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'I Don't Want to Peddle in Schoolyard Trash'

J$P Audio! O'Reilly and Greta argue about the Palin controversy: is it news or gossip, and did Carl Cameron "mess up"?


From The Radio Factor, Nov 10 2008 [audio only].




chris
it is gossip (according to the def. of gossip) and is also meant to attack and demean Gov. Palin even more- what is/was so bad about Gov. Palin? i never saw it and i actually see a furture in politics for her
November 10, 2008, 1:28:57 PM EST – Like – Reply


thebronze
Bill O'Reilley is a blow-hard and douche-bag extraordinaire. I quit watching FNC because of this crap.
November 10, 2008, 2:33:37 PM EST – Like – Reply


Kirk G
chris,
you are spot on.
November 10, 2008, 2:36:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


DL13
I will have to agree with Greta on this one. I like and respect Bill but the poison pen of anonymous sources is the best way the enemies of of the American Dream have to operate.
November 10, 2008, 2:38:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


Kevin
It pains me to say this: Greta is right.
 
Damnit, that hurt. Where is the backspace on this keyboard?
November 10, 2008, 2:42:26 PM EST – Like – Reply


Kevin
Still dig Carl Cameron though.
November 10, 2008, 2:43:47 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ben Dacatt
I agree with Bill ! And...love Carl Cameron for putting his job at FOX on the line to tell the story !!!  
As for the grating Greata....she sounds like she's BIG time in the tank for Palin just to get an interview.  
What a lame suck up.
 
Sincerely Ben DaCatt
St. Paul, MN
November 10, 2008, 2:52:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


Zoe'
Bill O'Reilly states to Greta: "...You're a lawyer and I'm a journalist....". Bill O'Reilly is NOT A JOURNALIST, he is a gossip-mongering a$ and he knows it! Bravo to Greta.........she can sort out the facts and the ethics as to (O'Reilly's and Cameron's) this pathetic reporting.  
 
GO GRETA GO!!!!!!!!!! Bill, you jerk, it is rumor and you are just trying to CYA. Your show has turned into a tabloid-trash, hit-job forum.
 
SARAH should shun the trashy O'Reilly. This man just cannot admit that he was off-the-wall ethically!!!!!!!
November 10, 2008, 3:00:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


Peacerose
I can't get the audio. Do I need a plug in?
November 10, 2008, 3:26:37 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
No, youtube's server was down for a bit. It's back up now. And I've added a link for straight mp3 audio listening as well.
November 10, 2008, 3:36:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


Maggie45
Carl Cameron reported all that stuff with glee in his voice and on his face. It was sickening. I've totally lost respect for him. It definitely IS gossip.
November 10, 2008, 3:46:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fred and Bruce Fan
Bill O Reilly and  
Carl Cameron are just indicative of what has been happening to  
Fox since the election. They are no longer fair and balanced.
November 10, 2008, 3:51:50 PM EST – Like – Reply


lib
Bill O'Reilly has no integrity by not allowing Palin to respond before the broadcast. And Carl Cameron looked like a middle schooler playing the gossip game. I lost all respect for him as a journalist. Greta runs circles around Bill when it comes to getting the stories straight. Thank you Greta.
November 10, 2008, 4:30:54 PM EST – Like – Reply


jay
Carl Cameron should be fired, and O'Reilly should be shunned. O'Reilly's snide suggestion that the campaign should have reviewed a map of the world with Palin is the final straw.
November 10, 2008, 4:43:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


lyons
Carl Cameron is a jerk~
November 10, 2008, 4:59:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


Sparkle
I was so furious at both Carl and Bill when this was aired. Bill doesn't get it. If this had been something of national importance - ok - go with it. But anonymous personal attacks on someone with the intent to belittle her, was definitely gossip. I really don't want to watch Bill anymore. This was just too much!
November 10, 2008, 6:09:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


Spider
Nice reporting Carl...You have confirmed my suspicions about Palin completely.
Fox are obviously taking sever heat from the Right Wingers over this excellent reporting...So Fox are now back peddling franticly....Things can't get any better than this...1st Obama gets elected...Then Fox falls out with the Right...I'm in heaven.
November 10, 2008, 6:35:11 PM EST – Like – Reply


Mike C.
I took BOR's segment with Greta as spirited debate, which they've engaged in many times before. And she'll be on "The Factor" 50 minutes from now.
Carl did not report with glee. He prefaced each sentence with "my sources tell me," "the source says," "what I'm being told is," etc. That's what you're supposed to do!
November 10, 2008, 7:14:21 PM EST – Like – Reply


BAW
The whole thing ultimately helps Palin, hurts McCain/moderates and made poor little Carl look like a loser in the traditional HS sense.
 
Thanks for posting this since I've never heard "The Radio Factor" wouldn't know where to find it.  
 
Have always had to take "The No Spin Zone" in small doses and never was particularly interested in Greta. I was pleasantly surprised by her election coverage. The palestra stories were great. I don't always agree with her but she seems fair.
November 10, 2008, 7:31:37 PM EST – Like – Reply


Anita
Greta has done a great job during this election. And if that wasn't gossip, there isn't any such thing.  
 
Hey, somebody told me he wears his underwear for a week at a time!! According to O'Reilly, that's not gossip. That's Watergate level reporting. Idiot.
November 10, 2008, 9:01:34 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Johnny,
 
Forgive me if you've already linked it somewhere, but there's a piece on HotAir blog that shows the whole Palin/Africa controversy to be a probable hoax.
November 10, 2008, 9:38:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Robert
O'Reilly is an ass and that is not gossip. Calling himself a journalist is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.
November 10, 2008, 10:49:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


sandra
IT IS GOSSIP!!! O'RIELLY SHOULD NOT HAVE GONE WITH IT, IT MADE HIM LOOK LIKE HE WAS ON TMZ, AND CARL CAMERON ALSO WAS SPINNING TRASH, BUT WHAT GOT ME WAS HOW CARL WAS BREATHLESS AND WAS SO EXCITED TO PASS THIS TRASH ON AND COULD NOT DO IT FAST ENOUGH. AND OF COURSE ORIELLY LOVED IT, AND HIS ARGUMENT WITH GRETA WAS A JOKE, HE WAS TRYING SO HARD TO CONVINCE ALL OF US THAT IT WAS NEWS, THIS IS NOT NEWS AND THE GALL OF HIM LAST WEEK WHEN HE SAID PALIN NEEDED TO COME ON HIS SHOW TO COUNTER IT, WAY TO GO SARAH GOING ON GRETA'S. TO BAD BILL!!!!! AND CARL SHOULD GO SOMEWHERE AND HIDE TILL 2012!!!!!!
November 11, 2008, 12:10:33 AM EST – Like – Reply


sandra
OH! AND TO BEN DECATT, YOU HATE FOX AND YOU LOVE THAT THEY TRASHED PALIN WITH NOTHING BUT UNNAMED SOURCE RUMORS. GRETA IS GREAT, AND SHE GOT THE BIG INTERVIEW AND IT WAS AWESOME, SHE BEAT CONCEITED BILL!!!! TO BAD BILL

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November 11, 2008, 12:14:17 AM EST – Like – Reply


Mike C.
Maybe the rumor about Gov. Palin thinking Africa was a country was just stolen from a "Whose Line is it Anyway?" episode where Drew Carey misspoke before a game of African Chant. He referred to Africa as a big country, when he meant to say "continent." Greg Proops, was quick to pounce on the misspeak. After a laugh, Greg says, "It's also a continent if you're a geographer." Drew realizes his mistake and the show goes on. The blunder was called back to many times for the rest of the episode and other episodes from the same taping.
November 11, 2008, 12:14:28 AM EST – Like – Reply


lee
Bill can deny it's gossip if it helps him sleep at night, but it sure ain't news.
 
If it was some anonymous woman claiming Bill groped her in an elevator, I wonder if he would call that gossip?
November 11, 2008, 1:34:19 AM EST – Like – Reply


Mike C.
By the way, even though the comments I disagree with are uncomfortable to read, I want to thank you, Johnny, for allowing all points of view to be heard here.
November 11, 2008, 2:05:29 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Has Cameron given any information at all about his source?
 
Could he verify it was someone in the McCain camp who had personally worked with Palin?
 
If this is the case, then the info Cameron reported IS more than gossip.  
 
Though the media didn't go after relatively inexperienced Obama (certainly not in the gleeful and malevolent way they did Palin), I still have to disagree with Greta. Finding weak spots IS the media's job (for both pols).
 
It's not only their job (within reason), the results did have the potential to turn into a Dan Quayle narrative for Palin. The McCain Campaign knew this when they picked an unknown like Palin.  
 
If Cameron had a top-notch source, he was right to report their statements.
November 11, 2008, 10:11:03 AM EST – Like – Reply


Dan
IT IS GOSSIP FROM A PHJONY INDIVIDUAL - IT WAS A HOAX!! O'REILLY AND CARL SHOULD APOLOGIZE, JEEZ.  
 
IT WAS A RUMOR, THE PERSON WHO DID IT IS A DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVE PLAYING A PHONY REPUBLICAN.
November 11, 2008, 10:40:25 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Dan,
 
Was the guy you're talking about Cameron's source?
November 11, 2008, 11:12:00 AM EST – Like – Reply


Ben Dacatt
All of you die hard Palin lovers have
your heads in the sand....or someplace worse !
God forbid Carl Cameron reports the
news. If you can't handle it...just watch Greta . She's such an unbiased genius ...NOT !
Oh...kudos to Bill O' for daring to
go against this crazy pro Palin agenda.
To borrow a phrase from Forest Gump...she's not a smart woman !
November 12, 2008, 1:51:25 PM EST – Like – Reply