cecelia

    Has dystopia replaced normalizing in the Philosophizing for Dummies media herd book?

    • gcblues

      you noticed this word achieving renewed popularity? I had rarely seen it’s use before the left and right rise in populism.

      • Mitch Alan

        The other new buzzword is “conflate”. Use that word at a cocktail party and your perceived IQ goes up 25 points.

        • Larry Kelly

          I still shudder every time I hear “zero sum game”.

          • Mitch Alan

            You’re conflating the two.

          • Larry Kelly

            if so, between the two of us, it’s been a zero sum game, but I conflate.

    • Larry Kelly

      too many liberals liked Hunger Games and its 100 rip-offs.

      • Cecelia

        Yeah, Kalb and Ted Koppell do tend to make something as innocuous as “My nose is running” sound like its down from Mt. Olympus.

      • Grandpa D

        I’m waiting for the Crosby/Hope/Lamour rip-off – “The Road to Dystopia”.

  • Cecelia

    I like Marvin Kalb.

    • Larry Kelly

      too pompous for me

      • Cecelia

        Yeah, Kalb and Ted Koppell do tend to make something as innocuous as “My nose is running” sound like its down from My. Olympus.

  • gcblues

    Paskin: CNN couldn’t hide its ‘deep anxiety‘ over Trump’s dystopic vision.
    Interestly before the end of Odummy among the sanders people the word dystopian and all it’s word endings suddenly became popular. Where was this word when the chaotic welfare state was built and designed to replace families with the state?

  • Mitch

    Stacey Dash was amazing. They dumped her for Megyn McCain? Give me a break!

    • GATXER

      Dash went back to making movies…….doubt she had time for a daily TV show.

  • Mitch

    Someone forgot to tell Ed Rollins that he is no longer a Fox contributer. He is scheduled for Maria’s show tomorrow. Will he be given the hook?

  • ojfl

    The loss of Will is the loss of wisdom and logic, just because he was ardently against Trump? That may seem like a winning formula in the short run but not in the long sequence of events that will unfold now.

    • The last time I saw Will it was on Fox News Sunday. He looked tired, he sounded old, his voice had a weak, uncertain quality to it. I thought how much he had changed since the guy who used to spar with Sam Donaldson. He definitely was not the incisive presence he once was. I’m going to suggest the failure to renew his contract may well be simply because his fast ball isn’t what it used to be.

      • Mitch Alan

        Will has a personal peeve about Trump, went crazy and left the Republican Party. For what? Makes no sense because he loves establishment GOPers like Pence and Ryan.

        They need to get rid of all these really old pundits who are well past their prime.

        I know this is heresy, but I would like to see a lot less of Charles Krauthammer, who voted against Trump, and is now trying to appear relevant.

        • Cecelia

          Krauthammer will always be relevant

        • TheMightyINB

          We know. Anyone who didn’t expressly fluff Trump, you want gone.

          Hello echo chamber.

          • Mitch Alan

            Who needs an anti Trump conservative?

          • gcblues

            i’ll try to recall this post after a few “deals” are made so i can cite it back to you like people cite my errors. Holding people accountable is always fair.

          • TheMightyINB

            Humanity?

          • Larry Kelly

            I’m happy and confident that the Special Report panel will hold Trump feet (small?) to the fire.

      • Cecelia

        i think that must have been the thinking with Cal Thomas too.

        • Larry Kelly

          Went downhill fast after losing the mustache.

  • jrd

    MSNBC and CNN are both giving a lot of air time to the Women’s March (while several of their female reporters were wearing pink). I was planning on asking if anyone knew if FNC was covering the march at all when I saw a short report on FOX about the rallies.
    Kristen Welker was one of the females on MSNBC wearing a pink scarf while anchoring earlier. She has changed the pink scarf for a non-pink one.

    • GATXER

      CNN even has one of its hosts as one of the speakers at the Trump Protest March.

      #notanewsnetwork

      • jrd

        IMO, Van Jones [or Sean Hannity or Joy Reid] is not a reporter, so that doesn’t bother me. I sent emails to both MSNBC and CNN asking why they had reporters wearing pink.

        • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

          Van Jones is a Communist (with a big C) SOB.

          • Larry Kelly

            in Russia, all Communists have big C’s

      • I don’t get my nose too out of joint over contributors playing in politics outside their tv jobs, because they are hired to take positions and defense/oppose candidates. However the Van Jones thing is a little touchy because CNN brags ‘we don’t do opinion’. So what is an opinion contributor doing hosting a news show?

        The other angle on it is that a certain News Hound liar decided to make a big stink out of Pete Hegseth doing a segment on F&F (an opinion show) where he’s interviewing a bunch of voters and allegedly letting them do or leading them in a cheer for Trump. Well he’s an opinion guy who supports Trump, that’s no big deal. But the News Hounds lie that he’s a host (he was simply doing a segment from a remote location, he was not hosting the show) and then use that to justify Rachel Maddow anchoring inauguration coverage (which is supposed to be news coverage, not Rachel’s free-association all-night opinion fest).

        So I don’t mind giving Van a little jazz. It’s a drop in the bucket compared to the Niagara of lies from your friends and mine, The News Hounds.

        PS No Pete Hegseth is not a host on the weekend edition either. He’s one of several people rotating in the third chair until a permanent host is found. As it stands Fox & Friends Weekend has two permanent hosts–neither of whom was a Trump supporter.

    • Cecelia

      Those awful Tea Party folks, male or female, only got utter disrespect and marginalization from the MSM.

      Hello, Pres. Trump.

  • GATXER

    Wow….the disgraced racist newshounds lackeys sure are upset about Fox News coverage of the woman march………not that they aren’t covering it……even they wouldn’t try that huge of a lie…….but that they aren’t covering it earlier in each hour……….funny how they dont seem upset to see a CNN host speaking at the event billed as a Trump protest march.

    #Hypocrites
    #laughingstocks

    • Cecelia

      Who’s the CNN host who is speaking?

      • GATXER

        Van Jones
        https://twitter.com/CNNnewsroom/status/822853377344188420

        Who ironically just hosted a CNN show last month called The Messy Truth

        • It’s a series now. Several more set to air soon.

        • Cecelia

          so

          • They’re both bald.

          • Larry Kelly

            If you need to tell tell them apart, Stelter had really big, glowing teeth.

          • Cecelia

            And there’s nothing about the rest of his face that smiles.

            There’s just the baring of his teeth.

            ALL of them.

        • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

          And is a commie. His openness about it, and his dislike for Y.T., is why he has to resign as one of Obama’s czars

          • Son of Blackflon

            Y.T. Pourrait éventuellement Sally Field et Francisco Franco pour dommages punitifs

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Poisson pet.

  • GATXER

    Speaking of CNN the place for Fake News……they called Trump a liar…..then weeks later very quietly admit…….well yes he was right after all. Trying to be trusted by no one.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/19/news/economy/donald-trump-chevy-cruze-mexico/

    #notanewsnetwork

  • GATXER

    Oh yea…..cant stand Trump….but I love his Press Sec…………..media complaining about whether he telling the truth about crowd size….ignored the fact that he called them out for their lies.

    CNN didnt even show it.

    #notanewsnetwork

    • Cecelia

      Generally it’s good to have proof when you’re calling folks out for something.

      It’s unfathomable to me why Pres. Trump would take any good feeling that there was in the media about his obvious closeness with his children and the beauty of our traditions, and throw it away on such an issue.

      I think most of his supporters want him to push back on media liberal advocacy, deceit, and partisan ill-will. However, they do expect that there be a sense of proportion and timing.

      This press conference was stupid.

      • GATXER

        Well I was referring to the part about the MLK bust NOT the crowd size….which is dumb on Trump’s part……but I do think the media harping on it for two days is also dumb.

        I guess I missed the good will he was getting from the media. I wanted press briefings like that during the last 4 admins……….so no matter what I think about Trump I hope they fight back. I hope every time a reporter uses his question to get get his 15min of fame…….I hope they fight back…..with the media favorability rating what it is…..how can they lose?

        If the media publishes something untrue about the admin…….they should be shamed……..I begged the Obama admin to do that…….they never did.

        • Cecelia

          Trump must learn to choose his battles wisely, Gat.

          • GATXER

            I agree 100%…..but I think the MLK bust was somewhat important.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            It turns out the MLK bust story was another lie, this time from Time magazine. It is still in the Oval Office, along with new ones of Herschel Walker and Doug Flutie.

  • Larry Kelly

    WATER’S WORLD started out pretty funny with acknowledgement his parents and other family members were marching today. Then he interviewed marcher’s with usual hilarity.

    • Cecelia

      If I had a say Watters would have been drop kicked out the door several years ago.

    • Jocko13

      Waters has the same routine every time. It’s gotten stale and predictable. Too bad, because I think he can be better.

      • Larry Kelly

        since i’ve only watched him twice it’s all fresh stuff

  • Cecelia

    The awful tweet about 10-year-old Barron Trump by some soulless liberal SNL writer is the worst of the worst.

    This is second– http://downtrend.com/71superb/chris-matthews-suggests-that-donald-trump-will-murder-his-son-in-law

    You just have to wonder how long before the media is so self-indulgent and undisciplined that the public tunes them out entirely.

    • Larry Kelly

      They will always have the core of the left whose taste would gag a maggot on a dungpile.

    • jrd

      Below is a quote from a column on Wonkette in 2011 in response to a poem that someone had written in honor of Trig Palin.

      “Oh little boy, what are you dreaming about? What’s he dreaming about? Nothing. He’s retarded.”

      • Cecelia

        It’s all pretty much on ball bearings, isn’t it.

  • Larry Kelly

    Madonna wants to “bomb the White House” but conceded it would do no good. Secret Service breathed a sigh of relief.

  • Lurker

    Anyone know what happened with Beckle?

    Did FOX call Beckle to return or did he call FOX asking to return? 😜 🤣 😝

    • GATXER

      Always hard for me to know when bob’s joking or not…..but……He’s made comments about his health and addiction…………from his attitude IMHO he’s clean and he’s lost a large amount of weight. Fox didnt want to let him go….they said so at the time…..Id say he asked to come back and proved he was clean and Fox said yes….I’m guessing CNN was letting him go after the election like Fox did with people this week so he need a job.

      I’m happy to have him back….I have started watching the 5 again.

  • gcblues
    • Cecelia

      gc and Michael T. I apologize to both of you.

      Sorry to have acted ridiculously.

  • Whenever I see Corey Lewandowski on TV, he looks like he’s angrily fighting back tears.

  • GATXER

    Wait……I missed this:

    CNN Reminds Employees They Can’t Participate in Women’s Marches
    http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/cnn-reminds-employees-they-cant-participate-in-womens-marches/317879

    Yet Van Jones not only participated he was a speaker…..and CNN punishes him in 3….2….oh silly me that won’t happen……….they will do nothing.

    Also this is hilarious……

    Fmr. Clinton Spokesman: Spicer Should’ve Resigned Rather Than Lie for Trump
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fmr-clinton-spokesman-spicer-shouldve-resigned-rather-than-lie-for-trump/

    except theres this from last year
    Clinton Spokesman Blatantly Lies to Explain Why Clinton Blatantly Lied
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/clinton-spokesman-blatantly-lies-to-explain-why-clinton-blatantly-lied/

    • Cecelia

      If the “policy announcement” was designed to draw away a lot of coverage from the women’s march, it worked.

      • Larry Kelly

        calculated for sure

    • Michael T

      Good catch.

      Van Jones sure looks like an “employee” since he hosted a Trump election special on CNN.

      But the only hits I get with Google still show him as a “contributor” — which may have likely excluded him from the CNN dictum not to participate in the women’s marches.

      [Head scratch]

      • GATXER

        Hes hosting a new show……..that makes him a employee.

        • Michael T

          Not necessarily.

          You could be right OR it could be a contract assignment.

          Nowhere on the Internet — that I could find — was he referred to other than as a “contributor.”

        • AFAIC he gets a paycheck from CNN so he’s an employee. Whether or not he hosts a show affects signifies what kind of employee he is.

          • Michael T

            Okay..fair enough.

            But I would hope PBS would not hold documentarian Ken Burns (who also got a paycheck) to the same stringent standards as NPR did when they fired Juan Williams.

  • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

    By the way, “poisson pet” means “fish fart.”

    • Son of Blackflon

      Los peces pueden peatones, pero Sean Spicer podría ser demandado por daños punitivos por la banda Lords Acid

    • Larry Kelly

      then no carbuncle on that

  • This weekend’s most popular links:
    5 cable and broadcast
    4 different under Trump
    3 political hit-job
    2 unloads on Trump
    And the most popular link in today’s links…
    1 Fox contributors no longer: Will, Dash, Ed Rollins, Cal Thomas, Marvin Kalb.

  • Cecelia

    This is the funniest thing I’ve read in awhile.

    This is one woman’s perspective on the Women’s March and it is a hoot!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4144242/KATIE-HOPKINS-Having-vagina-biology-not-argument.html

  • Jocko13

    I’ll miss George Will, the others not so much.

  • Nixon – niihpikiiookani
    • Larry Kelly

      i like turtles!
      Lead singer got a haircut and formed The Young Turks. Guy waving the french horn still wanted in three states.

      • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

        The lead singer also bore a resemblance to one of the worst commanders in the history of the U.S. Army, George B. McClellan.

        • gcblues

          i have a copy somewhere. There is a good book out that concentrated solely on the character of the civil war generals on both sides. Knowing you, you’ve read already. If not i’ll dig around for you if you have an interest. A lot of discussion re: personality diff between Longstreet and Lee being critical to the Gettysburg outcome. More to that battle than the lack of Cavalry recon and screening. If i recall Longstreet was innovative in that he recognized the development of arms made made the effective strategy to maneuver the enemy into assaulting your preset defense. Something the Germans did not figure out either in their 19th century war. Foolishly, they did not learn that for ww1 either.

    • gcblues

      the Gibson ES335 on the left is likely from the 60’s and in that condition fetches today over $200k. But then my name is “i was wrong again”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie8eEJopUUQ