3/7/09 12:51 AM

Newshounds Accused...by Newshounds Regular!

The newshounds (another fine product of the Outfoxed gang) often don't tell the truth. We have documented hundreds of examples. Now, in a stunning reversal, one of their own has called them out for lying--this time not about Fox, but about their own website!

By way of background, there has been trouble brewing lately in the kennel. Comments turned off. Comments turned back on. Then off. Regulars banned. People vowing to quit the site. Some have actually come here (see comment thread) to vent their frustrations. Others have complained on the hound "off-topic forum". To wit:

  • Last one off the blog please turn the lights out.
  • But what also puzzles me is why are the "regulars" - or what have you, the ones always being threatened with banning by the mods (if not banned, in actuality)?
  • Maybe insulting and demeaning customers and subscribers is the way of business nowadays.
  • Bill posted facts and kissing NH's moderator's butts isn't going to change that. What was written at Johnny's site is true. If Chrish is oh so upset, she sure doesn't show it by continually posting, with no comments allowed. It is childish.
  • I personally don't give a rat's ass if you find it childish.
  • I don't think a mass exodus from this blog would be a bad thing. Just to see how long it stays a live [sic] with just Chrish and her little lap dog Uber-Nip...
  • I've always had issues with the mods, frankly. This one takes the cake. Ridiculous. They're destroying their own site over one incident.
  • As for J$, do consider the fact he has not cut anyone off. I've posted a few times and had no problems. Well, "Fox Fan" did not agree, but that is part of the game.
All of which brings us to the just announced new comments policy:
ALL comments must be on topic and civil. Any flames, name-calling, etc., from anyone, will be deleted on sight... News Hounds provides an Off Topic Forum where you can debate in whatever way you like on whatever subject you like, free of interference from us.
Free of interference? Well sure, unless you do the unthinkable: refer to The Site That Must Not Be Named:
  • But I see the link I gave to Dollar's site that shows where NChomsky and some other former NH's are bitching about this site has been deleted. So much for the "free of interference". Posted by: john t
Yes, that's right. The newshounds announce a new comments policy, promise their readers a free-fire zone without interference, and then promptly put the lie to their own statement. And in the best bit of irony this site of O'Henry, they get called on it by one of their own.




NChomsky
They have become Fox News. 
"Here is our point of view, and don't you dare have a different one"
 
It is interesting to see the regulars "vent" and the response...."this wasn't the place or time to reply to you"......huh? I liked the site. I really did. Then after Bill got railroaded, I started paying closer attention. Not a pretty site was revealed. Supposed trolls that they profess to despise, were allowed to post whatever/whenever, regulars were deleted and reprimanded for various supposed infractions. But the truly sad part, the site itself, slanders it's regulars, treats them terribly, deletes them, and the regulars have the audacity to apologize to NH's??!! That is so bizarre. I specifically like Chrish's reply that "we are mad" and yet she continued to post. Boy was she ever mad! Other bloggers? Apparently not so much, because they allowed comments, including Donna, to whom I respect completely. The site went to crap, and she soldiered on, and took the brunt while Chrish hid behind her "anger"......ah well, it was a decent site at one time. Too bad it fell in love with itself and developed totalitarian politicies. I for one will not miss it or reading of it's threats to ban regulars on an almost daily basis.

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January 28, 2008, 1:57:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
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NChomsky | 01.28.08 - 2:02 pm | # 
 
Actually what was edited? Edited for space, grammar, spelling, ect.?
 
Too bad it fell in love with itself and developed totalitarian politicies. 
 
Asise from that, I find this sentence from a angry NH'er beyond hiliarious. First the name of this poster. A communist sympathizer interesting that someone that would post under this name would whine about an Totalitarian regime. Second interesting point in this one sentence is the reason ole Noam is mad, they, NH, are censoring the hate speech that he freely wielded towards those that disagreed with him or his MUTTS. Ole Noam whines about a site that "censor's" him yet uses the name of anarchist and communist and wants that wants to take all private property. Well ole N. Chomsky you and your ilk that are now whining about the MUTTS are the reason we have a 2nd Amendment so you can't take our private property for the good of your ilk. As I stated in another post. Something just isnt smelling right.
January 28, 2008, 2:54:58 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
> Actually what was edited? Edited for space, grammar, spelling, ect.?
 
Just one word, which I think was used unintentionally without realizing it was a violation of one of our language rules.
January 28, 2008, 2:58:23 PM EST – Like – Reply


NChomsky
Scott | 01.28.08 - 2:59 pm 
 
LOL! Hate speech? Um, don't think so Scott. Besides, it would be understandable for someone to edit, censor, or delete opposing comments and views. That isn't the case on that site. They are deleting their own few regulars and leaving those "evil trolls" to do whatever they want. BTW, you give yourself away as a troll with the attack on Noam Chomsky. Only trolls do that.
January 28, 2008, 3:58:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


Vince
To a Leftist a "troll" is anyone who expresses thoughts they disagree with.
January 28, 2008, 5:02:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
Thank you J$. As you certainly know, when one see's, EBSO, it raises flags to those that wish to do harm.
January 28, 2008, 5:12:51 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
Besides, it would be understandable for someone to edit, censor, or delete opposing comments and views.
 
BTW, you give yourself away as a troll with the attack on Noam Chomsky. Only trolls do that.
NChomsky | 01.28.08 - 4:03 pm | # 
 
LMAO, ole Noamy where to begin. Let's start from the bottom. Troll? Yup, I'm a TROLL, True Republican Outting Lying Liberal's. You got me Noam the Commie! Been posting here long before you showed up, trust me Commierad.
 
So it's okay for someone to "edit, censor or delete opposing comment's and views?" So you are whining about the MUTTS censoring yo and ole billy because in your world only you commie's should be able to speak? Or in your world those that diagree must be surpressed? Do explain ole Noamy. Your logic is why communism is DEAD and where it's not the PEOPLE ARE!
January 28, 2008, 5:20:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bill Corcoran
I laughed out loud when I read where the NH OT Forum is open to anyone. Yeah, sure. Somewhere on that thread there is a topic about me using my full name (no problem there), but when I tried to answer the accusations I was BANNED. Yes, BANNED from an open forum thread. In fact,I just checked it out and I''m still BANNED. So much for free speech at NH.
 
Also, I just completed a month-long investigation with the help of Yahoo because someone posted a threatening comment on one of the NH topics using my name. NH's gate-keeper, Ellen I presume, shifted into high gear and wrotig my REAL server (Not Yahoo which I don't ever use) and wanted my account canceled. 
 
Yahoo found out the original e-mail to NH using my supposed Yahoo e-mail address NEVER did come from me and came from a third party. Guess who? 
 
You got it. Yahoo can't tell me who it was that faked the e-mail using a phony Yahoo e-mail address in my name, but they vowed to take serious action and suggested I take the matter up with my local police deparment becuse identity theft is a very, very serious matter. 
 
I don't want to go into anymore details, but I'm going to have the last laugh. 
 
I will say this. The police have the ability to get the name of the person who sent the original e-mail from NH to my server.
 
They can run but they can't hide. 
 
And all this strated because I was the most popular poster on the NH site pulling in over 1200 comment the last two Sundays I posted on that site. Nobody, I mean nobody, has ever come close to those numbers on NH. 
 
As for me, I'm happy to be out of the NH mess and my blog (see link in homepage) is pulling in "hits" from all over the world. Not a lot of comments, but that's OK with me because I just had to arrange for a larger stat counter due to the hits my blog is getting. 
 
Thanks Johnny. Hope this clears up a lot of what happened to me at NH and what is still under investigation by one of the largest police departments in the United States.
January 28, 2008, 5:21:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


NChomsky
Bill Corcoran | Homepage | 01.28.08 - 5:26 pm 
 
Good luck Bill. You didn't deserve the shoddy treatment you received. I enjoyed your posts, and as Johnny said, disagree or not, you have a right to say what you feel like saying. I find it very odd that trolls only seem to be a problem on certain sites. If you read other sites, sure they have trolls, but it does not affect any regular reader/posters. Oh well, NH's has a new slogan!!! We Report, And Decide.
January 28, 2008, 5:28:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


NChomsky
Scott | 01.28.08 - 5:25 pm 
 
Bwahahahaha......you sure is funny
January 28, 2008, 5:29:02 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bill Corcoran
Thanks NChomsky: As Yogi Berra says, "It ain't over until it's over." 
 
I can't believe someone at NH would go so far as to fake an e-mail from me from Yahoo and then write to my REAL internet provider's abuse dept and claim they were going to take legal action against me. 
 
The person who did this thought they were covering their tracks, but they had no idea how I have friends who are able to figure out where an e-mail is coming from. 
 
All this was reported to Yahoo and there furious that their operation was being used by someone at NH to send out a fake e-mail using a fake Yahoo e-mail in my name. 
 
In short, Yahoo does not take this kind of theing lightly and they consider identity theft a very serious problem.
 
Whomever did this to me at NH took on the wrong guy when they took on me. 
 
BTW: Ignore Scott. He is just a troll bomb thrower. On my own blog I told several of the "old" NH gang who come to this sit to pay no attention to Scott. 
 
I had six months of dealing with Scott types at NH and the best thing to do is ignore them.
January 28, 2008, 7:22:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
"BTW: Ignore Scott. He is just a troll bomb thrower."
 
Agreed, He knows it and so does everyone else, the posts are nothing but attack, attack, atttack- never hard facts and often borderline indications of mental illness. 
 
However, I am going to agree with him on one thing- NChomsky is a terrible moniker and signifies a promotion of communism and anarchy.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky#Political_views
January 28, 2008, 7:44:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
Bwahahahaha......you sure is funny
NChomsky | 01.28.08 - 5:34 pm | # 
 
Yes you are crying like all commies Noamie. Crying about censorship and trolls on your site, MUTTS, yet you are posting here. Do explain Noamie.
January 28, 2008, 8:33:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
BTW: Ignore Scott. He is just a troll bomb thrower. On my own blog I told several of the "old" NH gang who come to this sit to pay no attention to Scott. 
 
I had six months of dealing with Scott types at NH and the best thing to do is ignore them.
Bill Corcoran | Homepage | 01.28.08 - 7:27 pm | # 
 
Produce your PROOF OLE BILLY! If you can't then that is SLANDER thus under the laws, as I'm not a blogger, you can be SUED! Prove your statement ole billy boy. I'm waiting! Produce your proof Ole Billy Boy. You have never made any such statement to me nor have I posted on whatever site you claim. Produce or issue a PUBLIC APOLOGY ON THIS BOARD! I'm not a public person thus your slanderous remark can be CAUSE OF ACTION!
January 28, 2008, 8:37:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
Ole Billy still waiting for that dd-214. Claiming to have served and not served is a FEDERAL CRIME. Is that why I'm now a troll on a Fox board by a MUTT POSTER on a ANTI-Fox Board? Dig that hole ole billy. I'm waiting for your proof of my postings on yours and the MUTT BOARD. Got to love tort laws against slandering blogger's when innocent poster's are being slandered and defamed by said bloggers. God Bless America!
January 28, 2008, 8:47:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
as Johnny said, disagree or not, you have a right to say what you feel like saying. I find it very odd that trolls only seem to be a problem on certain sites.
 
So you ole Noamie come over here and decide that you will decide who and what are "trolls." You certainly are a good little noamie. Believe you can show up and take over anything. Wrong move there noamie. Now go back and read 'Animal Farm' and see what happens to noamie and friends. LOL.
January 28, 2008, 8:51:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
"BTW: Ignore Scott. He is just a troll bomb thrower."
 
Agreed, He knows it and so does everyone else, the posts are nothing but attack, attack, atttack- never hard facts and often borderline indications of mental illness. 
 
However, I am going to agree with him on one thing- NChomsky is a terrible moniker and signifies a promotion of communism and anarchy.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Noa...Political_views
Fox Fan | 01.28.08 - 7:49 pm | # 
 
So FF why the statement? I have yet to read anything from you that proves you will stand for your beliefs. Produce your proof of my "bomb throwing." I state my opinon and sometimes it may come across as crass it is in fact true. Now produce evidence of my "bombing throwing" unless you are actually a "troll" as ole noamie might call you if you didn't agree with him. You still upset because the first time I posted you made a statement because I mispelled a word and I corrected your own grammar in stating that fact. Now prove your statement!
January 28, 2008, 8:57:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
BTW, I've been around for quite sometime and made me opinon known but just never posted till recently and that can be proven. 'Nuff said.
January 28, 2008, 9:01:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


Vince P
The NH culture of strife is leaking over here.
January 28, 2008, 9:02:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
[message deleted for rules violation: language, name-calling. Happy to have you post, Scott, but we don't permit name-calling or personal attacks on other commenters. And calling someone a "commie" qualfies. So please dial it down a notch. Thank you so much.]

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January 28, 2008, 9:08:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
Yes it is Vince. And, I believe that is the goal.
January 28, 2008, 9:10:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
I agree with Vince too. Scott, get my email from johnny if you want to discuss this privately. I'm sure there are some misconceptions here.
January 28, 2008, 9:12:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
Fox Fan...J$ has mine too and he's free to give it to you. Scott
January 28, 2008, 9:18:58 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
Poor Nancy must be doing the Noamie the Commie look. No make-up, not that it would help, but come on. Is this the way you noamies want your puppet's too look? She looks bad and ole drunk teddy is sleeping.What a party the dems are. Jackass mascot for the jackasses.
January 28, 2008, 9:23:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
Okay, that was off topic. My bad!
January 28, 2008, 9:24:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


idontcareplzdeletemenooneelsec
commie? and the post was deleted? hah. i called scarborough a f-nut and got deleted. since it wasn't edited but rather deleted, the mind wanders and wonders what horrible thing you said! i thought it was cool to post over here and be noticed more because olbermannwatch.com is so overflowing with comments in the comments section. 90 percent of which are uninteresting, foul, loony, or unnoticed. but it seems theres few enough posts here to allow personal scrutiny of each one, or the rules and standards here are vastly different. whatever the situation, its no pleasure to comment over here unless your a wayward newshound whos been banned, and you know johnny will keep the fight alive. uhg. im beginning to care less anyway... olbermann has firmly established that hes not beating oreilly, ever... and hes is finally being regarded by the masses and MSM as a totally incredible hack. do yourself a fovor, avoid criticism by at least reporting on john gibson's comments. apology on heath ledger. after all, this is most prominent source for gibby audio. and dont throw away a diamond in the ruff.
January 29, 2008, 12:59:37 AM EST – Like – Reply


Bill Corcoran
Just took a gander at News Hounds and look what the lead topic is:
 
http://www.newshounds.us/2008/01/29/_notice_re_comment_policy.php#more
January 29, 2008, 3:41:35 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Sorry but I've edited your name-calling before and it didn't seem to get your attention. It may be just a peculiar, quaint notion of mine, but I continue to believe that there's no reason why people can't discuss issues and passionately disagree, without calling each other names. I still think it can work.
January 29, 2008, 9:31:16 AM EST – Like – Reply


steve
The NH culture of strife is leaking over here.
Vince P | Homepage | 01.28.08 - 9:07 pm | # 
 
no kidding, the comments are on over there if ya'll want to flame and name call like children
January 29, 2008, 11:02:34 AM EST – Like – Reply


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i never unfairly attacked a fellow poster. tv loudmouths should have tough skin anyway. whats olbermann or scarborough good for if you cant throw bricks at them on the tv.
 
i thought you wanted feedback about topics like the MSM, the liberal bias, the phony consevratives ,fox bashing etc. call me egotistical, but when i add something, even if its a rant, i think damn (oops), thats entertainment. thats interesting. thats unique.
 
thats deleted.
 
if the standards are that high, im in the wrong joint! (err, place). you see, i DO have the need to rant. and i try to do it on a relevant website where someone might care. oh, but i see im not doing you any favor, and since your the only one reading the comments, ill just stop. keep up the interesting posts though. i do find some of them unique and entertaining. im surprised you havent reported on gibby's gratuitous comments and resulting backlash re heath ledger. sure its blowing over, but i had to go to tvnewser or some ^%$# to read that one. even newsbusters had it.
 
p.s. iwas shocked to read something like this at olbywatch: F@#*ing something or another. man! we can tell what it says! geez, i expect more from the top!
 
-=0|byh473r=-
 
"hes is finally being regarded by the masses and MSM as a totally incredible hack"
 
...mission accomplished.
January 30, 2008, 1:36:56 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
You can rant all you want as long as you're at least tangentially on topic. And as long as you don't engage other posters in personal attacks or name calling. If you find that such a restriction leaves you with nothing to say, I am sorry because we like to have input here from all sides. As long as it is civil. Repeatedly calling another poster a Communist is not civil.
 
I don't know what Olbermann Watch has to do with all this. I don't run that site. I run this one. For better or for worse. Sorry about that.
January 30, 2008, 11:24:34 AM EST – Like – Reply


NChomsky
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.30.08 - 11:29 am 
 
I can rant? LOL! Yippee! Heck, just posting on your site once, and I was attacked for being a "leftist", a "nutbar" and a "communist" on NH's. Wow, just wow. Wondering if NH isn't really a family run site, where all the members are related to each other, and defend each other. Amazing how they keep their eyes glued to your site though Johnny. Maybe you should put up a "Donate" section like NH's has!!!
January 31, 2008, 8:10:46 AM EST – Like – Reply


smovi
Bill dot worry bro they banned me today, I asked for a link to johny dollars site in the fourm,and they said i was a spamer,things are in a shambles over there, its like a sinking ship any way good luck.
January 31, 2008, 10:14:59 AM EST – Like – Reply


Bill Corcoran
smovi: I'll have to go take a look. I'm still banned from posting on any topic (not that I would even if I wasn't banned) and I'm banned from OT Forum which to me is a laugh. They set up a forum for people to rant, but if you don't rant about what the NH want you to rant about the ban you. 
 
I got news for you. Josef Goebbels from Hitler's Third Reich could have learned a thing or two if they had computers during WWII.
 
Got to go check out my blog. Just posted the story about suicide rates with Iraq war veterans is at an all-time high. 121 Iraq war veterans committed suicide last year. 
 
Is see the story on the Fox News web sites (www.foxnews.com), but I wonder if they will use it on the air. Frankly, I doubt it.
 
On the post on my blog I talk about my experiences with suicide when I was in the Army.
January 31, 2008, 10:52:41 AM EST – Like – Reply