Boltons from the Blue


The Outfoxed gals have done the impossible--they have surpassed themselves...in dishonesty and ineptness. With J$P Video!

The spin is nothing short of dizzying over at the kennel (i.e. the newshounds, another fine product of the Outfoxed mob). You can thank John Bolton for that; it's like waving a red flag in front of a bull. And the nonsense just spews like Old Faithful on steroids, because all of a sudden facts and truth don't matter.

Newspup Donna's stupid mistake is a small one, but we note it because of her arrogant lecturing of Eric Shawn, and the irony that it's based on her own inability to understand English :
At first he said that you can tell a lot about how people really think about an organization by the grafitti [sic] that is written inside the offices. Shawn said he saw the following written by someone on the walls inside the O.N.O. -- 'Beware, John Bolton is here.' (Comment: Um...Shawn, I don't think this is indicative of how people feel about the organization...

No kidding. Neither does Eric Shawn:

SHAWN: You can tell a lot about how people really think in an organization if you read the graffiti inside the offices.

Just the first example of the media mastiffs creating a mountain of malice out of their own ignorance. Next up is chrish, complaining about the coverage of today's plane crash:
News Corp. holding Global TV provided video and live interviews.

So now News Crop owns Global TV? That will come as a surprise to CanWest Global. (Maybe they're a subsidiary of Vodafone or Vivendi.) Then newspooch deborah, never one to overlook a leftist urban legend, passed this on as fact:
I guess news that President Bush signaled the press crop with his raised middle finger when asked a question he didn't like pretty much sums up the GOP attitude to anyone who gets in their way.

Now you have to know that when a far-left talking point is ridiculed by Keith Olbermann as a phony, only those with several pounds of tinfoil on their headgear are going to swallow it. But this is deborah, and these are the newshounds. Why bother to report facts when you can just read blogs by far-left ideologues and throw their blather into the echo chamber? But maybe deborah was just all worked up about the noisy slugfest she was "reporting" on:
Bob Beckel and Ed Rogers, Republican Strategist, appeared on FNL at 9:15 AM EDT, right after Bolton's recess appointment was announced. Rogers was clearly angry and just plain nasty during the exchange. Beckel was forced to remind him twice that they were good friends in an effort to change the tone.

We know debbie thinks she can get away with all kinds of misrepresentations as long as she sticks to subjective stuff like "angry", "nasty", and "tone". So see the "nasty" and "angry" Rogers, and how Beckel raised their friendship to "change the tone" [QuickTime video clip]:



Newspoodle Melanie tries to pull a similar stunt:
Guest Is Reprimanded for Not Doing the Fox Trot
Today (August 1, 2005), on Your World w/Neil Cavuto, Cavuto held a roundtable discussion about whether the death of Saudi Arabia's King Fahd would have an affect on the stock market. One of the participants was a first-time guest and, well, he needed a nudge before he realized that straight talk was against the rules....After [Cavuto] introduced Jack Steinman of InvestedCentral.com, Cavuto said, "Jack, what do you make of the King going down?" Steinman said, "It has no affect whatsoever. In fact the markets..." Cavuto interrupted, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, sparky. Now, I know you're new here but we've devoted a segment to this and you forgot the key rule of thumb here. If we devote a segment to it, you can't dismiss it. Having said that, continue."...If Steinman wants to be invited back, he'll have to learn that exaggerating and alarming viewers is Fox's MO; he's supposed to play along.

Of course, this is enough to convince the credulous:
That should've been the guest's cue to either A, walk off stage or B, launch into in-depth analysis of why the king's death was irrelevant. I gather that he did neither.

I saw that segment & I was also taken aback by Cavuto's frankness. I thought perhaps he might be kidding at first till I saw the guest start to comply with his wishes.

Yes, the hounds watch Fox "so you don't have to", and yet after all these months this is the first time they've heard Cavuto say something along this line? It's his running joke (sort of like the newshounds, except funny), but Melanie doesn't tell you about the laughter--or the fact that, contrary to the dishonest claim of compliance, the guest went on to say exactly what he had said before Cavuto's mock interruption [QuickTime video clip]:



One commenter did point out the laughing, indicating that the statement was tongue-in-cheek and that the guest went on to say what he had said earlier without alteration. The newsmutts showed their hand again, and quickly deleted the comment. This is what is known as evidence of bad faith.

But when it comes to disinformation, today's winner has to be probie Janie [edited to correct our error--the "morning after" embarrassment was Donna, not Janie. Sorry! --J$]. And once again, the subject is the evil John Bolton:
Yesterday (8/1) on Dayside, guest-host Juliet Huddy spent the majority of the show discussing the recess appointment of O.N.O. Ambassador John Bolton...

We're off to a great start here. Let's see what constitutes "the majority of the show":
  • A block: Bolton
  • B block: London terror
  • C block: Aruba
  • D block: terror investigations
  • E block: NASA
  • F block: missing bridegroom
  • G block: audience chat

Yep, according to JanieMath, that's a "majority".
Huddy began the segment by making a rather snide remark: So will Bolton bring wisdom and expertise as President Bush said, or has he shown a contempt for diplomacy as Democratic Senator Dianne Fienstein suggested? (laughs) I cant [sic] believe that comment. Comments: Really Ms. Huddy? Maybe that's because you haven't done your research on Bolton....If Huddy had bothered to do any research into Bolton, rather than persistently spewing the Republican Party line, she would be able to see that there is some truth to the statements made by Fienstein, and Huddy might be able to "believe" that this comment was made.

And of course, the gullible were ready to lap it all up:
...can you imagine CNN or any other "liberal" news organization saying anything similar? Totally unprofessional.

But we wonder, how did Janie know which comment Ms Huddy was referring to, the one from Bush or the one from Feinstein? Which was it? The astonishing answer: neither one! Janie leaves out a little something that puts everything in a completely different light [QuickTime video clip]:



Now why do you suppose Janie doesn't tell you about that comment?

Of such are the lies of the Fox haters created: take your "facts" from left-wing bloggers (or make them up), misrepresent conversations (both what was said and the "tone"), selectively edit to mislead the credulous who will swallow anything--and make sure any commenter who points out your tactics is swiftly erased from the page. The echo chamber must be kept pure.

posted: Tue - August 2, 2005 at 09:20 PM       j$p  send 

Charles
JD, you do an awesome job with this. For pete's sake, they've never heard Cavuto kidding around with his guest? He's one of the most laid-back, fun hosts ON FNC! Watching it for us... Ha!
August 2, 2005, 9:42:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Of course they've seen him kidding around. So that means that their false characterization of this interview was not simply an error on their part--it was deliberate. After all these months they still harbor the ridiculous notion that they can say whatever they want and nobody will catch on.
 
Apparently they pulled a similar stunt this morning, railing about something Steve Doocy said...and it turns out he was just quoting a report from a newspaper! We'll have to check the tivo on this one as it sounds like a sure thing for our next Report from the Kennel.
August 3, 2005, 12:50:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grumpy Eric
The pack of baying hounds has accidentally let the cat out of the bag.
 
On "Our Hate Mail (continued...)" at http://www.newshounds.us/2005/08/03/our_hate_mail_continued.php is the following post from one of their regular accolytes.
 
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SRP you hit it on the head. These people are so screwed up they think writing to this blog is going to change opinions. Pity the uneducated. they are so beyond letf behind
 
Posted by: edfromned at August 3, 2005 09:50 AM
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I love the admission. Blinded by their beliefs and bragging about it.
 
BTW, most of the "hate mail" being published for that thread is actually quite reasonable, very little discernible hate. A lot of pity expressed. But my my my, the reactions!
 
Newshounds' slogan should be "We Distort, You Deride".
 
/e
August 3, 2005, 2:42:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grumpy Eric
J$,
 
I thought it was Donna, not Janie, who was terminally confused about the morning after pill. Are they one and the same "reporter", or was that a misattribution?
 
But, I do have to agree math is not her strong suit. Neither is logic or even short-term memory, but none of those short-coming prevents the newshounds from misrepresentations of all sorts. In fact, they may very well be prerequisites to be a newshound.
 
/e
August 3, 2005, 3:09:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Grumpy you nailed me on that one. It was my mistake, and I have posted a correction and apology. (See, hounds, how easy it is? Now that you see how it's done, you can go to work on your extensive backlog.)
 
I don't believe Donna and Janie are the same person. However, if you ask me about Donna, Ellen, and "Scarlet PbD"...well, the jury is out on just how many people really make up this unholy trinity.
August 3, 2005, 3:42:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


SLLamp
THANK YOU J$!!! I have often though Scarlet, PbD was one of the mutts in wolf's clothing.
 
And it's easy to confuse them, but thank you for the correction. A real correction is something that is sorely lacking over at the pound...
August 3, 2005, 7:57:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
SLL, the facts are that when Donna was just a probie newshound, she posted through ellen's account and over her name. But then Donna was leaving comments, and some of those appeared through Scarlet's account and over her name. (Those comments have apparently been scrubbed from the site; they must employ a whole staff of people just to delete embarrassing stuff!)
 
So...we report, you decide.
August 3, 2005, 8:08:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


SLLamp
Thanks Johnny, I had not become a regular Newshounds reader until recently. That information just gives me even more evidence to support my suspicions.
 
Keep up the great work!!
August 4, 2005, 8:57:56 AM EDT – Like – Reply


john t
You Dollar followers might want to go to the Newshounds site and see how Dollar lied to you and kind of made you look foolish. He told you he wasn't the Reasonable Man that posts over there. Well he admitts it on the "An Insult To Italy" thread. Read my post at 1:13pm and his post at 2:36pm
August 4, 2005, 12:23:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Please check your medication. TRM admitted nothing of the kind. I urge everyone to go read the comments on that thread and I'll have a special no-prize for the person who can point out where TRM "admits" that he is me. That includes jt, of course.
 
PS: J$ is not TRM.
August 4, 2005, 12:27:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply


john t
Oh! It doesn't matter that I refered to Reasonable Dollar Man and said on your site. Then you come back and say "I was banned". You can spin it all you want Dollar, I don't really care. But I think you owe your 3 regulars an apology.
August 4, 2005, 2:05:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Looks like it's not I lying, but rather jt. Here's what he posted:
 
Reasonable Dollar Man,
You lied over at your site when you said Reasonable Man had been banned from here.
 
Reasonable Man answered:
You think I wasn't banned, john t? I have the screengrabs to prove it
 
So this proves...what? jt claimed trm wasn't banned. trm says, yes I was. Where does trm "admit" that he is J$? Nowhere. The only thing trm admitted is that he is trm. We knew that already.
 
What's more this is entirely off-topic for this thread. You have been warned.
August 4, 2005, 2:42:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


john t
I didn't know TRM had a site. If he does I've never been to it. When I said "on your site" you jumped in real fast. Spin it Dollar spin it.
August 4, 2005, 6:25:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Last word. It doesn't matter whose site it was on. When you claimed he wasn't banned, he said yes he was. It could have been on fark.com and he could still say yes he was. So, you've proved the square root of zero, keeping your record intact.
 
As I said, last word.
August 4, 2005, 6:56:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


john t
No, one last words. I didn't claim he was banned. I just stated that you lied and said he was banned when you're still posting over there.
August 4, 2005, 7:29:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Of course you didn't claim he was banned--you claimed he wasn't banned, or that it was as lie to say he was which amounts to the same thing. He sent me screengrabs of the page that comes up to tell you you are not allowed to post, so I have no reason to doubt him. I'm familiar with that page, having seen it many times! I haven't posted over there (except in their lame, anybody-can-get-in forum) for months.
 
And that is the LAST, last word. Any further comments on this matter in this thread will be summarily (and merrily) deleted. So has it been written, so shall it be done.
August 4, 2005, 7:35:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Jodi
I am convinced Scarlet is one of the hounds split personality
August 6, 2005, 1:46:59 AM EDT – Like – Reply