1/6/09 12:37 PM

Outrage! Newshounds Host Racial Smears of Juan Williams

We shouldn't be surprised. The newshounds (another fine product of the Outfoxed gang) have long been purveyors of unsourced personal attacks and vicious hate speech. In her role as "queen bee", Ellen Brodsky has permitted the lowest, most vile sorts of ad hominem libels to flourish for years. And now she is welcoming the most execrable form of hate speech: ugly racial smears.

Let us not forget that this is the site that republished an unsubstantiated rumor accusing a Fox anchor of being a drunken child molestor. That allowed Fox contributor Father Jonathan Morris (pointedly described as "baby faced") to be labeled a "pedophile priest". That specifically approved a comment claiming Fr Morris was a closeted gay and speculated about the size of his penis.

Even worse than what Ellen permits others to write is the mud she herself wallows in. Whether it's using a discredited rumor to call Megyn Kelly a racist and a slut, or tossing in a conjectural slur about another commentator's "sex life", there is no defamation too loathsome. She once even accused this writer of having a criminal record! But in her defense, she had an unimpeachable source: an email...if only she could find it.

This is all merely prelude to the outpouring of racist vituperation that Ellen Brodsky has ushered in to attack, of all people, Juan Williams. After a headline suggesting Mr Williams is a bigot, Ellen starts in with her ritual smear of Hannity as a promoter of "white rights". (This oft-repeated calumny is based on the discredited word of racist Hal Turner, who recently made much the same claims about Tim Russert!) Then, coyly, Ellen tosses in another stink-bomb, asking if Juan Williams "shares Hannity's bigotry". Point made, she can then sit back, smile, and watch the vomitous racial invective fill the comment thread:

  • Juan works weekends as a lawn jockey on the Klannity Plantation.
  • Another tool of Fox they pull out when they need someone to kiss their ass and help spread the message of the White House.
  • They are also playing to their racist drooler audience that think that since he's a Black Man, that he speaks for all Black Men. Well he doesn't. He lets his wallet do the speaking for him.
  • As a black man, I am embarrased by that "I hate I was born black", yassa boss Juan Williams.
  • Juan Williams is just one member of a cadre of Black bashers Hannity and O'Reilly utilize to justify their racist notions.
  • Juan Williams needs to just put on his tap shoes and do a little jig for Klannity on the next show... I mean he'd probably do it considering the amount of bread they're giving his uncle tom ass.
  • After a good Obama bashing, House Negro Juan is often rewarded with some extra bacon grease on his bread.
  • Juan Williams, thinking for himself, dons a tophat [sic] and grabs his cane and taps the [Fox] dance for Hannity!
  • It's just [expletive deleted] sad that these black enablers continue to play house nigra for their masters. Sad thing is, however much they are paid to [expletive deleted] on their own people and no matter how desperately they want to be, they'll never ever be white.
Meanwhile, Ellen Brodsky has been reading these comments, and posting to the thread herself. Her most recent post (1:02 am) was after all of the above, so she cannot claim to have been unaware of this content. She saw it, approved it, and let it stand. Shameful and beneath contempt.




Danny
The exchange between Ellen and Damail is humorous . . . when you think about it.  
 
Ellen hasn't offered any proof of her accusation that Sean Hannity is sympathetic to a white supremacist. She never did when I discussed it with her and she didn't in her exchange with Damail.
 
Instead, Ellen Brodsky (unbelievably) requires Damail to prove her accusations to be false.
 
I would love to say to Ellen (in response), before I do that, I accuse YOU of being an idiot. Now YOU prove me wrong.
 
Actually, in any court, including the court of public opinion the following is true: the accuser must first prove his/her case, which she has never done. Instead, she thinks that her accusations stand (no matter how flimsy the evidence) until she is proven wrong.  
 
That is why Ellen Brodsky is such an idiot.
August 11, 2008, 3:11:20 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
The mere fact that Williams is on FNC is enough to cause a rain of wrath on his head from these morons. Then add some critical analysis by Williams of some small aspect of the Obama campaign or Obama's change in stance on various issues, and you have some real gnashing of teeth on their part.  
 
However, the straw that breaks the jackasses' backs is William's race.  
 
Our News Hounds have assigned to racial minority members, an entire samsonite matched set of philosophies and opinions that Mr. Williams (by working for FNC, and by the occasional criticism of Obama) seems to have ignored.  
 
Yes, it seems Juan Williams has incurred the wrath of the News Curs by not staying in his place.
August 11, 2008, 3:16:14 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
Cecelia,
 
Word
 
Funny, the last comment on the NH comment thread (as I write this) calls JW a "House Negro."
 
That is exactly what Juan is not.
 
That is what has the Newscurrs so mad!!
August 11, 2008, 3:52:12 AM EDT – Like – Reply


LennieG
Excellent article!
 


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Fox Fan
The mutts are exactly the kind of people who would mutter the N word under their breath in the ghetto and later claim to "celebrate diversity" or some other feel-good inclusionary rubbish.
August 11, 2008, 7:13:20 AM EDT – Like – Reply


LennieG
I disagreed with some of the contents of the article but it is a good article for sure.
 
You may not agree, but Juan Williams has issues. He is like a lap dog, saying whatever he believes will please the mainstream.
 
No compassion for Juan Williams here.
August 11, 2008, 7:32:08 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
The comments at NH are inexcusable.  
 
The comments here are paranoic. The broad disdain for Williams in the African-American and liberal communities predates his FNC time. I think it is safe to say that the disdain is unrelated in origin at all to FNC. The FNC tie merely re-enforces the pre-existing, negative view of Williams. All of this goes back to his very difficult personal times at the Post, for which he took some responsibility, and to his fervent support of Clarence Thomas and rather personal and pointed denigration of Anita Hill during the Thomas confirmation period. In the African-American and liberal communities Williams became and has remained an anathema since.
 
We should all recall that Williams is hardly the only public figure to have been permanently tarnished by the Thomas/Hill matter. It has been a problem for Arlen Spectre throughout his post confirmation career, and his support by women declined markedly. It is generally seen as one of a number of stains on the Administration of GHWB. So, none of this should be a surprise.
 
I can certainly understand the strong negative reaction to Williams during the hearings, but I do think that he has redeemed himself over time, with a formidable and admirable body of work at NPR. I enjoy and respect his current work, and I actually seek him out from time-to-time, even on FNC. It is a shame others have not been able to reach this point, because Williams has a Cosbyesque, perhaps Obamaesque approach to African-American life, but with a calm, considered voice and an immediate voice.
 
Although I realize the foregoing opens me up to all measure of scurrilous and scandalous attacks from the usual suspects, the analysis is on target. And, it underscores a rather unattractive tendency we have (NH nothwithstanding) to assume that every criticism of a story or a personality somehow hearkens back to a congenital, chronic dislike, disdain, disrespect for FNC. The job of NH is to offer a critique of FNC. Overstatement is a part of the critique. The overstatement is natural, but NH does its job otherwise poorly. The job of J$P seems to have unfortunately narrowed to unswerving support for FNC and a constant barrage of criticism of Olbermann and MSNBC. Overstatement has become a huge part of the work at J$P. The narrowing of the focus notwithstanding, the job done by J$P, unlike NH, is well done.
 
In other words, folks, it is possible to have issues with Williams, unrelated to FNC and not expressed in racial terms.
August 11, 2008, 8:27:11 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
You start a piece by calling others paranoiacs and then worry that you're soon to be the recipient of supposed "scurrilous" attacks? Oh, sure, Mark, you've been treated just so badly over your OPINIONS (rather than past BEHAVIOR) here.
 
What's your beef really? No one here has insisted that one can't disagree with Juan Williams. NO one here has argued that his position at FNC is the sole reason he's been attacked in racially charged terms.  
 
You read the stuff Johnny linked and have even see today's charming commenter using a racial epithet against the man, for no other reasons than the ones we stated and that YOU echoed-- Williams is a black man who has taken some positions that aren't considered appropriate for his skin color. What other reason is there to call him a "lawn jockey" or an "Uncle Tom", rather than calling him 'misguided' or even an 'idiot'?
 
Yet here you are writing long paragraphs chiding us for defending a man (who is not our ideological soul mate) against that sort hateful thinking.
 
You may find racial epithets "inexcusable", but you don't find them inexcusable enough, Oh Persecuted One. No, not nearly enough. Certainly not as much as you find us that way, even in comparison with some characters that you wouldn't be caught dead with and would spend all day showering if you ever had to shake their hands.
 
Oh behalf of the site and the company in which you spend so much of your time, thanks so very damn much, as always.
August 11, 2008, 9:42:26 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
In your original post, Cecelia, you said:
 
The mere fact that Williams is on FNC is enough to cause a rain of wrath on his head from these morons.
 
In your subsequent post, you said:
 
NO one here has argued that his position at FNC is the sole reason he's been attacked in racially charged terms.  
 
If "mere fact" and "sole reason" are not synonymous, or, at least, markedly similar, then you would have my apology, although the comments were not directed to you.
 
In fact, why not let me offer my apology to you for all the wrongs I have committed against you, in the past. Sincerely. You are far too bright and too enjoyable a person, with interesting tastes and informed opinions, which I find eclectic, not to be able to enjoy. If you are going to be fair, I think you have to admit that beyond the arrogance and smugness you find in me is also someone with informed opinions, often radically different from your own, sometimes remarkably similar, who offers an interesting perspective. Can it be a new day? Please.
August 11, 2008, 10:24:07 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Average American Patriot
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Danny
AAP,
 
I don't really understand your attempt at logic. Johnny has never encouraged anyone to go to NH. He certainly has never encouraged anyone to be as rude as possible to Ellen or any of the NH moderators. You know the way the Ellen has encouraged her faithful to be as rude as possible to Johnny . . . in print no less.
 
I have seen some incredibly vile and abusive posts coming from NH regulars that have now been deleted. I view THOSE abusive posts as coming directly from the pen (computer?) of Ellen Brodsky, since she has overtly commissioned those vile and abusive posts ("you can't be too rude to that little P*)
 
As usual, you and your friends at NH have things backward. It is time for NH to take responsibility for the extreme vile, crude, and juvenile posts, posted here, that NH leaders have directly ordered into existence.
 
Perhaps it would alao help, if NH would clean up the verbal cesspool that is the NH threads (unlike Dollars site where name calling, abusive language, and vulgar insults are promptly deleted). Perhaps then your crap would be less likely to "leak" onto other sites.
August 11, 2008, 10:36:13 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Average American Patriot
Johnny, just how was that post Off Topic?
 
You are trying to hold News Hounds responsible for their articles and comments by their posters. Isn't that the topic?
 
But if someone suggests that you should be responsible for your articles and comments by your regulars, that is off topic?
August 11, 2008, 10:52:39 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
You didn't discuss this site or my regulars. You discussed a third site entirely. And either way, tu quoque is not an argument, it's a logical fallacy.
August 11, 2008, 11:06:59 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
I'm not going to reach the merits, but the use of Latin is appreciated.
August 11, 2008, 11:16:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
After studying it for five years, I have to put it to use sometimes.
August 11, 2008, 11:18:46 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
Cecelia,
 
As you and I know, You could take the sincerity of Mark's 10:29 post and easily insert it into the navel of a gnat.
 
I also agree that Mark's 8:29 post was vacuous, and insubstantive and arrogant. I mean who the Hell is Mark to regurgitate narrow perspectives and assume that they are universally accepted? Who is he to say that someone could be in any way "tarnished" by defending judge Thomas? Why not believe that those who supported Thomas were heroic, and those who opposed him are tarnished? Why not accept Thomas' own words that he was being lynched by those armed with false accusations and smears?
 
Why does Mark in his arrogance believe that his is the only accepted and viable perspective?
 
