Nov 102017
 

Updated 6:28 pm  Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today’s open thread.

  • homemaker

    Can I say I am not looking forward to the news today? A Republican Senate candidate accused of molesting a 14 yo girl and a Menendez juror being released to go on vacation saying the prosecution railroaded Menendez. Guessing the verdict Not Guilty will happen today since jurors hate to deliberate over a weekend.

    • Cecelia

      A not surpring phenomenon of news watchers finding out the legal difficulties of a Democratic politician and the resolution of these difficulties all in the same day.

    • Larry Kelly

      My fave: Melendez juror asks judge, “What is a Senator?”

    • Mitch Alan

      I am so glad this woman took 40 years to remember that she had been molested.

  • Cecelia

    I don’t doubt that Donna Brazile knows the skeletons in the closet at the DNC and probably at CNN.

    That said it is just the mentality of these campaign insiders and media advocates to do what Brazile did in scolding Jake Tapper for saying her actions embarrassed CNN.

    As it stood, CNN let her hang around for two weeks on suspension. Tapper may have been the only CNN person frank enough to rebuke her publicly.

    Brazile is used to wagon-circling from media members and ideological colleagues. She views Tapper’s justifiable pique as disloyalty. That pissed her off. She had to deal with this right in the midst of Wikileaks exposing the rigging at the DNC.

    She had condescending Clintonites AND what was dropped in her lap by Obama and the temperamental and entitled Madam Clinton.

    Clinton’s grandiosity and big-wig sycophants made her feel like the scrub woman in the kitchen. She was supposed to roll up her sleeves and clean up the messes and stay there until her presence was required…and all the racial connotations of that.

    Stelter and the rest of the folks at CNN can denounce Brazile’s revelations all they want. She may dial it down a notch, but she won’t take too much of that stay in your place stuff. CNN may discover that she has some political allies of color who might not either.

    • Larry Kelly

      CNN antagonists are walking on thin ice above the pond of accusation of racism. Taking a shot at Donna more risky than taking a shot at any Republican that’s ever lived.

      • Cecelia

        Great point.

  • LenInFlux

    I’m happy for Harris Faulkner for getting her own show – she deserves it.

    • Mitch Alan

      No one “deserves” a daily show. You either get high ratings or you don’t. Ask Gretchen Carlson.

      From every indication, both Harris Faulkner’s and Dana Perino’s shows are ratings challenged. They will both be cancelled. The only question is how soon.

      • sky303

        Where’d you hear Perino and Faulkner’s shows are ratings challenged?

        • Minnesota Nice

          They usually have approximately 400,000 to 800,000 more viewers than MSNBC and CNN. I suspect they vary so much due to time day. Examples from this week:

          WED 11/8
          Harris Faulkner 1,570,000 viewers
          MSNBC 862,000
          CNN 799,000

          MON 11/6
          Dana Perino 1,713,000 viewers
          MSNBC 1,004,000
          CNN 806,000.

          Some days they have more than competition combined.I suspect Fox News is happy with their performance and I haven’t read anywhere that they will be cancelled. Fox needed more female hosts and Harris and Dana are very smart, talented and well liked (popular). Dana has 1.7 million twitter followers, near the top for Fox News hosts.

          • Mitch Alan

            Why cherry pick the dates? At least use the same date when there is no breaking news and compared to noon and 3pm.

          • Minnesota Nice

            It was just a sample from this week, which is why I gave the approximate ranges they beat the competition. Here is NOON to 3 pm ET Tuesday 11/7 – no breaking news that I am aware of:

            Cable News Rank-Show-Network-Time-Total Viewers
            14 FNC OUTNUMBERED… Noon 1,895,000
            20 FNC S SMITH REPORT. 3 PM 1,589,000
            21 FNC OUT# OVERTIME.. 1 PM 1,570,000
            23 FNC DLY BRF PERINO.. 2 PM 1,524,000
            37 MSNBC LIVE VELSHI…. 3 PM 968,000
            38 MSNBC LIVE K. TUR….. 2 PM 929,000
            42 MSNBC LIVE MELVIN…. 1 PM 862,000
            43 CNN NEWSROOM……… 3 PM 846,000
            44 MSNBC MITCHELL…….. Noon 834,000
            45 CNN NEWSROOM……… 2 PM 799,000
            46 CNN WOLF………………… 1 PM 799,000
            47 CNN INSIDE POLITICS. Noon 750,000

          • Mitch Alan

            Thanks for the detailed numbers. From 1.9 million to about 1.55 million for Faulkner, Perino, and Shep Smith. Then to 1.62 million for Cavuto and 2.46 million for The Five.

          • Minnesota Nice

            Agree. Outside Fox & Friends at 6 am and overnight rebroadcasts, the 1, 2 & 3 pm hours typically have the lowest total viewers lately. I am not totally sure if that has always been the case and looking at ratings earlier this year and last aren’t a good comparison, due to the Trump impact with all news networks getting higher ratings.

            I and I suspect Fox News is a little disappointed at Ingrahams ratings, she definitely isn’t knocking it out of the part as you say.

          • Mitch Alan

            I can’t think of anyone who would do better than Laura. I am certain that Tomi Lahren would do much better than Shannon Bream if the show had a younger flavor, maybe with a bit of fun added. Shannon is oh so serious at 11pm, when something lighter is called for.

          • Minnesota Nice

            It was interesting that Brian Kilmeade had good ratings when he hosted 10 pm for numerous days in September. He easily beat “stop the hammering” Larry on MSNBC. Although it was rather small short term sample. I think Fox News needs to do more promotion and Laura needs to book some big league guests.

          • Son of Rusty Shackleford

            They should give Tammy Bruce a shot at a show; ever since I heard Laura dropping f bombs on her radio show when she thought she was off the air she lost me—way too unprofessional for someone who’d been doing it for years. I’ll read her books, but don’t care for her on broadcast media.

          • sky303

            The point of the 11et show is to be a non opinion in the first place.

          • Mitch Alan

            Well, the change the point. The show’s ratings stink.

          • TheMightyINB

            That is a lie.

  • LenInFlux

    The FCC should block that proposed merger of Disney with Fox – Disney already owns ABC, ESPN and A&E and whatever else – that’s too much consolidation.

    • Mitch Alan

      Fox Sports, Fox Broadcasting, and the Fox TV stations were already taken out of the deal for that reason.

    • sky303

      They only own half of the A+E networks with Hearst
      The local stations were already taken out of the deal because of that, Fox was considering giving up their local stations to Ion media. Plus there’s nothing to block if the deal is not happening. The Sinclair buying Tribune thing is also too much consolidation too.

  • Minnesota Nice

    In this Mr. Joe Concha article Drudge predicts CNN chief ‘out’ over ‘abysmal’ ratings, feud with Trump, Concha shows a tweet from CNN PR to Drudge bragging about their ratings: LOL, these ratings?

    On Wed Nov 8
    Average 25-54 year old demographic viewers in primetime
    Fox News 619,000
    MSNBC 535,000
    CNN 333,000

    Average total viewers in primetime
    Fox News 3,027,000
    MSNBC 2,444,000
    CNN 946,000

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      CNN can’t allow this to continue without a stockholder’s revolt.

    • Joe Concha

      In dealing with all the networks on ratings releases I’ve found there are many creative ways of spinning them. In CNN’s case, they like to tout Total Day vs. MSNBC in the demo and ratings vs. past performance. They largely stay away from prime due to numbers like the ones above.

      • Another CNN trick is to use ‘blended data’ where they fold in non-standard metrics like Live+7 days when it’s conveeeeeenient.

      • sky303

        The classic up over last year thing ….

      • Minnesota Nice

        CNN & Zucker are the spin masters.

        Zucker claims through “internal research” their brand hasn’t been hurt by the fake news moniker, yet their viewers and website visitors are down. If he isn’t spinning, why not release their “internal research”.

        Back in 2013, CNN claimed Anthony Bourdain has attracted 10 million new viewers overall and 5 million the 25-54 demo. Bourdain has never even come close to those numbers, he is lucky to get 1 to 1.5 million total viewers. Note sure where they get those numbers, but obviously pure spin.

        • Joe Concha

          Oh no, I’m not saying that at all. I’m just making the point that all networks highlight whatever best point is avilable and go from there.

          • Minnesota Nice

            I didn’t mean to imply you think that, but I personally believe that.

  • sky303

    Cheddar (the online business news channel) is launching an online news channel like CBSN , next year . https://digiday.com/media/cheddar-to-launch-second-channel-now-on-track-to-make-11-million-this-year/

    • Minnesota Nice

      Mmm Cheddar. 😉

      • Grandpa D

        Cheddar Broccoli soup from McAllister’s is excellent!

        • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

          Wasn’t Cheddar Cheese on the original SNL?

        • Minnesota Nice

          Fun Fact. Broccoli is my favorite vegetable and cheddar my favorite cheese, yet I have never had Cheddar Broccoli soup. I don’t know why, I guess I need to place on my bucket list. 😉

          • sky303

            I’ve never tried any either 😮

  • Minnesota Nice

    Congratulations to Chris Wallace. Interesting when you include his Fox News Sunday rebroadcasts on Fox News Channel he does very well. On Sunday, October 29 (Nov 5 had breaking news, so cable rebroadcasts were preempted) he was #1 in Total Viewers.

    Total Viewers Sunday, October 29, 2017
    4,120,000 FOX Fox News Sunday*
    4,040,000 NBC Meet the Press*
    3,408,000 CBS Face the Nation
    2,950,000 ABC This Week

    *includes rebroadcasts on their cable networks

  • Thursday ratings aren’t up yet but I’m betting Tucker will be down a bit. His lead story (about the evils of Facebook et al) was a very niche-y choice.

  • Larry Kelly
    • Minnesota Nice

      Perhaps they will make Ed Schultz do his show from the Kremlin. I’ll contribute to his one way trip.

      • sky303

        I’ve seen him on RT, he’s way different than he was at MSNBC , either that or less angry.

    • sky303

      This might make Russia retaliate on CNN in Russia

    • GATXER

      so will the BBC be next?

  • Larry Kelly
  • Today’s most popular links:
    5 CNN in shock
    4 that never was
    3 about Harris Faulkner
    2 targets Tapper
    And the most popular link in today’s links…
    1 Shep Smith makes his own path.