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Wednesday Links and Open Thread

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100 days coverage.

Huck's green room.

Profiles: Peter Barnes, Liz McDonald, Jennifer Griffin.

Obama knox Fox?

Q&A: Jim Angle.

Maddow tumbles, MSNBC sub-lets.

CNN shined? Undue flu to-do? Hotline after dark.

Keith knocks ticket prices, amplifies PR stunt. Is he serious?

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




Mike C.
Re: Keith's "PR stunt" via sympathizer David Bauder: I'd like to go back to my comment in last Friday's open thread:
"I guess Keith wants to bait another Fox personality into a feud with him. Dream on, Merkle. Not happening."
And I really hope it doesn't happen.
April 29, 2009, 1:19:35 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Mike C. | Homepage | 04.29.09 - 1:24 am | #  
 
You have to admit that Hannity gave him an opening.
April 29, 2009, 9:24:17 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Anyone know if Hannity has set a date for his charitable waterboarding yet? Maybe O'reilly could join him....after all it's only a sprinkling of water in his eyes.
 
Lets hope Hannity remembers to take the mascara and other makeup off before hand....Otherwise things might get a little embarrassing. I personally think he's all mouth...but I'll happily donate if it goes ahead.
April 29, 2009, 9:44:49 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
The fact that Hannity is being misquoted aside, I don't understand the logic behind calling him a "coward".
 
Isn't the fact that no one would want to go through a technique like this, kinda of the point? To say that fear of it alone proves that this is "torture" is illogical. I know that being put into a coffin with a large African cockroach won't kill me (unless I die from a heart attack), but the experience would be so astronomically miserable to me that I shun imagining it, feel sick and horrified at even typing it.
 
The logic behind Keith's opining on Kos that if Hannity agreed to the stunt, that he might ask that Hannity renounce his opinon that Obama is a socialist in order to stop the process of waterboarding, reveals a simplistic understanding of psychology too.
 
Renouncing an ideology is not analogous to revealing facts and data, and the scenario is not analogous to what prisoners undergo.
 
Anyone might pretend to recant-- their religion, for example, --under such a threat, and may even live a life as a practicing Muslim (or Christian--depending on the faith they were forced to embrace), if the threat of yet again experiencing the interrogation technique continued (as it would with prisoners, but would NOT with Hannity).
 
However, a prisoner knows that his information can be verified objectively and if found to be false he will indeed be threated with again undergoing the procedure. As I said, that's not the case with Hannity.
 
I agree with the writer who Johnny linked, who surmised that Olbermann isn't really interested in treating the subject of interrogation seriously. It's just one more little dart to use strike out against a professional enemy in order to humiliate one of them.  
 
I don't know if there is any area of life, political, personal, etc. that Olbermann would not be willing to use for his own benefit in this manner. He's willing to bend all things to his service; the sacred, the craven, the things which Churchill described as being so important that they must be surrounded by a bodyguard of lies, they're all only fodder for Keith's ego.
 
One can only hope, that with the ascendance of the Democratic Party, the more thoughtful members of that community will feel secure enough to feel less need for this petty demagogue that they've embraced. That they'll now turn the spotlight on this shallow... shallow hateful man, and tell him that he's served his purpose and to please now 'go away'.
April 29, 2009, 9:56:53 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Lets hope Hannity remembers to take the mascara and other makeup off before hand....Otherwise things might get a little embarrassing. I personally think he's all mouth...but I'll happily donate if it goes ahead.
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 9:49 am | #  
 
Is anyone surprised here that THIS is the sentiment of this man who is supposedly horrified that this act might happen to an enemy who is his enemy in every sense of the word?
 
An enemy who would enslave him in a religion he does not believe, shroud the faces of the women he loves, curtail all the things that bring play and delight to life, and an enemy who beheads his own enemies.
 
THIS ideological enemy Haggis wants protected despite that enemy himself and despite the safety of anyone else-- despite EVERY other consideration.  
 
Yet when it comes to a cable talk show host with a differing opinion, he has no such sense of propriety.
 
THAT'S the seriousness which they feel for this subject, folks, and THAT is the way that they regard you and me...
April 29, 2009, 10:06:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
I believe his ratings and interations with Democrat Party leaders (Howard Dean and David Axelrod had very tepid interactions with him) are examples of the very process Cecelia mentions at the end of her post.
April 29, 2009, 10:16:14 AM EDT – Like – Reply


ZoneDaiatlas
Sorry Haggis, but Queef Olberdouche has no frickin clue what he's talking about. Olberdouch was just quoted saying that Waterboarding doesn't work but when you have ABC Reporter Brian Ross reporting that it worked and the Bin Laden Unit at the CIA Michael Scheuer who supervised the harsh technique. I side with them because they have credibility over Queef Olberdouche anyday!
April 29, 2009, 10:24:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Headline from the Puppy Planet.
 
“Doom Room” Beck Complains About Obama Scaring Americans.
 
I wonder how this compares to the leftists insisting that Bush was scaring us for 8 years?
 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+scare+tactics&aq=0&oq=%22bush+scare
 
Hypocrites.
April 29, 2009, 11:22:52 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
How to torture Olbermann.
 
Force him to think logically.
April 29, 2009, 11:50:35 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Yeah, Blackflon, he did give Keith an opening, albeit through a blue blog source.
April 29, 2009, 12:00:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Just watched the WPitW from last night.
Brian Kilmeade says John McCain shouldn't be aloud to talk about torture because he was tortured....Kilmeade thinks McCain's views will simply be skewed because he has actually been tortured.  
The mind simply boggles at the mindset of a Fox presenter.
 
Johnny...how come my last post didn't make it past moderation....It was on topic.
April 29, 2009, 12:18:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
So tell me in the WPitW did Oralmann give both sides of the discussion, including what the co-host said (they were in a debate at the time)? Or did he just attack Brian?
 
You don't have to answer that. He ran the clip and just didn't tell anyone that the person taking the other side was also a Fox host. Or "presenter" as they weirdly say in bog-land. Or that it was a debate. Can't do that. Can't ever tell the whole truth. Even his source, Think Propaganda, told the truth about that. Though after I don't know how many years neither one seems to 'get' what Brian Kilmeade does. Or, more to the point, they 'get' it but count on their credulous sheep not to get it.
April 29, 2009, 12:23:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 04.29.09 - 12:28 pm |
 
Keith did air what the judge had to say....Thankfully he brought some sanity to the conversation and pointed out the absolute ridiculousness of the Kilmeade argument.
April 29, 2009, 12:30:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
does anybody know when alan colmes is going to get a show on foxnews? i think its only fair that since hannity has his own-alan also gets one on the channel-i do know about alan colmes radio show
April 29, 2009, 12:32:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
What's this bog-land you talk about?
I'll have you know we gave the world tarmacadam.
April 29, 2009, 12:34:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
how did foxnews cover when senator lieberman went from being a democrat to a independent? the reason i ask is bcause arlen spector-went from being a republican to a democrat-was fox news fair?
 
the reason i ask is because i honestly dont know-as for how hannity covers this story-his show is a matter of his opnion and not hard news
April 29, 2009, 12:43:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
I wrote my replied to your 12:28pm post before reading your edited post...So I feel it only fair my reply gets posted.  
I simply can't believe your actually trying to defend the Kilmeade remarks.
April 29, 2009, 12:48:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
does anybody know when alan colmes is going to get a show on foxnews?
chris | 04.29.09 - 12:37 pm |
 
LMAO...Never
FNC is the anti Obama network now....just like they were the pro-Bush network before. Alan's supposed show will never see the light of day.
April 29, 2009, 12:54:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
Mmm, Judge Napolitano is of "fixed news" as well and he was the one arguing with Brian of "fixed news."
 
So, again, let's review Keith Olbermann's integrity....Implying a representative from FNC made an absurd argument from a piece that actually had TWO represenatives from FNC.....one with the absurd argument and the other arguing AGAINST that position.
 
Oh, that's right....having two respectful people discussing an issue is foreign to Keith Olbermann....I forgot.
 
Nuance missed once again by this site's blind partisan.....Haggis.
April 29, 2009, 12:58:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
how did foxnews cover when senator lieberman went from being a democrat to a independent? the reason i ask is bcause arlen spector-went from being a republican to a democrat-was fox news fair?
 
the reason i ask is because i honestly dont know-as for how hannity covers this story-his show is a matter of his opnion and not hard news
chris | 04.29.09 - 12:48 pm | #  
 
It was covered straight. At the hounds, they referred to Lieberman as a traitor, a coward, and "a cheese-eater" (meaning Rat).
April 29, 2009, 1:10:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
so i watched KO wpitw-here what i learned:
 
brian: mccain should not talk about torture because he went thru it
 
the judge: yes he should-his views are telling
 
i'm sure when mccain was a hostage they did more to him than waterboard
 
mccain should be allowed to talk about torture because he went thru it- i disagree with brain
 
as for oreillly-rove diagreed with him
 
now isnt that being fair and balanced on a topic?
April 29, 2009, 1:10:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
FNC is the anti Obama network now....just like they were the pro-Bush network before. Alan's supposed show will never see the light of day.
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 12:59 pm | #  
 
"Supposed Show"? Is he trying to get one? If so, has it been refused?
 
Do you think that MSNBC was the anti-bush network and is now the pro-Obama network?
April 29, 2009, 1:13:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Though after I don't know how many years neither one seems to 'get' what Brian Kilmeade does. Or, more to the point, they 'get' it but count on their credulous sheep not to get it.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 04.29.09 - 12:28 pm | #  
 
I can think of one poster here at J$P who frequently complains about Kilmeade. One would think that by this time, after watching F&F for so long, that individual would "get" what BK does.
April 29, 2009, 1:13:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
What's this bog-land you talk about?
I'll have you know we gave the world tarmacadam.
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 12:39 pm | #  
 
And it also gave us you, so for some of us, Scotland is not very popular around there these days.  
April 29, 2009, 1:25:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
Keith knocks ticket prices
 
I'm sure there are alot more unhappy fans than KO
April 29, 2009, 1:27:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
Oh no!
 
Rachel Maddow may reprise her Butt-head to Ana Marie Cox's Beavis with today's current events......
 
"Those of you who are watching certain news channels on which I’m not very popular, and you see folks waving tea bags around," Obama, 4/29/09
 
###
MADDOW: "Ha, uh, uh, ha, uh uh, uh..He, he he said TEA BAGS..ha, uh, uh, uh, ha, uh."
 
COX: "Yeah, their waving TEA BAGS!...ha, uh, ha, uh, uh, uh"
April 29, 2009, 1:42:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
McCain can talk about anything he wishes, of course, it's a free country.
 
It IS arguable though that McCain's insight in impaired rather than enhanced by his own experience.
 
I would venture to say that people against waterboarding would be the first to impugn the motives and emotionality behind any family member of a 9/11 victim who was vehemently FOR waterboarding. Conversely, they'd certainly embrace them and use them as examples of 'clear thinking', if they were against it.
 
Both scenarios are tainted, in a sense.  
 
Juries are selected under just such premises. In a wrongful death of a child case, you'd be hard pressed to see someone who had lost a child, even from illness, on the jury.
 
I doubt anyone would have problems with the argument that a potential Pres. McCain might be less inclined to establish a needed relationship with a Chavez, because of his own experience at the hands of communists.
 
Again, the bit about McCain is an arguable point and one that should be heard and weighed by the public.
April 29, 2009, 1:43:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
does anybody know when alan colmes is going to get a show on foxnews? i think its only fair that since hannity has his own-alan also gets one on the channel-i do know about alan colmes radio show
chris | 04.29.09 - 12:37 pm | #  
 
Moat liberal talk shows fail on radio. Colmes is weak anyway so giving him a show would be like shooting themselves in the foot.
April 29, 2009, 1:52:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Do you think that MSNBC was the anti-bush network and is now the pro-Obama network?
Ashley | 04.29.09 - 1:18 pm |
 
I'd say Keith is pro-Obama....but the rest of MSNBC is mostly straight down the middle. The same can't be said of FNC....Apart from Shep...The rest of the FNC shows are anti Obama....What one isn't?
 
Ashley | 04.29.09 - 1:30 pm |
 
Come on Ashley admit it you really missed me over the last few months.
April 29, 2009, 1:58:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Newsbusters has an interesting story this morning about a petition and a letter to Keith "Czechoslovakia" Olbermann.
 
The letter asks KO why he would rail against Wall Street types getting raises and bonuses during these harsh times and while accepting bailout money, while Keithy himself lobbied for a 3 1/2 million dollar raise at the same time his employer was negotiating with the US with for billions of dollars in bailout money.
 
Yet one more reason why Keithy is a hypocrite. His raise is being funded by taxpayers.
 
Can you imagine that the idiots over at you know where would be saying if Fox even asked for a bailout?
April 29, 2009, 1:59:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
I'd rather that the 9 P ET hour go back to Hannity and Colmes.
April 29, 2009, 2:01:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
Hardball: Pro-Obama
 
The Ed Show: Pro-Obama
 
The Rachel Maddow Show: Pro-Obama
 
So, including COUNTDOWN, that's 5 straight hours of a news organization being the cheerleader of a President and his political party.
 
Sure..Beck is conservative, but then there are two hours of objective, fair and balanced programming....
 
Baier and Smith.
 
Then 2 hours of right of center and conservative commentary....
 
So which news channel is "more" biased?
 
And let's not forget that Olbermann claims not to be like Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly and Beck.
 
Dishonest.
 
And what were the ratings comparisons for that prime-time 5 hour period?....I forgot.
April 29, 2009, 2:15:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
cee | 04.29.09 - 2:20 pm |
 
Anti Obama shows on FNC:
 
1. F&F 3 hours
2. Beck 1 hour
3. Cavuto 1 hour
4. O'reilly 1 hour
5. Hannity 1 hour
6. Baier final 1/2 hour
 
+ numerous presenters on the supposed straight news shows are blatantly Right wing....Take Megyn Kelly for example....She can't do a story without giving her opinion on it.  
 
Total: 7.5 hours a day.
 
So which news channel is "more" biased? FNC of course.
 
Cee's your on a sticky wicket trying to say there's a news channel more biased than Fox.
April 29, 2009, 2:47:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Kelly & Baier: smeared.
Cavuto, F&F, & O'Reilly: misrepresented.
 
Spot off.
April 29, 2009, 3:01:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
This anti Obama nonsense is a load of bull****.
 
The fact that they present issues regarding Obama's policies is not bias.  
 
Isn't this what the press is supposed to do?
 
Haggis, if you can show us an example of Kelly inserting her opinion into a news story about Obama's policies we would like to see it.
 
O'Reilly biased agains Obama? YOu must not be paying attention.
 
Bair biased? Now, you're a fool.
April 29, 2009, 3:12:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
I can say the same thing about Norah O'Donnell, Haggis....I can say the same about Andrea Mitchell....They have very pro-Obama angles to their reporting and hosting.
 
The amount of passion Olbermann applies to his democrat party shilling is unmatched....even by the libertarian Glenn Beck. Hannity is about the same flavor of Olbermann but he advertises himself honestly....he never claims to be a journalist. Olbermann has always been dishonest in that regard.
 
O'Reilly is more moderate politically than Hannity and again, he is honest in presenting himself as a news analyst/commentator, not a journalist.
 
So in being dishonest about who is a journo and who is an advocate, degree of party shilling, and "radicalness" (demogoguery and shrillness) in presentation, MSNBC is the clear winner while FNC is more fair and balanced.
April 29, 2009, 3:28:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
fox broadcast is not airing the president tonight (i agree-tired of seeing obama)-that should be very happy news to idol viewers (isnt it fox broadcast highest rated show?)
April 29, 2009, 3:34:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
hannity doesnt report to olbermann and can turn down the challange KO gave him respectfully-i dont think hannity will do it-either way i dont care-he does or doesnt
 
there is also one other slogan that foxnews has-they report and we decide-foxnews can air whatever they want biased or not-i will make up my own mind
April 29, 2009, 3:43:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Oops I forgot to add Greta...the Palin apologist...to the list...So that's 8.5 hours of anti-Obama a day
 
Right back to the football...Man U v Arsenal....Come on the Devils!!
April 29, 2009, 3:51:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Give me some examples of Greta being anti-Obama. One rule: not cut and pasted from a website. Based on what you have seen with your own eyes.
April 29, 2009, 3:54:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 04.29.09 - 3:59 pm |
 
I'm not saying Greta is anti-Obama....But just look at the guests she has on...Limbaugh seems to be a regular now....You have to admit her guests are mostly very much anti-Obama...Not all are but the vast majority. I don't see her show as it's on at 3am our time.
Of course her having to admit her husbands roll with Palin severely dented any credibility she may have once had.
April 29, 2009, 4:20:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Greta...the Palin apologist...to the list...So that's 8.5 hours of anti-Obama a day"
 
"I'm not saying Greta is anti-Obama"
 
Uh huh.
 
"I don't see her show"
 
Uh huh again.
 
"admit her husbands roll with Palin"
 
Well I guess that would make her anti-Bush and anti-Giuliani too. I won't get started on why Haggis feels women aren't independent enough to disagree with their husbands. Hey, that makes Mary Matalin anti-Bush too!
 
Tiresome.
April 29, 2009, 4:22:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Tiresome.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 04.29.09 - 4:27 pm |
 
Your right there....We all know FNC are Right wing and MSNBC are left wing....We'll just have to all accept that. That's why I watch BBC/CNN/SkyNews when I want to get objective journalism.
April 29, 2009, 4:28:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
You have to admit her guests are mostly very much anti-Obama...Not all are but the vast majority. I don't see her show as it's on at 3am our time.
Of course her having to admit her husbands roll with Palin severely dented any credibility she may have once had.  
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 4:25 pm |
 
simple question: how do you know since you admitted that you dont watch her show?
April 29, 2009, 5:36:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Come on Ashley admit it you really missed me over the last few months.  
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 2:03 pm | #  
 
Have you been gone?
April 29, 2009, 5:39:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
Is he serious?
 
i think he is-i think olbermann despises hannity (each other really-thats just my opnion)
 
according to olbermann, HANNITY is irrelevent?? why would olbermann care?
April 29, 2009, 5:40:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Limbaugh seems to be a regular now....
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 4:25 pm | #  
 
Limbaugh was on ONCE.
April 29, 2009, 5:41:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
chris | 04.29.09 - 5:41 pm |
 
I put my mince pies to good use.
April 29, 2009, 5:56:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
chris | 04.29.09 - 5:45 pm | #  
 
Chris, are you postingh over at the Hen House? Don't you realize they are toying with you? They have no interest in what you say. You made the mistake of saying something positive about Bush and Anisha started with the name calling.
 
They are a predictable bunch over there.
 
You're wasting your time over there. Not to mention the various diseases you may contract from little john.
April 29, 2009, 6:01:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 04.29.09 - 5:46 pm |
 
Sorry Ashley your plain wrong with that statement.
April 29, 2009, 6:04:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
Limbaugh was on ONCE.
Ashley | 04.29.09 - 5:46 pm
 
actually ashley-i checked-he has been on:
october 28th 2008
april 20,2009
October 05, 2005
 
my source: youtube-considering those dates could have been added days later
but a regular baises (and that was your point-he isnt)-once in a great while he comes on
 
haggis: you dont watch greta-so how do you know all of her guests that she has on??
April 29, 2009, 6:16:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
We all know FNC are Right wing and MSNBC are left wing....
 
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 4:33 pm | # 
 
Earlier in this thread you claimed that at MSNBC, Olby leaned left "but the rest of MSNBC is mostly straight down the middle. "
 
Limbaugh on more than once? Surprise to me. He called into the show the first time a few weeks back. Was he on again or was she replaying some of his original appearances at a later date.
 
So, how many different times was he on? Again, I only know of once, which was a couple of weeks ago.
April 29, 2009, 6:20:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Greta Van Susteren had Rush Limbaugh on as a guest on April 20th. That was the first time since September 19, 2008.
 
Do you have other dates you can provide Haggis or do you consider 2 visits in the last two years to be "regular".
April 29, 2009, 6:30:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
saw this on media matters:Fox News: 100 days of "opposition" to Obama
 
i have a problem with this:
 
MM used alot of opinionated shows and alot of out of context clips-my beef is with MM NOT FOXNEWS-since this is the truth site about foxnews (and cable news)-i thought i would bring it to your attention ( i remember last week-i accused foxnews taking someone else out of context which i also saw on MM and we disagreed on it)
April 29, 2009, 6:31:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
haggis: you dont watch greta-so how do you know all of her guests that she has on??
chris | 04.29.09 - 6:21 pm |
 
Chris I answered that question in my 6:01 pm post.
 
Ashley you said he was on ONCE....You were wrong...a quick google shows this and I'm sure Johnny won't want falsehoods being perpetrated....So will back me up 100%.
April 29, 2009, 6:32:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Tiresome.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 04.29.09 - 4:27 pm | # 
 
Oh, hell, yes...
 
How many times is Haggis going to start this argument?
April 29, 2009, 6:32:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
So, how many different times was he on? Again, I only know of once, which was a couple of weeks ago.
Ashley | 04.29.09 - 6:25 pm | # 
 
ashley-3 times on greta at different times 
 
i know he has been on with hannity, and cavuto-not sure about anyone else (i've seen it both times on the channel)
 
not alot enough to be considered a regular
April 29, 2009, 6:35:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
April 20th 2009 & September 19, 2008
Ashley | 04.29.09 - 6:35 pm | 
 
I don't know where your getting 2 year from....I make it 8 months...But please continue....I don't want to disrupt your spin on this matter.
April 29, 2009, 6:40:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Hillary Clinton has been on Greta far more times than Limbaugh. If Rush is 'almost a regular', I guess that makes Hillary almost a co-host. And Haggie, are you purposely ignoring the link I included at 3:59?
April 29, 2009, 6:41:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Ashley you said he was on ONCE....You were wrong...a quick google shows this and I'm sure Johnny won't want falsehoods being perpetrated....So will back me up 100%.
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 6:37 pm | # 
 
Haggis, yes indeed I said that, however it was in response to your claim that he was almost regular now as in "Limbaugh seems to be a regular now..."
 
I was talking about the now not for all time, obviously one must be very specific when dealing with you as you have difficulty accepting input that is not black and white, while having difficulty providing output that always appears to be gray. Excuse me, grey.
 
Back to you.
 
Rush Limbaugh has been on the show once in the past 6 months and you interpret that as "Limbaugh seems to be a regular now"?????
 
As I have said before and you repeatedly prove me right, your analysis is spot off.
April 29, 2009, 6:44:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
And Haggie, are you purposely ignoring the link I included at 3:59?
johnny dollar | Homepage | 04.29.09 - 6:46 pm |
 
No I'm not purposely ignoring your link.....but are you purposely ignoring my comment in my 4:25pm post?
 
"You have to admit her guests are mostly very much anti-Obama....Not all are but the vast majority"
April 29, 2009, 6:46:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
hah - I posted at Dollar's this afternoon and its a no-show. I'm banned. Guess its cuz I never said sorrrreeeeeee! tsk, tsk, tsk. 
_________________
 
Posted by: pegleg peggy on Wed 4.29 5:39pm 
 
Wrong!! Most likely because you're ignorant.
April 29, 2009, 6:47:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Pegleg Pegleg Pegleg...still can't tell the truth. She never even replied to the challenge. She knows that. She blew it off, because she has no desire to post here, don't you know? Now she's claiming that she didn't say 'sorry'? Nobody asked her to, but the fact that she thinks that suggests to me that she knows her statement about me was false. Otherwise she would've said she didn't produce the documentation she had to back up what she said.
 
Sorry Pegleg, hope you and your parrot are happy. It's your choice and you've made it.
April 29, 2009, 6:59:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Johnny - there is an excellent bar chart showing the monthly decline in Maddow's ratings over at Chickaboomer. I didn't realize that she was in such trouble. From October to April, she's lost almost 50% of her overall viewers and more than 50% of that demo.
 
Speaking of "the demo", Haggis, I notice that you haven't been commending Nancy Grace lately on her terrific showing in that demo. Seems to me you were doing it quite often in the recent past.
April 29, 2009, 7:03:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
You're wasting your time over there. Not to mention the various diseases you may contract from little john.
Blackflon | Homepage | 04.29.09 - 6:06 pm |
 
yes i do-they want to play games-i wont(funny how some of them accused me of playing games)-i wont attack foxnews using blogs or Olbermann coverage who has been discredited over and over again-they wont corrupt me-i noticed the name-calling-it amuses me
i wont catch anything over there-we have been disagreeing all day
 
i will disagree with foxnews and bring it to this blog attention when i see it with MY OWN EYES (its only fair)
April 29, 2009, 7:05:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
And Haggie, are you purposely ignoring the link I included at 3:59?
johnny dollar | Homepage | 04.29.09 - 6:46 pm |
 
No I'm not purposely ignoring your link.....but are you purposely ignoring my comment in my 4:25pm post?
 
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 6:51 pm | # 
 
I see, Haggis is ignoring J$ 3:59 post because because J$ is ignoring Haggys 4:25 post. But at least Haggis admits he is ignoring J$ link, just not "purposely".  
 
Haggis - Since J$ post is first, why don't you go first with an answer.
April 29, 2009, 7:09:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
"You have to admit her guests are mostly very much anti-Obama....Not all are but the vast majority"
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 6:51 pm | # 
 
how do you know (and using you mind-is no answer) -your wrong-your attacking something you admitted dont watch?
April 29, 2009, 7:09:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
"You have to admit her guests are mostly very much anti-Obama....Not all are but the vast majority"
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 6:51 pm | # 
 
Haggis, if this is true than you can provide a list of every Greta guest in the past month and indicate which are pro or con to Obama.
 
I'm assuming you can back up your claim with facts.
April 29, 2009, 7:10:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
i looked up the def. of socialism:
 
so·cial·ism audio (ssh-lzm) KEY 
 
NOUN:
 
1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.
 
MY POINT: Fox news is correct to ask and debate this topic-the government has already done bailouts-they pretty much own the companies they bailed out (AIG,bank of america-which are financial companies and others)
April 29, 2009, 7:12:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Yes, Pegleg claimed you lied about something, she just never stated what that lie was, nor did she provide any evidence of a lie.
 
You asked her to provide some information on that.
 
She refused and said she would provide it when she felt like it.
 
You told her then that she could not post again at J$P until she provided detail on the lie.
 
She knows that.
 
Her post at NH referenced by Blackflon is clearly an intentional lie on her part.
April 29, 2009, 7:12:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
April 20th 2009 & September 19, 2008
Ashley | 04.29.09 - 6:35 pm |
 
I don't know where your getting 2 year from....I make it 8 months...But please continue....I don't want to disrupt your spin on this matter.
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 6:45 pm | # 
 
haggis you forgot to mention: October 05, 2005
 
haggis: limbaugh is a regular
ashely and I: no he is not
April 29, 2009, 7:17:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
from another days thread:
 
when has obama said he'll take guns away? Posted by: Chris G on Sun 4.26 9:28pm (on NHs)
 
He effectively did in Chicago, chris.
 
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/ ...gun_control.htm
Fox Fan | Homepage | 04.26.09 - 10:42 pm | # 
 
i read it and i agree
April 29, 2009, 7:52:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
I don't know where your getting 2 year from....I make it 8 months...But please continue....I don't want to disrupt your spin on this matter.
Haggis | 04.29.09 - 6:45 pm | # 
 
Well, we can look at it two ways.
 
First way:
 
He was on once in 2008 and so far once in 2009. 2008 and 2009 are two years.
 
Second way:
 
Between the two-year period from April 28, 2007 through April 28, 2009, a two-year period, he was on two times.
 
That's where I get two years.
 
He was on two times in two years, and you claim it's like he's a regular guest.
 
Haggy - my suggestion for you:
April 29, 2009, 8:18:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Damail
Latest Newswoofs update: They are still hell-bent on defending Janeane Garofalo's disgusting statement. Their latest thread brought out all the Garofalo-is-right goobers in full force - and it included Mr A saying "If Hannity had any guts, he would have her on his show..."
 
Newsflash, Mr. A: He did. 5 years ago, during the Dem convention. Twice on his radio show, and once on TV. No doubt he would love to have her come on again, but Garofalo made a fool of herself last time, so you know she will never come on again.
 
Of course, when I try to post this little bit of truth to power, it gets blocked. My gosh, ignorance really has a frightening grip on those people.
April 30, 2009, 12:57:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
The evil GOP-loving Greta interviewed Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) tonight.
April 30, 2009, 2:06:37 AM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
If Hannity had any guts, he would have her on his show..."
Damail | Homepage | 04.30.09 - 1:02 am | 
 
how about she makes a return visit to hannity
April 30, 2009, 12:18:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
how about she makes a return visit to hannity
chris | 04.30.09 - 12:23 pm | # 
 
I think that would be entertaing to watch to see them go back and forth . But I have a feeling that she wont appear.
April 30, 2009, 1:39:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply