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Thursday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

KO's version of "cut his mic".
Result: Mike Murphy purged from MSNBC?!

Audio: Green room blowup: Lanny Davis vs Pete Schumer!

Wednesday's numbers.
Who's watching whom?

Cable pundits are pro GOP?

Olbermann finally cracks?

MSNBC meltdown: Variety, Politico, Jossip, Gawker, WSJ, FTV, Portfolio, Commentary, New York Mag.

Q&A: Rachel Maddow. Profile: Joe Scarborough. How's that petition going?

Kos boasts "leverage over MSNBC".

Alan's hate mail.

Inside the green room. After the gavel.

Today's firing demand. Today's fakery.

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.

More impressive, viewership at 10 p.m. (which included Sen. Clinton's speech) showed big increases on all three cable news nets compared to the second night of the 2004 Dem confab, with Fox bettering its numbers by 89% to CNN's 64% and MSNBC's 39% -- even though they alone (with PBS) covered the night four years ago.
Fox News was also the only cabler to increase its overall primetime take over Monday night, besting it by 10%, while CNN and MSNBC saw an 8% and 7% dropoff, respectively.
August 28, 2008, 12:39:00 AM EDT – Like – Reply

I have noticed that in the past day or two, the FOX-bashers, MSNBC-supporters, have been claiming victory based on DNC Convention ratings.
"How," you ask, "Could they claim MSNBC had a victory?" Well, apparently they say, (and this is a quote): "nbc, which basically includes msnbc, was the most watched channel for the conventions."
Now wait just a second. Aren't these the same folks who were hooting and hollering when O'Reilly was trashing MSNBC, but kept calling it "NBC News"? Weren't they the one's saying that was "Unfair," and a "Smear," and "They're two different groups!"
Aren't the folks over at NBC saying that the biased coverage from MSNBC, isn't really their problem... and doesn't bleed over to their network?
Perhaps I'm too much of an optimist... but the blatant hypocrisy some of these people put forth STILL surprises me.
August 28, 2008, 12:50:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Love the comments under the fakery item "Obama Biden - Osama Bin Laden, coincidence?
All I can say is that some of these fox haters are big dopes.
August 28, 2008, 12:51:30 AM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
INB, let's not forget the Pew audience surveys, that show Fox's audience far more balanced than CNN's (or MSNBC's). Someone could do weighted ratings, factoring the huge imbalance of Democrats that CNN has into the mix, and they would show that Fox did far better than they should have given the huge audience skew of CNN and MSNBC for Dems.
I think the validity of that will be apparent next week, but we'll see and we'll know.
August 28, 2008, 12:55:12 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Just when I think I can't be more surprised at the anger and the intolerance of the DNC media constituency, they do something even more outlandish.  
I can't believe Chris Matthews hammering Republican consultant Mike Murphy over his humorous remarks about the Clintons voting for John McCain in Nov.
Lighten up, dude...  
Sheesh! If they're not gnashing on each other, they're trying to squelch any off the DNC Script remark.
I'm still adorable but not a young chick anymore and I've never seen anything like it.
August 28, 2008, 4:22:21 AM EDT – Like – Reply

I agree Johnny, that it will be interesting to watch the numbers at next weeks convention and compare them by network. As a dedicated FoxNews watcher, it will also be interesting to see if there are differences in the coverage by Foxy next week. For example, will they be focusing on whether McCain and Rommney have reconciled? What about Huckabee? How can McCain run without criticizing W on issues that he disagrees with him on? These are questions I would like pundits to start addressing and bloviating on tomorrow morning.
August 28, 2008, 8:48:08 AM EDT – Like – Reply

its funny to watch msnbc implode (and sad at the sametime-these are grown men acting like children)-and they still have to work together next week for the republicain convention!! -like i said yesterday-msnbc is a joke!!!
August 28, 2008, 12:19:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply

The latest firing demand begs the question:
What in the world is the official Obama/Biden Campaign website doing running a campaign to get a cable tv political commentator fired?
Does anyone know who this Clint Cooper is?
August 28, 2008, 12:44:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
Which network do you think the average viewer would rather watch? A network where not everyone agrees, but they all get along or a network where not everyone agrees, everyone's a diva, few get along, and there's tons of infighting?
Everyone gets along at FNC. Nobody fights. And if they do, it's just debate, and they're friends again at the end of a segment they appear in.
I don't watch CNN, but they probably get along there.
August 28, 2008, 12:56:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Portfolio.com is the best and fairest of all the articles about MSNBC.
His politics aside, Keith is repeating his bad behavior from all his other ill-fated jobs. Pushing around Tom Brokaw is a definite a no-no.  
The question is how long Phil Griffin and company will trade an office mutiny for temporarily relatively high ratings?
August 28, 2008, 12:59:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
Let me amend my comment about CNN. Jack Cafferty doesn't seem like a guy you could get along with. I'm ashamed I liked him when he was at WNBC and WPIX in the '80s and '90s.
August 28, 2008, 1:39:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply

"This crowd is so in the tank they should film it in a sub." YYYYYEEEEESSSSSS!  
Thanks Johnny and Newsbusters. That was better then 'Diva Keith' having his hissy moment.
August 28, 2008, 2:16:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply

david smawley
Where are the MSNBC NH trolls? Could it be that this Messnbc cesspool is too much for them to bear? No matter, the unraveling will continue with or without comment.
I now hope NBC executives allow this to go on after the conventions, misunderstanding the degree of alienation the childish behavior has caused.
Well, it is a welcome diversion re the Denver circus which thankfully concludes tonight.
August 28, 2008, 7:50:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Olby Sucks
"Where are the MSNBC NH trolls? Could it be that this Messnbc cesspool is too much for them to bear?"
They are buried in denial.
August 28, 2008, 8:28:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
Our pal of many names (Patrick etc) just answered you David. He said "WE post" (i.e. identifying himself as a troll) and then started off on another bout of name-calling. So I didn't let it through.
I'm afraid it's because of people like him that I've had to turn moderation on. Every other message is either name-calling or some sort of foul language. It could well be that there are sane, intelligent people out there in NH land but they seem to let the foul-mouthed trolls do their work for them.
August 28, 2008, 8:44:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply

david smawley
I find it to be quite amusing when they fire round after round at FoxNews, while at the same time, their own wacko loons are at each others throats.
Poetic justice I say. J$, there must be a Latin phrase for this.
August 28, 2008, 9:05:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply