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Friday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [8:10 pm]:

R.I.P.: Tim Russert. Coverage: CNN, FNC, MSNBC. Bio. Reax: radio, blogs, peers, Roger Ailes, TV Week, Time, Forbes, Poynter. Meet the Press future?

Adam Housley: security gap.

Dobbs demurs.

FoxFan day: meet the Mets.

NBC woos Weather.

Abrams absurdity.

Geraldo moves to 10:00 pm.

New York Times: Sexism spat; reax: Moderate Voice, No Quarter. Audio: Gibby defends Couric. Olby vs Sklar dustup. Susan Estrich: the list.

Hotline quotes.

The sleeping bag war.
Iraq pack.

Cablers: heightened scrutiny.

Town hall wrangle: Stelter.

MSNBC punked?

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply

Regarding the NYT piece....
Poor, poor MSNBC...."whipping boy" was the term used by the effete leftist Keith Olbermann, once again jumping feet first into hyperbole by employing a racial epithet....
I do not buy it....MSNBC is OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT central and has been since the radical left reared it's ugly head in the primary....the orders from the masters have been met.
Any means necessary were used to oust HRC, which I have NO problem with, BTW. Politics is dog-eat-dog and Clinton Co. used all of their dirty little tricks to try to get to 51% as well....It's just SNOBamessiah and his minions were a little better at it....
And having the radical left demogogues at MSNBC to tout the propaganda was helpful.....good job!
Now on to the GE.....let's see how MSNBC handles getting past McCain....we'll all be watching!
June 13, 2008, 8:52:12 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
The MSNBC punked article is hilarious! The rumors aren't true about Michelle's whitey statement. "Truth: She said they were Crackas." lol
June 13, 2008, 10:09:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply

The Factor
Will Olbermann make MSDNC WPITW for showing a smear site against Obamanation on air and passing it off as and offical Obamanation site? Nope, Keith still has no manhood.
June 13, 2008, 10:56:47 AM EDT – Like – Reply

The Factor
I don't understand how Huff N Puff can complain about McCain’s town hall if McCain gave tickets to Bloomberg’s office. Hasn't Obamanation been courting Bloomberg for quite some time? Bloomberg is and independent. If Obamanation would have showed up, he could have given tickets to who ever he wanted. Where were their complaints when CNN stacked the republican primary debate with democrats?
June 13, 2008, 11:05:21 AM EDT – Like – Reply

david smawley
must be Friday the 13th - Is Geraldo move a positive or negative in Your opinion J$
June 13, 2008, 11:28:08 AM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
That was his old time slot before they tried making it a syndicated show. He requested it, he claims, but whether it's a good move depends on what comes before it. I still don't know what's going to go in that 8:00 pm slot.
June 13, 2008, 11:30:03 AM EDT – Like – Reply

david smawley
I know, the Mike Huckabee variety show.
June 13, 2008, 12:16:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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June 13, 2008, 12:40:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply

I think Abrams (like Keith Olbermann's) is unnervingly inconsistent and utterly lacking in self-insight, until you understand that he thinks that his ideological bent is neutral, in the sense that any logical thought is a neutral and suitable starting point to a discussion, a philosophy, an action, etc.
June 13, 2008, 2:21:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply

The Factor
Sean Hannity has admitted he supports John McCain!!! GASPPP!!!  
Reports Captain Obvious Dan Abrams. Here is another News Flash Dan. So does Karl Rove!!!!!
I think we are all shocked an appalled that Fox News would have a McCain supporter on a debate show. Keep up the good work Dan.
June 13, 2008, 3:22:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
And I imagine the conservative Fox News Contributors/Analysts support him reluctantly.
June 13, 2008, 3:27:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply

The Factor
Check out the Olby/Sklar dust up link.  
Olbermann accusing some else of being a stalker? That's rich.
June 13, 2008, 3:32:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Once again, Dan Abrams shows us the level of intellect and integrity residing at MSNBC.
June 13, 2008, 3:38:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply

On the Mark
Well, the Factor, all crackas are whiteys, but not all whiteys are crackas. So, it is far less inclusive, far less a blanket swipe. I don't much care for crackas myself, but some of my best friends are whiteys.
June 13, 2008, 3:42:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Not that this is relevant to anything being discussed here at the moment, but it IS news related -- as I type this it's just been announced that Tim Russert has died after having a heart attack today.
June 13, 2008, 3:51:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply

What a shock about Russert, Johnny!
One of my favorites. I'm so sorry!
June 13, 2008, 3:51:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply

On the Mark
My goodness, how sad.
The best political newsman in America, bar none.
My prayers for him, as he enters God's nearer presence and for his family!
June 13, 2008, 4:05:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Well Russert is dead. I do offer my condolences to his friends and family.
I hope it is not too disrespectful to note that Tim had earlier worked in key staff positions for Cuomo and Moynihan, two liberal Democrats. Afterwards he became one of NBC's leading journalists.
Ellen Brodsky of Newshounds has a fit whenever Fox hires someone who is even vaguely related to Republican. She doesn't care if Fox hires someone who is related to Democrats (unless it is Dick Morris). And of course people like Tim Russert are always given a pass.
Another example of NH hypocrisy, and another example of the rank hypocrisy of Ellen Brodsky.
June 13, 2008, 4:06:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply

The Factor
Russert was that last once of credibility that NBC News had. I think Russert did make a genuine effort to be fair and balanced. I think the leftward drift of NBC did pull him further than he wanted to go. It is sad that Russert had to pass away and the low point of NBC News. We can only pray now that NBC does not tarnish his name by putting that hack Olbermann or Chris Matthews in his chair on Meet the Press.
June 13, 2008, 4:14:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply

olby sucks
WOW! I thought the 'rip' link was a joke, or something. I, too, respected Tim Russert. 2 sad days in a row for Americans. What next????
June 13, 2008, 4:19:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply

I am absolutely shocked about Russert.
He will be missed.
June 13, 2008, 4:23:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
I was surprised, shocked, and saddened to learn this about 15 minutes ago. I just don't know what to say. God rest him and my condolences to his family, especially Big Russ himself.
June 13, 2008, 4:27:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply

"Olby sucks", I'm afraid that's what I thought at first, too.
I just can't believe this. He truly was the only bright spot at NBC News. But what a loss for the world, and especially his family. And for his son - Father's Day is this Sunday.
My prayers are with them all. What a sad day this is.
June 13, 2008, 4:29:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply

On the Mark
To the few among us who have injected politics into this Russert matter at to those who may elect to do so: That isn't really necessary or appropriate right now, is it?
June 13, 2008, 4:36:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply

olby sucks
Shut your pie hole, philby!
June 13, 2008, 4:39:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply

olby sucks
Sorry, jd.
June 13, 2008, 4:40:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply

The Factor
Maybe the silver lining if there is one is that NBC News will re-examine the direction their News operation is heading and chang course.
June 13, 2008, 4:56:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Don't know if you even saw the classic Mary Tyler Moore show, where people were having trouble containing their laughter at the funeral for Giggles the clown.
The preacher stopped in the midst of his sermon and said, "some of you want to laugh. Well go ahead. Giggles was about making people laugh. There is no better way to honor Giggles than to laugh."
Russert life was about politics. There is no better way to honor him at the time of his death than thoughtfully to talk politics.
June 13, 2008, 4:56:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply

On the Mark
Not a bad point, at all, Danny. Thanks.
June 13, 2008, 5:05:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Again, I thank you for your courtesy,
June 13, 2008, 5:09:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
One quick non-Russert item: I hope The Weather Channel is not bought by NBC Universal, but I know it will be. I know that because I had hoped Cablevision would not buy "Newsday," and that's what ended up happening. I think I said this in an open thread a few weeks ago, but it's worth repeating.
June 13, 2008, 5:14:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply

My thoughts are with Russerts loved ones. And this site has regulars that have class. I was happy to see all of the posative comments.  
Then I made the mistake of looking at News Hounds. Something told me not to because I knew what I would find and I was wright. The lies and hate over there are amazing. They managed to pull in their, I hate Fox, I hate Oreilly, I hate Hannity, I hate anyone and anything that disagrees with me. A low class group to say the least.
June 13, 2008, 7:26:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply

olby sucks
Not a bad point, at all, Danny. Thanks.
On the Mark | 06.13.08 - 5:10 pm | #  
So, we can just disregard your 4:41 attack? Thanks.
June 13, 2008, 7:34:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply

olby sucks
Hey, philby, or whatever your name is today, did you happen to attack your cohorts at dailykos for screaming for orangy to be on mtp within half an hour of Mr. Russerts death death? Did you criticise your pals at nh? Doubt it.
June 13, 2008, 7:45:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
Re: FoxFan Day
I knew they were going to honor me one day! My unrelenting devotion has not gone unnoticed!
Woot! :D
In all sincerity, RIP Russert. I pray for his friends and family. Even if Godless democrats say I'm wasting my time with an invisible man.
June 13, 2008, 9:28:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Crash Chloride
Russert was a class act, he will be missed.
June 13, 2008, 9:30:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Is a video of McCain's townhall event on the net anywhere? I have not been able to find it?
June 13, 2008, 9:33:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
Nothing on Google videos or YouTube yet. It will be up eventually. I missed it too, working late...
June 13, 2008, 9:38:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Crash Chloride
danny | 06.13.08 - 9:38 pm  
I imagine the video is on YouTube but have you heard about the stacking of the audience?  
John McCain is not going to win preaching to the choir.

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June 13, 2008, 9:39:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
Johnny already linked to that topic.  
Is this a surprise to you Crash?
One of the articles linked on Drudge earlier today said that McCain was inviting the attendees before the event even occurred. Not sure why it's news after it happens but not before...
June 13, 2008, 9:42:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Crash Chloride
Fox Fan | 06.13.08 - 9:47 pm  
Yes it is a surprise but it is no surprise that he edited my comment to take the content out. Even less surprising is that your comment will stand as is and this one will be gone.
June 13, 2008, 9:43:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
I think he edited your comment because of your link. I don't think your 9:48 will be gone, as it is on topic to his link on today's cable news article.
If the situation is a surprise to you, you might be underinformed...
June 13, 2008, 9:48:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
You're on thin ice here, CC. Your personal attack on me in another thread stood when you ran away rather than document it or take it back. So you'd better not complain about editing your comment. It was edited, as others have been, because you are cutting and pasting blocks of text--wholly unnecessary--and then inserting a link to a video that's been linked in my main post for over 20 hours now.
If you don't understand, I'll explain it one more time. I don't want links posted in the comments to articles or videos that I've already linked to in the main article. Clear now?
June 13, 2008, 9:49:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
Well, 9:48 was sorta on topic maybe I guess....  

June 13, 2008, 9:49:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply

The videoed Democratic response is up but not the event itself.
See everyone how biased fox is. They put the democratic speech up; but as of yet they haven't put McCain's event up . . . the event the Democrat was responding to. So the Democrats had their say but the Republicans (specifically McCain) did not have his.
Fox news is clearly tilted towards the Democrats.
Oh wait. I forgot. It is supposed to be the other way around.
June 13, 2008, 10:11:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
I see Crash ran away again rather than document or take back his personal attack.  
Maybe he's informing himself so he doesn't have to be surprised next time a pre-stated event occurrs.
June 13, 2008, 10:13:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
Let's keep it that way.
Is anyone watching NBC right now? It's a special hour of "Dateline": Remembering Tim Russert.
June 13, 2008, 10:39:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply

olby sucks
Russert was a class act, he will be missed.
Crash Chloride | 06.13.08 - 9:35 pm | #  
Too bad your pals at nh don't feel the same way. "A right winger" I think is what they called him....pathetic.
June 13, 2008, 11:05:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
Anyone right of Pelosi is a "right winger" to the pathetic NHs. Says something about them.
June 13, 2008, 11:09:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply

olby sucks
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June 13, 2008, 11:24:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Vince P
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June 13, 2008, 11:42:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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June 13, 2008, 11:52:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply

olby sucks
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June 14, 2008, 12:13:56 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
Topic drift.
June 14, 2008, 12:17:41 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike C.
Hopefully, my "Topic drift" comment won't be deleted for rules violation.
Any idea what the 8PM show will be on FNC weekends yet?
June 14, 2008, 12:19:03 AM EDT – Like – Reply

olby sucks
Grrrrrrr. The fun police......
June 14, 2008, 12:26:08 AM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
Saturday it will be a Factor rerun. Don't know about Sunday yet. I hope they put The Strategy Room there.
June 14, 2008, 12:27:25 AM EDT – Like – Reply

olby sucks
I was referring jd, not you mikc.
June 14, 2008, 1:08:59 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Vince P
I'm saddened by Russert's death.
I was listening to Hugh Hewitt's radio show and Russert sounded like a great family man. He loved his family and they loved him. And he comes from a similiar background as mine (patriotic Catholic urban blue-collar)
June 14, 2008, 1:25:01 AM EDT – Like – Reply

My condolences to his family.
When a loved one dies suddenly long before his time it makes the unbearable even more unbearable, if possible. I feel for his family, especially his dad. Parents should not have to bury their children.
June 14, 2008, 2:33:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
olby sucks | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 12:31 am | #
Agreed, that was a fun string of comments.
June 14, 2008, 11:00:23 AM EDT – Like – Reply