1/19/10 11:18 AM

Friday Links and Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

Thursday's numbers: FNC sweeps again!

Inside Olbermann's head?

MSNBC mulling Ed Schultz? Flashback.

Moving left? CNN's slump (via ICN).

Idov overlooks Olbermann.

Q&A: Betty Nguyen.

Profile: Suze Orman.

Hume honored. Geraldo echoes Pelosi.

Video: Coop w/Ellen, at Hofstra. Vote: Witt v Phillips.

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




LavatoryYen
Why doesn't FOX put Ainsley on more often?
March 20, 2009, 12:46:43 AM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
I wonder how Bill O'Reilly's appearance at the IT HAPPENED TO ALEXA FOUNDATION fundraiser went last night.
 
I wonder if Keith Olbermann will have any follow-up to his coverage of Bill's invite.
 
The failure to derail the fundraiser slips quietly into the continuing history of hate at NEWS HOUNDS.
 
Thankfully.
 
I hope to see Bill's speech transcript somewhere. I am sure it will be better supported with facts/logic, compassionate and sane than Keith Olbermann's silly demogogic screed he spit out last night on COUNTDOWN.
 
Compare and contrast, don't you know.
March 20, 2009, 8:55:56 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
The Friends of course went full steam ahead with their attacks on President Obama over the Special Olympics comment. Yes the comment was an inarticulate way to poke fun at himself....There's always a BUT when it comes to the Friends.
 
This is what the Friends didn't tell their viewers:  
"On his way back to Washington on Air Force One, Obama called the chairman of the Special Olympics, Tim Shriver, to say he was sorry even before the taped program aired late Thursday night.
 
Why didn't they report this fact? The Friends kept saying the president should apologies...When they every well knew he had done so already.
March 20, 2009, 10:30:07 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"The Friends of course went full steam ahead with their attacks on President Obama over the Special Olympics comment. "
 
Except that Brian Kilmeade says he's not criticizing the President over the comment, because "I've been there myself". Now why is Haggis not telling the truth about this? And why should we believe anything else he says? Please back up your claim that there was a 'full steam ahead' attack, given Kilmeade's statement.
 
"Why didn't they report this fact? The Friends kept saying the president should apologies...When they every well knew he had done so already."
 
They knew already? Prove it. Since the earliest online article I can find about the apology is timestamped 8:57 am I want your documentation that somehow they all knew about it three hours earlier.
 
Either back up your claim, or take it back and admit you were wrong.
March 20, 2009, 10:52:18 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
haggis is only here to disrupt a peaceful blog. He needs permanent residence on the island....
March 20, 2009, 11:06:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
Sure, Obama deserves the press "softening" the blow, right Haggis. Compare Obama's gaffe, and how the MSM handled it, to say.....
 
Palin's turkey pressor, or, say.....
 
Bush's gynecologists loving their patients, or any other republican making such a gaffe.
 
Yeppers, F & F really need to get on board in protecting our new CiC from himself when he does not have his teleprompter to tell him what to say.
 
Afterall, that is what our free press is for....the theme of a cool, well-spoken and very talented chief executive must be maintained.
 
Nevermind his slip in showing what he really thinks of the skill and gifts of the wonderful participants in The Special Olympics.
March 20, 2009, 11:14:30 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Haggis is the perfect News Mutt and belongs with Big Momma and her horde of intellectual midgets.
March 20, 2009, 11:24:49 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Paranoia anyone?? GOD!!!!! What losers!!!
 
He can post on the mains, if he remains respectful, as far as I'm concerned (if a mod wants to delete him, that's his or her choice) but it's pretty clear he's not here for dialogue but to aid and abet the smearing of us over at J$. So why should he be allowed in the forum where his only purpose is to goad us into something J$ can later use to smear us?  
Posted by: Ellen on Fri 3.20 10:14a
March 20, 2009, 11:29:38 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
The failure to derail the fundraiser slips quietly into the continuing history of exposing O'Reilly's hypocrisy at NEWS HOUNDS.
 
cee | 03.20.09 - 9:00 am | #  
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And don't speak too soon.
March 20, 2009, 11:31:20 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
He needs permanent residence on the island....
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 03.20.09 - 11:11 am | #  
 
Isn't that a bit cruel to the others residing there?
March 20, 2009, 11:33:49 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Isn't that a bit cruel to the others residing there?
Ashley | 03.20.09 - 11:38 am | #  
 
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Now, that is funny!!!
March 20, 2009, 11:48:28 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
And don't speak too soon.
Pegleg Peggy | 03.20.09 - 11:36 am | #  
 
That's nice, hoping that the fundraiser was derailed, thus preventing needed funds from going to a wonderful organization that provides help for victims of horrible crimes.
March 20, 2009, 11:55:22 AM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
Pegleg Peggy | 03.20.09 - 11:36 am
 
I stand corrected.
 
My bad for confusing donating one's time and energy to help a rape victim's charity as a good, compassionate and honorable act.
 
O'Reilly is a hypocrite for helping them raise some money....I see now.
 
Thank you thought police!
March 20, 2009, 12:06:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
The last I heard from Pegleg she was waxing eloquent about Johhny, on his specialNH homage page, even thinking that it made a difference to her AT ALL to be sent to Exile Aisle.
 
Since she is here now I guess Johnny thought his coconuts had been polished enough for now and Pegleg found she did feel slighted after all.
 
Johnny, you are a good man. No matter how badly you are treated you always act as a forgiving gentleman. :+:
March 20, 2009, 12:24:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
That's nice, hoping that the fundraiser was derailed, thus preventing needed funds from going to a wonderful organization that provides help for victims of horrible crimes.
Ashley | 03.20.09 - 12:00 pm | #  
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Did I say that? Did I ever say anywhere that I wanted the fundraiser derailed and the foundation not to get funds? Did I ever even say they should cancel the fundraiser? Links please.
March 20, 2009, 12:36:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Grammie, don't project your coconut-polishing fantasies on to me please.
 
You may consider it gentlemanly to smear people who are rape victims, and family and friends of rape vicitms, who objected to O'Reilly's appearance. You all know the reasons, as they have been stated a million times over, but you choose to ignore them because, apparently, on this site it is more important to use issues to smear people you don't agree with than to admit they might have a valid point. On this site, scoring points with sophomoric, smartass remarks trumps everything else.
March 20, 2009, 12:45:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Pegleg Peggy | 03.20.09 - 12:41 pm | #  
 
Like CEE, I stand corrected. It's apparent that you are supporting Alexa all the way on this one. It is absolutely evil that BOR wants to help Alexa and that Alexa wants BOR to help them. Their arrangement is completely your business and while you can comment on them, no one and I mean no one is allowed to comment on you. I understand that now.
 
But there is an evil rightwinger holding me hostage and forceing me to write this question:
 
BOR went to speak at Alexa and raise lots of money for them. Do you Pegleg hope he succeeded?
March 20, 2009, 1:05:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
On this site, scoring points with sophomoric, smartass remarks trumps everything else.
Pegleg Peggy | 03.20.09 - 12:50 pm | #  
 
This from a woman who condones the use of the C word to slur women and homophobic comments to slur men.
March 20, 2009, 1:10:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Nevermind his slip in showing what he really thinks of the skill and gifts of the wonderful participants in The Special Olympics.
cee | 03.20.09 - 11:19 am | #  
 
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I'll file this away for the next time I read someone over here dissng liberals for being "politically correct!" ROFLMAO!
March 20, 2009, 1:11:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
OK cee raised the Special Olympics gaffe, Pegleg responded. Let's avoid getting into that any further unless it is regarding the cable news aspect of it.
March 20, 2009, 1:16:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
"On this site, scoring points with sophomoric, smartass remarks trumps everything else."
 
Pegleg Peggy | 03.20.09 - 12:50 pm |
 
Like your "correction" at 11:39 am?
 
Allow me not to be sophomoric then....
 
Regarding the attack on Bill O'Reilly's prescription for keeping ourselves and our loved ones safe from sexual preditors....The viewpoint that believes Bill O'Reilly blames the victim is incorrect and any/all actions derived from that asinine opinion are hateful and wrong (especially trying to thwart the fund raising activities of a good charity).
 
Have I made myself clear on that point.
March 20, 2009, 1:20:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Ashley, your sarcasm cuts no ice with me. I will answer your question after you either provide me with links to prove your earlier assertions about my motives and intetntions, or apologize for making groundless accusations. You and others here have been accusing me of attitudes towards the Alexa foundation which I do not hold. Now put up, one way or the other, or shut up.
 
After you have either provided the requested proof or apologized I will gladly answer your question.
March 20, 2009, 1:27:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
This from a woman who condones the use of the C word to slur women and homophobic comments to slur men.
Ashley | 03.20.09 - 1:15 pm | #  
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I have never, ever used the C word against any woman. I hate that word used that way. Or did I do that and not remember? Got a link?
 
As for homophobic - that I am not. I apologize to any gay men I may have inadvertently offended.
March 20, 2009, 1:30:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
You and others here have been accusing me of attitudes towards the Alexa foundation which I do not hold. Now put up, one way or the other, or shut up.
 
Pegleg Peggy | 03.20.09 - 1:32 pm | #  
 
If you support the Alexa Foundation and their desire to raise money with the help of BOR, I completely apologize. I hope they succeeded and raised lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots, in other words, lots, of money.
March 20, 2009, 1:47:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply


2008
Mar 20 2009 10:17AM EDT  
CNN's March Ratings So Far: More Lamb than Lion
More evidence that CNN is going to have to find a new strategy fast or risk becoming a cable news also-ran: In the month of March so far, the Time Warner-owned network has come in fourth place in prime time among adults 25 to 54
 
Looks like CNN is on its way to extinction.....
 
Meanwhile Fox continues to rule by telling the truth.......no wonder some folks seem to harbor such a deep hatred of Fox eh?

Edited By Siteowner
March 20, 2009, 1:50:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Cee and Ashley, thanks for explaining everything to me. In my blind right wing hatred I never once thought that Pegleg and her cohorts had an absolute lock on THE TRUTH and I was not worthy to even comment on it at all. Now that I have that straight I definitely will never utter so much as a peep in opposition to Pegleg lest she never sofften her opinion that I "consider it gentlemanly to smear people who are rape victims, and family and friends of rape vicitms, who objected to O'Reilly's appearance. "
 
Before I begin on my journey of prayer and penance to reform my evil ways in the eyes of St Pegleg I do have one point to raise with her.
 
I notice many comments directed toward women that are grossly obscene and degenerate as well as less egregious insults. These are directed at both women in the public eye and women who are just names and comments on a blog . I am sure that anything verging on insults directed at women of a sexual nature or gender based by St Pegleg would be a saintly teaching method.  
 
But I have never heard St Pegleg so much as utter a peep of disapproval or warning to any of the holy men and some women in her congregation who seem to revel in such filth.. I am sure St Pegleg is well aware of the vicious disgusting name used for Cecelia b/c I have seen that she comments in that thread.
 
In my right wing stupidity I actually had the gall to imagine that I could decide for myself that if for no other reason their stand on BOR and IHTAF was grossly hypercritical. Like St Pegleg says, thinking for stupid right wingers is definitely dangerous.
March 20, 2009, 1:51:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Either back up your claim, or take it back and admit you were wrong.
johnny dollar | Homepage |
 
"full steam ahead with their attacks"
 
That was simply a snarky comment as you'd say....But Doocy was in full attack mode you have to admit.
 
"I can find about the apology is timestamped 8:57 am"
 
Well GMA(ABC) interviewed Mr Shriver this morning about the apology he received from President Obama....So GMA must have know all about the apology well before 8:57am...Are you saying ABC were the only news outlet knowing of this apology? I really don't think the WH would try and hide it. FNC were caught telling half the story
 
The video from GMA can be found at link below....The video title is "Reaction to Obama's Joke"
 
http://abcnews.go.com/gma
March 20, 2009, 1:54:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Grammie -  
 
:+:
March 20, 2009, 2:05:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"So GMA must have know all about the apology well before 8:57am."
 
Fine, you've demonstrated that GMA knew about it. You have yet to demonstrate that F&F 'knew full well about it', given that they weren't watching GMA and it wasn't reported elsewhere until long after they discussed the subject. So please back up your statement or take it back and admit your error.
March 20, 2009, 2:07:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Speaking of the special olympics - I heard that Olby asked last night "what are we going...they (Obama Admin) going to do about it?
 
Did he say this? If so, does he think he's part of the Obama Administration?

March 20, 2009, 2:08:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply


2008
I hope they succeeded and raised lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots, in other words, lots, of money.
Ashley | 03.20.09 - 1:52 pm | #  
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I hope that they raised a fortune with Bill's help...
 
When I saw the liars at News Mutts doing their best to trash such a fine organization simply because Bill was helping them out I immediately sent in a donation. I hope that many others did the same.
March 20, 2009, 2:10:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
MSNBC Morning Joe reported the apology at 7:25am(video link below)...So if ABC and MSNBC both new about the apology and reported it...So how come FNC didn't?  
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/29789915#29789915
March 20, 2009, 2:17:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Now you've proved that Scarborough knew about it. But I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate that F&F (or maybe now you've whittled it down to just Doocy) knew about it at the time they discussed it. Really, no more diversions. Make the next response your final argument.
March 20, 2009, 2:19:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
J$ - If I may, there is something else I still would like to know which I would not want to be forgotton, something you brought up earlier.
 
Haggy made the claim that "The Friends of course went full steam ahead with their attacks on President Obama over the Special Olympics comment. "
 
You correctly compared his analysis with the facts and responded:
 
"Except that Brian Kilmeade says he's not criticizing the President over the comment, because "I've been there myself". Now why is Haggis not telling the truth about this?  
 
Haggis? You going to answer Johnny or duck and dodge?
March 20, 2009, 2:26:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
2008 | 03.20.09 - 2:15 pm | #  
 
Grteat!
 
Check out the right hand rail right below Johnny's Email contact.
 
I also know besides Johnny and commenters here some at OW also made contributions.
 
What was so egregious about the attack on the IHTAF is that they have only one and one half employee. I got the impression that they were terribly overwhelmed by phone calls and Emails.
 
Sad!
March 20, 2009, 2:26:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
I'm assuming FNC use the same wire services as the other news outlets...Also FNC would have had a reporter on Air Force One covering the California trip....So she/he would have got the press release at the same time the others got it....If they didn't have a reporter on-board they would have got it via those wire services.
The apology obviously wasn't some kind of secret.
March 20, 2009, 2:30:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
The apology was not make public until the following morning on GMA. I conclude that because all press reports I have found cite that interview.  
 
The Quorum has requested that you answer one more question before its ruling. Who were the persons involved in the F&F discussion that you watched? After your answer we will proceed.
March 20, 2009, 2:35:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Cee and Ashley, I can't find Pegleg's post re IHTAF.
 
Could one of you point it out for me so that I may meditate on my sins.
March 20, 2009, 2:48:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
"The apology was not make public until the following morning on GMA"
 
I'll take your word on that....But how come MSNBC were able to report the apology at 7:25am(ET) and there was nothing from FNC.  
 
"Who were the persons involved in the F&F discussion that you watched?"
 
I think about every guest was asked about it...Geraldo/wallace/Right leaning pundit pit/Governor Rendell/I don't think the woman with the money eating dog was asked...But that was funny. Just skim through your tape and you'll find I'm spot on....So I suppose that's me banned now
March 20, 2009, 3:00:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Nibbles
Johnny I think you may have to admit defeat on this one. I'm 99.9999% sure Haggis is right on this. The Friends didn't mention the apology. They had a full hour and a half to do so after MSNBC reported it. I simply can't believe FNC knew nothing about it.
March 20, 2009, 3:07:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
The Moderator's Privilege Quorum rules on The Haggis Matter.
 
Item 1: "The Friends of course went full steam ahead with their attacks on President Obama over the Special Olympics comment."
Findings: "The Friends" were Doocy, Huddy, and Kilmeade. The toughest comment we found from Doocy was "What was he thinking?" and "It was a dumb thing to say". Huddy defended Obama, stating that he didn't mean to be malicious, it was just a joke. Kilmeade gave him a pass, stating that he (Kilmeade) says dumb things all the time. This does not constitute a 'full steam attack' by 'The Friends'. We find this statement to be False.
 
Item 2: "Why didn't they report this fact? The Friends kept saying the president should apologies...When they every well knew he had done so already."
Findings: 'The Friends' didn't keep saying that; as noted above 67% of the hosts defended Obama for a non-malicious slip-up. Haggis has presented no evidence that they 'very well knew he had done so previously'. In fact, all the discussions but one were held before the apology to the SO was made public. And the one discussion held afterward was primarily Geraldo's comments, which were also supportive of Obama. And while those comments were being given, the chyron on screen noted that the White House had made an apology.
 
The Quorum rules: Haggis has not been accurate in his attacks on F&F. He did moderate his original claim that 'The Friends' all attacked Obama over the joke, a claim that is obviously false. Because of that admission, the Moderator's Privilege Quorum will be lenient. Haggis is on restricted access for the remainder of the weekend. No posting of links, and attempts to bring up new topics will be subject to the whim of the moderator.
 
The Quorum has spoken!
March 20, 2009, 3:14:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.20.09 - 3:19 pm |
 
But you will admit you can't find any of the Friends telling(verbally of course) the viewers about the apology.
 
"full steam ahead"
 
johnny you know full well what that comment was designed to do...I knew it wasn't 100% accurate at the time of posting....but it was simply used to stir the pot and get the conversation going....Sort of red meat if you will  I main point was the about the apology....You and I both know they never mentioned it...I'll say no more.
March 20, 2009, 3:28:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Johnny, are you quite sure that The Quorum doesn't want to hang him at high noon after a morinng of festivities follwed by a tumbrel ride to the gallows through the howling crowds?    
 
Just a thought.
March 20, 2009, 3:28:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Nibbles | 03.20.09 - 3:12 pm |  
 
Cheers Nibbles....I know I'm right you know I'm right....Deep down Johnny even knows I'm right. But hey....I'll have a puff and forget about it.
 
Johnny...can you prove FNC didn't know about the apology?
March 20, 2009, 3:33:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
" knew it wasn't 100% accurate at the time of posting....but it was simply used to stir the pot"
 
And how is that different from any of your other comments?
 
"Johnny...can you prove FNC didn't know about the apology?"
 
It's not up to me to prove they didn't. It's up to you to prove they did. And you offered no evidence, no proof.
 
If you want to keep arguing this we can reconvene the Quorum.
March 20, 2009, 3:36:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
we can reconvene the Quorum.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.20.09 - 3:41 pm | #  
 
I second the motion.
March 20, 2009, 3:42:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Grammie | 03.20.09 - 3:33 pm |
 
Remind me not to spill your drink...What is it...an arm or a leg for that one :lol:
 
I second the motion.
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 03.20.09 - 3:47 pm |
 
Shouldn't you be deep undercover at this time of day....Where's the false flag attack occurring this time?
March 20, 2009, 4:05:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Re: Idov overlooks Olbermann.
 
Ignoring several false and misleading statements made by Michael Idov through out his article, I have discovered why Idov did not include Olbermann in his dis of talking heads, Howard Beal comparrisons, and hypothesis that "we seem to have entered a new era of righteous indignation."
 
"Every time a newsman goes bellowing off the prompter, dutiful comparisons are made to Howard Beale,..."
 
"BELLOWING OFF THE PROMPTER"
 
Mr. Olbermann's expressions of "rightous indignations," his "gasping outrage" and his over the top "bellowing," are all ON THE PROMPTER.
 
Pres. Obama's teleprompter now has an official name, TOTUS.
 
Any suggestion for a name for Olbermann's teleprompter?  
 
I report, you decide.
March 20, 2009, 4:10:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Where's the false flag attack occurring this time?
Haggis | 03.20.09 - 4:10 pm | #  
 
You tell me, you made it.......
March 20, 2009, 4:15:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Grammie and Cecelia,
 
I haven't forgotten about you. I've just been waiting for Haggis to hang himself before I posted these. I didn't want them to get lost in all the dust blowing in from Boot Hill.
 
Just a few of the numerous posts by the official women's issues advocate at NH.
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Did you see Cecelia's avatar for today? It looks like a gangrenous penis head. Whose is it, I "wonder"?  
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Posted by: pegleg peggy on Tue 3.17 7:11pm  
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Strong male types"??? Like Ashley???????? Oh, maybe she means Grammie.  
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Posted by: pegleg peggy on Tue 3.17 7:43pm  
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I'll tell you what Dollar Dollies Ashley and Cecelia remind me of (with Grammie as runner-up). Over here the Catholic priests often have female housekeepers who look after them (that's the story anyway, though now and again it turns out that they are actually shacking up, surprise surprise). So you have these priests with these usually late-middle-aged or elderly old harpies (god forgive me but that's what they're like) who have made the priest their "raison d'etre" and act as the first line of defense when someone is trying to get to see him for some reason. It's like, "What do you want with MY MAN?" They're like guard dogs. When you keep the appointment, the "housekeeper" is usually in the room glaring and sending out posessive bad vibes towards the guest, especially if said guest is female. That's what Ashley and Cecelia remind me of. And SucksOlby is like the housekeeper's obnoxious little dog that keeps trying to hump your leg, then takes a dump in the corner and comes back wagging its tail going, "Duuuuuuuhhh, look what I did! Look at me! Look at me!" and then sits down and drags his arse across the carpet.  
 
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Added 3/18:  
 
Note to vstol and cecelia,and anyone else who came running here for a look following vstol's link:  
 
Given the extremely nasty things that get said about NH on a regular basis over there, and some of the disgusting names I have been called - which Dollar let through - if I get pissed off with it once in a while, well, tough. But how you can take comments like mine here and suggest that they somehow invalidate what I have to say about Bilge speaking to the IHTAF defies logic. If we make jokes about the relationship between Mark Koldys and his posters that in no way implies that anyone is "asking for it" if Marky should suddenly decide to sexually assault you (via the tubes; that'd be some trick).  
 
If you want to read a post of mine on the O/T that is far more relevant, go here:  
 
http://forum.newshounds.us/viewtopic.php?t=26518&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=300  
 
Last edited by pegleg peggy on Wed 3.18 7:54pm; edited 2 times in total  
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March 20, 2009, 4:23:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
I defy you Pegleg to prove that you have been called something worse here than Cecelia is called regularly at NH, much less what has been said about Republican first ladies.
 
In other words
 
PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
March 20, 2009, 4:32:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Poor Pegleg. Her outrage at O'Reilly is a fraud. Her only interest is to smear O'Reilly. It's what the News Mutts do.
 
No one with 2 ounces of common sense would construe his comments as "blaming the victim".
 
And before she and her other lady friends decide to rake someone over the coals they should take a look at their own mysoginist posters on their own site.
March 20, 2009, 4:36:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Nibbles
Hannity and Baier have been caught editing a comment coach K (Duke Basketball) made during a press conference about Obama not picking his side. 
 
The 2 of them edited out this part of the comment "Why would I care about that? I love the guy, and I think he's gonna be great." making the part left sound as if he (the coach) was scolding Obama for not paying attention to the economy. Why do Fox continually do this sort of thing? Wasn't it only last week they got caught editing something else?
March 20, 2009, 5:05:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Johnny, the link for Thursday's numbers go here:
 
http://johnnydollar.us/2008a/Don't%20piss%20me%20off.
 
Thanks.
March 20, 2009, 5:10:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
How were they 'caught' editing a quote? Aren't all quotes edited? Maybe they just took it off MSNBC:
 
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/03/19/1843593.aspx
 
Or CNN;
 
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/03/18/coack-k-disses-obamas-basketball-picks/
 
Who used the same version of the quote. Or what is even more likely, they relied on the Associated Press report:
 
http://tinyurl.com/dhg59u
 
So how exactly were they 'caught' editing a comment when they reported the exact same version as CNN, MSNBC, and the originator of the story, Associated Press?
 
"Why do Fox continually do this sort of thing?"
 
Well I think I've explained it's not Fox; it's the exact version of the quote that went out on the AP wire. So I think you owe both of them an apology.
 
Oh, and "why do Fox do"? Interesting syntax for someone whose IP (today) is from IL. Doubly interesting since your post came right after Haggis tried unsuccessfully to introduce this phony smear himself.
 
Do you have something to tell us, Nibbles?
March 20, 2009, 5:11:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Thanks, Grammie. Mea culpa. It's fixed now.
March 20, 2009, 5:14:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
Selective outrage at how quotes are edited?....AP, CNN and MSNBC leave out the rest of what Coach K said and Olbermann also let them get away with it....but not "FAUX NEWS!"
 
Selective outrage is intellectually dishonest. I wasn't surprised that the idiot Olbermann had it for his first story on his show last night....Even before the AIG mess.
 
Putz.
March 20, 2009, 5:16:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


GrandpaD
Thursday's numbers:
 
Link - "http://johnnydollar.us/2008a/
Don't%20piss%20me%20off." - doesn't work.
 
But I understand your feelings.
March 20, 2009, 5:17:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Nibbles
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.20.09 - 5:16 pm |
 
I'm talking about the video they showed of Coach K. That was edited down to show the same part of the quote. There is video of him saying the whole comment freely available. FNC were the ones who edited the video to fit what was wrongly reported by AP.
March 20, 2009, 5:17:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
They made the same judgment that AP did, and showed the newsworthy portion of the quote. I really don't care about Hannity but if you're trying to accuse Baier of some journalistic sin for making the same editorial decisions as AP, CNN, and MSNBC, then it's still a phony smear.
March 20, 2009, 5:20:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Good to see I'm not the only one who sees that Haggis is Nibbles. After the past week of their mutual admiration society, it became obvious. The "why do Fox" thing clinched it for me. Once again inventing a new identity in order to agree with himself.
March 20, 2009, 5:24:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
I really don't like phony smears, and this is now his second one against Bret Baier.
March 20, 2009, 5:25:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Nibbles
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.20.09 - 5:25 pm | 
 
So your saying FNC watched the video and knew exactly what coach K actually said but they went ahead and edited it even thought they knew the AP quote was wrong due to seeing the video. Is that what your telling us?
March 20, 2009, 5:28:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
I can't say which show/shows but I only had Fox on yesterday and I heard the full quote at least twice. Only heard b/c I was using my TV as a radio.
 
If you want to have editorial control why don't you hone your skills and try to get a job influencing the news to fit your version of truth?
March 20, 2009, 5:30:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Nibbles
"Good to see I'm not the only one who sees that Haggis is Nibbles."
 
What are you talking about?
I can't agree with someone without you coming up with a conspiracy.
March 20, 2009, 5:31:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
I have another source that "selectively" quoted Coach K....and it wasn't FNC.....
 
Obama's First Round NCAA Bracket A Bust
 
"Perhaps Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski was right when he said the president should be focusing on the economy, rather than picking NCAA brackets. Obama has picked Duke rival North Carolina to win the title this year."
 
http://cbs2chicago.com/sports/obama.ncaa.bracket.2.963809.html
 
###
Outrage all around please! Poor President Obama needs defending from the press!
 
Where's MEDIA MATTERS when you need them?
March 20, 2009, 5:34:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"So your saying FNC watched the video and knew exactly what coach K actually said but they went ahead and edited it even thought they knew the AP quote was wrong"
 
1. The AP quote was not wrong.
 
B. I'm not saying that, you're saying it. Without evidence by the way.
 
III. Bret Baier didn't have video of the actual statement. So he obviously couldn't have edited it, could he?
 
Too made I didn't make this a Moderator's Privilege issue. Too late, but there's always next time.
March 20, 2009, 5:36:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
This is from the News Mutts site.....
 
vistol, like wantstosuckolbermann, hypocrite houndy, and other j$ sheep, are addicted to NHs. And who could blame them? The conversations and reports are 100 times more intelligent then what they're used to at j
March 20, 2009, 5:39:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Nibbles | 03.20.09 - 5:36 pm | # 
 
It's also quite telling that you chose to ask "what are you talking about" to only me, and not to J$ per his 5:16.
March 20, 2009, 5:40:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Nibbles | 03.20.09 - 5:36 pm |
 
Nibbles....If you stick around long enough....You'll get used to Ashley's little ways. 
Johnny once came up with a fanciful story about me being in cahoots with NH simply because I made a post shortly before they did.
March 20, 2009, 5:40:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I can't agree with someone without you coming up with a conspiracy.
Nibbles | 03.20.09 - 5:36 pm | # 
 
In your case, no.
March 20, 2009, 5:42:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
If I were to wager that the Fox Haters out there are whining in tune with Haggis/Nibbles over the Duke thing, and like Haggles, are also omitting the facts that the other news networks did the same....would I win?
March 20, 2009, 5:43:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I don't think you could find anyone to take that bet!
March 20, 2009, 5:44:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Thanks B - I see another use of the C word by the bassets.
March 20, 2009, 5:45:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Nibbles
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.20.09 - 5:41 pm |
 
The only place FNC could have got the video from is ESPN and they had the entire comment. You may be right about Baier but Hannity certainly had video. Which must have been edited by Fox to fit Hannity's script.
 
Video from ESPN:
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/clip?id=3994497&categoryid=null
March 20, 2009, 5:47:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I believe I told you I wasn't arguing about Hannity. I don't care about Hannity. He is almost (but not quite) as biased and one-sided as Olbermann, who crops quotes almost every day of the week. I'm curious as to why you give him a pass, when he pretends to be a 'journalist', but you attack Hannity for being partisan--which is his job, he's a commentator!.
 
Also, since you didn't understand what Ashley said, let me put it to you another way. Where are you writing from?
March 20, 2009, 5:50:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Haggis | 03.20.09 - 5:45 pm | # 
 
Haggis - since you have repeatedly been caught using multiple identities and having similar conversations with yourself in order to bolster your own comments, do you really think it is that hard to connect the dots and see what you are doing now?
 
What to call you now...
 
Staggis (Stan/Haggis)
Staggles (Stan/Haggis/Nibbles)
Haggles (Haggis/Nibbles)
Chaggles (Chippy/Haggis/Nibbles)
Hagglestan?
Haggisstan?
Chibbles?
March 20, 2009, 5:51:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Kibbles and Bits?
March 20, 2009, 5:52:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
are also omitting the facts that the other news networks did the same.
Ashley | 03.20.09 - 5:48 pm |
 
Ashley...I think you need to check what your posting before hitting the publish button. Are you really saying because others did it...that makes it OK for Fox to do so? I'd like to see proof the others used edited video to show what coach K said.
March 20, 2009, 5:55:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Ashley and Blackfon, if they didn't use sexual terms and insults for especially women, nor speculate and describe especially men in homophobic terms with great emphasis on sucking and didn't continually brag about their intelligence compared to the retarded ignorant stupid rednecks you could read their entire day's worth of output in about two minutes flat.
 
And Pegleg has complained more then once here and at her den that she has been subjected to such abuse here. Whatever she is smoking or snorting must be really strong.
March 20, 2009, 5:57:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
I'm curious as to why you give him a pass, when he pretends to be a 'journalist', but you attack Hannity for being partisan--which is his job, he's a commentator!.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.20.09 - 5:55 pm | # 
 
I know why he gives Olby a pass on this. Kibbles and Bits  will NEVER say anything negative about Olbermann. If Olby were to launch a nuclear level attack of fat insults against a certain daughter of a respected politician, Kibbles wouldn't say a peep.
March 20, 2009, 5:59:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Nibbles
Ashley | 03.20.09 - 5:56 pm |
 
Your simple using diversionary tacktics to get away from commenting on more Fox wrong doings. 
 
Where are you writing from?
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.20.09 - 5:55 pm | # 
 
Sorry I don't give out that sort of info online....I can assure you I'm not from the UK.
March 20, 2009, 6:00:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Are you really saying because others did it...that makes it OK for Fox to do so? 
Haggis | 03.20.09 - 6:00 pm | # 
 
Kibbles - I am not saying that at all.
March 20, 2009, 6:01:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
"Your simple using diversionary tacktics to get away from commenting on more Fox wrong doings. "
 
Three more clues.
 
Yes - Kibbles. No doubt.
March 20, 2009, 6:03:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
That article by Ernie Mannix about Olbermann was "spot on". 
 
Fox talks about the News while MSNBC talks about Fox.
March 20, 2009, 6:08:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 03.20.09 - 6:06 pm |
 
Ashley I think you've be listening far to much to the Johnny Dollar radio show...and your beginning to think your a detective. I used Chippy once and admitted to it....do you really think I'd try the same thing again?
March 20, 2009, 6:10:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Johnny, Inside Olbermann's Head is a masterpiece. It is laugh out loud funny.
March 20, 2009, 6:15:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Nibbles
I've had enough of these unfounded actuations. I'm off to watch the Cubs game. Thanks for the warm welcome
March 20, 2009, 6:18:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I believe the poster of many names claimed the audio and quote of olbermann posted below is "heavily edited and out of context." Ironic?
 
http://olbermannwatch.com/audios/olbypocrisy1.mp3
March 20, 2009, 6:19:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
do you really think I'd try the same thing again?
Haggis | 03.20.09 - 6:15 pm | # 
 
You've already proven that.
March 20, 2009, 6:20:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Grammie | 03.20.09 - 6:02 pm | # 
 
There are maybe 3 people at NH with some intelligence. They just don't use it in an intelligent way.
 
All that education and only 2 ounces of common sense.
March 20, 2009, 6:29:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 03.20.09 - 6:25 pm |
 
I suppose you've come up with that deduction after nipping off and doing some deep undercover spying or what ever you do.
March 20, 2009, 6:29:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
I used Chippy once and admitted to it....do you really think I'd try the same thing again?
Haggis | 03.20.09 - 6:15 pm | # 
 
Not so fast Kibbles, that is so not correct. You used Chippy repeatedly for quite a few number of days. You also used Alabama Dem repeatedly for a number of days. You used Stan for a couple of days. You used spider only once.
 
Do I really think you'd try the same thing again? Yes.
 
By the way, J$ said your IP address was from Il. Why not simply answer his question and say you are from Il.
March 20, 2009, 6:33:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
I've had enough of these unfounded actuations. 
Nibbles | 03.20.09 - 6:23 pm | # 
 
Yet another clue!
March 20, 2009, 6:35:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply


2008
Blackflon | 03.20.09 - 5:44 pm |
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It's quite interesting how the sheep found at the Mutts place always claim to be so "enlightened" and "morally superior" to those who refuse to subscribe to their jaded narrow point of view. 
 
Funny how none of their commentary ever backs up their position. They truly seem to be at their "best" when acting in a puerile fashion replete with vile and disgusting language pulled from the gutter.
 
How Utterly Sad For Them eh?
March 20, 2009, 7:02:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Interesting syntax for someone whose IP (today) is from IL. 
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.20.09 - 5:16 pm | # 
 
I've had enough of these unfounded actuations. I'm off to watch the Cubs game. Thanks for the warm welcome
Nibbles | 03.20.09 - 6:23 pm | # 
 
Bill even managed to keep a straight face while talking about ambushing folk.
Nibbles | 03.19.09 - 5:54 pm | # 
 
Kibbles - WGN telecasts the cubs games, but they've been showing AFV for a while now, there was a game scheduled to start about 3 or 4 hours ago. But if you do somehow get to see that game, I hope that you and the other "Folk" as you say in Chicago, enjoy the game and perhaps enjoy a nice and tasty bacon butty dog!
March 20, 2009, 7:12:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


shizzle
Yet another clue!
 
Godd lord who cares.
March 20, 2009, 7:22:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
And Pegleg has complained more then once here and at her den that she has been subjected to such abuse here. Whatever she is smoking or snorting must be really strong.
Grammie | 03.20.09 - 6:02 pm | # 
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Hey Granny, I do neither. You, on the other hand, have admitted to hitting the Absolut quite early in the day!
Jes' sayin...!
 
"if they didn't use sexual terms and insults for especially women"
 
Ahem, you were the one talking about polishing Johnny's coconuts! (Oh dear... now you're going to tell me its just my dirty mind!) :lol:
March 20, 2009, 7:29:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply


shizzle
Bill even managed to keep a straight face while talking about ambushing folk.
Nibbles | 03.19.09 - 5:54 pm | # 
 
That's because Bill doesn't see it. This is a man devoid of self awareness.
March 20, 2009, 7:37:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Or it could be that he makes a distinction between ambushing children of politicians, or their boyfriends, and powerful people in business or government. Just a wee bit of difference there.
March 20, 2009, 7:46:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Poor Pegleg. Her outrage at O'Reilly is a fraud. Her only interest is to smear O'Reilly. It's what the News Mutts do.
 
No one with 2 ounces of common sense would construe his comments as "blaming the victim".
 
And before she and her other lady friends decide to rake someone over the coals they should take a look at their own mysoginist posters on their own site.
Blackflon | 03.20.09 - 4:41 pm | #
 
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None of their "mysoginist posters" are putting themselves forward as keynote speakers fot the local chapter of NOW, are they!?
 
And I am not the "official" anything. I am a person with siblings who were sexually abused by trusted adults outside of the family, who is thoroughly disgusted wth O'Reilly's remarks about Shawn Hornbeck.
 
If he has an ounce of decency he NEVER would have called Jennifer a "moronic girl," would he? And there is a HUGE difference between discussing the issue of drink and clothing and how they may or may not impact on a potential situation where a rapist chooses a victim - as I did with groups of women when I taught attack awareness and self defense - and holding up a rape victim to ridicule and scorn as O'Reilly did.
 
But apparently those differences are WAYYYY too subtle for the regulars on this site, who put Fox loyalty before anything else.
 
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Now, GRAMMIE WHO IS SHOUTING AT ME IN CAPS AND BOLDFACE- OR DID YOU LOSE YOUR GLASSES, SO YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU ARE TYPING ?????
 
(1) I never called Ceceila by the name you are referring to. I suggest you or she take it up with the person who has. 
 
(2) I have never called Republican women any of those names either. I do NOT use the C-word. 
 
Neither of those have anything to do with me so you have no argument.
However, the name that Fox Fan calls me is pretty damn disgusting but I don't see YOU telling him not to use it. Or if you did perhaps you would kindly supply me with a link. Back to you: PUOSU
March 20, 2009, 7:47:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
So what I done, Peggy, that you can use to justify your calling me a whore-- or more specifically Johnny's "comfort girl"?
March 20, 2009, 7:50:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Peggy, you know full well the only thing that O'Reilly is guilty is of is saying on television what others said in their living rooms.
 
It is tragically and frustrating moronic that a young woman got intoxicated and made bad decisions that led to her being raped. That she may have been drunk enough that she was not equipped to act in a way that might have saved her life.
 
I'm sorry, but there were thousands of fathers and mothers who heard that story and wailed "Oh, how stupid! How could sje have been so dumb!". That is NOT tantamount to saying that she "deserved it" or "asked for it".
 
My complaint is not that you find the statement misguided, insensitive, etc. It's that you go beyond that and say that it disqualifies O'Reilly from doing anything to help such victims.
 
That IS zealotry.
March 20, 2009, 8:03:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Evidently, Peggy feels that sexism is only bad when you're to speak at a fundraiser for rape victims.
 
Otherwise, calling women sexist epithets is a personal preference... She has no trouble going to Animal House and commenting to posters who refer to other female blog posters as wearing kneepads and as the c-word, etc.
March 20, 2009, 8:17:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
I see St Pegleg picks and chooses what she wants to rant about while ignoring many valid points.
 
Since you seem to miss so much of what is addressed to you perhaps I can try again to get your attention.
 
Re this statement:
 
"Added 3/18: 
 
Note to vstol and cecelia,and anyone else who came running here for a look following vstol's link: 
 
Given the extremely nasty things that get said about NH on a regular basis over there, and some of the disgusting names I have been called - which Dollar let through - if I get pissed off with it once in a while, well, tough."
 
As I said earlier, I defy you to match anything said to or about you that either you have said or CONDONED by others at NH. Either that or:
 
PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
March 20, 2009, 8:25:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Ashley, here is what I have to say about the BOR/Alexa thing:
 
I hope the Alexa foundation raised plenty of money. 
 
I also wish they had asked someone more suitable to speak. 
 
There are plenty of other , far more suitable and every bit as famous(if not more) people they could have asked rather than someone who accused a boy who was repeatedly raped for four years of sticking around because there may have been a nice trade-off like not having to go to school. Or someone who didn't call a raped murder victim a moron over the airwaves, or insinuate she brought that upon herself because of what she was wearing. How nice of him to show such compassion to her family and friends and to other rape victims who have been told they contributed to their own misfortune. It is entirely possible that she could have been a nun in a habit and still have been raped.
 
How the speaking engagement came about I do not know. I will tell you that one board member whom a friend of mine contacted said s/he (so as to give nothing away that would identify the person, who spoke confidentially) had no idea that BOR had ever made those remarks. The rest of what this person had to say might identify him/her so all I can say is that its likely that if the board had known about O'Reilly's remarks, he probably would not have gotten the gig. 
 
And I think Ellen Augello's post on this site was disgraceful and on top of that, could have been a PR disaster for the foundation if someone had really wanted to push that. I wonder if she was speaking on behalf of the foundation when she condemned those who were complaining about O'Reilly as "zealots"? Many of those people were rape survivors. How dare she insinuate that they were politcally motivated "zealots"? THAT's the kind of stupidity that could really have turned the fire on the Foundation rather than on O'Reilly. THAT is the kind of thing that could REALLY cost them money. 
 
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To address a seperate but related issue:
 
Someone upthread made a comment about me being the self- appointed women's representative at NH or something like that. How silly. I am a person who taught boys, girls, men and women to look after their own safety for over 25 years in a realistic and practical manner. In my courses catering specifically for girls and women I encountered rape and abuse victims on a regular basis, and as I have already said, that problem is one I am familiar with on a more personal level. I interviewed law enforcement officers, rape crisis counsellors, medical personnel and law professors in the course of my work and got an earful of what goes on. 
 
Among those who attended my classes I saw and heard firsthand what rape and serial abuse did to both men and women and how they blamed themselves for what happened regardless of the circumstances. I saw how it destroyed lives for years and years afterwards and how there can be a similarity to PTSD - where thoughtless, careless or cruel remarks like those by O'Reilly can bring it all back.
 
So I offer no apologies for being passionate about it. I have good reason to be.
March 20, 2009, 8:35:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
So what I done, Peggy, that you can use to justify your calling me a whore-- or more specifically Johnny's "comfort girl"?
Cecelia | 03.20.09 - 7:55 pm | # 
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I believe it was someone else who said those things. Those are not words I use. I would never call another woman a whore, slut or c**t ...theyare not words I use because of their sexist connotations (as in double standard since trhere is no equivalent for men - I am an "equal opportunity" offender!) ...And "comfort girl" ? I don't recall saying that. Please post the link and refresh my memory. I do know that another poster used that phrase so perhaps you are confusing him with me.
March 20, 2009, 8:47:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
"So I offer no apologies for being passionate about it. I have good reason to be. 
 
Pegleg Peggy | 03.20.09 - 8:40 pm | # "
 
Your passion, no matter what the root, does not entitle or excuse the behavior that you have engaged in. B/c you have this passion you expect everyone, and especially Cecelia and I, to smile tolerantly when you use terms such as "comfort girls" to refer to us and cavort with the three or four really vile so called men who are using Xrated comments about us all.
 
Sorry St Pegleg, if you had just escaped from a sultan's harem you don't have the right to dump on others.
March 20, 2009, 9:00:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Grammie, you have made zero case that I have condoned those things. I am not the moderator nor am I going to fight your battles for you. And the fact that they were said by other people, about other people, have nothing to do with me. I will address the things I have said. Period.
 
In any case, I believe that what FoxFan has called me here more than once is not ony as bad, it is worse. But I'm not going to have a hissy fit about it (and I am also not going to repeat it). I am a big girl and I can take it - I've dealt with far worse in mylife than being called names by some white letters on a black background. Besides, if I don't like it I can just walk away from the computer. 
 
Which is maybe what you should do. I see your eyes are still getting tired by the end of your posts to me. You really ought to do something about those glasses.
 
Now, its almost 1 AM here, so I'm outta here. Byeeeeeee!
March 20, 2009, 9:03:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


shizzle
"Or it could be that he makes a distinction between ambushing children of politicians, or their boyfriends, and powerful people in business or government. Just a wee bit of difference there."
 
It's logically possible. But having watched a fair amount of O'Reilly and seeing him usually display a remarkable lack of self-awareness, I doubt it.
March 20, 2009, 9:29:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Damail
"...the continuing history of hate at Newshounds..."
 
RE-FIXED.
 
You got that, Pegleg? You want a shining example of their most recent pile of putrid? 
 
One of their commenters called Michelle Malkin "the love child of an opium whore from Manila and a syphilistic ape". Last we checked, that comment is still on the boards. (Don't worry, we saved it over here if the Newswoofs' mods get any ideas.)
 
It's a shame that Malkin quit The O'Reilly Factor. (Yes, that's right, she quit. She did not get fired, which is another Olbermann lie, by the way.)
March 20, 2009, 10:22:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Now, its almost 1 AM here, so I'm outta here. Byeeeeeee!
Pegleg Peggy | 03.20.09 - 9:08 pm | #
 
So you're in the UK (aka Exile Island) with Haggis? You shouldn't be complaining about US politics, watch out for that upcoming Sharia law.
March 20, 2009, 10:27:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Damail | 03.20.09 - 10:27 pm | #
 
She absolutely did quit O'Reilly, it was over the Geraldo dustup. I wish she would go back on too, Michelle was one of my favorite interviewees.
March 20, 2009, 10:42:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
FF, I must know what horrible thing you said/called St Pegleg.
 
As she said in that same comment she is too modest and shy a maiden to repeat it, you big brute you! 8)
March 20, 2009, 11:07:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Speshul Komment
 
I'll tell you what Dollar Dollies Ashley and Cecelia remind me of (with Grammie as runner-up). Over here the Catholic priests often have female housekeepers who look after them (that's the story anyway, though now and again it turns out that they are actually shacking up, surprise surprise). So you have these priests with these usually late-middle-aged or elderly old harpies (god forgive me but that's what they're like) who have made the priest their "raison d'etre" and act as the first line of defense when someone is trying to get to see him for some reason. It's like, "What do you want with MY MAN?" They're like guard dogs. When you keep the appointment, the "housekeeper" is usually in the room glaring and sending out posessive bad vibes towards the guest, especially if said guest is female. That's what Ashley and Cecelia remind me of. And SucksOlby is like the housekeeper's obnoxious little dog that keeps trying to hump your leg, then takes a dump in the corner and comes back wagging its tail going, "Duuuuuuuhhh, look what I did! Look at me! Look at me!" and then sits down and drags his arse across the carpet. 
 
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Added 3/18: 
 
Note to vstol and cecelia,and anyone else who came running here for a look following vstol's link: 
 
Given the extremely nasty things that get said about NH on a regular basis over there, and some of the disgusting names I have been called - which Dollar let through - if I get pissed off with it once in a while, well, tough. But how you can take comments like mine here and suggest that they somehow invalidate what I have to say about Bilge speaking to the IHTAF defies logic. If we make jokes about the relationship between Mark Koldys and his posters that in no way implies that anyone is "asking for it" if Marky should suddenly decide to sexually assault you (via the tubes; that'd be some trick). 
 
If you want to read a post of mine on the O/T that is far more relevant, go here: 
 
http://forum.newshounds.us/viewtopic.php?t=26518&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=300 
 
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Did you see Cecelia's avatar for today? It looks like a gangrenous penis head. Whose is it, I "wonder"? 
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"Strong male types"??? Like Ashley???????? Oh, maybe she means Grammie. 
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March 20, 2009, 11:20:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
I called her [deleted] Piggy. I admit it. I'm not sorry. [I am. --J$]
 
J$ probably doesn't know what it means and you probably have to look it up as well Grammie. 
 
Pegleg has little to say about name-calling based on her NHs J$ comment history.

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March 20, 2009, 11:25:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Fox Fan | Homepage | 03.20.09 - 11:30 pm | #
 
Never assume what people know and don't know. That comes right after "never ask a question you don't already know the answer to."
March 20, 2009, 11:54:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
You're right. I had to look it up.
 
Pegleg has a valid gripe FF. I am sure if Johnny knew its meaning he would not have let it stand. 
 
I assumed you were just making a play with a silly sound alike sound not using an actual word.
 
FF, you were wrong and should apologize to not only Pegleg but we other ladies also at a minimum.
March 21, 2009, 12:07:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
The talented teeter-totter tandem balancing act, Kibbles & Brits, seemingly joined at the hip, routinely leave their audience (if only they would) amazed and astounded with their gyrating, gravity defying, unbelievable mesmerizing ability to swing back and forth on a teeter board precariously balanced on a rolling cylinder, while simultainiously juggling a dozen raw eggs and keeping eight plates furiously spinning on rods.
 
Faltering only when one of the tandem do not catch an egg during the hand off or the other fail to maintain sufficient spin to keep the prop plate in the air.
March 21, 2009, 12:09:59 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Guest
Peggy, 
 
You did call me a "comfort girl" and you compared me to a type of priest's housekeeper, who you explicitly characterized (in the context of others making sexual implications about me) as sleeping with the priest and who consequently becomes proprietary towards the priest.
March 21, 2009, 12:11:18 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
""I was over there this evening. It was "Get Peggy" time for the Dollies. For me it was Tai Chi time 
 
They're supposed to come back with links to where I supposedly called some of them c*nts, whores and comfort girls. Maybe one of you will alert me if they come up with one. I've had enough of that place to last me for a long time.
 
Then there is Grammie. Man, s/he hates my guts!! (wasn't there speculation that Grammie is actually the sockpuppet of one of the guys?)According to the Myopic One (you'd have to see the thread)I should be the languge police over here and kick your butts every time you guys use sexist terms like c*nt, whore, slut etc. The fact that I don't rise up and whup you all upside the head for that means to Grammie that I condone it. For the record: I don't condone it. I have taken people to task for that stuff on the mains, but as far as I'm concerned the Dollar Dollies can fight their own battles. I am certainly not going to fight them for THEM!!!!
 
Notably, Grammie didn't say boo when FoxFan called me something really gross the other day. I guess her moral outrage only runs in one direction!
 
G'nite!
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Posted by: pegleg peggy on Fri 3.20"
 
Vstol, St Pegleg has made it quite clear that while she retains her right to bitch, moan and use sexual inuendos about us we just have to suck it up. Of course she now asks for proof (I supposedly called some of them c*nts, whores and comfort girls) for an accusation that was never made.
 
She is also quite amused that I expect her to fight my battles. Where she got that from I'll never know. I simply applied the logical point that silence in the face of something you supposedly abhor is approval and acquiesence.
 
She herself is free and loose with sexual innuendos especially for someone who claims special treatment b/c of her heightened sensibilities. Hogwash.
March 21, 2009, 12:24:28 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Guest
Grammie, you have made zero case that I have condoned those things. I am not the moderator nor am I going to fight your battles for you. And the fact that they were said by other people, about other people, have nothing to do with me. I will address the things I have said. Period.
 
Pegleg Peggy | 03.20.09 - 9:08 pm | # 
 
So this is it, huh? That's your level of concern?
 
If Jennifer's rapist had been in that bar with her, he would have been telling himself precisely the sort of things that your friends say about Grammie and me on that NH thread.
 
He would have been saying-- "That girl is laughing and joking and admiring that jerk. Where's her kneepads? She's a comfort girl. She's a whore."
 
You cannot have worked in the field without being familiar with the mindset.
 
You've repeatedly made an appeal to your authority because of victimized family members and have pled a heightened sensitivity to these matters due to that authority.
 
Yet, here you are absolving yourself from hopping into the Male Juvenile Delinguent's Locker Room and hobnobbing with guys calling women filthy names and voicing precisely the same sorts of things that Jennifer's rapist was thinking about her.
 
They aren't rapists, but those filthy insults echo the mentality.
 
In your case it seems that the appeal to authority and the special case plea truly are the classical logical fallacies.
 
It doesn't matter how many victimized family members you have or how much work you've done with abused people. As it stands, the only heightened sensitivity you have to this sort of vile mindset and the only principles you care to stand on is when it involves someone on FNC.
March 21, 2009, 12:32:17 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
OK, so am I now the only person on this thread who doesn't know what FF's nickname for Pegleg "reallty" means?!?
March 21, 2009, 12:49:08 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I don't know either, Johnny and my apparently this computer doesn't know my name.
 
The anonymous posts are from me.
March 21, 2009, 12:57:59 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Lil' Barry Bailout
My bad for confusing donating one's time and energy to help a rape victim's charity as a good, compassionate and honorable act.
 
cee | 03.20.09 - 12:11 pm 
=
 
On the flip side of that coin, it's OK to insult disabled children as long as you're an oh-so-compassionate liberal.
 
Eh?
March 21, 2009, 12:59:21 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
No one here accused Peggy of calling anyone the c-word. Pegleg is wrong about that. I said she condoned it, anonymous (I think Grammie?) said what I would like to say in response to PPs latest, only she says it better at 12:37.
 
BTW J$, I don't know what it means either.
March 21, 2009, 1:02:00 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
"For the record: I don't condone it. I have taken people to task for that stuff on the mains, but as far as I'm concerned the Dollar Dollies can fight their own battles. I am certainly not going to fight them for THEM!!!!"
 
Duh.
 
Before Peggy's heightened sensitivity and years of experience... would kick in concerning Grammie and me, we'd have to share her politics or have called been called those names by a Republican.
March 21, 2009, 1:15:15 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Johnny, to make it as painless as possible here is a link:
 
http://www.answers.com/smegma
March 21, 2009, 1:22:08 AM EDT – Like – Reply


shizzle
OK, so am I now the only person on this thread who doesn't know what FF's nickname for Pegleg "reallty" means?!?
johnny dollar 
 
Nope. I have no idea either.
March 21, 2009, 1:32:12 AM EDT – Like – Reply


shizzle
Whoah. The urban dictionary cured my ignorance.
March 21, 2009, 1:37:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Grammie: Thanks. I think...
 
OK, that's all I need to know. Have done a little retroactive editing. Too gross for this site.
March 21, 2009, 1:39:18 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
FF, I second Grammie's admonishment.
 
Uncalled for. Unnecessary. Uncool.
March 21, 2009, 2:14:07 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
And no, paranoid turds from Crapper 2. I am not "Nibbles"
 
Posted by: AAP on Fri 3.20 10:12pm 
 
Well, that proves it! (sarcasm cranked). What's your retainer fee for defending someone such as haggis or nibbles?
March 21, 2009, 2:17:27 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Poor Pegleg. Wallowing in self pity she needs to lie in order to get attention from the poor misguided Mutts.
March 21, 2009, 8:50:12 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Well, it's being stated at NHers that Ashley and Grammie are called nasty names because they don't agree with NHers about BOR. 
 
AND then it's stated that Grammie and Ashley shouldn't complain about being called nasty names, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T DECENT ENOUGH TO AGREE WITH NHers ABOUT BOR.
 
Oh, and Mike C. doesn't agree with NHers about BOR and this justifies getting "personal" by stalking him and trying to humiliate and terrorize him.
 
And they argue that they aren't zealots...
March 21, 2009, 10:36:16 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
"some of the members of our church went and helped people of the community search for Shawn,"
 
By the virtual stalker, OoOoOoOoOoOo The Dreaaded Patriiiiiiick.
 
I think he misspoke. Surely he meant his coven?
March 21, 2009, 11:27:53 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
FF, you were wrong and should apologize to not only Pegleg but we other ladies also at a minimum.
Grammie | 03.21.09 - 12:12 am | #
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FF, I second Grammie's admonishment.
Uncalled for. Unnecessary. Uncool.
Cecelia | 03.21.09 - 2:19 am | #
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I apologize to johnny for obscure name calling on his site. Pegleg does not merit such respect as an apology. I can only offer Pegleg the same thing Ted Nugent offered to Hillary.
March 21, 2009, 12:47:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
By the virtual stalker, OoOoOoOoOoOo The Dreaaded Patriiiiiiick.
 
I think he misspoke. Surely he meant his coven?
Grammie | 03.21.09 - 11:32 am | # 
 
Yeah, it's interesting that the person he chooses to stalk is the least politically ideological person on this board, let alone as ideological as the folks on NH.
 
Mike C. is a pure FNC fan. That's his heart over all.
 
He's brilliant, and he's also easily troubled by shifts in routine because of his Asperger's. This makes him vulnerable.
 
Forget Patrick's crap about O'Reilly saying this or that. That Mikes is detail-minded, methodical and upset by disorder, is what makes him of interest to an inveterate classical bully like Patrick. 
 
You won't see a Patrick stalking after a Vstol or a Fox Fan.
 
No, he's going after the guy who is least likely to relish conflict.
 
(Sorry to talk about you like you're not here, Mike, but I want openly point out what a thug this guy is.)
March 21, 2009, 4:30:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
I notice also he doesn't bother with us much except when he's with his pals at the kennel. There, he swaggers like he is the big man in town and has endless conversations with himself about how bad Johnny is and who he is going to get
.
I bet if someone said BOO in his ear he'd be looking for the accomodations.What a despicable little worm of a man.
March 21, 2009, 5:26:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Ladies, the dreadful one replied to your comments on the NH J$ OT thread.
 
How does johnny's keyboard taste Patrick? :lol:
March 21, 2009, 8:39:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Fox Fan | Homepage | 03.21.09 - 8:44 pm | # 
 
In his 8:03 PM post, the l'il feller actually acknowledges that he's tasted the keyboard!!!!! Also in that same post, he says that he's got a rear end like mine. If he does, good for him. It will certainly help him with the ladies.
March 21, 2009, 10:21:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Cecelia | 03.21.09 - 4:35 pm | # 
 
Bravo Cecelia.
 
Patrick is a little bully who believes he's terrorizing MikeC, but if they ever came face to face, Patrick would run away in a flash.
 
MikeC is a good guy, very bright, very talented. He NEVER EVER EVER slurs anyone. J$ aside, no one here knows more or has better insight into cable news, than MikeC.
 
MikeC - Well spoken, polite, bright, never vulgar.
 
Patrick? not, not, not, always rather than never.
 
MikeC - Honest about his identity. Never changes his handle.
 
Patrick? No, Always changes. How many handles has he had in the last couple of months??? Too many to count, and he's on his second or third "Michael". I suspect that's a subconcious effort to try to be more like MikeC.
 
MikeC - Respectful to women
 
Patrick? Not.
 
MikeC - never makes homophobic slurs.
 
Patrick? Daily.
 
MikeC - never attempts to deceive.
 
Patrick? Often
 
MikeC - excellent grammar, spelling, sentence construction.
 
Patrick? - BWAAHHAAAHAAAAHAAA
 
MikeC - the kind of person you want for a neighbor.
 
Patrick? Not an issue unless you live in a motel that accepts government vouchers.
March 21, 2009, 10:37:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
I saw that 8:03 post Ashley. He edited it once already so it doesn't say that I took the keyboard out of his ass anymore, but he still says that he has an Ashley ass.
 
Was it uncomfortable when I first shoved the keyboard in, Patrick? Sorry I forgot the vaseline... Thanks for the entertainment, Michael. XOXOXO
March 21, 2009, 11:11:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Fox Fan | Homepage | 03.21.09 - 11:16 pm | # 
 
All of Patricks vulgarities and hate spewing aside, the l'il feller has been just wrong on so many things of substance he's trying to defend. Many of his facts are wrong. In his defense, he's piggybacking on others comments, such as Peg, where there has been a lot of misinformation on their part. J$ doesn't need me to defend himself, but PLP's comments about her conversation with J$ over his vietnam service is just flat out wrong. J$ asked her specific questions and Peg was not able to justify her reasoning. Patrick just goes along for the ride because he doesn't know any better, and he's a moderator there?
March 21, 2009, 11:40:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Dittos about Mike.
 
My husband would have desribed him as "a helluva nice fellow". 
 
That meant that the guy was honest both personally and in business, was a good husband, father and son, could be depended on to do the right thing and was pleasant to be around. Except that Mike is a bit young to be a family man he fits the bill to to a tee.
March 21, 2009, 11:55:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Grammie | 03.22.09 - 12:00 am | # 
 
Agreed.
 
It's just disgusting that Patrick absolutely stalks MikeC. MikeC posts on TV Newser, the l'il feller has to go there and spew hate responding to Mike. Same for a number of other website where Mike enjoys engaging in good dialog. Patrick also goes to Mikes personal blog to spew the typical Patrick filth.
 
Even Patrick won't deny that he is a bully. Telling is the l'il feller's recent comment "I am not bullying Chimeri for the reason that he has Aspergers, a high functioning Autism".
 
His reason for bullying Mike? Perhaps one day a psychiatrist will be able to determine that when Patrick eventually gets fitted for his straightjacket
March 22, 2009, 12:31:36 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Anisha left this one right under half a page of homoerotic fantasy comments from Patrick:
 
"Well peggy, I'll send you some farm animals......." 
 
They sure are a diverse and experimental group over there! :lol:
March 22, 2009, 11:16:04 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Pegleg is boasting about the DogPound while feebly attempting to slime J$P. In her recent post, she exclaims that the hounds have very active! mains and all J$P has is one forum where we only talk about them. 
 
Let's roll the tape...From the NH visitor register (the register that tracks their "very active" site:
 
There are 4 Registered users and 2 Hidden users online Username Last Updated Forum Location 
Liailkhiz Sun 3.22 1:16pm Forum index 
Michael Weston Sun 3.22 1:19pm Viewing profile 
pegleg peggy Sun 3.22 1:15pm Off-Topic Discussions 
Waldorf Sun 3.22 1:15pm Off-Topic Discussions 
 
Wow, and half of their very active forum is dealing with us!
March 22, 2009, 2:25:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply