They Fabricate Like Nobody's Business


When they're out to smear somebody, the Outfoxed gals don't let little things like honesty and truth get in their way. And they've been caught. Again. With J$P Video! Updated!

We have come to expect reckless sloppiness and rank hypocrisy from the newshounds (another fine product of the Outfoxed mafia). But Melanie's latest anti-Cavuto screed is an embarrassment, even for the newspoodles.

Melanie claimed :
When the news is good, Cavuto dives right into it and hammers it home. When it's bad, he minimizes it.

As an example, not that long ago, Mel was foaming about Cavuto opening his program with an upturn in the stock-market:
...the Dow rose 129.20 points and the Nasdaq rose 25.62 points. Today, the first words out of Neil Cavuto's mouth were: "We're gonna look at the big surge in the market today."...Just another tidbit (albeit a significant one) of an example pointing to how Fox News hides or minimizes news that could make George W. Bush look bad, but trumpets and accentuates that which could make him look good.

Note carefully the wording: the "first words" on the program were the market numbers, as Cavuto teased a discussion to take place later. Also note, there were no "swooshes" and "bells" of a "News Alert" drawing attention to the numbers. But Melanie declared this to be "trumpeting" and "accentuating" the story.

Yesterday stocks fell, and here's how Mel described the opening of Cavuto's program:
What do you suppose the first three segments of Your World w/Neil Cavuto were about today (May 10, 2005)? The "most watched business show on the planet," anchored by the "king of business news," led with Martha Stewart and white-collar crime! ...If I were a business news fan, and I saw this "business news" show launch the hour with segments like this, I might assume that nothing much happened at all in the business world today. I say that's exactly what Fox wants its viewers to think.

But Mel has been caught in another lie. Here is exactly how Cavuto "launched the hour":

4:00 PM: Fox Biz Alert on the market downturn [QuickTime video clip]:



Yes, the "first words out of Cavuto's mouth"! According to Melanie own words, that's proof that he was "accentuating" and "trumpeting" the bad news--and with a swooshing "News Alert" to boot. But that doesn't fit the frame Mel has constructed. So what does she do about it? Simple: she just leaves it out!

Instead, she invents three "segments" about Martha Stewart (in fact one segment that totaled about eight minutes), and doesn't even tell the truth about that:
Cavuto introduced reporter Dagen McDowell with: "Martha out of the pokey but getting poked by some angry shareholders today. We're all over that." McDowell reported live from lower Manhattan...

No he didn't:

4:01 PM CAVUTO: Martha meeting her shareholders. A case of out of the fire, into the financial frying pan. Welcome everybody, I'm Neil Cavuto. Well she still is technically under house arrest. The stock's been hit, and the people who own her stock are hitting back. To Degan McDowell on what the world's most celebrated female boss is telling them today. Degan?
Here are some of the headlines that popped up when I Googled "Wall Street" just now: Wall Street Weighs Stagflation Threat, Hedge Fund Rumors Push Stocks Lower, Stocks Droop as Oil Prices Move Higher....

They are also some of the topics that "popped up" when Cavuto spent an entire program block on the market numbers being down. Melanie doesn't tell you about that, but we will [QuickTime video clip]:



The second half hour continued with more business news: in-depth discussions and interviews on Reebok, Broadcom, and tech stocks.

If her readers actually swallow the bilge Melanie is selling, where do the gullible newshound sheep go for business news? Why, to Lou Dobbs on CNN, repeatedly cited with approval by the hounds. He wouldn't try to "minimize" bad market news. He wouldn't load his program up with extraneous topics:
Oh, and maybe they should watch Lou Dobbs on CNN - he is the real expert at what is happening to the American worker.

Smart people watch Lou Dobbs. You really think that a person who is worried about there portfolio will watch Fox, with the likes of Bloomberg, CNBC, and Lou Dobbs. I doubt that very much.

So how did Lou Dobbs cover the "tanking" economy and plummeting markets on Tuesday?

LOU DOBBS, CNN ANCHOR: Tonight, a gaping hole in our national security. Federal agents have seized 1,300 fake badges for 35 different law enforcement agencies, everything from the FBI to the New York City Police Department.
ANNOUNCER: Also ahead on LOU DOBBS TONIGHT, new developments in the schoolgirl murders in Illinois. The federal government's billion-dollar giveaway, help at least for hospitals paying for the high cost of illegal immigration. And America's bright future. A remarkable turn around for a middle school once on the brink of failure. The school's principal is our guest tonight.

What's this? Is the vaunted Lou Dobbs "hiding" the bad economic news? That can't be! Let's check the transcript to see exactly how much coverage Mr Dobbs gave the market plunge on Tuesday:

Topics in the order they appeared:
  • Fake IDs
  • Drivers Licenses for Illegal Immigrants
  • The War in Iraq
  • Illegal Immigrants II
  • Illegal Immigrants III
  • The murder of two children in Illinois
  • The Oil-for-Food Scandal
  • Free Trade
  • The grenade in the audience at Bush's speech (a story ridiculed by the hounds)
  • Illegal Immigrants IV
  • Public education
  • The energy bill
  • The United Nations

So Lou Dobbs, hero of the newspups for his outstanding business news coverage, who would never "minimize" bad news, not only did not discuss the bad market news, he didn't even mention it! According to Melanie's own words, if I were a business news fan, and I saw this "business news" show with segments like this, I might assume that nothing much happened at all in the business world today. But as it turns out, viewers of Fox and Neil Cavuto got the market news that Dobbs ignored.

Not much business news on Lou Dobbs's show. Right, Mel?

Update: Melanie has conceded we were right and has posted a retraction of all her falsehoods. Yeah, and if you believe that we have some lovely oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you.

No, this update is just to document another sloppy bit of nonsense that Mel likes to trot out from time to time:
Fox News edits its "transcripts" for "clarity" so they're not to be relied upon as being true and accurate in the purest sense of the word "transcript."

Yes, they're sneakily rewriting what was said, because nobody has a tivo or a tape recorder so they can get away with changing history. But apparently Mel has a short attention span; she links to a transcript but doesn't bother to read to the bottom of the page:

Transcription Copyright 2005 eMediaMillWorks, Inc. (f/k/a Federal Document Clearing House, Inc.), which takes sole responsibility for the accuracy of the transcription.

Fox News doesn't "edit its transcripts" because Fox News doesn't produce them. eMediaMillWorks does--the same service it has provided for CNBC, MSNBC, PBS, and CNN. And eMMW has the "sole responsibility" for accuracy--not the Orwellian revisionist of Melanie's delusions, secretly working in Rupert Murdoch's basement erasing lines and sentences. And if Mel had investigated a bit further, she might even learn that transcripts from those other sources have also been "edited for clarity", even if they--unlike Fox--don't admit it.

posted: Wed - May 11, 2005 at 12:55 PM       j$p  send 

Mike
When my alter-ego "FOXWatcher" made the point about Cavuto's coverage of the stock market, he was severely castigated for using a very annoying "gotcha" and for being so "smug" about it. His borrowed IP was even banned.
 
BTW, FOXWatcher (aka ConcernedCitizen, TrueConservative, FanOfAnn - and formerly known as the infamous "BrainlessTroll") is not J$ or even a J$ [prostitute], but YOURS TRULY!
 
Ha ha ha
May 11, 2005, 3:04:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Thanks, Mike. Of course the hounds claim FoxWatcher = J$, so that's just another lie we can chalk up to them.
 
Heaven forbid they would allow someone who exposes their falsehoods and lies to actually post at their site. Free speech has its limits in the kennel.
May 11, 2005, 3:08:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply


eric
The hounds ban everyone who exposes their lies. Their hatred towards Fox News is so blatant, they will say or do anything to smear the network.
May 11, 2005, 3:50:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike
The hounds followers display few skills at locating news stories on their own, and rely on the hounds version instead.
 
Example: "john t" - who continually displayed his ignorance here (and was also one of the sleuths that equated FOXWatcher=J$) - posted:
 
"Did they mention anything about the mayor of Spokane Washington, Republican James West. He's accused of using a government computer to elicit sex on gay porn sites."
 
The first hit upon googling James west on fox news.com is:
 
FOXNews.com - Politics - Spokane Mayor Denies Molesting Boys
... Mayor James E. West (search), a Republican foe of gay rights, was accused in a newspaper story Thursday of molesting two boys decades ago and was caught ...
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155657,00.html - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
 
To keep poor "john t" from finding out the truth, "Liz PbD" (a prime newshounds shill) answered:
 
"Now if the Mayor of Spokane was a democrat, we all know how many times a day faux would repeat the story ad nauseum."
 
He will be here shortly and proclaim that this all a "lie."
May 11, 2005, 4:39:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
In fact, that story was reported over and over and Fox. Geraldo did at least one entire segment of his show on it over the weekend, as, if I recall correctly, did Kasich.
 
But as you say, it's all a "lie"!
May 11, 2005, 6:54:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply


john t
Well you know Mickey, since I don't even like watching Fox News on TV why in the hell would I want to go on their website. That's why I asked the question if it was covered on one of their shows. And BTW I use the same name here as what I do at Newshounds. [personal attacks deleted]

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May 11, 2005, 7:01:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply


john t
Oh, I see how it is Dollar. Mickey your little buddy can call me ignorant or whatever but there's no insulting lil'Mickey. I can't believe you two are Republicans, and sharing the same bed.
May 11, 2005, 7:11:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Mike said you "displayed your ignorance", which means you were uninformed on a particular subject. You called Mike playground names. Mike wasn't even talking to you at the time. You were talking to him.
 
[This is my favorite part]: Now perhaps you'd like to address Melanie's lies about Cavuto's program, or the constant shilling for Lou Dobbs. If all the newspoodle sheep faithfully watched Dobbs, they would know NOTHING about the drop in the stock market. Cavuto covered it in depth. Dobbs didn't even mention it.
May 11, 2005, 7:15:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply


john t
No, I'll just say at least I'm not a spineless coward. See I didn't even direct it toward Mickey.
May 11, 2005, 7:24:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Rob S.
This blog is such a huge waste of time. Johnny and his crew are sad and pathetic.
May 11, 2005, 7:34:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


john t
BTW Dollar, I was talking about the post where Mickey said I was showing my ignorance just because I asked a question. Now just because you ask a question is that showing your ignorance? Looks to me like somebody else is showing theirs.
May 11, 2005, 7:37:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike
No john t, I didn't say you were showing your ignorance just because you asked a question. I said you show your ignorance everytime you post by your ridiculous assertions and 3rd-grade spelling/grammar.
 
I said you showed a lack of ability to obtain information on your own by asking a question to known liars.
 
Now maybe you can answer J
May 11, 2005, 7:52:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
No, Mike, he can't answer my question. He thinks that here he can do like over at the kennel, where you can just call someone a name and everyone will congratulate you on your "insight". The concept that facts and substance might actually be the subject matter of a conversation somewhere above the level of a playground at recess time is really foreign to some people.
 
The best they can do is call names, and talk about "sa d and pathetic". But when it comes to facing up to the lies and dishonesty that we have exposed hundreds of times, they run like scalded dogs.
May 11, 2005, 8:10:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply


john t
Mickey, how about pointing out where my third grade spelling and grammar is. Oh, SUPERIOR ONE. I won't mention about the spineless coward part.
May 11, 2005, 8:13:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Rob S.
Well, you are sad and pathetic. This place is pretty much the toilet of the internet. You're mud on the shoe of good people everywhere.
May 11, 2005, 8:18:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Enough. Both parties have had their say on john t's spelling and grammar. Any further discussion on that tangent is off-topic and will be treated accordingly.
 
The topic, in case anyone missed it, is the article "They Fabricate Like Nobody's Business".
May 11, 2005, 8:19:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


john t
Dollar, I'll be serious here. I have never been on this site and seen anybody discuss the topic. That goes for your little buddy Mickey. The only thing I've seen him post is C&P comments from the Newshounds site that doesn't have anything to do with the topic. Just trying to prove he's superior or something. If I come over here and see a comment I've posted on another website and he's saying I'm showing my ignorance and everything else then I'm coming back at him. I guess that's enough said I'm ought of here.
May 11, 2005, 8:39:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike
This is on-topic. The topic is "They Fabricate Like Nobody's Business." In other words, the newshounds misrepresent what was presented on Fox news. That is a fact - Johnny Dollar posts accurate transcripts and video clips that are indisputable. If anyone can find a falsification on J
May 12, 2005, 1:19:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply


tomaig
I imagine there are more than a few who think I'M J$ as well. 
They sure are an intolerant lot, aren't they?
May 12, 2005, 2:14:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I wonder if it's paranoia--to think anyone who points out when they make mistakes/falsify/lie simply must be that arch-criminal Johnny Dollar!
May 12, 2005, 3:56:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Liz PbD
So now I'm a Newshound 'shill'! I see you're still playing 'gotcha' over at the Newshounds and critiquing every word. I didn't think you cared, Johnny . . ROF!
May 13, 2005, 4:38:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I didn't call you a "shill". 
 
And to keep things accurate: I don't critique every word. Only the falsehoods, hypocrisy, and lies. How else do you explain dear Miss Melanie's strange inconsistency? Two Cavuto shows both begin the same way, with the day's market numbers. But when the market went up Melanie claims that's proof he is "trumpeting" the up markets. And the day the market went down she claims that's proof he's "minimizing" them!!
 
Hypocrisy, much?
May 13, 2005, 4:46:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike
I DID call you a "shill". A "shill" is defined as:
 
"a decoy who acts as an enthusiastic customer in order to stimulate the participation of others"
 
You are (1) enthusiastic (you post prolifically); and (2) your posts are designed to "stimulate the participation of others":
 
"Liz you beat me to the punch..."
- Posted by: anisha PbD at March 24, 2005 
 
"Liz, I was going to say that..."
- Posted by: Redder than Red at April 1, 2005
 
"Liz wrote it, but I DO agree!"
- Posted by: Kim, Pb.D at February 3, 2005
May 16, 2005, 12:01:44 AM EDT – Like – Reply