However, his whole bombast is rendered utterly mute by the following fact: Not long ago Ellen was actually praising Juan Williams. She said that she respected him. I clearly remember her saying this in a conversation I had with her about the Jena 6.
 
There is good reason for her to praise him. Juan Williams has taken issue with Sean Hannity many times. Although his political opinions are eclectic (a trait Mark says he admires, but really does not seem to in Juan's case), he is basically a liberal. I strongly suspect he will vote for Obama in the next election.
 
It is ironic to see liberals once again 'eating their young" or cannibalizing their own kind,  
 
In just a few months (long since Thomas/Hill), Ellen Brodsky's opinion of Juan Williams has drastically changed. Why this sudden shift in her evaluation of a fellow liberal?
 
Ellen (and Mark) viewing Juan from a Marxist/Stalinist perspective, find it inexcusable that Juan does not totally tow the party line. This is particularly inexcusable for a member of a proletariat group (the African American Community).
 
As an African American, Juan is not allowed to have a mind of his own. He must NOT have his own opinions or be eclectic in his political philosophy. He must be a good House Negro, or Ellen will severely punish him. If he strays too far from the reservation, he will be lynched!!
August 11, 2008, 11:30:56 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Average American Patriot
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johnny dollar
aap, I'm willing to give you a shot at posting here, despite your track record. However, you are not above the rules and if you want to make a constructive contribution here, please do so in accordance with the rules, including the ones about language.
August 11, 2008, 11:52:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Average American Patriot
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.11.08 - 11:57 am
 
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You see, Johnny, that is what makes your comments and judgment suspicious.
 
Not one profanity in my previous post. Yet you found some "language" violation.
 
I will also give you the benefit of the doubt.
Make your case, Johnny. Don't issue the whole post. Just argue that part that you found offensive.
August 11, 2008, 12:09:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
AAP,
 
Could I go to Ellen's thread and argue that one of my posts should not have been deleted?
 
If you are honest, you would say "no."
 
Why do you always insist on better treatment that what NH is willing to give to others?
 
However, there is no reason for you to argue about deleted posts on the thread. Why not go to Johnny's email and resolve your problems there?
 
When you get them resolved, then you can come back. That would be the mature way of going about this.
August 11, 2008, 12:26:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
AAP,
 
Since we are all about exchange of ideas between the two sites and Ellen has said that she "bends over backward to give people who disagree with her a platform," could you get her permission to put my first post on this site on the relevant NH comment thread?
 
I would have posted it there, but I assumed that it would have been deleted.
 
Note there is not one profane word in that post . . . unlike many undeleted posts at NH.
August 11, 2008, 12:35:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
this site = this thread the 316 post
August 11, 2008, 12:39:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Average American Patriot
Danny | 08.11.08 - 12:40 pm
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Not sure, but I guess Halo Scan ate my previous comment.
 
I cannot do that. I have no influence over News Hounds.
 
I've had my share of deleted posts because I strayed too far off topic or because I answered insulting the trolls.
 
Another example, "vstol" has some of his post standing, while other non-sensical posts by "vstol" have been deleted at News Hounds.
 
So, go ahead Danny, post what you want. But don't expect the answers to be what you want or in the form you like. It is the nature of communication, which includes rational responses, pity, mockery and insults.
August 11, 2008, 1:50:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Scott
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Danny
AAP
 
Amazingly, the last time I tried to post at NH, I had (amazingly) a relatively troll free intellectual exchange with amused. I exchanged posts with him for a while and left.
 
When I came back hours later, I found a post from Ellen adjuring me that I am not welcome at Newshounds and that I should make my point and leave. She also said that I was not welcome at Newshounds
 
I mentioned that is what I had done; that I had not been back at Newshounds for hours. I also mentioned that one of your moderators says in your forum that different views are welcome at Newshounds as long as the poster is civil and courteous. I never went back to see if that post and all my other posts were deleted. I rather suspect they have been.
 
Since then, on Colmes' site, Ellen said that she "bends over backwards to give people who disagree with her a platform."
 
Well that sure isn't my experience. My posts have often been edited or deleted not because I broke one of the rules listed at the bottom of the forum comments section, but because the moderator disagreed with my ideas. [It was for that reason (and the flagrant abuse I constantly received from the troll on the NH site) that I started posting here.]
 
Now, I have been told that I am not welcome at NH at all.
 
If you want, we can run a little test. I'll post my first post here on the NH thread. Note there is no profanity and it is definitely on topic. I also did not cut and paste anything. Those are my words,.
 
How long do you think that post would remain? Care to hazard a guess?
August 11, 2008, 2:23:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
Scott:
 
You may well have a point, and were it not made in language so offensive that it obfuscates the point, we might all have learned something. What exactly were you trying to say?
August 11, 2008, 2:45:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Another example, "vstol" has some of his post standing, while other non-sensical posts by "vstol" have been deleted at News Hounds.Average American Patriot | 08.11.08 - 1:55 pm
 
Mr. Patriot,
 
Interesting statement, what?
 
How would you know my deleted posts at NH were "non-sensical" since it is rather difficult to read and evaluate deleted posts?
 
My experience has been that exposing errors in the original NH report, refuting arguments of NH commenters and responding to vile name-calling, childish taunts and out and out lies in a forthright manor merits deletion by the ever fair and balanced mods guarding the gate of the pound.
August 11, 2008, 2:47:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
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Thank goodness.
It's sad whenever anyone attacks Juan Williams. He has liberal views, that's for sure, but he is far from what talk radio host Larry Elder would call a "Victicrat." For that, I'm glad.
Thursday's BillOReilly.com newsletter said Juan would be "live with his view from China" this week on "The Factor." So, I guess he's in Beijing for the Olympics. I hope he's on tonight's show.
August 11, 2008, 2:50:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Mark,  
 
The "mere fact" that Williams is a black man working for FNC IS enough to cause News Hounders ( I wrote "these morons") to dislike and to hurl racial epithets at him.
 
YOU took a blog against a particular type of person and turned it into something speaking out against the whole of liberaldom and as some ridiculous argument saying that liberals cannot ever legitimately disagree with Mr.Juan Williams.  
 
THAT silliness became your basis to spin a paranoia or some unreasonable frame of mind on our part that was somehow more dire than the "inexcusable" conduct of essentially being racist.
 
And spin is so much a part of your posts where you're "informed opinions". There's is the feeling of the handler about you-- of the operative.  
 
But beyond that, I can't weigh your words without consideration of past actions any more than you can do that for Larry Craig.
 
lt's nice that you enjoy my thoughts, but then, you can. I've not waged the war you've waged. Until I sense some change in you that bodes an informed 'character', right here is where we'll be.
August 11, 2008, 3:19:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


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Scott | 08.11.08 - 2:28 pm | #  
 
Scott:
 
You may well have a point, and were it not made in language so offensive that it obfuscates the point, we might all have learned something. What exactly were you trying to say?
Mark | 08.11.08 - 2:50 pm | #  
 
How was any of the language offensive? I used the exact language listed in the post that was Quoted by J$. If saying using the same language J$ used to show the venom she spews then the entire post needs to be edited for the same language. And too political? This is about politics and Mr. William's politics that have him attacked by the Mutts.  
 
And what the point was is made clear in the post. That if any Afican- American isn't towing the Liberal agaenda they are traitor's to their party and race. As the language J$ used in his post clearly point's out.
August 11, 2008, 3:26:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I'm sorry Scott if I was unclear. Your quoting of the language from the nh was perfectly ok. But you used it to go off on a political tangent about the Presidential candidates. That can cause entire threads to veer off course. Sorry if I wasn't more clear.
August 11, 2008, 3:30:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
aap, I'm willing to give you a shot at posting here, despite your track record. However, you are not above the rules and if you want to make a constructive contribution here, please do so in accordance with the rules, including the ones about language.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.11.08 - 11:57 am | #  
 
Johnny, I sincerely believe that one day the lamb will be able to lie down with the lion.
 
Until then, cages and door latches are wise and necessary things...
August 11, 2008, 3:33:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
My entire point is that you laid at least some blame for Mr. Williams' treatment at the hand of the liberal response to FNC.  
 
In fact, as I sad liberal disenchantment with Williams predates FNC.
 
Ergo, liberals have issues with Williams wholly unrelated to FNC.
 
The fact that Williams appears on FNC is, to some, salt in the wound.
 
I do hear some conservatives using Williams as proof that FNC is fair and balanced. "Use" is an appropriate terms for this.
 
I do believe some Liberals see Williams as a sell-out and view him as incapable of nuanced understanding, belittling him.
 
Race being what it is in the US, that is probably understandable. But, a pox on both houses!
 
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I had hoped you would be gracious, Cecelia, but obviously it is not an on demand commodity. I will continue to enjoy your posts, respect your views, and I will refrain from any in kind reciprocal unplesantness. Perhaps, some day, your baggage will become too much a burden.
August 11, 2008, 3:50:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Average American Patriot
Danny | 08.11.08 - 2:28 pm
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I have no influence over News Hounds.  
I do not speak for News Hounds's policies.
 
Whatever beef you have with the News Hounds mods, it is yours and theirs. Not mine.
 
The only suggestion I have is that you take your grievances to the News Hounds Forums. I have seen a couple of Forum threads by posters complaining about News Hounds.
 
Let me give you another example.
 
So far, in this thread, Johnny $ has indulged my posts. As Johnny stated, he is taking into account my previous posts insulting the, let's call them, "RW-regulars" and for the time being Johnny $ is giving me a pass.
 
In other words, there might be reasons why the News Hounds mods have black-listed you. I don't know the details, but that is the only conclusion I can reach and I have nothing to do with their policies.
August 11, 2008, 3:50:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Scott
No problem J$ but McCain was never in the post or even thought of while typing my post. Apparently something in it must have gave that impression but the only thing political in it was what the MUTTS must consider Obama if they view Mr. Williams this way as they do Mr. Steele or any African-American or Moderate Democrat that doesn't tow their Marxist line and dare show their face on FOX. Ask Joe Liberman. Anyway no biggie. We settled it via e-mail so life is good again.
August 11, 2008, 3:57:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Average American Patriot
Cecelia | 08.11.08 - 3:38 pm
 
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Geeeee, Cecelia, thanks for the compliment.
You described me as white and fluffy like a lamb as well as furry and fierce like a lion.
 
Actually, I'm more like Bugs Bunny.
 
(Johnny will probably delete this non-sense)
August 11, 2008, 4:16:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
AAP,
 
Actually my first post in this thread is less courteous than anything I have posted here. But, I think that it matches the courtesy that you have shown here. [You have not always made nice comments about Dollar].
 
My posts have all met the three requirements listed at the bottom of the comment section. NH should stick to their stated rules. If the moderators want to be able to delete or edit posts because they don't like the ideas being expressed, they should put it in writing.
 
Ellen should not be running around saying that she "bends over backward to give people who disagree with her a platfor
m" because that is just a flagrant falsehood.
 
That's my beef with Newshounds. It is not a private disagreement. It is a complaint against their public policy.
August 11, 2008, 4:28:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
Cecelia,
 
If you have problems carrying the heavy baggage that Mark says you are carrying, Let me know. I will only be too happy to carry it for you.
 
I am chivalrous like that!!
August 11, 2008, 4:32:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I don't know the details, but that is the only conclusion I can reach and I have nothing to do with their policies.
Average American Patriot | 08.11.08 - 3:55 pm | #  
 
Maybe not, but, you are always the first one to go crying to the mods to have someone deleted for debunking you. Can you explain that?
August 11, 2008, 4:48:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
Be careful how you answer, AAP, as "debunk" or "debunking" can mean any utterance, even a cough or a clearing of the throat.
August 11, 2008, 4:59:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Average American Patriot
Danny | 08.11.08 - 4:33 pm |
 
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Again.  
 
I don't know the details of your particular beef with News Hounds.
I am not speaking for News Hounds.
I am not a MOD at News Hounds.
I am not going to get in the middle of your bickering.
 
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you can start a thread in the Off Topics forums.
Good luck, Danny.
 
Now, I'm going to fry a large cow that recently came on-line.
August 11, 2008, 5:12:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Average American Patriot
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Cecelia
Geeeee, Cecelia, thanks for the compliment.
You described me as white and fluffy like a lamb as well as furry and fierce like a lion.
 
Average American Patriot | 08.11.08 - 4:21 pm | #  
 
Yeah,Patsy, you're the attack pomeranian of a thousand aliases.
 
I hope Johnny sends you back to the Kennel if you start that "bovine" or "bushwipes" or strawman sockpuppet stuff.
August 11, 2008, 5:22:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
If you have problems carrying the heavy baggage that Mark says you are carrying, Let me know. I will only be too happy to carry it for you.
 
I am chivalrous like that!!
Danny | 08.11.08 - 4:37 pm | #  
 
This baggage is light as a feather, Danny...   but thanks very much.
August 11, 2008, 5:26:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
It hurts to see that word no matter who's typing it.
August 11, 2008, 5:31:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Bugs Bunny
Cecelia | 08.11.08 - 5:27 pm
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Probably you didn't get the chance to read my side of the story.
 
I am curious to hear your reasons to attack me, since you were well aware of Jeffy's paranoia.
August 11, 2008, 5:45:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I hope Johnny sends you back to the Kennel if you start that "bovine" or "bushwipes" or strawman sockpuppet stuff.
Cecelia | 08.11.08 - 5:27 pm | #  
 
He's already over there looking for a shouder to cry on.
August 11, 2008, 5:50:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
The attack on Juan is simply more evidence that the Hounds and the Friends of the Hounds are extremist haters with their bigotry showing.
August 11, 2008, 7:11:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply


tony
Why is it that we get banned from NH, but they keep coming over here to post?
August 11, 2008, 7:32:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Why is it that we get banned from NH, but they keep coming over here to post?
tony | 08.11.08 - 7:37 pm | #  
 
Fresh ground to muck up.
 
We'll need a bulldozer in no time.
August 11, 2008, 7:53:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
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August 12, 2008, 12:23:14 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Damail
Danny, I am thrilled to see that you got a kick out of my little dust-ups with Newswoofs. Althogh I do need to check back over there... Simply put, are any of my posts left on that thread? I'm not betting on it.
August 12, 2008, 12:51:38 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
Damail,
 
Keep up the good work!!!
 
I just hope you don't get blacklisted. But, if you do . . . you will be in good company!
August 12, 2008, 3:30:49 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Chinaskee
Average American Patriot,
I've been banned from Newshounds as well. Anybody who exposes the lies of the Newshounds eventually gets banned.They don't like dissension over there.
August 12, 2008, 3:39:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
Dollar,
 
Where did you post at NH. Link please?
 
Also, I'd like to see a copy of your post, so I will know what it said when it is deleted.
August 12, 2008, 3:44:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
http://tinyurl.com/5qmxtk
 
My comment is I think four from the top. Notice how when I point out how the entire premise of the NH article is wrong, the kennel-dwellers continue to babble as though it's still true. It's like English is a foreign language to them unless you're parroting the lies of the newshounds!
August 12, 2008, 3:48:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Damail
Hey Danny, I'm thrilled to see that you got a kick out of my dust-up with Newswoofs. I keep trying to ignore their libelous little Hannity/Turner connection crapola, but it's just too tempting!
August 12, 2008, 10:29:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Danny
Damail,
 
Me too. First time I had tried to post there in a long time. But, for me, it was just too enticing.
 
Especially when Ellen said that you presented no evidence, but you had. You totally shot down her whole case. That was all you needed to do.
August 12, 2008, 11:20:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply