12/19/09 11:27 AM

Weekend Links and Open Thread

Weekend cable news links [updated through the weekend]:

Video: Julie runs the Marathon!

E.D. Hill resurfaces.

Media flu flurry.

Matthews on Buckley.

Sunday talkers: HuffPo recap.

Why Gregg Jarrett is away.

Soledad celebrates.

Coop in New Britain. Q&A: Sanjay Gupta.

Audio: Shuster slams Fox. "Progressive" Olbermann?

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in this weekend's open thread.




Mike C.
Re: "'Progressive' Olbermann?": Keith unintentionally admitted he was a progressive last Fall. He said of Rush Limbaugh in WPitW, while pretending to be concerned, "you're one of the best weapons progressives have ever had."
May 2, 2009, 2:17:44 AM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
After the disgusting display of hatred, derision and arrogance Shuster has not one ounce of credibility to judge anyone.
 
From Shuster's own "tea bagging" crap to the Olbermann/Musto trashing of Miss California Thursday evening, heand his news network has placed themselves in a lowly position. FNC has never spewed the degree of bias, hatred and anger that MSNBC has these last few months.
 
The ratings tell the story, and MSNBC is responding in the most primitive manner. Lashing out at the successful competition only shows insecurity.
 
Shuster especially should not be passing judgement on anyone as his pitiful show was recently cancelled. Maddow and Schultz seem to be the next ones and then there's Olbermann. Being MSNBC's only success insulates him from many things, but his level of shrillness and anger tells the same story. He is worried about the rising popularity of Beck, O'Reilly and Hannity and are trying desperately to be seen as relevant.
 
The latest example is Olbermann's move to involve himself in Hannity's agreement to be waterboarded for charity. Attention. That's all it is.
 
The hate speech is dreadful.
May 2, 2009, 8:07:30 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Here is the money quote from Howler regarding Olbermann and his misogynistic attack on Miss California.
 
"As of this morning, only one newspaper in the whole country has stooped to mention Prejean’s implants, or Moakler’s ridiculous conduct. (Unless Nexis is somehow deceived.) In other words, that Countdown segment wasn’t about same-sex marriage. That segment concerned a very strange man’s relentless desire to mock women’s bodies and brains. This conduct has persisted for years—on our “progressive” TV show".  
 
These leftists/progressives/liberals(or whatever name they go by now) are scum.
May 2, 2009, 8:30:50 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
“Are you convinced,” asked O'Reilly, “that Barack Obama's policies are downgrading our terrorism . . . you know, our counter-terrorism efforts.”
 
Burton didn't need to be invited twice: “It's going to have a chilling effect upon the actual counter-terrorism agents' work in the field.” Who? Name three. Name one. Give us something here.
 
Guest blogged by Julie.
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Judas H. Priest!!!!!!!
 
Do I have to explain to anyone how galactically stupid this is? Name names? You have got to be kidding me!!!
May 2, 2009, 11:16:12 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Shuster says to Fox News "prove it. Well Mr. Shuster I would like to have to "prove" some of your unfounded allegations against Fox News. Otherwise SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN!!!
May 2, 2009, 11:20:06 AM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
shuster is wrong, I'm sticking to it. no matter how much someone tries to change my minds (he is right about hannity, but then again didnt hannity once say "i get paid to voice my OPINION"??
May 2, 2009, 12:07:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
Sorry Blakfon....I have to object....The money quote for me was in the following snark.....
 
"But uh-oh! Suddenly, it had been revealed that the lady in question has breast implants! As a major TV progressive, Olbermann sensed that he had to act. (Executive producer Bill Wolff may have been called in to help with his thinking.) But the topic was too challenging for one actor alone.
 
"And since you can't spell 'Musto' without the word 'smut,' Michael Musto, Village Voice seer, was rushed to a nearby studio.  
 
"Progressives of the world, unite! Janeane Garofalo could hardly have said it better—although Musto failed to mention Prejean's obvious limbic brain problems."
 
###
A juvenille, "he, he, he" on my part.
 
Some people really have a talent wen it comes to dressing down the arrogant and smug.
 
Good stuff.
May 2, 2009, 12:20:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
(he is right about hannity, but then again didnt hannity once say "i get paid to voice my OPINION"??
chris | 05.02.09 - 12:12 pm | #  
 
Of course Hannity gets paid to voice his opinion. DUH!! Why would anyone think otherwise?
 
Chris, why are you spending your time in the Hen House when they obviously won't respond to you in an intelligent way?
 
I hadn't noticed you using the Houns style of name calling so that can't be the issue.
 
I do know that the only act that way because you disagree with them on some issues and have no rational response to some of your questions no mstter how trivial they may be.
May 2, 2009, 12:45:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
FROM LISTENING.READING to the right and left:
 
bush years to the left and right: (media)
 
foxnews: all pro
msnbc/many others: all against
 
obama to the left and right (media)
 
foxnews: all against
msnbc/many others: all pro,  
 
you can state facts all day long until you are blue in the face, and no minds will get changed
 
kinda sad really. this is why i hold center views, both sides twist and turn events so much that,where the real truth gets missed
 
(i'm sticking by that to)
May 2, 2009, 12:47:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Hypocrite houndy cannot be serious. If he is he's dumber than a rock:  
--------------------  
 
Chris, why are you spending your time in the Hen House when they obviously won't respond to you in an intelligent way?  
 
I hadn't noticed you using the Houns style of name calling so that can't be the issue.  
 
I do know that the only act that way because you disagree with them on some issues and have no rational response to some of your questions no mstter how trivial they may be.  
Blackflon | Homepage | 05.02.09 - 12:50 pm  
Posted by: john t on Sat 5.2 1:49pm  
 
why would anyone respond rationally to a trival question?  
 
Houndy is likely wishing he could be with Carrie  
Posted by: TR on Sat 5.2 1:55pm  
 
AAHHHHHH!! The smug sense of superiority that permeates the Hen House.
May 2, 2009, 3:07:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Re: "progressive"
 
Thanks for the link to Bob Somerby's piece on the treatment of Miss California by Olbermann and Michael Musto on Countdown, Johnny.
 
It's astounding to hear Musto call Ms. Prejean dumb for not obscuring her opinion on same sex marriage when queried by civil rights champion...Perez Hilton.
 
Evidently, fake breasts are something to be derided, but "diplomatically" rendering up fake opinions is just fine.  
 
I suppose doing that shtick is a way for Olbermann and Musto to give an obscure nod to the fact that Obama, Clinton, Kerry, and Edwards, all roughly shared Miss California's view of gay marriage, during their runs for office.  
 
It seems an anti-gay-marriage platform is tolerable, as long as liberals know it's merely done out of political expediency.  
 
This is a sort of gilding the lily, silicone political stand for progressive pols, who know progressives like Olbermann and Musto will look the other way and NEVER hurt their chances by holding their feet to the fire.
 
In the meantime, it's a hard road for a beauty pageant contestant "dumb" enough to express a conservative opinion for no other reason than that she believes it. For that she must be gossiped about and embarrassed by her own pageant champions, and humiliated on national television.
 
What a follow-up for Countdown after Ms. Garofalo's irrational invective towards political protesters.
 
Who needs the Taliban with "progressives" such as these...
May 2, 2009, 4:39:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
Blackflon | Homepage | 05.02.09 - 3:12 pm | #i
i'm annoying them.i have to be if they keep talking to and about me, and anisha thinks i cant talk about two things at once. I wonder if they are part of the earth is flat crowd. i guess i cant talk about cable news at on site and a different topic at another. they think they can drive me away?? there wrong
May 2, 2009, 4:45:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
The Shuster video should be shown in every school of journalism in the country, as an iconic example of what can happen when corporate and political agendas intertwine.
 
It's chilling to listen to Shuster's hyperbole. The mix of elitist politics/professional ambition/corporate imprimatur can cause the equivalent of an anoxic brain injury.
May 2, 2009, 4:51:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
I thought "progressives" were more likely to embrace cosmetic surgery than conservatives.  
 
That said, I think I've made my opinion on "fake" boobs abundantly clear here on several occasions.  
 
:+:
May 2, 2009, 5:17:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
>The Shuster video should be shown in every school of journalism in the country, as an iconic example of what can happen when corporate and political agendas intertwine.<
It's too bad most journalism schools, at least Columbia and maybe Missouri, agree with Shuster. Schools like that would use Shuster to show their students how journalism is done. "Be like him," the professors would say. "He's a champion. He stood up to the right-wing and right-wing [expletives] like her. And Keith Olbermann is the next Edward R. Murrow. You all should be like him."
May 2, 2009, 5:25:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
I have a general comment. I am sick of people misreferring to Chris Matthews' line of "this thrill running up my leg" as a "tingle." And it's always those on the right that make that mistake. Gov. Mike Huckabee made the misreference last week in his "My View" (or whatever it's called) commentary on "Huckabee." And today on "Fox News Watch," Andrea Tantaros made the same reference after a clip was shown from Tuesday's "Hardball," in which Matthews was revelling in Arlen Specter's defection. It was a "thrill," people, not a tingle!
May 2, 2009, 6:08:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
Mike,
 
I agree
May 2, 2009, 6:54:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Mike C.
I'm glad we agree. If people are going to criticize or poke fun at someone, at least quote them correctly. What can I say? I'm a stickler. It probably comes with having Asperger Syndrome. And it's probably the same reason I can't stand satellite guests talking out of turn or mistaking a pause in a host's question as the end of the question.
May 2, 2009, 8:36:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Posted by: Chris G on Sat 5.2 6:03pm
 
Hey chris, how exactly did you discover the link from '06 that you posted at NHs? It was kind of funny going back and reading some of the comments I wrote back then. Thanks!
May 2, 2009, 10:53:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
research
May 3, 2009, 12:27:41 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
That said, I think I've made my opinion on "fake" boobs abundantly clear here on several occasions.
 
Fox Fan | Homepage | 05.02.09 - 5:22 pm | #  
 
I prefer my fun bags to be real.
May 3, 2009, 12:40:10 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
I'm sure it is no surprise here that I am computer illiterate.
 
I came across this and based on what I think an ISP is I can't understand why the ever lovely and gracious Pegleg thinks the below proves that I am a troll?Mark Koldys started his site specifically to get back at the Outfoxed crew, who founded Newshounds.He put his site up a few months after NH started.
 
"He used to come to NH and try to hijack threads in spite of being asked to stay on topic. Then he stood idly by when his minions used to troll here and pretend he didn't know a thing about it, even when there was a thread on HIS site that specifically started with someone called "tony" bragging about how s/he was causing trouble on our Mains and suggesting that everyone should hit us. I was moderating that night. I no longer have the date but I still have the list of who was here, because that was the evening I began keeping track of trolls and troublemakers.I include partial IP's since I know this will be c+p'd over there:
 
71.238.x6.xx0 J$ himself
64.136.x6.xx5 j$ troll Olby
74.245.xx5.2xx "tony" J$ troll
98.227.93.xx "steve" J$ troll
71.122.x2x.1xx J$ troll grammie
75.165.x0x.x1 J$ troll "fast eddie"
 
And then of course there was, at other times, the infamous Blackflon, better known as Hypocrite Houndy, who used to post all sorts of vile and nasty stuff here. As I am not currently moderating I don't know if he still does, but back before the new moderating system started he was a royal, off-topic, thread-hijacking, name-calling, vile, pain in the ass over here. And then there was FoxFan, another one who fits the same description, and then some.
 
Koldys/Dollar has published Ellen's picture and personal details in the past, something you DO NOT DO. Our occasional poster, bluestater, has a stack of personal details about Koldys, right down to his phone number and address, but s/he would never stoop that low.
 
This is just for starters, but that's enough for you to get the drift.
 
Last edited by pegleg peggy on Fri 5.1 6:23pm; edited 1 time in total
 
Posted by: pegleg peggy on Fri 5.1 6:11pm  
 
How do I even know, I assume there is a way for me to find out, if that is actually my ISP?
May 3, 2009, 1:51:02 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
It's not.
 
PS: Man, they really like to flog that outrageous act of publishing Ellen's picture, "something you DO NOT DO"!!! Except that it was Ellen herself who allowed her picture to be published. She posed for it, and permitted it to be placed on the internet. I didn't sneak into her office and steal it in the dead of night. It's been sitting on the internet--with her permission--for years.  
 
And the 'personal information' of hers I published was her last name--which she has freely used in multiple interviews on the net.  
 
So if Pegleg is lying about me, what makes you think anything she says about ISPs is true?
May 3, 2009, 10:15:29 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
On this fateful day, let us celebrate the hundredth page of the NH OT J$ thread and revel in the fact that it has been the most active thread on the OT since its inception.  
 
We also bask in the glory of its popularity, coming in 3rd in total posts in just a few months behind the two most active threads which have years of history on the OT. We shall celebrate in the future when it quickly overtakes the Welcome and Neocon Wingnut threads.
 
Let us give thanks to the NHs for contributing so greatly to the visitation numbers of J$P, for their browsing of this site in search of c&ps to post on the NH OT J$ thread.  
 
Let us also take pity on the NHs, for their most active thread has a foundation of spite and an infrastructure of froth and bile.
 
Given the fact that the NHs would rather talk about J$P than anything else on their forum, allow me to extend a formal request to Ellen. Ellen, for the sake of honesty it is in your interest to rename Off-Topic Discusstions to Johnny Dollar's NH Forum With a Sprinkle of Other Random Boring S***. Be honest to yourself and to your visitors, for that's what it's become.
 
To all of the NH readers of this message, my greatest thanks go out to you. Without you, your forum would not be dominated by J$P. Without you, your site regulars would be contributing to OT instead of taking the time to spit on you. Without you, dear Patrick, john t, Patsy, Anisha, and Visitor55, your dear forum would not have crumbled into a circle jerk of ignorance, egotism, and intolerance.
 
God bless the NH OT J$ thread. Amen.
May 3, 2009, 10:42:39 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
Johnny, I KNOW I'm not a troll and I know from MY dealing with you are not only honest but well nigh scrupulusly (?) so.
 
I've never posted a thing on the internet, except misspoupou at ICN, under any other name or any other computer than my own. As for misspoupou I have identified myself as Grammie there.
 
To the best of my memory I only commented on what they call "the mains" three times:
 
1) On a thread re Michelle Obama's 'never proud' comment.
 
2) Laura Ingrham adopting a baby.
 
3) One of the "It Happened to Alexa" multiple threads.
 
Except for the last cited, which was one long comment that was the last comment for a few days, every comment I made, barring the first one in each thread, were replies to comments made by the mutts. How does that mean that I hijacked their thread?
 
As for OT, I registered once and commented for 2 (?) days until I got the boot for "hijacking"the thread. Considering that every comment I made except for two or three establishing and introducing myself were DIRECT REPLIES to comments/accusations made by the mutts the reason given, that I was hijacking the thread for some deep dark reason, is so rediculously absurd that it can only be a deliberate lie.
 
What I'm really asking is other than Pegleg writing a number down with no citation other than her dubious word how could that prove anything about me other than in Pegleg's over wrought brain?
 
What is the point of her even putting the number out there with the accusation? Do some ISPs come with scarlet letters tethered to them so Pegleg et al can avoid and mock them as Hester Pringle was?
May 3, 2009, 11:35:45 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Well, since the number she gave is nothing like your ISP number (which I can see here when I admin comments), it leads me to believe that she wanted to reinforce her attack with some sort of fake corroboration, so she made up a number, slapped a few asterisks in it, and then said it was your ISP. Of course as you rightly point out, giving out the number proves nothing whatsoever (particularly when it is false), so that supports the notion that it's just window-dressing to make her attack look truthful when it isn't.
May 3, 2009, 11:45:57 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
And then of course there was, at other times, the infamous Blackflon, better known as Hypocrite Houndy, who used to post all sorts of vile and nasty stuff here.  
 
OH, WOW!!!! Infamous!!!!! I don't know what to say!
 
I want to thank all of my friends at News Hounds for this great honor. It is with an overwhelming sense of humility that I accept this honor.
 
I also wish to thank little john t for being the greatest changeling I have ever known. Without his input at News Hounds this honor could never have been bestowed upon me. He is truly one of a kind.  
 
I especially want to thank Ellen because she reminds me of my English Bulldog.
 
And Priscilla because she reminds me of my late nagging wife.
 
And Antoinette because she reminds me of my transgendered cousin.
 
So, you see, I owe a lot to my friends at News Hounds and I just want to say one final thing to them...FUN BAGS!!!!
May 3, 2009, 12:06:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Our celebration of the 100th page of the most popular Forum thread seems to have struck a nerve with Patrick and Patsy. I'm sorry that the truth hurts, my friends. Why not turn those attitudes around and celebrate with us since you are two of the primary contributors? Toss aside that negativity and bask in the glory of the success that you made of the J$ OT thread!
 
Speaking of fun bags Blackflon, (and OS, if you can touch them they are real) how's it going Peggy? I have two words for you, gorgeous. Peanut butter!  
 
http://tinyurl.com/cg9ok6
May 3, 2009, 1:25:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I'm preparing today's Fox Haters Week in Review. Watch for more nerves to be struck.
May 3, 2009, 1:48:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Our celebration of the 100th page of the most popular Forum thread seems to have struck a nerve with Patrick and Patsy. I'm sorry that the truth hurts, my friends. Why not turn those attitudes around and celebrate with us since you are two of the primary contributors? Toss aside that negativity and bask in the glory of the success that you made of the J$ OT thread!
 
Fox Fan | Homepage | 05.03.09 - 1:30 pm | #  
 
I keep telling you they have no sense of humor over there.
May 3, 2009, 2:06:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
"Our celebration of the 100th page of the most popular Forum thread seems to have struck a nerve with Patrick and Patsy. "
 
100 pages, they must be looking at that as a stupendous cerebral achievement. Good for them.
May 3, 2009, 2:58:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
I'm preparing today's Fox Haters Week in Review. Watch for more nerves to be struck.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 05.03.09 - 1:53 pm | #  
 
cant wait
May 3, 2009, 3:05:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Above all else, folks, raise a glass to the fact that AAP and his merry band of sockpuppets, strawman sockpuppets, and fellow under-the-bridge dwellers are now solely the problem of News Hounds.
 
A moment of thanks for moderators and registration software...
 
Amen, and carry on...
May 3, 2009, 3:08:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Now aren't the Dollarites the ones that get so upset about comments over here that they say insult women? In fact I think hypocrite houndy is one of them.  
 
Hypocrite houndy, thank you for reading NHs.  
Posted by: john t on Sun 5.3 2:09pm  
 
The moron will never get it.
May 3, 2009, 3:11:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
Chris please come home, Mommy misses you.
Ashley | 05.03.09 - 3:03 pm | #  
 
ashley,
 
but i like "playing" with my "friends" there
 
LOL
 
Where is olby sucks anyway? didnt i once say to him, nice hate name or something in this thread?? I forget what we were talking about
May 3, 2009, 3:46:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
doctored video: my eyes are lying to me again??
 
http://mediamatters.org/research/200905010049
May 3, 2009, 4:35:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
its back!!
 
The last one turned into a cesspool. I want a place where we can responsibly expose the Newshounds-obsessed lies of Johnny Dollar/Mark Koldys. So I'm going to lock this thread. Please send all suggested posts to me.
 
Posted by: Ellen on Sun 5.3 4:25pm  
 
this should be fun, will they back it up this time??
May 3, 2009, 5:36:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Oh, with Ellen serving as the gatekeeper, I'm sure this will be a most illustrative, illuminating discussion. Perhaps she can start off with a dissertation on how New York swine flu outbreaks can't have any connection with Mexico because they're too far away. ROFL!
May 3, 2009, 5:56:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Poor Patrick/Patsy/john t. I wonder how many of their posts will go through. :lol: Whatever are they going to talk about there now that their sole reason (well, at least john t has a history there, can't say for the other two) was to post profanities on the NH J$ OT? :lol:
May 3, 2009, 8:15:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Kirk G
J$, I haven't told you a lately but keep up the GOOD WORK
May 3, 2009, 8:17:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Thanx!
May 3, 2009, 8:32:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I think there is some frustration going on. I've already had to screen out greetings from our pals at the pound that had all the standard features: name-jacking, name-calling, and naturally the most coarse grade-school vulgarity. But then, we can't really expect them to suddenly aquire intelligence or maturity, can we?
May 3, 2009, 8:56:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
johnny dollar | Homepage | 05.03.09 - 9:01 pm | #
 
I would never, ever accuse Patsy, Patrick, or John T(royer) of ever acquiring intelligence.
 
By the way, John T won the "Who's dumber, P,P, or J contest. Congrats to John T for being "that damned misinformed".
 
Patrick came in a close second and would have won easily had he not shown that he was able to convince every idiot at newshounds that he was not Michael Weston.
May 3, 2009, 9:16:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
great news, i got banned from the newshounds, i annoyed them to much
May 3, 2009, 10:59:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Oh, with Ellen serving as the gatekeeper, I'm sure this will be a most illustrative, illuminating discussion.johnny dollar | Homepage | 05.03.09 - 6:01 pm | #  
 
I don't know if anything will be as entertaining as the opportunity to see Ellen write--'this from AAP', as little Patsycat rubs himself on her legs, doing everything in world to try and keep alive.... something...anything...about mean ole JD...
May 3, 2009, 11:35:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
great news, i got banned from the newshounds, i annoyed them to much
chris | 05.03.09 - 11:04 pm | #  
 
Wear it as a badge of honor.
May 4, 2009, 8:03:42 AM EDT – Like – Reply


chris
i will blackflon
May 4, 2009, 7:41:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply