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Wednesday Links and Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

Tuesday's numbers, Monday's numbers: FNC sweep, CNN 4th in primetime demo!

Coulter: Keith's college.

Olbermann = Rush Limbaugh?

Video: Maddow w/Leno.

Q&A: Joe & Mika, Alexis Glick.

Abridged anal-ysis.

Dobson's digs. Griffin's Luke.

Hotline after dark.

Julie's spill. Hip-hop Huck.

Vote: Cho v Lemon.


Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




Fox Fan
Huckabee has a great point that I've been wondering aloud for years. How can rappers claim to be part of the street culture and talk about selling drugs and shooting people when, in reality, they live in gated communities and probably wouldn't last 10 minutes at 3AM in Detroit?  
 
Don't get me wrong, I love rap music and my subs often boom with USDA and Three 6 Mafia. My question is how long can the (mostly black) youth culture blindly accept and try to reenact many of the aspects of the content of rap music before they realize that it's as fake as pro wrestling and that they've been drawn down a path of self-destruction while the ones who lead them there flourish?
March 4, 2009, 7:16:47 AM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Just came across this at NewsBusters:
 
Gibbs Does It Again -- Responds Directly to Media Criticism of Obama, This Time CNBC's Cramer
 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/03/03/gibbs-does-it-again-responds-directly-media-criticism-obama-time-cnbcs-cr
 
Could someone wake me up from this nightmare? Please. :o(
March 4, 2009, 8:32:36 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Fox Fan,  
 
Your summation of media folks and Twitter, the other day, was on the money, baby!
 
I can understand this stuff being more a drawl for folks if it was the Jonas Brothers tweeting and you were a sixteen year old fan.
 
As it stands with media personalities, is any adult THAT sort of news groupie? (I exclude the intellectual interest some here have in Julie Banderas' keen observations, of course...)
March 4, 2009, 9:30:20 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
It's good policy though, Grammie. It's the same thing the Clinton White House did with their cable news critics, except they also sent out their legion of Lanny Davises to all the talk shows.
 
It used to bother me that the Bush Administration just let all sorts of accusations and arguments against them hang in the air without any attempt to rebut.
 
Frankly, I think that was an arrogance that hurt them.
March 4, 2009, 9:35:34 AM EST – Like – Reply


Puck30
In response to the Patrick Edaburn Article:
"Because he was pretty much confrontational and disrespectful from the beginning...."
Disrespectful? Yes! Confrontational? Olbermann runs from any confrontation.
 
"same topic, Olbermann is stunningly intolerant of anyone who expresses an attitude that is off of his own mantra and seldom has guests from the other side, unless it is to attack them for whatever 'evil' policy or public figure they have chosen......"
 
Seldom has guests on? When was the last time Olbermann had ONE ON!
 
unless it is to attack them? Again, I point to my RUNS from confrontation.
 
And Last: "it was probably right around then that I started to hear his (Olbermann) broadcasts."
 
Hear his broadcasts sir? In adition to the 'seldom' guests he has on. Could you please tell me, what radio station Keith Olbermann 'broadcasts' on or from sir?
March 4, 2009, 1:58:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


cee
Rush.....commentator, bomb thrower, partisan, ideologue.
 
Olbermann......poses as a journalist, is actually not one, but is a bomb thrower, a partisan and an ideologue.
 
Rush......Multiple millions of listeners for 3 hours daily for over 20 years.
 
Olbermann.....at best, a little over 1 million viewers, 1 hour daily for the last 7 years.
 
Rush......accepts calls from those he disagrees, gives them time to give their opinion.
 
Olbermann......has group thinkers, fellow travelers and radical leftists appear to give analysis, even on topics they have no inside information about or expertise about.
 
Rush......Targeted by the current leftist ruling class as a way to advance their agenda.
 
Olbermann.....Ignored by the honorable and classy former administration (RESIGN!) that had more important things to do like protect our nation from terrorists and free millions of people from totalitarianism.
 
Rush and Olbermann....much more different than alike.....
 
Oh, wait.....perhaps I was too hasty.....both are obese, have poor histories with the female gender, are single and childless at an advanced age, and have huge egos.
March 4, 2009, 2:38:08 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Puck, you've got to quit doing that.
 
You sound so much like KO its starting to creep me out.  
March 4, 2009, 3:44:02 PM EST – Like – Reply


FOXFRIEND
Great site. I seldom comment but enjoy others who like to just hang it all out there and say what people are really thinking. We ARE a nation of lazy cowards who don't take the time to do something that really could make a difference. I am pleased to see there are some living, breathing people out there who can see what's really going on in this world. !!! You guys go for it.
March 4, 2009, 5:26:27 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
What a nice comment FOXFRIEND! Also thanks Cece for the oddly timed compliment on my thoughts on Twitter. I'm glad that you recognize our interests in Julie as purely intellectual.
 
Cho vs Lemon? I thought they were having a hot or not contest over at TVN all this time. Gross!
March 4, 2009, 6:39:26 PM EST – Like – Reply


Guest
"Because he was pretty much confrontational and disrespectful from the beginning...."
Disrespectful? Yes! Confrontational? Olbermann runs from any confrontation.-Puck30 | 03.04.09 - 2:03 pm | #  
 
Olby is confrontational, in his own special way: Sitting behind a desk shouting at an RCA TK-44.
March 4, 2009, 7:39:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Anonymous | 03.04.09 - 7:44 pm | #
 
Mike C, is that you? RCA TK-44?
March 4, 2009, 8:56:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
"If you've ever watched any three nights of his show, you know that Olbermann went to Cornell. But he always forgets to mention that he went to the school that offers classes in milking and bovine management."
 
Ann Coulter never disappoints! :lol:
March 4, 2009, 9:04:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Read the Coulter piece over on OW.
 
Poor Keith...  
March 4, 2009, 9:11:23 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
What, my link here isn't good enough?
March 4, 2009, 9:36:41 PM EST – Like – Reply


Tom
Hey Johnny, you see Fox's website lately? Fox is using the Fox Forum to promote the Republican Party.
 
Feel free to prove me wrong. Go ahead and sample the last 20-25 articles on Fox Forum. You will find that at least 18 of them were anti-Obama/pro-GOP. The others were neutral foreign policy wonks.
 
And that's not including the CPAC coverage posts.
March 4, 2009, 11:43:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Feel free to prove me wrong".
 
By your command.
 
Judith Miller: "An honorable withdrawal". Written by an Obama supporter, not a 'neutral foreign policy wonk'. And I didn't even have to go back 20-25 articles to spot it.
 
So there you are. I proved you wrong. I assume you will now admit your error.
March 5, 2009, 12:17:02 AM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Anyone who isn't following the assault on the Alexa Foundation that was instigated by KO you can find all the info at Olbermann Watch .
 
There is an orchestrated campaign to either force BOR to withdraw as their speaker at their fund raising lunch or coerce the Foundation to cancel him.
 
This Foundation is small but does great work and BOR's fund raising ability is very important to them. It is pretty vindictive and sick to use them as a vehicle to harm BOR.
 
I am sure that they would appreciate any support, moral or financial, especailly in light of this manufactured outrage.
March 5, 2009, 12:37:46 AM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
I forgot the contact info for the Alexa Foundation:
 
877-77-ALEXA (25392)
Fax: (716) 754-4676
 
info@ithappenedtoalexa.org
March 5, 2009, 12:45:34 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
It's very easy to go to the website and click the paypal button and make a contribution. A follow-up email giving your reasons would probably be good form.
March 5, 2009, 12:48:49 AM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
"I am sure that they would appreciate any support, monetary or financial, especailly in light of this manufactured outrage."
 
Could you correct that big faux pas by changing either monetary or financial to moral.
 
Thanks to you and Mike C. I wouldn't have known anything about it without you two. When you said that KO pissed you off more with thist then he had done in years I think you struck a cord with many of us.
 
Lead master and I your zombie will joyfully follow....or something like that.
March 5, 2009, 1:10:49 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
correction made, Grammie!
March 5, 2009, 1:12:14 AM EST – Like – Reply


Al
Some of you are quite funny. Great site and I do try to check it out daily.
 
My only real complaint with FNC is their incessant use of those "Fox News Alerts". After several hours has past since the story first broke, shut up with that already!
 
Complete fair and balanced reporting probably isn't possible, but they generally give both sides of the issues ample opportunities to get their points across.
March 5, 2009, 1:37:41 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
KO=loser!
March 5, 2009, 1:56:04 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Did anyone else here see the comment on OW, from a supposed News Clown, who wishes assault on Johnny and Grammie?
 
Though I've long believed that troll sorts (such as Patsy and Patrick) hide their vulgar misanthropic and antisocial inclinations under the cover of championing liberal largess, could this poster possibly be a sockpuppet?  
 
Surely not even a News Clown is this sociopathic?
March 5, 2009, 10:11:55 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
It's nobody new, Cece. Just an troll dressed in new clothes.
March 5, 2009, 10:24:11 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Johnny, my point is, could this troll be someone pretending to be from News Hounds?
 
A strawman sockpuppet?
March 5, 2009, 10:26:34 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Anything is possible, but I have reason to believe it is someone who hangs around the kennel but isn't a top dog.
March 5, 2009, 10:29:11 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
sheesh!
 
The company that NewsHounds attracts!...
 
Thank goodness for blogsite moderators and for dead bolts...
March 5, 2009, 10:33:12 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
By the way Cece, the need for self-aggrandizement always overwhelms everything else. So if the OlbyWatch troll thought he was being clever by using a new name at OW, he kind of undercut that just a bit when he ran back to the pound to brag about making the post!
 
And yes, it's our pal Patrick/Fixed/Todd/Weston/etc
March 5, 2009, 10:37:16 AM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Anonymous | 03.04.09 - 7:44 pm | #
 
Mine, mine, mine.
=-=
It may seem cruel to reveal the true college of someone who already wakes up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat worried that he's a fraud. But I believe that by pointing out that Olbermann actually is a fraud, I am liberating him. -Annie get your gun
 
OLF=Olberloon Liberation Front
March 5, 2009, 10:39:40 AM EST – Like – Reply


Ellen Augello
I am the Executive Director for the "It Happened to Alexa Foundation". I wanted to thank you for offering your support to our cause. We of course were thrilled to have someone of Mr. O’Reilly’s stature offer to speak at our event. The fact that he has agreed to do so at no cost, so that all of the proceeds of the event can be used for the victims we serve, is very generous. Instead of receiving support from groups who believe themselves to be progressive and enlightened, we have been besieged by KO followers who, for whatever misguided reason, feel as though it is their duty to tell everyone they come into contact with not to support us. Although we are a national foundation, we are staffed by one full-time employee and one part-time employee, both of whom are quite modestly paid. Almost all of the funding coming into the Foundation goes directly to the victims we serve. So I ask you, who are these zealots truly hurting?
March 5, 2009, 10:50:23 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
"And yes, it's our pal Patrick/Fixed/Todd/Weston/etc"
 
I should have guessed by his total lack of insight and his obviously low IQ.  
 
No conservative, trying to pull off a strawman sockpuppet, could possibly even fake that...
March 5, 2009, 10:54:19 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Ellen, thanks greatly. I appreciate your filling us in on the situation, and hope that the upcoming fundraiser will be a huge success.
 
I hope our readers will help this most worthy cause. I've added an entry at the top of the right column with all the relevant links, so contributing to the Alexa Foundation is as easy as a few mouse clicks.
March 5, 2009, 11:17:37 AM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Ellen,
 
Those that stand strong for what is right against an onslaught of coordinated smears and slurs from today's version of the Department for Agitation and Propaganda deserves the utmost respect and support of those who believe in truth, justice and liberty.
 
Bravo!
March 5, 2009, 11:57:48 AM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Dear Ellen,
 
I hope everything goes well for the foundation and for you personally. If you can let us know how things are going.
 
I can only imagine what a shock it must have been to go to bed one night with all right with the world and wake up to find yourself in the nest of vipers that KO and News Hounds are.
March 5, 2009, 1:53:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Ellen,  
 
Those who are attacking your group only want one thing. They want to smear O'Reilly and they don't care if you get in their way. They are a tragic group of people whose only interest is to destroy Fox News and it's people.
 
They are losers . Ignore them.
March 5, 2009, 1:54:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
cee | 03.04.09 - 2:43 pm | #  
 
If I may add...
 
Olby - has a degree from an agricultural college.
 
Rush - did not attend an agricultural degree.
 
Olby - makes x million dollars per year.
 
Rush - makes x cubed million dollars per year.
 
Olby - cannot drive a car.
 
Rush - can and does drive a car.
 
Olby - losing to Fox News
 
Rush - not losing to Fox News
 
Olby - wishing he could make news
 
Rush - making news
 
Olby - infatuated with Bill O'Reilly
 
Rush - not infatuated with Bill O'Reilly
March 5, 2009, 4:27:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


david ferris
Are you all aware that Ellen Augello and the IHTA foundation has invited Bill (blame the victim) O'reilly back for their fundraiser this March?
Perhaps a picketing is in order. Lets get this on the evening news!
Save the Date!
Bill O'Reilly from "The O'Reilly Factor" will be the Keynote Speaker, Friday, March 26, 2010 at the Mar-a-Lago Club, Palm Beach Florida.
September 29, 2009, 11:12:55 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Yes, we made note of it in July back when it wasn't two-month-old news.
September 29, 2009, 11:31:08 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
david ferris | 09.29.09 - 11:17 am | #  
 
A day late and a dollar short.
 
By the way, David, who really cares?
September 29, 2009, 1:10:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
By the way, David, who really cares?
 
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We'll see if Keith Olbermann "cares," and tries to use it again as a excuse to attack O'Reilly and FNC.
September 29, 2009, 4:08:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply