1/6/09 1:05 PM

Thursday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

Wednesday's numbers. Hannity & Colmes get 4.9 million viewers, their second highest of 2008. Rachel, don't pop that champagne yet.

FBN beats CNBC "empty heads"?
AP likes Liz Claman, disses MSNBC.

Video: "dirty" word sparks Fox & Friends walkout.

Greta defends First Dude interview, questions CNN ad.

Jeff Immelt wary of black people! Soledad needs to speak out?

Cafferty wary of white people?

Joe celebrates Keith's fall?

Geraldo wants amnesty.

Profile: John King.
Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.

I really love the "but" in the left's representatives' handling of this story.
"But, if Palin is using a personal e-mail account for state business....."
Once again, fair and balanced FOX NEWS covering the story as well as possibile in a media culture invested in the agenda and political success of the leftwing.  
Greta held her ground well.
If this had been Obama or Hillary....the reaction of the media elite would have been ballistic. There would have been no "buts" tempering the reaction, outrage at the violation of fair play.
Invasion of privacy is ok when it is a conservative, but when it is a liberal there is something evil lurking in the shadows!
September 18, 2008, 8:01:02 AM EDT – Like – Reply

I hate to see Greta do trash like this. It is an important topic. Actually, it is several important topics:
(1) The possibility of hacking.
---Nothing proven, and in a house as tumultuous as the Palin house must be, who knows how these were ontained?
(2) The possibility of conducting state business on a personal e-mail account.
---Who does that? It's grounds for firing with most companies.
(3) The possibility of using personal e-mail to shield impropriety.
---Why didn't she access state server remotely?
There are huge questions here. Hacking alone is a serious crime.
Greta's report had all the substance of a story about fashion choices at the conventions. This is a new low. Could I suggest Greta go back and redo this as a serious and important story? She has the ability, and it's time to show it.
September 18, 2008, 10:39:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply

The hacking needs to be covered as a story, no doubt. The personal email account to avoid FOIA also deserves to be covered. Hopefully our cable media will report on both.
September 18, 2008, 11:14:43 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Let's do hope. I'm counting on Hannity to get all over this.
September 18, 2008, 12:28:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
Are we surprised Geraldo wants amnesty? It's Geraldo. What do you expect?
Joe celebrates Keith's fall, but he'll backtrack when pressured by his bosses...again.
The site that published Palin's personal e-mails is not Daily Kos. I know the site that did, but I don't want to give them satisfaction by naming them.
September 18, 2008, 12:33:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
The last person I saw say the t-word on FNC was Margaret Hoover back in April. But that was on "The Factor," which was recorded two hours before air, and the word was bleeped out.
September 18, 2008, 12:42:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply

1) The possibility of hacking.
---Nothing proven, and in a house as tumultuous as the Palin house must be, who knows how these were ontained? Mark | 09.18.08 - 10:44 am |
The Secret Service is investigating. It's a federal crime. And the left-handed snide remark regarding the Palin household disgusts me. Shame on you!
It's still unclear exactly what happened, who was responsible, or how they obtained access to Palin's personal e-mail. Wikileaks attributed the break-in to the hacker group Anonymous, which has tangled with Scientology in the past.  
September 18, 2008, 1:13:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
Mark is getting better at sticking political jabs into his "comments". I'm sorry I missed the subtlety of that one. I haven't wanted to but it looks like I may have to crack down.
September 18, 2008, 1:33:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
To elaborate, it was during a "He Said, She Said" segment. The topic was a new book aimed at children whose mothers were about to get plastic surgery or implants. If you'd (if Johnny especially would) like, I can provide links to her blog post about the book and/or video of the segment.
September 18, 2008, 1:40:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
Okay, here's Margaret blog post before the segment where she blurted the word: http://margarethoover.com/2008/04/25/my-beautiful-mommy/
The video of the segment: http://tinyurl.com/4mgwx7
And my transcription on Topica of that moment: "Marc [Rudov], actually, you would agree with me on this because... You and I both agree those women's magazines where you flip through every page and you see skinny person after skinny person with big [beep] and small stomachs... Look, this is not helpful for the women in our culture. What's helpful is develop the self-esteem, feel good about yourself."
I hope you enjoyed this trip down memory lane that is only relevant because the same word was uttered on "F&F" this morning.
September 18, 2008, 2:20:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
By the way, it's always funny when the crew and/or talent pretend to walk off the set of any show. "Match Game," for example.
September 18, 2008, 2:22:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Thanks for keeping us abreast...Mike...
September 18, 2008, 2:32:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Why does the wicket thing disagree with the number of the "visitors online" count on the halo scan message box?
September 18, 2008, 2:42:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
Haloscan counts people reading the comments. The 'wicket thing' (I love that!) counts people reading the blog.
September 18, 2008, 2:51:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Thanks for keeping us abreast...Mike...
Cecelia | 09.18.08 - 2:37 pm |
I love it when you talk dirty!
September 18, 2008, 2:56:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
A certain troll left a [deleted] comment on my blog, mistaking my quote of Ms. Hoover (the "women's magazines" part) for my own personal opinion. Like I read those magazines. Give me a break.
September 18, 2008, 3:00:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Well, I have my moments, vstol, but it's not like I'm an FNC guest or anything...
September 18, 2008, 3:09:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
But don't get me wrong. I'm straight and like women.
Now, I watched both nights of Greta's interview with Todd Palin. I thought it was great. I'd watch Hannity's interview with Sarah Palin, but I can't stand the man's voice or his doctrinaire style.
September 18, 2008, 3:41:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Olby Sucks
What the hell is that ratings suppose to mean? Less than 0.05% listened to her.  
WOW! She's really smoking.
john t | Homepage | 09.18.08 - 6:36 pm | #  
I love it when olbyloons/newsliars give this response to Fox News/ratings posts. One would think they could come up with a better response. But, nooooooo! :lol:
September 18, 2008, 6:48:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
What's happened to O'Reilly's Bernie & Jane segments? I haven't seen them for some time.
September 18, 2008, 8:51:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
I've been suckling the teat of the news sites for much of the day in between mountains of calls at work today. While some people have proven themselves boobs by celebrating Olby's fall, others display brains the size of a blue tit's in celebrating Maddow's "victory" even though she still lost vs FNC.  
I've been wondering why Palin doesn't ever wear a nice low cut shirt. It would add boulders to her side of the approval scale!
September 18, 2008, 9:34:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Olby Sucks
What's happened to O'Reilly's Bernie & Jane segments? I haven't seen them for some time.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 09.18.08 - 8:56 pm | #
It's only a once a week segment, right? I think they were on earlier in the week. Just looked, it's on Fridays. I work 7 days a week so my weeks run together.......
September 18, 2008, 10:41:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
>What's happened to O'Reilly's Bernie & Jane segments? I haven't seen them for some time.<
My assumptions are the following: The segment is as good as dead. Jane Hall is still part of the "Fox News Watch" panel on weekends. Bernie (Bernard) Goldberg has retired to Asheville, NC, never to be heard from again. Monica Crowley appeared in Bernie's stead with Jane for three weeks. This was to transition into the new Culture Warriors segment featuring Monica with Margaret Hoover. All of this is what I am assuming. I could be wrong. Boy, Margaret is the woman of the day in this thread; no thanks to me, of course.
OS, the Bernie & Jane segment was a Thursday staple. It was originally called Policing the Press when it debuted in 2006(?), but changed to Weekdays with Bernie & Jane at some point last year.
I actually watched Part 2 of Sean Hannity's interview with Sarah Palin. It was pretty good. I was actually able to tolerate him. And the Governor looks her best when her hair is down.
September 19, 2008, 12:17:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Vince P
I dont know why Jane Hall put herself though going on Bill's show. He would give her 10 seconds to speak
September 19, 2008, 5:20:15 AM EDT – Like – Reply