12/19/09 11:27 AM

Monday Links and Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

CNNer quits, joins Obama administration.

Friday's numbers: another FNC sweep!

Love connection: White House & MSNBC?

Glenn Beck is John Galt?

Soledad vs Mika. FNC invites Chace.

Video: Janice returns to FNC.

Fox connects. Tumbles: Gretchen, Kiran.

Profiles: Marc Lamont Hill, Norah O'Donnell.

Beck's books. Youtube numbers. Larry goes highbrow.

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




Ashley
Based on Larry King's guest schedule this week, it would have to be very pathetic for Rachel Maddow if she loses in the ratings to King over the next few days.
May 4, 2009, 12:36:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
On the Doctor Hill profile:
 
Hill traveled to D.C. on his own dime, not even taking expense money. As a much-in-demand speaker, he feels obliged to scatter some freebies among the 50-plus appearances he makes each year.
 
That statement speaks volumes about his character.  
 
:+:
May 4, 2009, 2:06:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Glenn Beck's Incest Fantasy
Reported by Ellen - May 4, 2009 - comments  
 
Guest blogged by Julie.
 
These people are disgusting. How low will they go with their hate mongering?
May 4, 2009, 2:08:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
The thing is, not only are they disgusting, they're desperate. They are posting more and more articles that simply repeat the points from some other site: in other words, when it comes to 'we watch Fox so you don't have to', they're increasingly outsourcing the 'we watch Fox' part!
 
Well that's one way to keep posting stuff. That's all background info to make this point. The latest post about Glenn Beck? It's a rerun from last month. See here:
 
http://tinyurl.com/d64mcp
 
Apparently that insightful piece of analysis was so popular that they thought they'd just gussy it up and throw it out there again. Toss in more words, a few quotes so people don't actually have to follow the link and read the actual words, and presto! They have a "new" post! With the attention span in the kennel it's doubtful many will even remember the first one. After all, it was almost two months ago!
May 4, 2009, 2:16:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
These people are disgusting. How low will they go with their hate mongering?
Blackflon | Homepage | 05.04.09 - 2:13 pm | #  
 
How low?



















Low.
May 4, 2009, 2:18:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
johnny dollar | Homepage | 05.04.09 - 2:21 pm | #  
 
and after reading 100 pages of the J$ lies thread over at Bassett central, I can confirm that I never saw evidence/proof of one lie from you.
 
Of course there were thousands of comments from Patsy, Anisha, the man-child, John T, PegLeg, etc where they claimed that you lied, but they never EVER backed up their statements with any form of evidence.
May 4, 2009, 2:21:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Wow... Despite the multi-culti promise of her name, Soledad O'Brien's description of her "cooking" (She assiduously follows "instructions" and preps well.) easily describes her personality too: incurious, close-minded, chipper little leftist ideologue.
 
I bet she's one of those people who buys those thingees for separating egg yolks from whites, because she doesn't like using her hands.
 
She's a walking tv dinner.
May 4, 2009, 2:42:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
Posted by: Anisha PbD on Mon 5.4 1:06pm  
 
And I thought I didnt matter little girl?? I guess I do (why talk about someone if they dont matter?) she thinks I'm actaully done with NH?? I guess she never says anything out of anger (the I'm done with Nh part,). She is so "blind" that she cant even admit it!! Since I'm banned little girl, why not get rid of my threads you made for me?? If you dont, I'll consider it as I STILL matter to you. (since you claim I dont matter at all). What is with the being abossed part of Ellen?? Ellen is obsessed with foxnews channel and dollar!! and she goes and accuses dollar of being obsessed with her?? Maybe the truth since she lies so much and thens act as the vicitm!!
Little girl, all rhetorical questions, I guess you cant ever read them and understand them  
the mind never ceses to amaze me
 
Ellen is playing everybody has fools!!!
 
