1/6/09 1:05 PM

Wednesday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

Pat Buchanan: now a campaign issue?

Why Rupert Murdoch dumped DirecTV.

Tuesday's numbers.

Videos: Rove as the new Chuck Todd, Neil Cavuto vs Bill O'Reilly.

Willie Geist joins show honoring arrested protesters.

Lou Dobbs grills Dana Bash.

What if Roger Ailes had saved MSNBC?

Hotline quotes.
Alan's hate mail.

Q&A: John King, Chuck Todd; profile: John Roberts.

CNBC's big day (via Inside Cable News), and their "amazing" ratings.

Enough minutiae!

Say what?

Inside MSNBC's Doc Block survey.

Olbermann's slump?

J$P poll results.
Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




Mark
I get LKL day after so this is probably late, but:
 
Dr. Phil.
Michelle Bachman.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
 
Why?
September 17, 2008, 6:12:13 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
I assume TPM is one of the sites which most of the readers of this site predictably believe to be an incredible liberal lapdog, but there were very intereting and important points made about Candy Crowley, the value of cable news' fairness and balance and Mark Halperin. Even if you don't agree, I trust you can acknowledge the points raised are important.
 
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/cnns_candy_crowley_not_my_role.php
September 17, 2008, 8:59:03 AM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
"I assume TPM is one of the sites which most of the readers of this site predictably believe to be an incredible liberal lapdog"
 
And that post poo pooing Crowley's position proved the leaning once again.
 
A lie is a lie and Obama has been guilty of exagerating his own record while distorting what John McCain has said. Surprise, Obama is nothing new!
 
They are both politicians and lying is part of their DNA. It is not a journalist's job to make subjective judgements on who is the "worse" liar and how that should come into the decision of making that poltician President.
 
The person in the voting booth decides it and chooses to what degree to take it into account along with other multiple factors.
 
I don't need Crowley, Halperin or any journalist or pundit telling me how to think. Perhaps the left wants that type of system, but I'll judge these candidates for myself.
September 17, 2008, 10:18:00 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Perhaps, Crowley was protecting Obama...
September 17, 2008, 11:02:46 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
I'm not sure that I don't agree with you on that one, Cecelia. When media personalities show their predispositions they often hurt the one they live.

Edited By Siteowner
September 17, 2008, 1:41:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


david smawley
Next time Dana Bash goes on with LOU, she better have her you know what together. This brought a big smile to my face
September 17, 2008, 3:17:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
So now we have Olby the Clown repeating again the lies about Palin cutting the budget for special education. Keith Olbermann is a liar, plain and simple.
 
Loved the ratings. I see that Rachel Maddow did better than Olbermann. Of course, BOR once again beats the apcray, ratingswise, out of him...again and again and again!
September 17, 2008, 5:17:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
You know I'm not a clutter fan, but that worldwide map is AWESOME. I haven't seen it before on any site. I zoomed in on it and saw my location pulsing! Too cool, johnny.
September 17, 2008, 8:31:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Yeah, it's a nice little gimmick and I've been in a gimmick mood lately.
September 17, 2008, 8:57:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
How about Maddow crushing Keith Tuesday? Also surprising, H&C on top of O'Reilly.
 
I see that the map shows my location as Clarkston, MI. One city off, but I'm sure it goes by ISP location and not modem location.
September 17, 2008, 9:05:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Re: "Why Rupert dumped DirecTV":
1) I had no idea he did that until now.
2) "...in the past few months [Big Ten Network] has reached distribution deals with most of the major cable operators—it signed deals with Comcast and Time Warner in June and August." But not Cablevision!
3) Speaking of the Long Island monolith, FBN was mentioned in the article. Still not seeing it in my lineup! Stop making ads about Optimum Rewards discounts at Clearview Cinemas, and ads with actors that have never watched News 12 in their lives, and get to adding these damn channels already!!!
 
On another note, thank God for moderation! No Patricks or MikeHs here...unlike at some other site.
September 17, 2008, 10:30:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


ashley
that j$p worldwide map is cool! Showed my location in southern california. Who's the lucky one in Hawaii?????? I'm jealous.
 
Excellent work J$ for jazzing up the joint!
September 17, 2008, 11:46:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
If you click on the map so it opens in a big new page, it will continuously update in real time with links viewed, locations, people online, etc.
September 18, 2008, 12:05:36 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Those blips over seas must be newshounds/trolls using proxies. What do you think of the new gadget, mark?
September 18, 2008, 11:16:53 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
I don't have much opinion of it. I keep getting a "Graph Not Working" legend. When it was working, I was posting from Spain, and the only overseas mark I saw was in Casablanca.
September 18, 2008, 12:27:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Who's the poster in Granit Bay?
September 18, 2008, 12:43:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I was posting from Spain, and the only overseas mark I saw was in Casablanca.
Mark | 09.18.08 - 12:32 pm | #  
 
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LOL! How's El Paso, today?
September 18, 2008, 12:44:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Evidently I have a "neighbor" in Wesley Chapel, FL on this site.
 
I could guess but I'd most likely guess wrong.
September 18, 2008, 12:58:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Vstol, where is Wesley Chapel, FL in relation to any of the major cities?
September 18, 2008, 3:20:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
LOL! How's El Paso, today?
Olby Sucks | 09.18.08 - 12:49 pm | #  
 
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Well, you sure got me with your overwhelming knowledge of Texas geography. First, you had me in the hurricane zone, when I live 300 miles from the coast, then you have me in El Paso, which is 500 miles in the other direction. Which is it, Jeff. I need to know. Enlighten me. Enlighten everyone. What's that I hear? It's Jeff running into his closet. No disgrace, Jeff. You're just wrong and casual with your baseless accusations, as always. They are your most endearing qualities.
 
FYI: If you look at Johnny's new toy (which is now working), you'll discover postings from Valencia. In case you're knowledge of Iberian geography is not what it ought to be, that is in Spain. Guess where I am? Guess where the IP provider the hotel I am staying in is located?
 
Oy! The Barney Fife of gumshoes we have. Geez!
September 18, 2008, 4:06:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Just north of Tampa, across the county line.
September 18, 2008, 4:11:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Well, if you look at the map, there is a star in Iraq. That's me.
September 18, 2008, 6:15:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Thanks. I may be the one that shows at Wesley Chapel but there is possibly anther site for me.
 
Is that who you had pegged?
September 18, 2008, 6:16:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I had no idea that there is a Bemidji, MN.
 
Wikipedia says it's pronounced:
 
/bəˈmɪdʒiː/)  
 
Oh, THAT helps...
 
Anyway, hello whoever is in Bemidji!
September 18, 2008, 7:44:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
I never guessed. Wouldn't be prudent.
 
But if I had, I possibly might have probably taken a shot in the dark with a wild, completely unsubstantiated, meritless, totally without insight or analysis and infundada conjetura de Senor Johnny cee Cecelia Olby Sucks Fox Fan Ashley Mike Grammie.
September 18, 2008, 7:50:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
... there is a star in Iraq. That's me.  
Olby Sucks | 09.18.08 - 6:20 pm | #  
 
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We certainly all know that isn't true. You wouldn't be able to make all of those welcome home parties.
September 19, 2008, 3:26:16 AM EDT – Like – Reply


sharm
"Cecelia:
 
I didn't save it, but I acknowledge I did so, for our mutual benefit. I have a tendency to move on, not to stay locked in time and place, ... " (when it suits me)
September 19, 2008, 1:28:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I didn't save it, but I acknowledge I did so, for our mutual benefit. I have a tendency to move on, not to stay locked in time and place, ... " (when it suits me)
sharm | 09.19.08 - 1:33 pm | #  
 
Roger THAT, Sharon!
September 19, 2008, 7:02:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mark
I get LKL day after so this is probably late, but:
 
Dr. Phil.
Michelle Bachman.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
 
Why?
September 17, 2008, 6:12:13 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
I assume TPM is one of the sites which most of the readers of this site predictably believe to be an incredible liberal lapdog, but there were very intereting and important points made about Candy Crowley, the value of cable news' fairness and balance and Mark Halperin. Even if you don't agree, I trust you can acknowledge the points raised are important.
 
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/cnns_candy_crowley_not_my_role.php
September 17, 2008, 8:59:03 AM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
"I assume TPM is one of the sites which most of the readers of this site predictably believe to be an incredible liberal lapdog"
 
And that post poo pooing Crowley's position proved the leaning once again.
 
A lie is a lie and Obama has been guilty of exagerating his own record while distorting what John McCain has said. Surprise, Obama is nothing new!
 
They are both politicians and lying is part of their DNA. It is not a journalist's job to make subjective judgements on who is the "worse" liar and how that should come into the decision of making that poltician President.
 
The person in the voting booth decides it and chooses to what degree to take it into account along with other multiple factors.
 
I don't need Crowley, Halperin or any journalist or pundit telling me how to think. Perhaps the left wants that type of system, but I'll judge these candidates for myself.
September 17, 2008, 10:18:00 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Perhaps, Crowley was protecting Obama...
September 17, 2008, 11:02:46 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
I'm not sure that I don't agree with you on that one, Cecelia. When media personalities show their predispositions they often hurt the one they live.

Edited By Siteowner
September 17, 2008, 1:41:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


david smawley
Next time Dana Bash goes on with LOU, she better have her you know what together. This brought a big smile to my face
September 17, 2008, 3:17:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
So now we have Olby the Clown repeating again the lies about Palin cutting the budget for special education. Keith Olbermann is a liar, plain and simple.
 
Loved the ratings. I see that Rachel Maddow did better than Olbermann. Of course, BOR once again beats the apcray, ratingswise, out of him...again and again and again!
September 17, 2008, 5:17:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
You know I'm not a clutter fan, but that worldwide map is AWESOME. I haven't seen it before on any site. I zoomed in on it and saw my location pulsing! Too cool, johnny.
September 17, 2008, 8:31:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Yeah, it's a nice little gimmick and I've been in a gimmick mood lately.
September 17, 2008, 8:57:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
How about Maddow crushing Keith Tuesday? Also surprising, H&C on top of O'Reilly.
 
I see that the map shows my location as Clarkston, MI. One city off, but I'm sure it goes by ISP location and not modem location.
September 17, 2008, 9:05:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Re: "Why Rupert dumped DirecTV":
1) I had no idea he did that until now.
2) "...in the past few months [Big Ten Network] has reached distribution deals with most of the major cable operators—it signed deals with Comcast and Time Warner in June and August." But not Cablevision!
3) Speaking of the Long Island monolith, FBN was mentioned in the article. Still not seeing it in my lineup! Stop making ads about Optimum Rewards discounts at Clearview Cinemas, and ads with actors that have never watched News 12 in their lives, and get to adding these damn channels already!!!
 
On another note, thank God for moderation! No Patricks or MikeHs here...unlike at some other site.
September 17, 2008, 10:30:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


ashley
that j$p worldwide map is cool! Showed my location in southern california. Who's the lucky one in Hawaii?????? I'm jealous.
 
Excellent work J$ for jazzing up the joint!
September 17, 2008, 11:46:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
If you click on the map so it opens in a big new page, it will continuously update in real time with links viewed, locations, people online, etc.
September 18, 2008, 12:05:36 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Those blips over seas must be newshounds/trolls using proxies. What do you think of the new gadget, mark?
September 18, 2008, 11:16:53 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
I don't have much opinion of it. I keep getting a "Graph Not Working" legend. When it was working, I was posting from Spain, and the only overseas mark I saw was in Casablanca.
September 18, 2008, 12:27:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Who's the poster in Granit Bay?
September 18, 2008, 12:43:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I was posting from Spain, and the only overseas mark I saw was in Casablanca.
Mark | 09.18.08 - 12:32 pm | # 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
LOL! How's El Paso, today?
September 18, 2008, 12:44:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Evidently I have a "neighbor" in Wesley Chapel, FL on this site.
 
I could guess but I'd most likely guess wrong.
September 18, 2008, 12:58:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Vstol, where is Wesley Chapel, FL in relation to any of the major cities?
September 18, 2008, 3:20:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
LOL! How's El Paso, today?
Olby Sucks | 09.18.08 - 12:49 pm | # 
 
---
 
Well, you sure got me with your overwhelming knowledge of Texas geography. First, you had me in the hurricane zone, when I live 300 miles from the coast, then you have me in El Paso, which is 500 miles in the other direction. Which is it, Jeff. I need to know. Enlighten me. Enlighten everyone. What's that I hear? It's Jeff running into his closet. No disgrace, Jeff. You're just wrong and casual with your baseless accusations, as always. They are your most endearing qualities.
 
FYI: If you look at Johnny's new toy (which is now working), you'll discover postings from Valencia. In case you're knowledge of Iberian geography is not what it ought to be, that is in Spain. Guess where I am? Guess where the IP provider the hotel I am staying in is located?
 
Oy! The Barney Fife of gumshoes we have. Geez!
September 18, 2008, 4:06:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Just north of Tampa, across the county line.
September 18, 2008, 4:11:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Well, if you look at the map, there is a star in Iraq. That's me.
September 18, 2008, 6:15:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Thanks. I may be the one that shows at Wesley Chapel but there is possibly anther site for me.
 
Is that who you had pegged?
September 18, 2008, 6:16:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I had no idea that there is a Bemidji, MN.
 
Wikipedia says it's pronounced:
 
/bəˈmɪdʒiː/) 
 
Oh, THAT helps...
 
Anyway, hello whoever is in Bemidji!
September 18, 2008, 7:44:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
I never guessed. Wouldn't be prudent.
 
But if I had, I possibly might have probably taken a shot in the dark with a wild, completely unsubstantiated, meritless, totally without insight or analysis and infundada conjetura de Senor Johnny cee Cecelia Olby Sucks Fox Fan Ashley Mike Grammie.
September 18, 2008, 7:50:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mark
... there is a star in Iraq. That's me. 
Olby Sucks | 09.18.08 - 6:20 pm | # 
 
---
 
We certainly all know that isn't true. You wouldn't be able to make all of those welcome home parties.
September 19, 2008, 3:26:16 AM EDT – Like – Reply


sharm
"Cecelia:
 
I didn't save it, but I acknowledge I did so, for our mutual benefit. I have a tendency to move on, not to stay locked in time and place, ... " (when it suits me)
September 19, 2008, 1:28:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I didn't save it, but I acknowledge I did so, for our mutual benefit. I have a tendency to move on, not to stay locked in time and place, ... " (when it suits me)
sharm | 09.19.08 - 1:33 pm | # 
 
Roger THAT, Sharon!
September 19, 2008, 7:02:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply