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  • carolr527

    My heart breaks for the Bolling family. I don’t understand why Bolling was let go from FOX. There is no evidence, that I know of, and his alleged incident happened years ago. Why is it just coming to light now? Why do his accusers get to remain anonymous? I really believe the Murdoch sons are on a mission to rid FOX of conservatives who support Trump.

    • CDG24

      It sure sounds like the Bolling story had been known for years, but it wasn’t until now that someone decided to take the time to write about it. Supposedly other people were about to write about it as well.

      The accusers and the other sources look like they were not trying to get anything out of it. There is no report that there has been a lawsuit or that anyone made a complaint to the law firm investigating incidents at Fox News. I’ve heard nothing about any of them shopping the story around. A writer probably simply asked them about a rumor and they confirmed it. The story didn’t go into much depth.

      I bet some involved with the story likely feel bad about what has happened. I’m not sure anyone involved necessarily wanted him gone. Even those sources that probably didn’t like him likely didn’t care whether he was fired or not.
      Came across more like a story meant to shame someone for something inappropriate and not trying to run someone off. Likely didn’t think Fox would handle something so old this way. Also, it would have been a safe assumption that Fox already knew long ago.

      I’m pretty certain that Fox News is positive something happened. There were too many sources. No one really defended him. Bolling would have been fighting harder publicly. He would be able to afford the lawyers to fight it. Fox News would love to be able to say there is no proof of the accusations. It would help fix some bad PR.

      Since the accusations are likely true, the accusers deserve anonymity.
      Also, Lauren Sivan admitted publicly that she saw the photo (I don’t think she was a recipient or an accuser though. Probably not even a source for the story.)

      Now, did he deserve to lose his job at the time of the actions? Probably. Did he deserve to lose it this many years later? I don’t think so, but we also don’t know if there is something else that has not been reported.

      Fox has to be a little worried about trying to hold the network up to too high of a standard. There are likely many other employees and potential future hires that have some things in their past that might eventually cause trouble.
      There seems to be a consensus that this type of stuff has happened and is happening at other media outlets. Those people are just lucky that they have not been looked into.

      • CDG24

        I think the sons are trying to get rid of people they think are causing bad PR for Fox/News Corp as a whole. They are trying to get rid of PR obstacles to other business deals. They likely have no strong feelings one way or the other towards anyone. They probably are not very hands on when it comes to programming or talent (who to hire. Where to put people). Likely others are in charge of those things.

        Fox is actually moving more pro-Trump with hosts. It looks like they are about to have a Tucker/Ingraham/Hannity prime time. Bolling had recently had his contract renewed. Guilfoyle has recently had her contract renewed. Jesse got Eric’s spot on The Five. Gutfeld has been more pro-Trump than he was last year. So, possibly within the next month, 6 of the 7 (all but Dana) most prominent opinion hosts at FNC could be considered Trump supporters. 9 of 10 if you consider F&F an opinion show.
        Eboni and Kat were probably the two most outspoken hosts at FNC about Trump post-Charlottesville and their show just got canceled and they got demoted back down to contributors.

        • Tomaza Jarquin

          sad

          • Cecelia

            There are sadder stories still, Mrs. GC, but welcome to JDP.

          • Tomaza Jarquin

            i use her web page to see grandkids and disqus changes me i do not think anyone does not know. Besides, the guitars she is looking at are &^&*)^)*&)_ copies, we need to talk.

          • Cecelia

            She probably wants her clothes back.

          • Tomaza Jarquin

            ??

          • Larry Kelly

            LOL

        • Cecelia

          Neither Eboni nor Kat have star power.

      • LenInFlux

        Well said. It sounded like a one-off and I’m sure some of the recipients weren’t happy about it but given that we’re talking about quite a while ago unless Bolling had a pattern of such behavior I doubt those who saw the picture wanted him fired over it.

        That said, I’m sure his case was given a fair review given the fact that they brought back Charles Payne from suspension. I don’t think Eric helped things by first giving a “I don’t remember sending a picture of my privates” statement though his lawyer to going on the offense and threatening to sue the writer of the article and all that. I’m sure his lawyer told him not to say anything about it which is sound advice but I wonder if he could have returned if he took to his facebook account and simply said that he did a stupid, childish thing a couple years ago and he regrets what he did and apologizes to all who saw it and promises that nothing has happened since then nor will it ever again.

        • Presbyter

          Good analysis. Also, the possibility that those photos are still out there somewhere in cyberland if not saved on someone’s phone.

        • Cecelia

          My theory is that he inadvertently sent a pic meant for one person to a group email thread.

          Women do a lot of baloney simply because they think it appeals to men. I think many young women who claim to be bisexual do it for that reason, etc.

          One of the stupidest things women have done is to pretend that they actually enjoy seeing pictures of a man’s junk. As though male gentalia is a sock puppet character with a drawn on smiley face not necessarily related to personhood of who it’s attached to.

          Yeech. Trust me. For 98% of women involved in this, it’s a pretense.

          • I’ve heard an alternate theory…that he did send pics to two people, but only after they had expressed an interest in seeing them. They subsequently showed the pics around to other people at Fox, but nobody reported it to anyone because EB didn’t harass anyone. He sent pics to two people who wanted to see them. I don’t know how likely this is, but it does answer some of the questions like why nobody ever reported anything to HR.

          • Cecelia

            And why he answered the question as he did.

          • CDG24

            That seems possible, but does go against some of what was said in the article.
            [Though Bolling’s side was not given in that article.]

            “The women did not solicit the messages, which they told colleagues were deeply upsetting and offensive. One of the recipients said that when she replied to Bolling via text, telling him never to send her such photos again, he did not respond.”

            Also:
            “The women… concluded the message was from him because they recognized his number from previous work-related and informal interactions.”
            If they had more of a relationship with him, they probably would have had his number saved to their phones.

          • Presbyter

            Yeah I inadvertently send pics of my genitalia all the time 🙄.

          • Cecelia

            Dont play dumb. You know exactly what I meant.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Wasn’t Genitalia the name of one of the Five Families in “The Godfather?”

          • Larry Kelly

            left the gun, ate the cannoli

          • CDG24

            The article said:
            “The messages were sent several years ago, on separate occasions.”

            So, that likely takes out group text. Also, that probably would mean there were far more than three people that received the picture and if there were more than three, I think the author might have been contacted by some other people once the story was out.

            Plus, if he accidentally did it once, he likely would have been more careful going forward.

          • Tomaza Jarquin

            yeah, only pecs count.

          • Cecelia

            Nice swimming pools go a long way.

          • Tomaza Jarquin

            digame.

          • Tomaza Jarquin

            did u even see the pics i sent?

          • Cecelia

            I’ll look now.

          • Tomaza Jarquin

            was days ago

          • Cecelia

            You should have told me.

          • Tomaza Jarquin

            i did

          • Cecelia

            Oh, okay. I didn’t hear you.

          • Tomaza Jarquin

            lol. i actually posted here and twitted u, likely u were out for a while and it all rolled on.

          • Minnesota Nice

            So these women must by the 2%.

            5 nurses suspended after opening body bag to view deceased patient’s genitals

            http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/09/06/5-nurses-suspended-after-opening-body-bag-to-view-deceased-patients-genitals.html

            Actually rather sad that I remember seeing this headline. 😉

          • Cecelia

            I’d wager that genitalia pic sharing people of the world disclaim any identification with that sort of curiosity.

            .0002%

          • Minnesota Nice

            You’ll appreciate Elaine’s last line in this 41 second Seinfeld clip.

            https://youtu.be/BEnKLhi83J8

          • Cecelia

            I don’t know how she walked around in that dress.

      • Cecelia

        I agree with much here, but I don’t see why the accusers “deserved” to stay private.

        I think the accused deserves to know and to face his accusers.

        • Presbyter

          I agree except they were sought out by Ali or whatever his name is. There is no doubt in my mind he did in fact send the pics.

        • Minnesota Nice

          Perhaps Bolling and his lawyer where told, however I don’t think Fox can legally release their names.

          • Cecelia

            They didn’t accuse him to Fox. They leaked the info to a reporter.

          • Minnesota Nice

            I realize that, which caused Fox to investigate. However I am pretty sure due to workplace privacy rights Fox can’t release their names.

          • Cecelia

            I wasn’t arguing that per se.

          • Minnesota Nice

            I figured, but wasn’t sure. As we know it’s not always easy to express our point in writing alone.

        • CDG24

          I think Bolling does know who they are. If he was lied about, he can go ahead and sue. Then the names would likely become public. So, if they deserve to be exposed, they probably will be.

          There still looks like there has been no lawsuit and no complaint to the network. That also would possibly put the names out there. If one had been made (at least one post-Ailes) before the story was out, Bolling would have likely been suspended sooner.

          Fox pretty clearly went on more than just accusations from one side.
          Bolling had been laying pretty low over the past month. If innocent, he should have been out there fighting every day. He threatened a lawsuit against the writer but never filed.

          Now, there is of course a chance that what actually happened is too embarrassing for him to want to admit. Perhaps some sort of affair. Maybe even texting the wrong person, but he doesn’t want it known who he meant to be texting.
          In the majority of cases, it is usually best to just be honest and try to move forward.

          I’m not sure “accusers” is even a very accurate word. I think it quite possible that it was a different source who directed the writer to those who received the texts. Then they just confirmed the story.

          I think they have wanted to not really be a focus of the story. This story would have been reported long ago if they had been the ones wanting it in the press.
          If their names were out there, they could get a lot of unfair attention no matter if what they said was true.
          If they are victims, they deserve privacy if they want it. There is a fair chance that at least one name will eventually come out.

          • Cecelia

            It’s not encumbent upon them to confirm a story. By doing that they were giving the green light to it being reported and in the context of there being a super media interest in Fox staff contrempts, they knew very well where it would lead. They likely asked to remain anonymous sources.

            I’m not suggesting that there should have been a report listing they’re names, just that they deserve, ethically or legally. no more media-wide anonymity than does Bolling.

          • Minnesota Nice

            In my workplace if we get a report of unethical conduct or wrongdoing. it is always investigated. Sadly it wastes a lot of time because many are false or revenge type of reports.

          • Cecelia

            Well, of course businesses investigate such claims.

          • Minnesota Nice

            Fox is a business and an investigation is confirming (or disproving) a story.

          • Cecelia

            Did I suggest something otherwise?

          • Minnesota Nice

            This statement – “It’s not encumbent upon them to confirm a story.” – however now after re-reading I see now you didn’t mean Fox News but the women. Sorry, please forgive me. 😉

          • Cecelia

            Yes. However, we don’t know that it was only female colleagues who confirmed seeing a pic. Could have been men who got it or were shown it too.

          • Minnesota Nice

            So funny, I was thinking the exact thing, but put women anyway.

          • Cecelia

            I said that in the context of my thinking that Bolling inadvertently sent the pic in a group email, not as a pean to various sexualities.

          • Minnesota Nice

            I figured that, as I agree the premise of inadvertent is a possibility.

    • Lurker

      Law firm investigating Eric Bolling allegations – Paul Weiss – gave 93% to Dems. Could be a Democrat hit job on Bolling & others that were ousted like Ailes &
      BOR

    • Tomaza Jarquin

      we can only hope.

  • LenInFlux

    Just in time to place my entry in the big Morning Joe sweepstakes. My life would be complete if I was able to snag one of those t-shirts or tote bags.

    • Larry Kelly

      I was hoping for a 60 MINUTES Steve Bannon giveaway.

      • Minnesota Nice

        Act in the next 30 minutes and they will throw in the ginsu knives!

        • Larry Kelly

          They’d have to pull them out of his back first.

      • Lurker

        60 Minutes & CBS want you to think Steve Bannon is a red eyed monster

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkF9Ab8wblM

  • Larry Kelly

    Racist reporting and photographs give unfair treatment of Irma looters. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4870676/Eight-looters-broke-Fort-Lauderdale-clothing-retailer.html
    Many are trying to appropriate guns to kill alligators and save lives.

    • Presbyter

      Those heroic young men desperately trying to save those expensive sneakers from the rising waters!

      • Minnesota Nice

        A public service!

  • Minnesota Nice

    Suck it UP: SPLC super pissed at Fox News for calling them OUT on ‘hate list’, demands correction

    https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/09/10/suck-it-up-splc-super-pissed-at-fox-news-for-calling-them-out-on-hate-list-demands-correction/

    • Larry Kelly

      Wish they were only Southern, as in South Pole.
      Wish their overfilled bags of liberal donated money hadn’t make a joke of their Poverty.
      Wish they gave a damn about the Law.
      Wish they had even a pretense of honesty at the Center.

  • Tomaza Jarquin

    Quite clear LSU elides over the double negative.

  • Larry Kelly
  • Larry Kelly
  • Bonus Shep aired at 1pm today, and a double dose of Shep – 3pm and 5pm – is scheduled for all week.

    • sky303

      Oh good, I can watch him at that later time , since I tend to miss the 3pm showings ..

    • Larry Kelly

      I watched the 1:00 PM show. Really the only hurricane briefing I needed today. Shep at his best.

  • Tomaza Jarquin

    Only Monday and we have the quote of the week. General John Kelly: ….. ‘empty barrels make the most noise.’”

  • Not sure how the TMZ link went bad but it did. I fixed it…at least until I screw it up again.

  • Minnesota Nice

    Dear Hillary, What difference at this point does it matter – WHAT HAPPENED?

  • Saintsfan720

    TMZ really on the passing of Eric Chase story. One observation: I taught school for short time (was not my calling). The old saying “kids can be cruel” definitely extends to teenagers particularly on social media. Whether Eric Sr committed the acts he’s accused of or not, his son probably was taking a lot of grief/harrassment over the story reported. Very sad.

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      My second wife taught school for 20 years. She claimed that when it came to outright viciousness, you could not top a teenage girl.

  • Larry Kelly

    That does it, I’m sending the damn thing back!
    http://nypost.com/2017/09/11/hackers-could-program-sex-robots-to-kill/

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      Do you have the Delightfully Delightful™ Lauren Sivan model? Open the control panel cover and set the switch to manual override.

  • Larry Kelly

    I’ve decided against buying the Hillary book. Apparently it’s just a therapy session with her ghost writer.

  • sky303

    CNN is reporting that FNC is going to move the five back to 5 and Sean to 9 and Ingraham comes to the line up at 10pmet. http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/11/media/laura-ingraham-fox-news-time-slot/index.html

    • Larry Kelly

      Well, CNN would know 😜

      • Minnesota Nice

        I actually think CNN’s Media Critic, Brian Stelter, watches and pays more attention to Fox News than most people. I guess it helps Fox News ratings.

        • sky303

          Hope he has a Nelsen box then ;p

        • Cecelia

          Just like Media Matters.

  • Today’s most popular links:
    5 recommends lying
    4 out in the rain
    3 scared of nobody
    2 emotional torture
    And the most popular link in today’s links…
    1 Rothstein: TMZ reporting problematic, Yashar Ali’s is ‘sickening’.

  • J.J.

    Much credit to the posters that predicted Ingraham would get a slot in prime time on Fox. I was skeptical that after previously failing with shows on MSNBC and Fox that she would get another shot. I wish her much success.

    Fox HAD to move The Five.

    Maddow vs. Hannity should be fun.
    Memo to Sean: do your shows LIVE. Your canned shows from the afternoon when news is breaking at night kills Fox News.

    • sky303

      I still kind of wish they had a “breather ” show in primetime between the opinion shows or after.

      • J.J.

        agreed — they are doubling down on pro-Trump opinion.

        a prime time 2nd hour of Special Report would have been a nice “breather” from all opinion after Martha.

        • Hate to be a stick-in-the-mud (though I am one) but this hasn’t happened yet. There was a flurry of stories about it last month and nothing developed. Now another flurry of stories but they’re still worded with enough rhetorical trap doors that they can claim they didn’t say it was for sure. I agree it’s likely to happen, but don’t count chickens before they hatch. Or maybe I’m just being a downer because I don’t want somebody who blocked me getting her own show. 🙁

          • Presbyter

            Interesting. She’s failed before on cable.

          • sky303

            Before that show on FNC she also once tired MSNBC …

          • Cecelia

            Same thing is true for Tucker. Third time’s a charm.

          • Cecelia

            I’m sure she blocked up you after what you did to poor Andrea Tantaros.

          • She’s had me blocked for years. Long before the all tied up in knots girl.

          • Cecelia

            Prescience? 😀

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Well, you did once say something impertinent about her old flame.

          • sky303

            blocked you? how rude.

  • carolr527

    I was surprised how little attention 9/11 was given today. I realize Irma is the bigger story right now, but still…I think only FOX aired the reading of the names this morning.

    • sky303

      MSNBC didn’t re-air the Today show from 9/11 last year they might have been their last year of doing that