Nov 092017
 

Updated 6:56 pm  Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today’s open thread.

  • Larry Kelly

    I am so confused. Is DOJ insistent on selling fake news or refusing to allow fake news to be sold?

    • Tomaza Jarquin

      They insist if TWX goes to T, CNN cannot go with it. It is stupid. They have to divest according to Trump’s DOJ and if the DOJ insists they will be soundly thrashed in court and everyone knows it. It is typical Trumpian horse leaving. Like the Carrier plant he saved which has now cut more jobs and outsourced more parts which they should have done sooner. American first ideas produce negative productivity, output per cost, which is considerably more important than phony fears of losing outdated employment and immigrant crime. now of course you are not really confused you just get a little woody every time you can say fake news, come on admit it. if i am wrong, just go to any financial site and learn a little about what TWX and T are composed of and what antitrust is and you can post confidently.
      Likely the most long lasting positive thing the Trump admin will accomplish will come from Arabella Kurshna’s “extreme” Mandarin diplomacy. He already flipped the state wash’s legislature and is on track to reverse and and possibly leave shrubs in worse shape than obama left the dims. 360 million people and 2 parties is stupid anyway.

      Loving AEP, your monthly contribution is appreciated.

      CNN can be bought or sold, no prob. They are a worldwide cash cow. First newspapers learned depending on a limited geographical area was a loser. Now electronic media is learning it. Even radio stations are all broadcast worldwide on net platforms. No country, not even China can have perpetually growing media limited by geography or content and crushed with ethnocentric cost.

    • Cecelia

      I’d give anything if Murdoch would announce that he wants to buy CNN.

      Just for the ensuing hilarity.

      • Larry Kelly

        Or Trump.

        • Cecelia

          Oh, that would be priceless!

  • dsmawley

    Liberal talking head Simon Rosenberg to boycott Fox News “Happening Now” because former Little House On The Prairie & Fox Host Melissa Francis hurt his feelings. How can Francis possibly recover from this & where will Rosenberg find a less threatening host to bully?

    • Larry Kelly

      She’ll get Pa or Nels Oleson to talk to him and it will all be worked out in an hour.

      • Minnesota Nice

        Melissa Gilbert (Laura Ingalls) turned out to be a disappointment. Last year she ran for congress as Democrat in Michigan. It was revealed she owed a ton of back taxes to the IRS. After polls showed she had no chance of winning, she dropped out claiming it was due to an old injury from Dancing with the Stars.

    • He should talk to Warren Ballentine and Alexis McGill Johnson, who personally attacked their counterparts in their last appearances on FNC.

    • Rather than update my reply, I’ll make a new one. I’m in the final hour of the Audible version of Melissa’s Lessons from the Prairie. When I’m finished, I’ll move on to Mean Dads for a Better America by Tom Shillue.

  • Larry Kelly

    If anyone saw this follow-up story anywhere but Fox, let me know: http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/07/hate-hoax-air-force-academy-cadet-candidate-wrote-fake-racist-messages-himself/
    Such reporting omission would be the kind of that frozen turd of an Iceman would complain about if only it matched his ideology.

    • Minnesota Nice

      Another one likely not covered much – Racist graffiti painted on car near K-State was a fraud – I can’t believe they didn’t charge him

      • Larry Kelly

        “Paging Tawana Brawley, a Reverend Sharpton on the line.”

      • Cecelia

        Dude writes racist slurs on his own car, calls the cops and a local newspaper falsely claiming to be a K-State student who is going to leave the university over racist harassment.

        After admitting it’s all a lie, he then described all the above as a Halloween prank gone awry.

        Oh, sure…

        There should be a special place in hell for people who wish the world and people in it to look worse than it and we are already.

        • Tomaza Jarquin

          sin numero uno is enjoying the pain of others.

          • Cecelia

            I agree entirely if we’re talking about enjoying real heartache or trouble-making, rather than enjoying Chicken Little.

    • When facts conflict with the narrative, they get frozen out. At times like that Mr Freeze just says ‘let it go’.

      • Minnesota Nice

        I like what former Milwaukee Sheriff Clark tweeted about the K-State incident –

        “IDENTITY POLITICS causes this. It perpetuates a false feeling that everybody is entitled to VICTIM STATUS…except white males. This FRAUD demonstrates that true racism is so rare in America that fake stories have to be made up to keep the lie going”

        • Cecelia

          This is truth.

          The Exhaustion of American Liberalism

          Shelby Steele

          The recent flurry of marches, demonstrations and even riots, along with the Democratic Party’s spiteful reaction to the Trump presidency, exposes what modern liberalism has become: a politics shrouded in pathos. Unlike the civil-rights movement of the 1950s and ’60s, when protesters wore their Sunday best and carried themselves with heroic dignity, today’s liberal marches are marked by incoherence and downright lunacy—hats designed to evoke sexual organs, poems that scream in anger yet have no point to make, and an hysterical anti-Americanism.

          All this suggests lostness, the end of something rather than the beginning. What is ending?

          America, since the ’60s, has lived through what might be called an age of white guilt. We may still be in this age, but the Trump election suggests an exhaustion with the idea of white guilt, and with the drama of culpability, innocence and correctness in which it mires us.

          White guilt is not actual guilt. Surely most whites are not assailed in the night by feelings of responsibility for America’s historical mistreatment of minorities. Moreover, all the actual guilt in the world would never be enough to support the hegemonic power that the mere pretense of guilt has exercised in American life for the last half-century.

          White guilt is not angst over injustices suffered by others; it is the terror of being stigmatized with America’s old bigotries—racism, sexism, homophobia and xenophobia. To be stigmatized as a fellow traveler with any of these bigotries is to be utterly stripped of moral authority and made into a pariah. The terror of this, of having “no name in the street” as the Bible puts it, pressures whites to act guiltily even when they feel no actual guilt. White guilt is a mock guilt, a pretense of real guilt, a shallow etiquette of empathy, pity and regret.

          It is also the heart and soul of contemporary liberalism. This liberalism is the politics given to us by white guilt, and it shares white guilt’s central corruption. It is not real liberalism, in the classic sense. It is a mock liberalism. Freedom is not its raison d’être; moral authority is.

          When America became stigmatized in the ’60s as racist, sexist and militaristic, it wanted moral authority above all else. Subsequently the American left reconstituted itself as the keeper of America’s moral legitimacy. (Conservatism, focused on freedom and wealth, had little moral clout.) From that followed today’s markers of white guilt—political correctness, identity politics, environmental orthodoxy, the diversity cult and so on.

          This was the circumstance in which innocence of America’s bigotries and dissociation from the American past became a currency of hardcore political power. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, good liberals both, pursued power by offering their candidacies as opportunities for Americans to document their innocence of the nation’s past. “I had to vote for Obama,” a rock-ribbed Republican said to me. “I couldn’t tell my grandson that I didn’t vote for the first black president.”

          For this man liberalism was a moral vaccine that immunized him against stigmatization. For Mr. Obama it was raw political power in the real world, enough to lift him—unknown and untested—into the presidency. But for Mrs. Clinton, liberalism was not enough. The white guilt that lifted Mr. Obama did not carry her into office—even though her opponent was soundly stigmatized as an iconic racist and sexist.

          Perhaps the Obama presidency was the culmination of the age of white guilt, so that this guiltiness has entered its denouement. There are so many public moments now in which liberalism’s old weapon of stigmatization shoots blanks— Elizabeth Warren in the Senate reading a 30-year-old letter by Coretta Scott King, hoping to stop Jeff Sessions’s appointment as attorney general. There it was with deadly predictability: a white liberal stealing moral authority from a black heroine in order to stigmatize a white male as racist. When Ms. Warren was finally told to sit, there was real mortification behind her glaring eyes.

          This liberalism evolved within a society shamed by its past. But that shame has weakened now. Our new conservative president rolls his eyes when he is called a racist, and we all—liberal and conservative alike—know that he isn’t one. The jig is up. Bigotry exists, but it is far down on the list of problems that minorities now face. I grew up black in segregated America, where it was hard to find an open door. It’s harder now for young blacks to find a closed one.

          This is the reality that made Ms. Warren’s attack on Mr. Sessions so tiresome. And it is what caused so many Democrats at President Trump’s address to Congress to look a little mortified, defiantly proud but dark with doubt. The sight of them was a profound moment in American political history.

          Today’s liberalism is an anachronism. It has no understanding, really, of what poverty is and how it has to be overcome. It has no grip whatever on what American exceptionalism is and what it means at home and especially abroad. Instead it remains defined by an America of 1965—an America newly opening itself to its sins, an America of genuine goodwill, yet lacking in self-knowledge.

          This liberalism came into being not as an ideology but as an identity. It offered Americans moral esteem against the specter of American shame. This made for a liberalism devoted to the idea of American shamefulness. Without an ugly America to loathe, there is no automatic esteem to receive. Thus liberalism’s unrelenting current of anti-Americanism.

          Let’s stipulate that, given our history, this liberalism is understandable. But American liberalism never acknowledged that it was about white esteem rather than minority accomplishment. Four thousand shootings in Chicago last year, and the mayor announces that his will be a sanctuary city. This is moral esteem over reality; the self-congratulation of idealism. Liberalism is exhausted because it has become a corruption.

          Mr. Steele, a senior fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, is author of “Shame: How America’s Past Sins Have Polarized Our Country” (Basic Books, 2015).

          • Cecelia

            Johnny, I had to paste it all because of the WSJ firewall.

          • I’m reporting you to Mr Freeze.

          • Cecelia

            That’s cold…

          • Son of Rusty Shackleford

            Y’all need to chill!!!!!

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            I’m glad that you posted it, Cece. It was an important read.

      • Larry Kelly

        I hope he doesn’t sing.

      • GATXER

        Interesting that he made ZERO posts about outnumbered today which is very rare…….I wonder what could have been missing?????? Oh wait no woman of color named Harris to attack.

      • There’s actually a meteorologist here in NYC, on WABC (Channel 7 Eyewitness News) named Amy Freeze. Seriously, that’s her name.

  • Minnesota Nice

    J$ tweeted the Greta “Sorry” app story and I replied I wonder if Greta will have Brenda Lee’s song “I’m Sorry” as part of her promotion. Greta replied back – I wanted to…Like you, I thought that was the perfect song but problem is copyright.

    • I prefer “Hard to Say I’m Sorry/Get Away” by Chicago from their career-redeeming, David Foster-produced Chicago 16 album.

  • Larry Kelly
    • Cecelia

      I look at Ivanka’s Instagram site just see pictures of those babies (Well, okay,…and of her house too).

  • Minnesota Nice

    Anyone else having issues with Disqus? I can’t access my notifications or profile on PC or phone. I also noticed that J$ avatar and one other person isn’t displaying it just says “Avator”, but everyone else’s is showing. Probably the Russians.

    • Grandpa D

      Or the DNC.

  • Larry Kelly

    Bob Woodward says one tip for reporters is to just “shut up” when interviewing someone: “Let the silence suck out the truth.”

  • Tomaza Jarquin

    “Da bitche set me up”. Washington’s farewell addresses are simply unreadable today. Knock the monuments down and put up stuff that is relevant.
    http://wjla.com/news/local/dc-council-takes-step-towards-placing-statue-of-marion-barry-in-front-of-wilson-building

  • Minnesota Nice

    If Zucker is ousted, most likely his lackey, Brian Stelter will be as well, since it’s been reported Zucker is his one and only supporter at CNN.

    • Mitch Alan

      Zucker won’t be ousted so long as Jeff Bewkes is the Time Warner CEO. Zucker is just following Bewkes’ orders, which is anti-Trump. Bewkes also brought in HBO’s Bill Maher and John Oliver, both leftists.

    • Larry Kelly

      And his nose is stuck in Zucker’s…

  • J.J.

    Looks like Donna Brazile delivered for Tucker.

  • Mitch Alan
    • Minnesota Nice

      It may make sense that he didn’t cover Hillary Uranium story, since his program is the news of the day and he a breaking news guy. Also it was extensively covered elsewhere on the network. Note I am not dismissing the story, because it is worthy of investigation. Rubert & Sons like Shepard Smith and so did Roger Ailes, especially since he has been with the network for a long time. They trust him as the face of breaking news at both Fox News and the Fox broadcast network. Perhaps he does have different views then others at the network, but I think that is good. because Fox News is fair and balanced and why they are the cable news leader.

  • Tomaza Jarquin
    • Mitch Alan

      What did she do? That didn’t look like the right link.

      • Tomaza Jarquin

        you are right and i should have posted or summarized, however once again i did not know i was signed in as tomi. i go to see pics of the grandkids and come back as a tranny. …so i just saw this. mea culpa.
        http://video.foxnews.com/v/5640080479001/?playlist_id=5622526903001#sp=show-clips
        http://video.foxnews.com/v/5640121294001/?playlist_id=5622526903001#sp=show-clips

        Embarrassing, i.e. popular sycophant lies. 1. her comments contradict Va. returns, listen to country counts on I’ll tell you what, and 2, As actual polling shows they were close to entirely correct, HRC won by millions, what happened was Wisc, Pa, and Mich were not even polled

        • Tomaza Jarquin

          Not to mention, not seeing or hearing a lot of happy. short calls are leading the market.

        • Mitch Alan

          Your statement that Wisconsin, PA, and Michigan weren’t polled is absolutely absurd. They were polled and got it wrong.

          • Tomaza Jarquin

            the last state polls by polls Fox considers usable in the states mentioned were months before the election. that was absurd. Ask the guy you called an annoying nerd.

          • Mitch Alan

            HIllary was polling all of these states continually. You had originally said there were no polls. If I can find you several state polls within 28 days of the election, will you send me $500? If I can’t I will pay you $500.

  • Minnesota Nice

    Thanks J$ for Gutfeld hate crime hoaxes video post from The Five. It is especially ironic since it was a topic of discussion started up by Larry today, whose story was Gutfelds monologue lede. I also noticed he mentioned the story from Kansas that I replied to Larry. I’ll go out on a limb and say Greg Gutfeld visits J$P.

  • Today’s most popular links:
    5 DoJ rejected it
    4 raise $700,000
    3 Zucker exit
    2 ‘Sorry’ app
    And the most popular link in today’s links…
    1 Rothstein: Zucker’s hands are dirty as he trashes Donna Brazile.

  • Larry Kelly

    What do Luis C.K., Bill Clinton, and Jimmy Swaggart have in common? Yep, they’re all pretty funny.

  • Larry Kelly
    • Cecelia

      The Patron Staint of FBI Sting Targets.