Fox Haters Week in Review
Read all about it: vintage television, FNC's homophobic "tranny", and more fact-check follies. Prepare for yet another action-packed edition of Fox Haters Week in Review!
Lying with Larry:
With Keith Olbermann on an extended "grief leave", his spot has been filled by Democratic strategist Lawrence O'Donnell. And Larry has had no problem taking over Olby's role as chief basher of all things Fox. He was in rare form on the day after the health care bill was signed, as he chatted with his impartial guest expert (from Media Matters!). Quoth Larry:
And on the day it was signed into law, Megyn Kelly spent about 23 seconds on it. That was typically of the day‘s coverage over at FOX.Larry is being more than a tad disingenuous here. While it's true that in her first half-hour Ms Kelly's only mention of the health care law was a brief headline, O'Donnell leaves out the fact that in the 11:00 am-1:00 pm block just prior to Megyn's, health care coverage dominated, with more than an hour and a half of those two hours devoted to the bill, the signing, and the ramifications. So Kelly began her shift by bringing people up to date on other news, and had more health care coverage in her second hour (which Larry ignores).
As for O'Donnell's preposterous allegation that 12 seconds per hour was "typical" of Fox's coverage that day, how gullible does he think we are? That would mean Fox covered it for less than four minutes over 18 hours of broadcasting! Besides the 90 solid minutes noted above, the day was filled with reports, interviews, and analysis on every aspect of the story. Anyone who watched FNC knows all this, but that didn't stop Larry. It's almost as if he were nothing more than a "creepy liar".
Around the Interwebs:

Fox advances misleading GOP attack on NLRB nominee Becker... Fox News advanced the attack that Obama nominee Craig Becker would be an "anti-democratic and anti-free speech" member of the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) because he believed "employers should have no role in union-organizing elections at all." But during a congressional hearing on his nomination, Becker stated that as a board member, he would be bound by law, which includes the "indisputable" right of employers to express views on unionization.Actually Becker's statement used the phrase "current law", but the first thing to note here is that the "GOP attack" wasn't "misleading" at all. Nobody claimed he wouldn't be bound by the current law, only that these were his expressed opinions--which is true.
And then there's a trickier question: how exactly did "Fox" advance this "misleading GOP attack"? Unlike the previous example which fingered Bret Baier, this time MM uses the vague, generic "Fox" as its villain. Did the Articles of Incorporation advance this "GOP attack"? We assume MM is talking about a person, but if so why so vague? Who actually "advanced" the claim?
The interview segment in question was conducted by Megyn Kelly, so it's obvious that she "advanced" the GOP attack--except that she didn't. She never brought it up or mentioned it. Then maybe it was one of those nasty FNC contributors: Mary Anne Marsh was part of the debate. But no, she didn't bring it up either. The guy who did was Justin Sayfie, not an FNC employee, contributor, or even janitor. Just a guest. Unless MM has proof that one of the FNC stagehands whispered the "GOP attack" to Sayfie before he mentioned it, it would seem that nobody from FNC "advanced" the "GOP attack". It was advanced by--surprise!--a GOP guest as part of a fair and balanced debate.
Speaking of Megyn Kelly, did you know she is a raging homophobe? Just ask Abstraction Reaction, who claim that "Megyn’s homophobia is rearing its ugly head" (when they aren't calling her a "tranny"). Or News Blaze: "Megyn Kelly clearly is homophobic". You might wonder why the homophobic Ms Kelly was part of the NLGJA's 15th annual benefit--as a specially invited guest no less. Neither site addresses that conundrum, neatly avoiding the issue by just not reporting it.
Oh, there's someone else who also has called Kelly "homophobic": none other than Ellen Brodsky, leader of the newshounds pack (ETA: or else then guest-blogger Julie). By an odd coincidence, nothing at her site either about the NLGJA benefit. Shocker.
The Other JD:

Ingraham must not have been Googling much lately, either, because she ignored polls which indicate public support for healthcare reform has increased since the bill was signed, and made the claim, "Most people don't like it, they don't want it, and they want it repealed." In fact, a recent USA Today/Gallup poll showed just the opposite -- since the signing of the healthcare reform bill, 48% approve and 40% disapprove. Just because something's on Ingraham's wish list doesn't make it true.The one poll cited by Julie (which carried a disclaimer from Gallup about its "additional bias or error") does indeed exist. But guess what? In order to get to that poll, Julie had to skip over four more recent polls and ignore seven others--all of which went the other way! Doesn't it sound like Julie's been "ignoring polls" that don't agree with her "wishlist"?
At least Ms Driscoll didn't call Laura Ingraham a liar. She reserved that for Ann Coulter, so she could blast Bill O'Reilly for "giving a pass" to all her "lies":
Coulter adopted victim status and opined, ". . . I have a very strong case with the Human Rights Commission here in Canada for the letter that was sent to me by that Provost at University of Ottawa informing me that I might be committing a hate speech crime before I'd ever set foot in the country. That was publicized to at last half a dozen people . . . ." Yes, as Huffington Post reported, ". . . a private letter to her that was mysteriously leaked to Coulter-friendly venues like the National Post, Canada's most conservative national newspaper and to newsmax.com, the website that bills itself somewhat wordily as 'the leading independent online news site with a conservative perspective.'" How many lies can Coulter tell -- and how many times will O'Reilly give her a pass while she tells them?Not to be technical, but what's the lie that O'Reilly let slide? That she got a letter? That it came before she set foot in the country? That it was made public? We may be a trifle old-fashioned on this point, but we still believe the first requirement of a lie is that it be not true.
Comedy of Errors:

Fox Only Cable News Network Not Carrying Obama's Speech At Interior DepartmentBut the linked source does not make that claim, mainly because it ain't true. If only these mongrels had followed the example of rigorous fact-checker Ellen Brodsky, who devotes an entire post to the scandalous trickery of Fox changing the wording of someone else's article:
Fox Nation linked to an article from the Daily Caller called "IRS looking to hire thousands of tax agents to enforce health care laws" and changed the title to make it more inflammatory: "IRS Hiring Thousands of Armed Tax Agents to Enforce Obamacare?" (my empahsis) [sic] The original Daily Caller article said nothing about agents being armed to enforce the law.... Fox Nation took the first three paragraphs of The Daily Caller's article verbatim, except for one addition: Fox changed the sentence, "Republican lawmakers estimate the legislation will require the hiring of many thousands of new tax enforcement agents" to "Republican lawmakers estimate the legislation will require the hiring of many thousands of new (and armed) (my emphasis) tax enforcement agents".... Shame on them! You can contact Fox Nation about these tactics here.There's no question that the articles are different, but a thought occurred to us: how does Ellen know that Fox changed the wording? Isn't it possible that it wasn't Fox who changed the wording but rather the Daily Caller? Oh details, details. Brodsky says it was Fox and that's that. Shame on them!
It didn't take much research to get to the truth. The first clue might be the URL to the Caller's piece, which reads: dailycaller.com/2010/03/22/irs-looking-to-hiring-thousands-of-armed-tax-agents-to-enforce-health-care-laws. Now why would "armed" be in the URL? Could it be that was part of the original article title? Ya think? If reading an URL is too much trouble for Brodsky, then you know doing the Google is going to be out of the question. Because that will turn up all the other sites who quote and link to The Daily Caller writing about "many thousands of new (and armed)" agents.
Without even the most rudimentary sort of verification, Ellen Brodsky writes an erroneous screed, then wants her gullible readers to complain to Fox Nation over something they plainly didn't do. Given her insistence on accuracy, we can be sure Brodsky will post a prominent apology to Fox Nation for her false story. Any day now.
TV or Not TV?

Beck, in his serious, hushed voice, beside his fake TV, acknowledged how chipper he was in the face of the passage of the bill.Of course, Brodsky wouldn't claim Beck's tv was "fake" without proof, right? Well, she does cite evidence: the word of a newsmutt guest blogger! Nothing like going straight to an authoritative source! See for yourself:
It’s Glenda’s newest prop. One really has to compliment the prop department for its creation because it’s almost perfect. It’s an old-timey tee vee, just like the one I used to watch when I was a kid.... Beck’s old-timey tee vee is the perfect lens through which to view and understand everything you need to know about The Beckinator. That’s because the old-timey tee vee is a fake!!! It’s as phony as 3-dollar bill or, if you will, a Glenn Beck frog demonstration. The clue? Beck’s old-timey tee vee is only 6 to 8 inches deep, an impossibility for a tee vee from the ‘50s, which used vacuum picture tubes and were almost two feet deep. Just another phony prop to make another phony point about…what exactly?Yikes, where to begin? How about the image that appears on Beck's "fake" TV?
If you watch the set closely, you'll notice that the vertical is stretched, and the vertical linearity is a little off, the top of the picture seems a bit squashed. As we all know this can be a common problem with tube b&w sets. Unlike many "color conversions" you see being used as props on TV shows, the CRT appears to fit the curvature of the bezel perfectly. Usually prop TV's that have been color converted have a cheap, squared off modern CRT and chassis jerry-rigged into an old cabinet, and they never look quite right due to the differences between the size and shape of the modern CRT and the bezel. Also, the set appears to be tuned to Channel 3. They're probably using an RF modulator to send video to the set from a computer, probably via the s-video out on a PC's video card.But the cabinet has to be two feet deep! Um, sorry, but no:
Actually, I've seen one of these sets in person and they really are that shallow. GE marketed the designer series as being thin and compact.How can that be? A guest blogger says it's a phony, cooked up by "the prop department", and that's that! Right? Ask the person who owns one:
The TV is a GE Coaxial. It is an unusually thin set for it's time The chassis is the original chassis.We have rented it out many many times.... Here is a link to a photo of the actual set....Yes it absolutely is a real set...It uses a regular 21" 110 deg tube, the cabinet is thin but the metal back has a bump to accommodate the tube.Do you know what happened at the beginning of the very program Ellen claims to have seen? Beck banged the top of the set to demonstrate how the image fluttered--proving it's a vacuum tube set and not a prop. Despite that, Brodsky insists it's a "fake" on the say so of a guest blogger--two people who don't know what they're talking about, and neither lifts a finger to determine the truth. As someone once wrote:
Mistakes can add up over time to present a picture of the care and detail (or lack thereof) with which an organization "runs its ship." I believe a lack of attention to detail portends a lack of attention in other areas.Indeed. It's precisely what made the newsmutts what they are today: a joke.
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sarainitaly
LOL! i love these threads!! the TV and the Armed Tax Agents ones are especially sweet.
Larry O'Donnell is a freak.
March 28, 2010, 8:53:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Sara, I met someone this weekend who is a federally licensed armed IRS agent. He just started with the agency out of college.
On another note, Julie, where are you???
March 28, 2010, 9:29:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
You are goading.
March 28, 2010, 10:08:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
Oh, maybe he's goading a little, Mike C., but we're all in this for the debate -- I'm always ready!
March 28, 2010, 10:10:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
Hey Fox Fan -- I'm licking my wounds after Johnny's excoriating rebuttal of my Ingrahm and Coulter posts! But here I am, still standing, ready to try it again lol.
March 28, 2010, 9:55:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
Julie, could you address some of the claims J$ makes about your statements?
March 28, 2010, 10:33:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
Okay -- about the polls (the Ingraham post). He's right in a sense -- there are many polls out there that show the people don't like the healthcare reform bill. There are also many that show the opposite thing. My point was that Ingraham made a blanket statement about people not liking the bill and ignored any polls that said otherwise. And yes, I did the same thing -- to point out the fact that she didn't do her homework.
March 28, 2010, 10:49:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Julie, you are hot. Therefore, I forgive you for any transgressions.
March 28, 2010, 10:52:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
Well, I generally prefer to be admired for my mind . . . but I'll take that.
March 28, 2010, 11:00:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I was talking about your mind.
What on Earth were you thinking?!?
March 28, 2010, 11:03:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
What a relief . . . a hot mind is the sexiest thing going.
March 28, 2010, 11:07:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
About the Coulter/O'Reilly post . . . first of all, O'Reilly is well-informed and does his homework. He of course knew that Coulter herself likely leaked the letter to her fav sites -- if I knew, he knew. He let her get away with way too much spin in that interview . . . I believe on this one J$ is dead wrong.
March 28, 2010, 10:53:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnnydollar
What? I'm wrong?!? How dare you?! Don't you know you'll be banned for life and called all sorts of names for daring to say those verboten words?!!
March 28, 2010, 11:08:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
Oh, yeah, I know, but it's a risk I'm willing to take. Yes, Johnny Dollar . . . I believe you to be partially right on the Ingraham post (at least I'm giving you that!) and wrong on the Coulter. So -- what's Exile Island like, and am I soon to find out?
March 28, 2010, 11:12:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnnydollar
Exile Island is a lovely place. Ask the people who've been there. But you haven't bought a ticket yet.
And I'm not wrong on the O'Reilly/Coulter thing. I notice that you said O'Reilly tolerated a lot of "spin" from Coulter. That seems to be a bit of a backpedal from the original descriptions of Coulter "lies", no? Isn't that a teeny, tiny admission that maybe I did have a point?
March 28, 2010, 11:15:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Julie, I understand the points you are making about your articles, but what about Ellen's stuff? Can you possibly defend her deliberate misconceptions?
March 28, 2010, 11:18:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
FoxFan: This is a public thread and you're certainly holding my feet to the fire . . . but the short answer is, no, if there are DELIBERATE misconceptions from N/H bloggers -- or any other bloggers -- I can't defend it. As noted here, Dollar called me on my spin, but it wasn't a deliberate lie and it was certainly subject to interpretation. A deliberate misstatement is something else, and I try valiantly not to do that. We all apply a spin in some fashion to prove our points -- are you sure it's deliberate misconceptions and not simply a spin?
March 28, 2010, 11:28:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
No, I'm not backpedaling -- I reiterate my word "lied." Yes, lied. You're telling me O'Reilly hadn't seen the entire segment of that clip Coulter claimed had, what, ten minutes in between? You don't think he tried to help her spin her "who me" attitude about Muslims and the no fly list? Uh-huh, Dollar, I'll go to Exile Island before I'll back down on this one. You may have gotten me on Ingraham -- somewhat -- but this one's a lock. If I go to Exile Island, you're going with me.
March 28, 2010, 11:19:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnnydollar
Well at least that way I might get the long-promised dinner.
March 28, 2010, 11:20:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
Well, it was going to be Gibson's, but since you called me out once again in your FHWIR, I think it's going to have to be Billy Goat's Tavern or something. Name the time and place.
March 28, 2010, 11:29:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
Uh, I meant time . . . I named the place.
March 28, 2010, 11:29:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
What the heyyyy! You little vixen! Are you inviting every guy in the Place out to dinner? Something makes me think your intentions are not honorable.
March 29, 2010, 1:24:02 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
Come on, are you really referring to Johnny Dollar as "every guy in the place?" I'm clearly courting favor . . . and you never mentioned dinner, just coffee and beer -- or was that foxfan -- jeez, it's starting to run together. My intentions are always honorable -- depending on what you mean by honorable.
March 29, 2010, 1:31:01 AM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
To answer your question, of course not.
I was planning on us meeting at Starbucks on Milwaukee Ave in Wheeling, then going up the block to Pete Miller's for dinner and dancing to live R & B.
But then I learn about your double date with Danny & Garfield, then barhopping with FF, and now I learn about a promise of a dinner for J$. I guess the next thing I'll find out is you've invited Mike over cake and coffee. At long last woman, have you no shame?
March 29, 2010, 3:09:47 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
First of all, I don't recall making a date with Danny and Garfield (who?!?), and I don't barhop --I'm a lifelong non-drinker! (I think Fox Fan said beer or coffee . . . I opted for coffee, and Cecilia was invited anyway!) As for dinner with Johnny Dollar . . . he's playing hard to get, but I imagine I'll prevail at some point. Have I no shame . . . do you really expect me to answer that . . . .?
March 29, 2010, 12:01:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Great FHWIR, as usual, Johnny!
The oh-so meticulous Ellen strikes again!
March 29, 2010, 12:05:48 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
How about FNC's homophobic recently PREGNANT tranny...
March 29, 2010, 12:26:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Guest
hi
March 29, 2010, 1:01:07 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Alan Gray
Thanks for the plug, it is appreciated.
March 29, 2010, 1:02:04 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
You're welcome! Drive safely!
March 29, 2010, 1:15:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Guest
Sorry for the "hi" I was testing my ID. Anyways, at http://abstractionreaction.wordpress.com/ we post funny political commentary and obviously extrapolate quite a bit (read our disclaimer). However, Megyn going to a gay media event is not evidence of her not being homophobic. It's her job.
March 29, 2010, 1:04:11 AM EDT – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Megyn going to a gay media event is not evidence of her not being homophobic
Forget that this has anything to do with FNC or Megyn Kelly. This statement is simply absurd on its face.
March 30, 2010, 4:13:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I've already gone on record that I'm not acting as FF's cover for his not benign intentions.
If tagged along, before I had even finished my Crystal Light...,he'd be kicking me under the table while making eye motions towards the door...
March 29, 2010, 1:03:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
CC, if I kicked you under the table it would be a gesture of intimacy, not abandonment!
March 29, 2010, 6:41:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Guest
Now look who's without shame . . . toying with all of us.
March 30, 2010, 12:17:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Julie Driscoll
Sorry, Fox Fan, "Guest" was me.
March 30, 2010, 12:35:42 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
What's the large green seven about, Johnny?
March 29, 2010, 1:06:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnnydollar
Good question.
March 29, 2010, 1:10:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
7 days until Al Gore's b-day! I knew you were celebrating it too Johnny, just didn't think you'd be so public about it.
March 29, 2010, 10:48:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Or is that 7 days until Al Gore's doomsday prediction?
March 30, 2010, 8:07:23 AM EDT – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Johnny, thank you for another excellent FHWiR.
My prediction for the countdown, now at 6. Site format change happening on Monday?
March 30, 2010, 12:59:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Son of Blackflon
Dont think so. How can one improve on such a creation? I think a grand finale with Johnny falling on his internet sword so to speak and going out in a blaze of glory.
April 1, 2010, 5:16:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ash
How can anyone believe the hyperventilating anti fox rhetoric at "Newshounds" when Dollar reveals the repeated lies and spin going on there?
April 4, 2010, 5:15:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply