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J$P Video! The News Watch panel analyzes the multiple roles of Keith Olbermann:

From Fox News Watch, February 2 2008

Bill Corcoran
Isaw the show and I find it amusing how the pundits who appear on Fox News Watch tried to make it appear as though Keith Olmbermann was a news anchor simply because he did the lead in to President Bush's State of the Union address and made some wisecrack about the speech. 
The Fox News Watch panel tried to make it sound like what Sean Hannity, Neil Cavuto, Bill O'Reilly and John Gibson do is all in the spirit of commentary and not anchoring a program. 
It is a distinction without a difference and they all know it.
February 2, 2008, 10:20:10 PM EST – Like – Reply

Damian G.
BC: Olby also co-anchors their primary coverage.
Hannity, Cavuto, O'Reilly and Gibson never anchor major events under the guise of disinterested observers.
February 2, 2008, 11:18:55 PM EST – Like – Reply

The one that was the hardest on Keith Olbermann was Jane Hall and she likes Keith Olbermann.
I really expected more from Cal Thomas. 
I should be thankful that Neal wasn't on this week show. It might have turned ugly.
Keith Olbermann lies about allot things on the air and know one even talk about that. 
The homeless Vet thing he tried to put on Bill O'Reilly was really something else.
February 3, 2008, 3:27:20 AM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
NISPCA: I suggest you go to my blog and checkout the You Tube video of the people trying to drop off a petition with 17,000 signatures at the Fox News studio and what happened to them. They were homeless vets and peiople representing homeless vets. I have written many times on my blog about the horrible way the Bush administration is treating Iraq and Afghanistan war vets. 
Are You also aware the suicide rate with Iraq war veterans is now at an all-time hgh?
And BTW. Keith Olbermann provided Bill O'Reilly with a bridge in New Orleans where O'Reilly can go if he wants to see homeless veterans. 
Let's sse if O'Reilly takes Olmberman up on it. 
Don't hold your breath.
After my name is a link to my homepage and you will find everything I said documented there.
February 3, 2008, 5:08:08 AM EST – Like – Reply

Jane suggests FOX is intolerant when OLBY is the intolerant one. Very silly lady.
February 3, 2008, 9:15:16 AM EST – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
Bill, is the homeless vets issue completely lost on you? The answer is undoubtedly yes if you got your news from third party sources (esp 3rd party liberal blogs). Not only did Edwards and Olby LIE about what O'Reilly said, they used homeless vets as pawns in their desperate political games.
If you watched the program, O'Reilly said that Edwards mistakenly attributed the problem of homeless vets to Bush's economy. O'Reilly said that most homeless vets were in such a situation because of mental illness and substance abuse. He also said that some of them would not WANT treatment (as is true for many mentally ill) and would have to be forcibly put into treatment if we wanted 0 homeless vets on the street.
Then we have Edwards and Olby outright lie, saying that O'Reilly said there were no homeless vets which is what the protesting vets said they were told. 
Next time get your facts from the source and not some far-left loon factory.
February 3, 2008, 10:44:31 AM EST – Like – Reply

Thank you Fox Fan for setting the record straight.
February 3, 2008, 12:45:43 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
Fox Fan: I would take the information provided in this link http://www.nchv.org/page.cfm?id=108
a lost faster than I would that military dodging blowhard Bill O'Reilly.
In fact, why don't you put a search through google on homeless veterans and see what comes up.
It blows your argument and O'Reilly's insenstive remarks right out of the water.
And BTW, I have covered the horrible state of how veterans are being taken care of by the Bush administraiton on my blog. 
How anyone could stickup for Bill O'Reilly is beyond me. Even Vets I know who are Republicans think he is full of it when it comes to the homeless situation for veterans and the way the Bush administration has lef the Iraq and Afghanistan veterans down.
Now you go do your homework and come up with some looney right wing thrink tank that thinks everyone who can't make it should be taken out and shot.
February 3, 2008, 1:26:11 PM EST – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
From the site you linked to: 
"Why Are Veterans Homeless?
Homelessness is caused by a number of factors, but generally it can be attributed to health issues, economic issues and lack of affordable housing – or any combination of these."
"Health issues". Just wanted to hammer that in a little for you. The site doesn't prove your point, which seems to be that you think O'Reilly said he doesn't think there are homeless vets. That IS what you're defending, right, Edwards' and Olby's lies? 
The argument isn't whether homeless veterans exist or that it isn't a situation that needs attention. It's whether your talking heads lied about O'Reilly. And they did.
February 3, 2008, 1:34:34 PM EST – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
From the mouth of Bill on his site:
"Fox News blowhard Bill O'Reilly, host of "The Factor," has been screaming his head off that there are no homeless Iraq war veterans in the United States."
Repeating a lie over an over doesn't make it true, Bill. I hope you make a correction because that's a lie, lifted directly from far-left liars. You're too smart to be taken in by such rubbish.
February 3, 2008, 1:50:32 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill & Fox Fan: I would like to see either O’Reilly or somebody else to an investigation on John Edwards’ claim that on the way to make his drop-out speech in New Orleans, he stopped his limo and talked to a homeless vet under a bridge. Sounds like Richard Gere in “Pretty Woman!”
First off, it seems highly preposterous, reckless and outright dangerous that Edwards’ security and Secret Service detail would allow such a thing, especially in crime-ridden New Orleans. And it just so happened that the homeless person was a vet? 
It appears that even in his farewell speech the Breck Girl/ My Little Pony has trouble with the truth!
February 3, 2008, 3:16:14 PM EST – Like – Reply

I have posted from day one of ole billy, appearing on here, always citing radical left-wing sites as his source's. Thanks for finally realizing that FF.
February 3, 2008, 3:25:47 PM EST – Like – Reply

would take the information provided in this link http://www.nchv.org/page.cfm?id=108
a lost faster than I would that military dodging blowhard Bill O'Reilly.
Now you go do your homework and come up with some looney right wing thrink tank that thinks everyone who can't make it should be taken out and shot.
Bill Corcoran | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 1:31 pm | # 
And your oralmann served in what branch there ole billy? And, BJ served in what branch there ole billy? Do tell about these two, one a coward and one draft dodger. Spin ole billy spin. "Taken out and shot!" Now explain how, in your loon mind, you come up with that from someone telling you to prove your theory. And, aren't you lying loon's the genuis' of America yet can't learn spell check or proof read before sending?
February 3, 2008, 3:35:01 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
Are you calling O'Reilly BJ? Shame on you. Don't you know O'Reilly calls Fox female producers and talks about what he would like to do to them. Ask Andrea Mackris, former Fox News producer. She had the audio taoes of O'Reilly talking "dirty" over the phone to herand was going to release them to the media until O'Reilly allegedly coughed $10 MILLION to pay her off.
Now back to the topic of vets. Why don't all you gung-ho right wing chickenhawks call these people LIARS like you did me:
February 3, 2008, 4:46:52 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
And while you right wingers are sticking up for pervert O'Reilly, who never served a minute in the military, why don't you call all these people LIARS too.
February 3, 2008, 4:53:18 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
I suppose this story from the Christian Science Monitor is a lie too.
February 3, 2008, 4:55:36 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
And I suppose O'Reilly, who never served in any branch of the military, would say the Military.com web site is lying:
February 3, 2008, 4:57:51 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
Looks like O'Reilly isn't trying too hard to find homeless veterans. One in every four homeless people in the U.S. is a VETERAN.
February 3, 2008, 5:03:27 PM EST – Like – Reply

you pretend to care of the homeless vets. all you really care about is blaming "the BUSH administration". or BILLO. pathetic. you actually use these ppl as throwing stones. you act like it could all be fixed, IF..... if what? if your liberal lying heroes take over? they doing real great in congress, NOT. your heroes suck.
February 3, 2008, 5:48:17 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
Fox News shows every single day with their lack of coverage of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan how little they care about our brave young warriors.
Keep watching Fox News and you will never hear about a young American who has died in combat serving his or her country.
February 3, 2008, 8:27:55 PM EST – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
"Keep watching Fox News and you will never hear about a young American who has died in combat serving his or her country."
I looked at all of your links Bill. They all say that there are homeless vets. We get it. It's a horrible thing. Please answer me this: What's your point?
Bill O' never said there were no homeless vets. If he did, in your uber-research prowess you'd surely be able to provide a link of video proof. 
Now, you are a liar, Edwards is a liar, Olby is a liar, and so are all of the other left wingers who used the false claim against him. Source it without an out-of-context one-liner; provide video and I'll eat my hat. I watch the show every weekday and can say with 100% certainty that he did NOT say that there are no homeless vets.
February 3, 2008, 10:53:19 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
For all the O'Reilly defenders, here are a few more web sites to feast your eyes on. Looks to me like O'Bully is playing the parsing game.
or this one:
I could go on and on showing you right wingers where O'Reilly said there are not "many" homeless vets and then tried to pin the blame on the vets themselves rather than his beloved Bush administration who have let the vets down. 
There are pages and pages on google of veterans claiming O'Reilly is full of it. 
Are the veterans all wrong and O'Reilly is right?
I think not.
February 4, 2008, 2:56:40 AM EST – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
Sorry Bill, but as a daily viewer or BOR I can assure you that it's the sources you're using that are parsing words. Bill O' never directly or indirectly said that there were no homeless vets. The veterans are wrong because they've been lied to just like you. The sources of the two links you just provided- www.billwaswrong.comin the first and www.newshounds.com in the second- are not credible or unbiased and effectively meaningless. You have yet to show any proof whatsoever of you and your "sources" claims. Guess what- you're not going to find anything because it's a LIE.
This whole situation was cooked up by Edwards, disseminated by his media spin machine, and latched onto by folks such as yourself who don't watch the show, don't know any better, and are eager to smear O'Reilly.
Still waiting for that correction on your site.
February 4, 2008, 7:11:00 AM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
I will NEVER post a correction on my blog because I know people who work for the VA and they tell me the homeless situation is totally out of control.
Are you going to tell me that you did a google searc of "homeless Iraq veterans" and every single site mentioned is lying?
There are pages and pages of sites from google which explain the homeless vet problem.
February 4, 2008, 1:51:12 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
I'll make it easy for you. Go to google's search engine and type in this:
homeless Iraq war veterans
There are over 92,000 mentions of homeless Iraq war veterans.
According to you and O'Reilly they are all BS.
February 4, 2008, 2:01:18 PM EST – Like – Reply

How many homless are Bill helping? oh that's right, zero. other than to use them as props.
February 4, 2008, 4:14:47 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
Vince: I'm a reporter. Reporters report the news. Why do you think my blog in just a few short weeks is pulling in hits from all over the world. It is beause I know what a news story is and I know when you report it. 
The homeless situation with veterans is an important news story that should be told and that is what I do on my blog.
February 4, 2008, 5:53:12 PM EST – Like – Reply

moron vince proves my point brilliantly and you nuzzle up to him. lol you fools. all you care about is using the vets as tools to ATTACK someone. gee, your so F thoughful. lol. idiots.
February 4, 2008, 9:28:53 PM EST – Like – Reply

hey vince, if i misread what you said (i was thinking oreilly) then sorry. just imagine I said that to someone else who thinks like that (theres plenty). geez, im just trying not to get deleted or banned!
February 4, 2008, 9:33:37 PM EST – Like – Reply

tim zank
Well BC, I checked your links, your sources, and your website and it 's obvious to me no amount of common sense or common decency plays a part in your agenda. You're just another re-posting hack playing to a mindless audience.
reporter...heh heh heh...that's funny.
February 4, 2008, 9:38:37 PM EST – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
"Are you going to tell me that you did a google searc of "homeless Iraq veterans" and every single site mentioned is lying?"
You still don't get it Bill, no one said that there were no homeless veterans or that it wasn't a problem. The point here is that YOU lied about what O'Reilly said, "reporting" what you read on some equally fraudulent site that repeated John Edwards' lie. 
"I will NEVER post a correction on my blog because I know people who work for the VA and they tell me the homeless situation is totally out of control."
You won't post a correction on something you lied about because of something completely unrelated? Amazing logic!
February 4, 2008, 10:43:07 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
This will drive all you right wingnuts crazy:
Oh, and to Tim Zank. The audience for my blog are hardly mindless. They are people who are interested in know the TRUTH about what is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan and not the BS Fox News peddles. 
If I'm so out of touch, how come google has 14,900 mentions of me and the Iraq war:
Click on this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=bill%20corcoran%20iraq%20war
It is people like you and Fox News who are letting our troops down, not me. I stick up for them because Fox News doesn't.
February 5, 2008, 2:37:46 AM EST – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
Why would Olby's WPITW drive anyone nuts? No one was there to see it except for *surprise* Media Matters! Olbermann and Media Matters are as factless and fraudulent as your claim that Fox News doesn't stick up for our troops. Incredible. 
Still waiting for that proof that O'Reilly said there were no homeless vets. Also that retraction. Perhaps I should give up on a lost cause, even if it is to promote the truth.
February 5, 2008, 7:08:28 AM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
Fox Fan: And I'm still waiting for O'Bully to take his cameras to that bridge in New Orleans that Keith Olbermann talked about and film the homeless vets living under the bridge. 
As for Fox News, they are the absolute worst when it comes to reporting on what is going on in Iraq. This week alone there have been scores of incidents, including the twin suicide bombing that KILLED 99 people in Baghdad, and I have yet to see any of the Fox News anchors talk about. 
BTW: I don't count a sentence on their website or a mention on the crawl at the bottom of the screen as covering the war. 
Why are so many vets ticked off at O'Reilly? Because he claimed there are very few homeless vets when he could have done a simple search job and known there are homeless veterans all over the U.S. 
Again, there are pages and pages of stories about homeless veterans on the google website.
Are all these stories lies? 
According to O'Reilly and you they are.
February 5, 2008, 8:57:54 AM EST – Like – Reply

tim zank
BC, are you deaf??
He NEVER said there were not homeless vets...the whole argument was and still is whether or not Edwards was truthful as to the REASON there are homeless vets. 
O'Reilly claims the majority of homeless vets are homeless because of addictions and mental illness, NOT THE ECONOMY, as Edwards claims.
It's not complicated, either you are obfuscating on purpose, or you are a just plain thick in the head.
Sheesh, get a clue
February 5, 2008, 10:30:37 AM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
And what is O'Reilly's source for the information he used saying homeless vets are homeless because of addiction and mental illness. 
I have provided plenty of websites from google and there are hundred more talking about the homeless veteran situation. 
When is O'Reilly going to come up with a source backing up his assertion?
Oh, that's right. O'Reilly doesn't deal in facts. He just shoots his big fat mouth off like Rush Limbaugh without an ounce of factual information to backup what he says. 
Why don't you write OlReilly at Fox News and ask for his sources. Here is his e-mail address: OReilly@foxnews.com
February 5, 2008, 10:54:57 AM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
Make that Oreilly@foxnews.com Write him and ask for his source that homeless vets are homeless ONLY because of mental conditions and substance abuse. I'm sure he will write you immediately with his souces.
February 5, 2008, 10:57:35 AM EST – Like – Reply

tim zank
I based my info on O'reilly's interview with the director of Veterans Affairs. (which I watched with my own eyes and ears) Obviously you missed that one.
Seriously, watch the show once in a while BEFORE you criticize and make sweeping statements, it'll make your opinions much more vaild if you use yourself, your eyes, and your ears to form your opinions instead of media matters etc.
February 5, 2008, 11:26:12 AM EST – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
> What is O'Reilly's source for the information he used saying homeless vets are homeless because of addiction and mental illness. 
Well he didn't say ALL were, he said that MOST were. And he gave his source:
February 5, 2008, 1:56:19 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
Johnny et al: Because I'm a veteran and because I have a blog devoted to telling the truth about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan which the mainstream media no longer covers, I belong to many veterans organizations. 
One of them is VetsVoice and I thought you might find their website interesting inasmuch as it is veterans talking about the topic that is the subject of this thread.
Here is the link: http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=514
I would also like to draw to your attention all the resources available on the topic that are listed on the right side of this website.
Now I'm off to report more on what is happening in Iraq which the mainstream press (not only Fox News) have put on the back burner. 
You can read my report on my blog
February 5, 2008, 3:24:11 PM EST – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
I understand your point. I was just replying to your question. You wanted to know O'Reilly source, and I supplied it.
February 5, 2008, 3:36:34 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
Johnny et al: And here is a source that spells out what Iraq war veterans are going through. Something Mr. O'Reilly apparently feels is not important.
This topic and about 15 others are covered on a post on my blog under the heading: QUAGMIRE OF CHAOS GRIPS IRAQ WAR ZONE.
February 5, 2008, 4:21:53 PM EST – Like – Reply

tim zank
I admire your passion BC, you are sorely misguided, but you are passionate. Have a nice life.
February 5, 2008, 5:37:18 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
Tim Zank: I've had a good life. I served my country as a United States Army Combat Engineer in the Korean War, and I used my GI bill to graduate from college. For 40 years I was one of the most well read and respected columnists for a syndicated chain of newspaers, and now I write a blog that exposes how Fox News and rest of the mainstream media have turned their back on the nearly 200,000 troops we have in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.
And BTW, my blog was picked up yesterday and run by the Wall Street Journal and today was on the CNN European edition of their website.
The hits and page views to my blog shown below after my name average over 300 a day. 
And you?
February 5, 2008, 5:53:13 PM EST – Like – Reply

tim zank
So what did you write? The gardening column for the Skokie Green Thumb?

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February 5, 2008, 6:12:43 PM EST – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
National Coalition for Homeless Veterans article on mental health and addiction service needs of homeless vets:
Substance Abuse & Mental Health Services Administration:
US Dept of Veterans Affairs "Stars and Stripes Network" dealing with mental health/substance abuse:
National Alliance on Mental Illness Veterans Resource Center:
National Library of Medicine study of the problem of women veterans' mental illness:
CNN report on vets returning with mental illness:
You want sources? That's a small sampling of government and private institutions and reports on veterans who need help with mental illness and substance abuse. Took 1 second to find and there are thousands more.
It's NOT the economy, stupid.
February 5, 2008, 6:17:18 PM EST – Like – Reply

tim zank
Sorry Johnny! I shouldn't have reduced myself to name calling. I appreciate the edit and I'll watch my comments!
Fox Fan, I don't think you and I are gonna change BC's mind, as it is closed tight.
February 5, 2008, 7:11:42 PM EST – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
I agree that Bill C won't change his mind, but he is certainly fun to engage with and he doesn't resort to the primitive forms of argumentation as you'd find many far-left or far-right commenters do.
Passionate, focused, uninhibited, intelligent, yes. Misguided and sometimes naive, also yes. I like Bill, he brings a spice to the site that makes it a tastier dish.
Thanks Bill, don't stop challenging us!
February 5, 2008, 8:28:22 PM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
Fox Fan, Tim Zank, Johnny $ et al:
So what we have here in this thread is BO all ticked off because John Edwards, who is no longer in the race for POTUS, claiming the Bush economy is one of the causes of the homeless vet problem and BO saying it is ONLY the vets are mentally ill and substance abusers. 
My own personal experience as a veterans and talking with many veterans is it is all of th above. 
It is the economy. It is mental illness and it is substance abuse. 
The bottom line: There are homeless veterans and they are not being taken care of by our government which is spending $9 BILLION a MONTH to try and shove democracydown the throat of a Muslim country---Iraq.
Something is terribly wrong with this picture.
February 5, 2008, 11:58:21 PM EST – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
"It is the economy. It is mental illness and it is substance abuse."
Finally, you agree with O'Reilly. He didn't say ONLY mental illness, he said that it was the primary contributing factor. His beef with Edwards (who, I agree, is 0 on the importance scale right now) was in the blame on Bush for the vets' situations. Edwards wanted to blame Bush, and when he got called out on it he fabricated an inflammatory statement about what O'Reilly said, thinking that O'Reilly was an easy target. Edwards got burned once again.
February 6, 2008, 7:08:20 AM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
I know what you right wingers are going to say evne before I post this comment. Media Matter is a left wing operation, but if you open the link and look through the data presented by both the Veterans Affairs Dept and HUD you can't use that argument. 
Anyway you cut it, Bill O'Reilly was using the homeless veterans as an attack on John Edwards but O'Reilly ignored documented information from the Veterans Affairs and HUD.
February 8, 2008, 3:04:17 AM EST – Like – Reply

im right 'cuz i'm a veteran. i care more. im a hero.

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February 8, 2008, 3:46:39 AM EST – Like – Reply

whiney son of a...
February 8, 2008, 3:47:15 AM EST – Like – Reply

liberating a beaten people. for we know democracies dont harbor terror, g oto war with other freedom lovers. and you have the nerve to call it shoving democracy down their throught? they ask us to stay and provide security, but to you its shoving it down their throught? your F'n dilusional. im real sorry we cant go back in time to the old days of saddam's rule.... just so you'd shut the F up.
February 8, 2008, 3:51:32 AM EST – Like – Reply

so is it the troops you care so much about or the muslims who are "choking" on democracy? phony. you just hate america.
February 8, 2008, 3:54:26 AM EST – Like – Reply

Bill Corcoran
Now that you got that off your chest Olbyhater is there anything you have to say about what the Dept. of Veterans Affairs and HUD have to say about the homeless veteran situation. Or are they un-American, too?
February 8, 2008, 3:34:19 PM EST – Like – Reply