Dec 022017
 

  • MediaBuzz videos: Trump’s spin.
  • Reliable Sources: Ross recants; perilous tweets; Lauer; party flap.
  • Twitter erupts over Gretchen’s claim that Greta called her ‘a liar’.
  • NYT audio Q&A: Sean Hannity talks journalism, Trump, and more.
  • WWE’s Dolph Ziggler may exit the ring for a role on Fox News.
  • Videos: on automation; cools Flynn fever.
  • Canadian tv suspends host after Tucker gig.  Bartiromo tops CNBC.
  • Velshi: We need better fact-checks; flashback: Ali gets facts wrong.
  • Joe & Mika: Yeah we knew about Lauer too. Sunday talkers: preview.

Updated 1:56 pm  Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in this weekend’s open thread.

  • Larry Kelly

    ABC is fake news. Idiots that jump on its stuff as gospel will look like fools: http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/01/media/abc-news-flynn-correction/index.html

    • Minnesota Nice

      Are you calling Joy Behar an idiot? 😉

      • homemaker

        If he doesn’t I certainly will! Joy Behar is an idiot. And I will add that another Joy, Joy Ann Reid is an awful person.

        • Cecelia

          Joy Ann Reid is so cynical and careless.

        • sky303

          for being named Joy they sure aren’t very joyful

          • Son of Rusty Shackleford

            Should’ve been named Joyless.

          • Larry Kelly

            Mr. Bill to Joy B.’s face on THE VIEW.

        • Grandpa D

          “Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!”

      • Larry Kelly

        Kind of like saying ice is cold. Why bother?

      • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

        She ain’t that smart.

    • timdub70

      On the possible Dizz-nee fake news front, ESPN/ABC is announcing that Scott Frost is the new coach at Nebraska while the UCF-Memphis game he’s coaching is still in progress. It is 62-55 UCF and Memphis has the ball in double OT.

    • Brian Ross suspended without pay for a month. fxn.ws/2E9Swb

      • homemaker

        He has botched a big story according to Twitter many, many other times.

        • Minnesota Nice

          These Brian Ross errors weren’t serious to ABC News:
          2001 – Saddam behind Anthrax attacks
          2006 – Abramoff prosecuting Hastert
          2007 – Waterboarding story
          2010 – Toyota Prius defect footage
          2012 – Tea Party Aurora Shooting

        • Cecelia

          Consider that if a woman didn’t blackmail Keith Olbermann out of political commentary with some tell-all threat, he may have quit because of the buzz Brian Ross’ report was having in the media as Trump’s denouement before it was ever aired.

          • Gnome Sayin

            I wouldn’t have been surprised at all if that were happening with Olbermann. What I don’t understand is how his sudden hamfisted “retirement” would have stopped any accuser or media entity working on the story in their tracks.

          • Cecelia

            I don’t mean to sound as though this is a foregone conclusion. I doubt that Olbermann is the sexual harassment type. He’s an egotistical boor, but not especially motivated by nookie.

            It was just an amusing scenario of his not going gently into that good night as he portrayed it.

            That said, a pay day that included a promise to get out of view might be a no-brainer deal depending upon the circumstances.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            It’s all about power and dominance over a weaker prey. Keith Olbermann is the bullying type who would fit the mold.

          • Cecelia

            Bullying types don’t manifest all the same.

          • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

            Add the being a control freak to the mix.

      • Cecelia

        Holy shite! ABC News aired a story so volatile without fully vetting it.

        • Larry Kelly

          That sent the stock market tanking! Wasn’t it an ABC anchor who in a fit of anger said, “get it right people!” after Reagan was shot?

          • sky303

            Peter Jennings spinning in his grave some more…

          • Larry Kelly

            I believe the anchor who blew up in 1981 was Frank Reynolds.

      • Minnesota Nice

        So he is rewarded with a Holiday Break? (h/t Michelle Malkin)

        • Larry Kelly

          I would not be surprised if this doesn’t grease the skids to sled him out the door sooner than later. Liberals own stock too.

        • sky303

          I mean no pay, so he has to go light on the Sangria for while…

          • Minnesota Nice

            True. Honestly, in my financial situation and at my age and stage in my career, I would gladly accept a 4 week non-paid break, aka vacation. 🙂

      • Mitch Alan

        He sent the stock market down almost 400 points with his slanted, dishonest reporting. Some of these people hate Trump so much , they will do or say anything that tends to make him look bad. Ross really should have been fired long ago.

        • Larry Kelly

          Donald J. Trump

          @realDonaldTrump
          People who lost money when the Stock Market went down 350 points based on the False and Dishonest reporting of Brian Ross of @ABC News (he has been suspended), should consider hiring a lawyer and suing ABC for the damages this bad reporting has caused – many millions of dollars!
          8:15 AM – Dec 3, 2017

  • Larry Kelly

    I’ve yet to read an AndrewComment comment and I’m proud of it.

    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      You’re not missing anything.

  • Cecelia

    I hate to tell you this, Johnny, but your “suspended for talking to Tucker” description is kinda fake newsy.

    • Sometimes I give in to temptation. I’ve tried to make it a little less click-baity.

      • Cecelia

        Do tell…

  • Minnesota Nice

    As you know I am a ratings nut. Cashews are #1, Almonds #2, etc. 😉 Anyway I created an automatically generated table in Excel that takes ShowBuzzDaily.com ratings list and creates a grid for cable news dayside, very similar to TVN (but they only do 4 pm to Midnight). See image in link below.

    Cable News Ratings Dayside – Thursday, Nov 30@FoxNews dominated every hour & averaged nearly 1 million MORE viewers than @CNN & 743,600 MORE than @MSNBCHighest rated @FoxandFriends w/@Kilmeade @SteveDoocy @AinsleyEarhardt Lowest rated @NewDay w/@ChrisCuomo AlisynCamerota
    Cable News Dayside Ratings Grid— TRB (@RoadMN) December 2, 2017

    • Mitch Alan

      Dana Perino’s show at 2:00 PM is pretty much a disaster. She is lovely though.

      • Minnesota Nice

        It may be lowest rated Fox News afternoon program on this particular day, but she has 758,000 more viewers than CNN and 768,000 more than MSNBC. It only varies from Out# OT by 54,000 and S.Smith by 81,000. The 1, 2 and 3 pm slots have traditionally been the lowest rated programs at Fox News from 7 am to Midnight. I don’t think Fox News considers it a disaster, especially at this time of day and with nearly more viewers than competition combined.

      • sky303

        Her show is not a disaster , still beating CNN and MSNBC , plus it’s 2 pm /11pt not a whole bunch of ppl watching cable news.

      • Son of Rusty Shackleford

        I’d rather look at Jasper. He’s probably more intelligent, too. Never will forget her “performance” as W’s spokesperson and she had no idea what the Cuban Missile Crisis was.

  • Mitch Alan

    I am starting to like Gillian Turner about as much as I like Marie Harf. Now they are using Turner as an “objective” news anchor? Who is the knucklehead at FNC who is making all of these bad calls?

    • Son of Rusty Shackleford

      I thought Turner was a conservative; seems to me when she first start appearing on
      FNC they were talking about her being a former GOP operative.

  • Cecelia

    Has Matt Lauer had any friends who have uttered a kind word about him? Has there been displays even of the intellectual and emotional denial that naturally rises up when a friend or loved one is accused of wrong?

    So far all I’ve seen are people saying that they are shocked, unaware, and saddened solely in defence of having loved him or of being his cordial colleague.

    There’s been no one say that they still love the man and are heartbroken over him and want all the help in the world for him for him, as they do for the people he hurt.

    We’ve reached a point in this stuff here that is very stern and dire, indeed. And dangerous.

    • TheMightyINB

      I think the morning people (Kathy Lee, etc) said some stuff.

      But maybe behind the scenes, he was really unlikable?

  • Minnesota Nice

    Did you know Ann Curry (formerly of NBC) is married to Brian Ross.

    Okay, it’s not ABC’s disgraced Brian Ross, but a software engineer. 😉

  • homemaker

    At approximately 5:06pm CT there was a very weird exchange between Arthell and Eric. We just turned TV on so have no idea what it was all about. Anyone have any ideas?

    (Oh and Go Bucky!)

    • She was asked about this on twitter:
      @ArthelNeville I’m not gonna read it, you read it @EricShawnTV you want me to read it? @ArthelNeville yeah, you read it! #testy @FoxNews
      Arthell’s answer:
      Producer mix up:Period.

      • homemaker

        Thanks for the info.

  • GATXER
    • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

      Reid pretty much hates everyone but Joy Reid.

    • Saintsfan720

      Not really. Some of these posts are beyond ignorant and obnoxious. Wonder if MSNBC (lean forward!) knew about these posts.

      • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

        Considering all the crapola that she has spewed, they must not only know, but encourage them.

  • Mitch Alan

    Actually, both pronunciations are correct. The dictionary even prefers the one that you dislike so much.

    • These modern day dictionaries are so permissive.

      • Mitch Alan

        Do you pronounce it to-may-to or to-mah-to?

        • Grandpa D

          You say po-tay-toe, I say po-tah-toe.

          • Larry Kelly

            let’s call the calling-off off… damnit!

  • Minnesota Nice

    MSNBC’s homophobic problem:

    Mika Brzenzinki says on Morning Joe that President Trump wanted to have sex with Billy Bush. She knows that claiming someone she doesn’t like is gay is homophobic. Mika has yet to apologize to POTUS.

    Joy Ann Reid from AM Joy show reveals her deeply disturbing homophobia in her blog. Joy is extremely chatty on twitter, but has yet to comment on her either of her twitter accounts.

    No comment yet from MSNBC.

    • She was supposed to make some comment about it today on MSNBC. I don’t know if she did. But it’s curious that she is apparently being made to do some sort of on-air apologia for stuff she wrote on a blog years ago, but Mika gets off scott-free for what she said just last week on MSNBC’s air. How does that work exactly?

      • J.J.

        This note is my apology to all who are disappointed by the content of blogs I wrote a decade ago, for which my choice of words and tone have legitimately been criticized.

        As a writer, I pride myself on a facility with language — an economy of words or at least some wisdom in the selection. However, that clearly has not always been the case.

        In 2007 I was a morning talk radio host and blogger, writing about Florida politics (a blog I maintained until 2011.) Among the frequent subjects of my posts was then-governor Charlie Crist, at the time a conservative Republican, whose positions on issues like gay marriage and adoption by same-sex couples in Florida shared headlines with widely rumored reports that he was hiding his sexual orientation. Those reports were the subject of lots of scrutiny: by LGBTQ bloggers, writers and journalists, conservative blogs, a controversial documentary film called “Outrage,” and even by the comedic writers at South Park. But it was my own attempt at challenging Crist on my blog that has now raised the issue of not just my choice of words, but what was and is in my heart.

        Let me be clear: at no time have I intentionally sought to demean or harm the LGBT community, which includes people whom I deeply love. My goal, in my ham-handed way, was to call out potential hypocrisy.

        Nonetheless, as someone who is not a member of the LGBT community, I regret the way I addressed the complex issue of the closet and speculation on a person’s sexual orientation with a mocking tone and sarcasm. It was insensitive, tone deaf and dumb. There is no excusing it – not based on the taste-skewing mores of talk radio or the then-blogosphere, and not based on my intentions.

        In addition to friends and coworkers and viewers, I deeply apologize to Congressman Crist, who was the target of my thoughtlessness. My critique of anti-LGBT positions he once held but has since abandoned was legitimate in my view. My means of critiquing were not.

        In the years since I went from blogger to opinion journalist, I have also learned, through brilliant friends and allies in the LGBT activist community, how to better frame my critiques of those who challenge people’s right to love who they want, marry them, and walk in the world as fully free people.

        Re-reading those old blog posts, I am disappointed in myself. I apologize to those who also are disappointed in me. Life can be humbling. It often is. But I hope that you know where my heart is, and that I will always strive to use my words for good. I know better and I will do better.

        • Larry Kelly

          Mika is too dumb to attempt a meaningful excuse/apology of this caliber.

  • Cecelia

    Incorrect, but certainly apropos.

  • This weekend’s most popular links:
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    And the most popular link in this weekend’s links…
    1 Twitter erupts over Gretchen’s claim that Greta called her ‘a liar’.

  • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

    It tends to be a regional thing.

  • Nixon – niihpikiiookani

    Am I the only one who keeps confusing Matt Lauer and Brian Williams?

    • Larry Kelly

      Williams is the one who embellishes his victories and Lauer the one who hides them.

  • Nixon – niihpikiiookani
    • Larry Kelly

      “Children of the night. What beautiful music THEY make.” Bela Lugosi, DRACULA, 1931.

  • Larry Kelly

    NBC NEWS tonight, besides dumping on Trump with one sided reporting as usual, had a major, photo filled story of a 17 year old runaway that was rescued from her 27 year old athletic coach. That’s a tragedy deserving of sad looking victim and perpetrator videoed in cuffs, scowling in the back of a police car. Meanwhile critics are fawning over this film of a 17 year old protagonist who apparently is more Oscar-bait than jail-bait http://observer.com/2017/11/review-luca-guadagnino-call-me-by-your-name-is-a-heartbreaking-masterpiece/

    • Mitch Alan

      Couldn’t he have waited another six months?

      • Larry Kelly

        🎶She(we gave her most of our lives)
        Is leaving (sacrificed most of our lives)
        Home (we gave her everything money could buy)
        She’s leaving home, after living alone, for so many years (bye bye)🎶