BTW: the above is the truth not non-sense (well just to you maybe little girl)
 
Ashley,
 
Its easier just to call someone a liar. But harder to back it up
 
Also Do you still think I'm the lil fella? I ask because,you never answered me in a diffrent thread
May 4, 2009, 2:49:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
"The Real America (P. 154) (H/T Newshound Julie), where he goes on and on, in exhaustive but pointless detail, about some supposedly fictitious incestuous relationship with his sister. "
 
Does anyone know what this is about other than an implication that a fictitious imcestual relationship may actually be real?
May 4, 2009, 2:56:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Ashley, on their behalf, I don't think they were there to present "evidence".  
 
They were there to write 'bad words' and say 'you suck'.
May 4, 2009, 3:01:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Fox Nation Points Gun At Obama's Head
Reported by Ellen - Mon 2:17 PM
 
Wait until you read this one. These people are losing their minds. The hate runs deep at the Hen House.
May 4, 2009, 3:06:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Boy, that Ellen seems to piss-off men more than if you shave your legs with their razor.
May 4, 2009, 3:08:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Does anyone know what this is about other than an implication that a fictitious incestual relationship may actually be real?
Grammie | 05.04.09 - 3:01 pm | #  
 
It's about smearing Beck. Or Ellen is...... oh, never mind.
May 4, 2009, 3:15:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
I went over to foxnation and saw it for myself, i disagree with who ever decideded to do that in that order.(if that was done to bush by say MSNBC/K.O., I have a feeling fox news OPINION hosts would be in a fit,Oreilly, hannity, beck)
 
I find foxnation biased, am i wrong??
May 4, 2009, 3:36:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I think the featured spots may be automatic, based on order posted, or comments made, or whatever. Whether or not, it's not a great placement, but it's silly to claim it's some sort of secret assassination code, like the kennel dwellers seem to think.
May 4, 2009, 3:39:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Ashley,
 
Its easier just to call someone a liar. But harder to back it up
 
Also Do you still think I'm the lil fella? I ask because,you never answered me in a diffrent thread
chris | 05.04.09 - 2:54 pm | #  
 
Yes
May 4, 2009, 3:45:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Blackflon | Homepage | 05.04.09 - 3:11 pm | #  
 
I notice Ellen's first link to Fox Nation doesn't work.
May 4, 2009, 3:46:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
"I went over to foxnation and saw it for myself,..."
 
Oh, my god! And at the same site there's an Irish guy about to coldcock FOX News!
May 4, 2009, 3:50:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
I agree with you, Johnny, that it was nothing deliberate and sublimal but doesn't look right. Even after reading NH first it took me a few seconds to see the picture of the rifle and its position. The block with the rifle almost disappears into the page with its plain white background next to the more visually appealing pictures.
 
However, shouldn't they have rearranged the page by now?
May 4, 2009, 4:03:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Also Do you still think I'm the lil fella? I ask because,you never answered me in a diffrent thread
chris | 05.04.09 - 2:54 pm | #
 
Yes
Ashley | 05.04.09 - 3:50 pm | #  
 
If this is so, Ashley, Chris either won't be able to keep it together, or he will manage to act like a thoughtful and civilized human being, making us the best thing that ever happened to him.  
 
He will have benefited from the sort of influence that he couldn't get at NHs.
May 4, 2009, 4:12:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Oh, my god! And at the same site there's an Irish guy about to coldcock FOX News!
Cecelia | 05.04.09 - 3:55 pm | #  
 
Good find Cecelia, but that's no Irish guy, that's the l'il feller wearing the only clothes that fit!
 
Since photo 3 is of the rainbow flag, won't the kennel dwellers give FNC some credit for promoting diversity?
May 4, 2009, 4:13:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
I find foxnation biased, am i wrong??
chris | 05.04.09 - 3:41 pm | #  
 
Do you also find Huffington Post biased? Do you also find News Hounds biased? Do you also find Democratic Underground biased?
 
Biased is in the eye of the beholder.
 
People like the News Hounds say Fox is biased because before Fox(which does in fact lean right) came along there were few outlets with the conservative point of view.
 
Before cable we had ABC, NBC and CBS in TV. Then there were the liberal leaning newspapers which far outnumbered the conservative newspapers.
 
Fox balanced all that suff out by going right.  
 
What the left mostly misses is that the actual news reporting on Fox is pretty straight. Yes, they may stray a little but don;t they all.
 
The liberals just can't seem to separate news from opinion when it comes to Fox.
 
And don;t get me started on the lying bs that News Hounds and others throw at Fox. They twist things around so much just to make it look like a lie. I have yet to see them provide clear, doumented evidence of a purposeful lie.

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May 4, 2009, 4:14:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
"At The White House, as we always like to say, we love MSNBC."
 
That endorcement comes at about 1:56.  
 
To each their own.

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May 4, 2009, 4:39:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
I'm 30 minutes behind the master.....
 
Sorry for the link, J$, now I see you got it from TVNEWSER.
May 4, 2009, 4:41:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
Blackflon,
 
Do I also find Huffington Post biased
 
yes at times
 
Do I also find News Hounds biased
 
very much so (thats why i come to $)
 
Do I also find Democratic Underground biased?
 
I dont visit the site,
May 4, 2009, 4:46:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Re: "Love Connection: White House & MSNBC?": Kareem Dale has confirmed what we all knew. I bet they also love Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz, Chris Matthews, and David Shuster, am I right?
May 4, 2009, 4:49:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
If this is so, Ashley, Chris either won't be able to keep it together, or he will manage to act like a thoughtful and civilized human being, making us the best thing that ever happened to him.  
 
He will have benefited from the sort of influence that he couldn't get at NHs.
Cecelia | 05.04.09 - 4:17 pm | #  
 
I truly hope I'm wrong about this, but Chris came in the same way Baba/Michael Todd aka Michael Weston aka David Troyer came in to J$P back in January.
 
I could very well be wrong about this and was beginning to think I was, until I saw him do something I actually predicted he would do; engage in an argument with David Troyer.
 
To Chris - if I am wrong or if I am right, the truth will ultimately become obvious to everyone. Just don't worry about what I think.
May 4, 2009, 4:58:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
"At The White House, as we always like to say, we love MSNBC."
 
Crickets from the left. A far different response compared to what would have been if that was someone in the previous administration referencing Fox.
May 4, 2009, 5:06:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
MSNBC and the White House sitting in a tree...
 
Awww...I see a little bouncing bundle of a govt contract for GE windmills, in the future.
May 4, 2009, 5:17:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
I'm not, ashley. I'm simply chris.maybe i should do what i did before, sit back and watch and say nothing.
May 4, 2009, 5:34:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Check this out.
 
They love you, Johnny!!!!
They really love you!!!
 
http://nhotiki.wikispaces.com/The+Johnny+Dollar+Wars+of+%2709
May 4, 2009, 5:38:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Ah the old 'stopwatch' lie again. They love to trot that one out. When you see how blatantly they lie about this site, that gives you an idea of how blatantly they lie about Fox News.
May 4, 2009, 5:40:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
will someone PLEASE SEND THIS TO THE SECRET SERVICE !!!!!!!!!!! NOW. THIS IS OVER THE TOP.  
SEND ALSO TO THE BLACK CAUCAS . THIS NETWORK IS OUT OF HAND NOW AND THE NETWORKS SHOULD BE REPORTING THIS. THE HELL WITH THIS MISS CALIFORNIA B### ####. FOX IS PROMOTING VIOLENCE AND ASSASINATION AGAINST THE PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS A HATE SIGHT FOR THE KKK.
reginald smith | 05.04.09 - 3:44 pm |  
 
 
This really does need to be reported. They knew wexactly what they were doing with this horrific image.
dasm | 05.04.09 - 4:19 pm | #  
 
Please forward this to the United States Secret Service.
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ProfessorDuh | 05.04.09 - 2:44 pm | #  
 
My, my, my. The Hounds have turned into rabid dogs

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May 4, 2009, 5:47:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
i send a e-mail to ellen that defends $, copies $ to it and i'm the bad guy? no matter what i do, i lose
May 4, 2009, 6:02:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
That is true (about the letter).
May 4, 2009, 6:10:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Black, do you mind if I use your two excellent posts to make a point.
 
This is from ooooh The Mains as they call it with pride:
 
" will someone PLEASE SEND THIS TO THE SECRET SERVICE !!!!!!!!!!! NOW. THIS IS OVER THE TOP.  
SEND ALSO TO THE BLACK CAUCAS . THIS NETWORK IS OUT OF HAND NOW AND THE NETWORKS SHOULD BE REPORTING THIS. THE HELL WITH THIS MISS CALIFORNIA B### ####. FOX IS PROMOTING VIOLENCE AND ASSASINATION AGAINST THE PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS A HATE SIGHT FOR THE KKK.
reginald smith | 05.04.09 - 3:44 pm |  
 
This really does need to be reported. They knew wexactly what they were doing with this horrific image.
dasm | 05.04.09 - 4:19 pm | #  
 
Please forward this to the United States Secret Service.
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ProfessorDuh | 05.04.09 - 2:44 pm | #  
 
My, my, my. The Hounds have turned into rabid dogs"
 
Plus this one that I particularly enjoyed from the thoughtful and serene Can O Whoopass:
 
"I'm trying to imagine how long it would've taken to surround 30 Rockefeller Plaza(NBC) with FBI, Homeland Security, NY Swat,CIA, FCC and Rudy Julie-anus if Olberman's website had a gun pointed at Bush, Cheney, Rice.
Can O Whoopass | 05.04.09 - 3:35 pm | # "
 
Notice how those comments above taken from The Mains nails this statement down as indisputable:
 
"Eventually the O/T, or Off-Topic Forum, was born, as a place where NH regulars - .... could delightedly launch their own topics and play in the sandbox provided, within reason, until the cows came home,"
 
It continues with the real money quote:
 
"at a distance from the more measured and focused posts on the Mains." :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:  
 
Are these people obtuse, delusional or both?
May 4, 2009, 6:21:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
I'm not, ashley. I'm simply chris.maybe i should do what i did before, sit back and watch and say nothing.
chris | 05.04.09 - 5:39 pm | #  
 
Why even care about what I think? If I am wrong about it, then your doing this is foolish.
May 4, 2009, 6:25:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
Maddow under a million in total viewers again, and behind Joy Behar subbing for Larry.....tsk, tsk, tsk.
May 4, 2009, 6:48:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
ashley, fine. I wont care.
May 4, 2009, 7:00:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
this is funny to me:
 
to David Troyer: I'm olby sucks working undercover
 
to Ashley: I'm the lil fella
 
how did i manage that. by disagreeing with everyone?
May 4, 2009, 7:15:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
"The O'Reilly Factor" made its debut on the new set in Studio A. I love it! I wonder if this means "Red Eye" is finally going HD and debuting their new set.
May 4, 2009, 8:29:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
***WARNING***: O'Reilly told Ellis Henican at the end of the Factor Follow Up segment, **jokingly**, "Ellis, you gotta shut up or I have to cut your mic." Watch this become another gotcha for the Olbermanns, Terkels, Boehlerts, Neiwerts, Linkins', Sheas, Kitmans, and Brodskys of the world.
If anyone doesn't know whom I'm referring to, I'll give their first names.
May 4, 2009, 8:53:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Yeah the joke to Ellis will be taken just as you say. But I think Bill's gonna get raked over the coals tomorrow for that '24' clip he just played. Those who are following the show and know the plot will understand why.
May 4, 2009, 8:54:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
how did i manage that. by disagreeing with everyone?
chris | 05.04.09 - 7:20 pm | # -
 
You did it mostly by being new in a medium where people are often are deceptive and unaccountable in ways that they could never be in real life.
 
If you want respect, just stick around, go about your business, and earn some trust.
 
That's what adults must do in any area of life.
May 4, 2009, 9:00:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
I'm watching on DVR delay and haven't gotten up to that part yet. But I'm sure that's a bigger piece of "comedy gold," as Man on Fan Olbermann would call it. If he does attack Bill for that, it would be another Great Moment in Olbypocrisy. "24" is evil...unless O'Reilly doesn't get it. Then, it's a club to hit Billo [Ding!] over his dim bulb [Ding!] head with.
May 4, 2009, 9:00:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
I saw the clip now. That wasn't too bad, which is easy for me to say since I don't watch "24."
May 4, 2009, 9:40:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Chris, worry less about what people think of you and more about what you think of the issues at hand. Cecelia is right, the default stance on newcomers is skepticism because of a long history of sockpuppetry and trollish disingenuousness.  
 
I think you're Chris, but again, don't worry about that.  
 
That said, how dumb are the NHs to mess up the link to Fox Nation in their article? They linked to some link squatter who omitted the . after www. And why does Fox Nation use an M1 Garand in their picture? Surely the surging gun sales aren't for WWII rifles!
May 4, 2009, 9:49:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
This is so sad. I'll do my best to hold up until I've set it down. I'll just have to perservere through the pain and tears. sniff sniff
 
Just when I thought Ellen had stepped in and calmed her brood so that they all could just get along it seems some of the pups, and now Ellen herself, are starting back at it.
 
The carnage so far seems to be confined to Ellen, johnt, Wuzupdawk and UKLib.
 
I want to make it perfectly clear that the real culprit/cul;prits are Dollar and his Dollarites. Without us Ellen and her pups would live in perfect harmony.
 
Check out page 2 and 3 if you need proof from your own eyes only.
 
http://forum.newshounds.us/viewtopic.php?t=27939&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
 
As Ellen said the internet is a permanent record so it is important to counteract all those lies from J$P.
 
Now, if only they could manage to do it without laying bare the seamier side of themselves.
May 5, 2009, 12:29:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
I think the only reason BOR showed the clip is because Jack Bauer berated Janis Gold, Jeane Garofalo's character.
May 5, 2009, 12:32:00 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
This is rich, to say the least.
 
Patsy waxes eloquent on THE REAL REASON he and his pals turned NH into a sewer:
 
"The original thread went out of control in part because some of us, including me, responded with insults to the insults hurled from the JB$ site. "
 
Can he possibly be that ignorant of his own behavior and some others that he believes that tripe?
 
It's laughable! :lol:
May 5, 2009, 12:58:34 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Janeane.
May 5, 2009, 1:31:47 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
"Red Eye" remains in Studio D and remains in SD.
May 5, 2009, 3:07:32 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Grammie, apparently the NHs don't even need a J$ thread to squabble amongst themselves. They continue to insult and belittle each other. 
 
Perhaps Ellen will eventually realize that her readers aren't interested in making nice with each other, it's like trying to make a junior high school get along.
May 5, 2009, 7:10:34 AM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
Ellen has/is effectively playing the vicitim, and her sheep is blindly following, how sad
May 5, 2009, 9:15:48 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Can he possibly be that ignorant of his own behavior and some others that he believes that tripe?
 
It's laughable! 
Grammie | 05.05.09 - 1:03 am | # 
 
It is always someone's else's fault with that crowd.
May 5, 2009, 10:05:59 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
'"The original thread went out of control in part because some of us, including me, responded with insults to the insults hurled from the JB$ site. "'
 
-AAP
 
Oh, baloney! 
 
As though Johnny would let through anything close to the filth and the craziness that are Patsy's trademarks.
 
He did the same thing at Olbermann Watch using insults about incest and bestiality. 
 
I don't think there was a dirty word or a perversion that he didn't use when talking about Cee or Royal King.
 
No, you got "out of control", Patsy, because you are only IN control when your back is up against the wall. 
 
Otherwise you're a filth spewing, name-calling, game-playing compendium of sheer lunacy.
 
Sooner or later, even Ellen will see that your usefulness in throwing poop at people who she doesn't like either, is not an adequate trade-off for your hostility, shenanigans, and the sense of malaise you bring to others on the board.
 
Sooner or later, enough people at NH will demand it.
May 5, 2009, 10:29:01 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
You nailed Patsy again, Cecelia.
 
One other thing you can always count on him for is his same old repetitive trick that earned him his name, Patsy the One Trick Pony.
 
Can you belive that almost a year later he still is spewing bile over R Cox.
 
I think he needs a vet. Anyone as obsessed as Patsy is has to be one very sick pup/pony!
May 5, 2009, 11:21:03 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Grammie,
 
It took Ellen and some of her posse a bit more time to finally see what was obvious to some others about the JD thread, but eventually they got it.
 
I think in time, they will 'get there' when it comes to AAP too.
May 5, 2009, 4:30:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply