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Thursday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [7:20 pm]:

Wednesday's numbers.

Brian Kilmeade "saves" Ainslee?

Q&A: Kiran Chetry.

Baghdad ballet.

Pix: CNN's RTCA after-party.

Video: Greg Gutfeld smacks GLAAD.

Debate overreaction? Olbermann blames Fox! Books Countdown guest to parrot his views.

Immelt "cheering for Keith"?

Hotline quotes.

Coop: Q&A, lecture.

NYT: papal coverage. Impressions: Lauren Green, Ed Henry, Fr Morris. Blitzer and Russert's audience. Morris book reviewed.

E.D.'s Factor fill-in.

China's "formal complaint", "summons".

Inside the ranch.

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.

Mike Chimeri
Re: "Immelt 'cheering for Keith'?": Now, I'd like to submit another new nickname for KO. Ready? Keith "Dinky Subunit" Olbermann. But seriously, that was another great posting by the Cable Gamer.
And it comes as no surprise that KO let loose the Krazy Konspiracy theories in the post-debate coverage on MSNBC.
Mo Rocca needs to update his FNC material. Laurie Dhue is long gone. And who were the other names he threw out at the R&TVC Dinner? I might actually buy the C-SPAN archive DVD. Brian Williams is 1,000x more "Edward R. Murrow-ish" than KO. Meanwhile, I'm recording the White House Correspondents' Dinner next week on my DVR while I'll be at a concert in Connecticut.
I tried listening to the clip of Charles Barron, but I gave up after 30 seconds. I couldn't take it.
One more thing before I go to bed: my latest blog posting is on my frustration over not having FBN. Check it out by clicking on my name.
Good night.
April 17, 2008, 1:35:56 AM EDT – Like – Reply

You've done a good job with your blog, Mike, and I love "dinky subunit" as a nick for Olbermann!
April 17, 2008, 10:12:34 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Of all the debates ABC did the best, they sure have a lot more guts tham MSNBC. No stacked audience and no stupid questions from a snowman.
April 17, 2008, 11:42:30 AM EDT – Like – Reply

So Olbermann thinks that Pres. Clinton's former campaign adviser and communications director asked Obama about Ayers because Sean Hannity told him to ask it...
He's a genius that Olberrmann...
April 17, 2008, 12:11:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Johnny: Why did you ruin my morning with that video clip of Charles Barron?
Coming tomorrow @ Johnny Dollar's place: Malik Shabazz?
April 17, 2008, 12:13:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
>You've done a good job with your blog, Mike, and I love "dinky subunit" as a nick for Olbermann!<
Thank you, Cecelia.
And I ended up buying the DVD archive of the R&TVC (Radio and Television Correspondents') Dinner.
April 17, 2008, 1:28:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply

On The Mark
I think some people miss the point of the debate critcism. It is not the questions that were asked of Senator Obama, but the questions that were *not* asked of either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama. In some sort of inexplicable dive into a pool of minutia, ABC avoids any meaningful discussion of the endless war, the deepening Bush recession, the rising fuel prices, inflation at the grocery store, the ever-sinking dollar. No one would begrudge ABC a few moments about Wright and corkscrew landings. In giving the right-wingers some raw meat, ABC is doing its bit to be fair and balanced, but please some perspective. It was an immensely silly debate.
April 17, 2008, 4:27:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Obamma is playing the Hillary Card. In other words, if you get asked a question that you dont like, claim that you are being picked on. Grow a set obamma.
April 17, 2008, 5:17:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
That was a razor-thin ratings win in the demo and total viewers for "The Factor." (tugs left end of collar)
The E&P guest will be Great Thanksed (maybe even Pleasured) for his efforts.
I absolutely loved Flora Jessop's appearances on "The Factor" last night and "Fox and Friends First" this morning. I applaud her for successfully escaping that cult and her work saving people in similar situations.
April 17, 2008, 6:33:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
That's really too bad because E.D. did a really good job. Just on a technical level she is better than Laura as a sub-host, or Kasich for that matter. But it seems like there are some people who just don't care for her, or aren't willing to give her a chance.
April 17, 2008, 7:01:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Vince P
Laura is my fav guest host.
I loved it when she had on some Democratic party official on for th e06 election and the official wouldn't stop talking in talking points. Laura was ready to cut her mike
April 17, 2008, 7:09:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Johnny: Last night the demo really took a nosedive with E.D. and as a result The Factor barely beat Countdown.
April 17, 2008, 7:48:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply

david smawley
She is not better than Laura on a technical level and next time Laura is the guest host on the factor I expect you to post her pic for a couple days like you did for E.D.Hill. Laura is a far superior to her on almost every level of hosting this show. I find your anti Laura Ingraham bias to be disturbing Johnny!
April 17, 2008, 8:16:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
Sorry he spoke ill of St. Laura, David. (Michelle Malkin used to be the sainted fill-in; at least that was the vibe on the BillOReilly.com message boards, MichelleMalkin.com and Hot Air.)
"The Factor" took a nosedive because everyone was watching the debate on ABC. Yet, the radical left viewers stayed with MSNBC. I don't think E.D. had much to do with that nosedive.
April 17, 2008, 8:24:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
Well if someone posts an article about Laura's fill-in work that worth linking to, I'll link to it and I'll remember to include a picture! I like Laura a lot, but E.D. Hill is a journalist and a longtime professional broadcaster and interviewer. She has the background and training and that shows.
Laura does a very good job, but even though she is my future wife, Laura just isn't as smooth and professional as E.D.
Mike, excellent point about the debate.That probably impacted cable news ratings even more than the sub-host.
April 17, 2008, 8:32:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply

david smawley
Mike, I have no problem with you, just get tired of Laura bashing on this site.
April 17, 2008, 8:32:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
I just did ChimeriSpin for E.D., didn't I? If I like a "Factor" segment or fill-in host, most people don't like it or them. Great American Culture Quiz, Body Language, E.D. Hill, it feels like no one likes them but me.
April 17, 2008, 8:38:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
Never mind about the ChimeriSpin line. I didn't see David's and Johnny's comments until after I posted my last comment.
April 17, 2008, 8:39:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply

david smawley
But what really makes me angry is the promotion of other favorites over Laura on this page.
April 17, 2008, 8:41:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Vince P
I like E.D.'s specials on Jihad
April 17, 2008, 8:43:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply

The Factor
George Snufolupogus was hypnotized by Sean Hannity. Sean's vast knowledge of Karl Rove's mind tricks allowed Hannity to trick Snufolupogus into asking a forbidden question of St. Obamanation.
April 17, 2008, 8:48:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply

david smawley
Not as smooth as E. D? Spare us the professional detail and post Laura's pic for two days, like you did for E.D. I could not disagree with you more - It's your field we are playing on, but I find the response from you to be lame. Like what you do though, just respectfully disagree at 100%
April 17, 2008, 8:54:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
April 17, 2008, 8:56:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
Laura bashing? Not by me. I still have a crush on her. But that doesn't mean I can't make an objective judgment that someone else, at least in one try, did a more professional job than she did. I try not to promote anyone in the posts over anyone else. But the comments are for opinionizing and so I opinionize. You, Mike, and everybody else are free to disagree with me. And I always like hearing suggestions and stuff. Party on.
April 17, 2008, 8:57:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply

david smawley
Well then, next time miss Ingraham is the guest host on The Factor, post her pic on your site like you did for E.D. Hill for 48 hours. That way we will know that you love Laura as much as we do!
April 17, 2008, 9:02:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply

david smawley
Johnny, what say you?
April 17, 2008, 9:07:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
Um, her picture hasn't been up for 48 hours. It hasn't even been up for 24 hours. It went up around midnight last night. I count that as 21 hours.
The pictures I post are intended to be relevant to articles linked in the post. I had a handful of posts when it went up at midnight, and one of them was about E.D. on The Factor, which got a number of comments on the previous day's thread. Because the article got linked, E.D. got a picture.
I'll be more than happy to do the same for Laura (I've used her picture before, by the way) under the same circumstances. If you spot a good, topical Laura article related to her cable news work, email me in case I miss it.
April 17, 2008, 9:14:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
So, as the rest of you see, partisanship cuts both ways. Johnny gets it from both sides.
April 17, 2008, 9:18:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply

david smawley
Johnny, she subs for BillO almost at a rate of once per week, you can find a pic if you really want to. It's up to you.
April 17, 2008, 9:22:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
"Yes, sir, Mr. Smawley, sir. I'll get right on it."  
April 17, 2008, 9:31:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply

david smawley
thanks Mike for your prompt response!
April 17, 2008, 9:35:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply

On the Mark
Scarborough's ego overtakes him, again. He appears to have walked off of Gregory in a spat with Maddow. My read of it is: Maddow started making a point, Scarborough tried to overtalk her, again, as he does with everyone, Maddo says something akin to "Let me finish, then you can dismiss me." Maddow finishes. Next time up, Joe begins pontificating, Gregory ends it, Scarborough ups and leaves. Childish, indeed. And, a shame. Scarborough can be very good.
April 17, 2008, 10:27:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
Did that happen within the hour, OTM?
April 17, 2008, 10:40:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
ICN has something on it. I would've linked to it but I might as well put it in tomorrow's post.
April 17, 2008, 10:50:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply

On the Mark
Gregory ends at 6:00 o'clock p.m., US CDST, Mike, and this episode occurred in the last 10 minutes of the show.
April 17, 2008, 10:54:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
I saw the ICN posting. It seems like a run-of-the-mill occurrence at MSNBC. Either of the two conservative contributors (Scarborough, Buchanan) clash with all the far-left contributors.
April 17, 2008, 11:09:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply

On the Mark
There are clashes, to be sure, not always liberal v. conservative, but often there are good discussions. Maddow and Buchanan post-debate Olbermann was excellent. What set the Gregory episode apart was Scarborough's (apparent) walk-off. I think what is happening here is that many of the liberal/progressive/moderate commenatators simply let the right wingers blow and go. Maddow engages them. Buchanan enjoys it, thrives on it. Scarborough is obviously threatened by it. A confident, conversant, comfortable Buchanan v. a cocky, condescending, crass Scarborough. Doesn't have a thing to do with politics or philosophy, just sociology and psychological. A bit broad, I know, and not at all conclusive. Just thinking out loud. At any rate, good evening.
April 17, 2008, 11:29:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
>a cocky, condescending, crass Scarborough.<
I couldn't agree with you more on that. It makes his WNBC-TV namesake, Chuck Scarborough, look saintly. Then again, he was saintly to begin with.
Incidentally, OTM, feel free to e-mail me anytime. Hopefully, I won't regret the offer.
April 17, 2008, 11:41:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply

I saw the ICN posting. It seems like a run-of-the-mill occurrence at MSNBC. Either of the two conservative contributors (Scarborough, Buchanan) clash with all the far-left contributors.
Mike Chimeri | Homepage | 04.17.08 - 11:14 pm | #  
Right, you are. 2 against thousands. Sounds like a good 'news' source.
April 18, 2008, 12:12:11 AM EDT – Like – Reply