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Tuesday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [7:55 pm]:

In-house Matthews resentment?

Monday's numbers. Weekend numbers. The DVR factor.

Juan Williams: keynoter.

TCG: Olbermann's "new low"?
Audio: Lanny lances Keith.

Ware catches Zzzs.

Phil Keating celebrates.

Housley: Penguins vs Tibet.

CBS outsourcing news? "No plans." Reax: Jarvis, Time.

Video: Hillary's trifecta.

Outrage du jour.

Deggans's O'Reilly response.

Malkin at UW: controversy.

Hotline quotes.

More on Megan.

CNN "wishful thinking"? Pix: CNN Center (via ICN). Musical producers.

Tucker's unaired game.

The Kasich option.

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




Fox Fan
I thought Scott was smugly bragging that he already had FNC in HD. Guess he was wrong yet again!
April 8, 2008, 7:12:34 AM EDT – Like – Reply


On The Mark
The CBS/CNN sharing arrangement is an interesting concept. Cable news, for all of its bluster, still lacks the hard viewer numbers that broadcast news organizations enjoy, a point often overlooked by news junkies. CNN could significantly enhance its presence by the correct arrangement.  
 
At the same time, CBS is certainly interested in getting a monkey off its back. Contracting news gathering could make economic sense, and it would tend to insulate CBS from those news "misses" which have plagued it in recent years.
 
Unless and until an agreement is negotiated and in place, I am sure we will have repeated denials. But, an arrangement of the sort discussed makes tremendous sense.
 
Of course, CBS is still burdened with Couric, and no agreement with CNN is going to solve that problem.
April 8, 2008, 7:41:38 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
A F&F viewer E-Mailed the trio that he had a good idea for a name for the new entity, CNN-BS.
 
Very good writeup at OW, Johnny. Any word on how things are going there?
April 8, 2008, 10:02:29 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I know they're working on the commenting problem but haven't heard a progress report. Keep your cyber fingers crossed. And thanks for the kind words.
April 8, 2008, 10:05:02 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike Chimeri
So, what Eric Deggans basically said was, "Yeah, I'm a race baiter, but he's worse." "Coded race language"? Give me a break.
April 8, 2008, 12:59:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Johnny, is this true?
 
"Note the bold, above. Olbermann has sent his goons--oops, I mean, MSNBC producers--out to O'Reilly's house in the past, and now, once again, he is inserting himself into O'Reilly's homelife."
April 8, 2008, 3:04:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I'm not 100% on that. I DO recall him having someone on his show who went out to O'Reilly's house for some reason or other. And I have a vague, misty water-colored memory of something else on Countdown about O'Reilly's house. But I can't dredge up the details. You might try asking over at TCG. I'd be interested myself in knowing if they had something specific in mind.
April 8, 2008, 3:23:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike Chimeri
I thought that was Kos people that did that.
Either way, that was an excellent piece at The Cable Game.
I had to review my tape of Thursday night's "Weekdays with Bernie and Jane" segment to hear the distorted quotes *in* context. Via last night's transcript, Keith quoted BOR saying that "MSNBC is the biggest financial disaster in the history of broadcasting and it's the only way they can get meager eyeballs. And meager is the word, OK?" The quote was accurate until "it's" was added. Here's what BOR really said: "And the only way they can get meager eyeballs--and meager is the word, okay?--is to take out a Barack Obama partisanship membership and try to beg Barack Obama people to watch them. That's the only reason it's going on. It's cynical, it's dishonest, and you [Jane Hall] should be condemning it for the sake of academics." That was Jane's cue to respond. BOR was asking a follow-up question after Jane said that she made a distinction between NBC News and MSNBC that BOR does not. Funny how Keith left all that out. To quote Glenn Beck in his Real Story segment on March 10 on he himself being taken out of context by Keith, "it's much easier to just read the transcript [switches to helium-like voice] using a funny voice." Although, I would replace "funny voice" with "obnoxious mock voice."
Originally, I was going to transcribe more, but I'm wasting my afternoon trying to do that.
April 8, 2008, 3:39:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Excellent points, Mike. Olbermann regularly slices, dices, and doctors quotes to make them read the way he wants.
April 8, 2008, 3:45:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


On The Mark
I agree with your analysis of the quotes and misquotes, Mike, and I find nothing decent or honorable about Olbermann. On the contrary, I find him indecent and dishonorable. Beyond that, I would like to know your view of how O'Reilly treated Ms. Hall. I found O'Reilly arrogant, condescending and abusive. That doesn't particularly trouble me, as I generally find him that way. I am more troubled by my reaction to Ms. Hall. I have always liked her and respected her work. The fact that she would take such abuse, even if she is getting paid to do so, makes me disrespect her.
April 8, 2008, 4:00:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
OTM, when you bade us farewell last week you left with several questions unanswered by you. In case you don't remember them they are:
 
" Well which is it? Did people "leave" OlbyWatch because they didn't like the discussion? Or were they banished in a Stalinist purge?  
 
Do you "despise" Olbermann as much as you do O'Reilly and Hannity, as you said here just recently? Or is your opinion of Olbermann expressed by what you post at the Olby fan site?.........
 
johnny dollar | Homepage | 04.02.08 - 4:42 pm | # "
 
"I also see that you didn't answer Johnnies' question as to which comment you meant. I also would like to know if you are accusing me and others as being party to a Stalinistic purge or are you accusing me and others as being so poisonous as to drive people away in droves? Or are you so magnificently nuanced that I can't understand you at all?
Grammie | 04.02.08 - 5:21 pm | # "
 
I do think that you owe us a clarification.
April 8, 2008, 4:10:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike Chimeri
All I can do is be passive, ignore OTM, and not call him out. Anything like that will only get me in trouble. He thinks the way he does and I can't change that. Calling him a bully can merely be considered calling out on some message boards. But I've had to put up with bullies in the many stages of my life: in school and then in Long Island chat rooms on AOL. And it's a bully clique in those.
April 8, 2008, 4:32:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply


On The Mark
For clarification purposes, only, and with indulgence from you, Johnnie, I have read your post, 4:15, but I do not intend to respond.
 
More to the point of this site: Thanks for the Williams' link. I had missed it. I consider him one of the truly good guys, not just at FNC and NPR, but in the industry as a whole. I am glad to see he is so recognized by others.
April 8, 2008, 4:43:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Um, I made no post at 4:15. But thanks for your comments on Juan Williams.
April 8, 2008, 4:47:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
"I have read your post, 4:15, but I do not intend to respond."
 
Au contraire, OTM, your answer could not be more eloquent and informative if you had written a book.
 
Thanks!
April 8, 2008, 5:25:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Mike C, rest assured that I agree with you for the most part in the care and feeding of trolls, which is do neither b/c that is like mother's milk to them.
 
I tried to ask The cable Gamer what the story was behind this: "Note the bold, above. Olbermann has sent his goons--oops, I mean, MSNBC producers--out to O'Reilly's house in the past, and now, once again, he is inserting himself into O'Reilly's homelife. " but I don't think I registered right.
 
Do you, or anyone else, know the answer or is registered at The Cable Game?
 
Thanks,
 
Grammie
April 8, 2008, 5:53:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike Chimeri
I don't know as much about the blogosphere as I should, Grammie. I'm sorry.
April 8, 2008, 6:36:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply