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Wednesday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [6:25 pm]:

Where's Anderson?

Audio: Hillary-O'Reilly sneak preview. Is it "empathy"?

Tuesday's numbers. April ranker.

Candy Crowley honored.

Estrich: it's judgment?

Hotline quotes.

Arianna Huffington banned?

Most influential: 30-21.

Another Maddow-Scarborough flare-up.

Marc Lamont Hill joins Fox.

Q&A: Wolf Blitzer (via/TVN).

Gretchen's gaffes.

Factor fury: TPM, FiredogLake.

Roland Martin abandons Wright. Mrs O on 360.


Rick in the ring.

Government OK's fair-and-balanced ad.

Outrage du jour.

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.

"Taking on Fox News" is the left's gauntlet for candidates proving themselves to be Commander-in-Chief material. :D
April 30, 2008, 7:33:57 AM EDT – Like – Reply

On The Mark
I missed the Lincoln-Douglas debate discussion on F&F on Sunday, but I saw the lead up (an intern being asked to get footage of the debates) and the graphic the so-terribly-dense host had put up, side-by-sides of Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass (in place of Stephen A. Douglas). I haven't laughed so hard since the last time I saw the "Vitameatavegamin" episode. Surely, even the F&F weekend folks aren't this vacuous? It had to be a joke? Right?
April 30, 2008, 7:56:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply

You'd think Olberskunk would take a more charitable approach considering that MSNBC once put up a picture of Osama Bin Laden as Chris Matthews was discussing Barack Obama and that Countdown threw up a picture of former Democratic senator Max Clelland (Georgia) as Olbermann was excoriating talk radio's Neal Boortz (another Georgian)...  
MSNBC blamed it on "computer error"... okey dokey... :D
April 30, 2008, 9:13:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply

There's a strong possibility that Clinton may use her time with O'Reilly to get off a few humorous zingers at him. This wouldn't affect moderates badly and would prove to the leftists (the only people unaware of this fact) that she has bigger cojones than Obama in a way that is most meaningful to them.
Afterwards you'll hear glasses of Zima being clinked in every fern bar in America. :D
April 30, 2008, 9:23:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply

On The Mark
You'd think Olberskunk would take a more charitable approach ....
I wouldn't know. I saw this on Abrams and again on Scarborough.
April 30, 2008, 9:26:15 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Without FNC, MSNBC would likely have to run that SDI rainbow screen full time.
April 30, 2008, 9:30:21 AM EDT – Like – Reply

On The Mark
Thanks, again, for the TELEGRAPH link to most influential pundits, Johnny. I really do enjoy the descriptions, and find them to be largely accurate. It would be most interesting to revisit this list after the dust from November's elections settles, or the scum rises as the case may be.
Buchanan, with whom I seldom agree but who I always find interesting, provocative and enjoyable, seems to be going a bit nuts, not politically, but temperamentally. You have to wonder if he and Novak aren't soon destined for one of those upscale assisted living centers where they will bore all the men and terrorize all the women.
Matalin and Carville are going to find it a challenge to redefine their relevance and importance. Matalin has been struggling with that for some time now. I suppose its just part of the general, pervasive Bush/Cheney fatigue, but even an affable character like Andrew Card, on Scarborough this morning, gets a "Why?" from me. Relevance has just passed. Already. And with Matalin's sour, sarcastic, unpleasant demeanor, why do we want to be exposed to her.
A more important question: If Clinton goes, so goes Carville? Huge parts of the party would be pleased to seem him consigned to local talk shows, hawking some mundane book to the good people of Cedar Rapids. A shame, really, because he is a brilliant analyst once the Clinton crud is cut away. Does that mean he actually grows to some new fullness if that happens? Perhaps.
Somewhat related to it is the Morris character. Once it ceases to be fun or important to have the anti-Clinton, is he relegated to a rag column? That may be distinctly possible in that, in my experience, he is really repulsive to so many women. I'm not sure I understood that until my wife told me it is the same reaction so many men have to O'Reilly, this inchoate aura of grossness.
The real rising star for me is Noonan. She is so grounded in thought even if a bit Sarah Bernhardtesque in delivery sometimes. I actually find that enjoyable and at times amusing. Again, I often disagree with Noonan, but she seems to be developing a voice which is strong and compelling, and it is the voice of many people. I expect her to prosper.
April 30, 2008, 10:08:20 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
Welcome aboard, Dr. Hill. Take that, Fox haters.
If FNC HD won't be added to DirecTV because they're running out of room for new channels, then I guess I shouldn't be rushing to get it for my room after all.
April 30, 2008, 2:54:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
I'm feeling about Cablevision now. I explain in my latest blog posting:
April 30, 2008, 3:56:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Mike Chimeri
"I'm feeling *better* about Cablevision." Sorry about that.
April 30, 2008, 3:57:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Special Fox Report tonight...6-8pm to highlight BOR's interview with Clinton
April 30, 2008, 4:02:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
Those are central times of course, starts 7pm in the East. O'Reilly will be on The Fox Report to give the behind-the-scenes on The Interview.
April 30, 2008, 4:45:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
Nice blog entry, Mike. I liked the concert pix too.
April 30, 2008, 4:46:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply

On The Mark
I'm committed to watching the Clinton-O'Reilly interview, although I expect it will be much ado about nothing. Two accomplished blow-hards together usually make a gentle breeze. If Confucius and Franklin didn't say that, they probably should have. The first time Clinton starts that high-pitched cackle, however, I'm going to a Law & Order rerun. I'm already loading up on Pepcid to make it through O'Reilly, and I don't want to chase it with Excederin Migraine while dobbing Headon all over my forehead and downing Merlot to cut the Pepto-Bismol taste. I'd have a Gretchen moment tomorrow morning.
April 30, 2008, 4:50:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
I take all of my television watching with just a grain of salt.
If you need Pepcid, Excederin, Headon (applied directly to the forehead!), merlot, and Pepto-Bismol just to get through O'Reilly you might have a problem...
April 30, 2008, 5:57:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply

I dont understand the concept of feeling sorry for Obama.
It was Obama who embraced Liberation Theology
It was Obama who found in Rev Wright the Father Figure he was looking for
It was Obama who decided to run for President
It was Obama who decided to craft a false public persona that was in direct contradiction to his past and all his associates.
It was Obama who tried all he could to do to deflect attention away from this, but ultimately discovered there was no way to reconcile his public lies.
I have contempt for him not sympathy.
April 30, 2008, 6:13:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
I have neither contempt nor sympathy for Obama. Now, if he was elected President my opinion might change based on how he governs. As it is, I nothing Obama.
April 30, 2008, 6:18:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply

You've read the links haven't you, Fox Fan?
Obama or Clinton one-upping Chris Wallace or Bill O'Reilly is the equivalent of the Gettyburg's Address to Democrats.
I hardly think a "grain of salt" will do it.  
A syringe of thorazine, maybe.
April 30, 2008, 6:20:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
That's what they hope it would equal. More likely, Clinton would come off as scripted, snyde, or otherwise robotic and unlikable.  
Hardly comparable to Gettysburg.
April 30, 2008, 6:29:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply

On The Mark
Good for you, Fox Fan.
There was a time in our nation when we respected presidents and candidates while disagreeing with them, a time when we respected each other while disagreeing with one another. And, we had a much better concept of those things which unite us as Americans. There are so many more points of agreement and intersection than there are points of bitter confrontation. We are all responsible for allowing this to happen, but we certainly have had a great deal of encouragement from the likes of Lee Atwater, Paul Begala, James Carville and Newt Gingrich and the two Bush's and Clintons who gave us this "Win at all cost. Don't go back for the wounded and slain." mentality. For me the great promise of Obama was a chance to find, to rediscover that great middle, where men like Dirksen, Ford, Johnson and Ribicoff could come together. I think he's been too effectively destroyed to make that happen. I certainly don't see Clinton or McCain making that happen.
April 30, 2008, 6:35:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Scripted, snide, and robotic, huh?
Sounds like O'Reilly may bring out the pussycat in her...
April 30, 2008, 6:36:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply

I hope this Wright clown sticks to Obama like glue.
I think that he would be Jimmy Carter squared. He seems to have all of Carter's faults and even less of Carter's pluses and absolutely no administrative governing experience.  
I started out with the impression that he was an honorable guy, far too liberal and inexperienced for my taste, but a cut above the average politician. My opinion has done a U turn about him and I find the prospect of a President Obama a pretty scary thought now.
I realized why I find Wright so personally hard to watch and listen to, except for his play date with Moyers.
He doesn't preach a sermon or give a speech. He makes passionate arrogant, smug, self satisfied. condescending love to himself, very much as KO does.
April 30, 2008, 6:38:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
You know O'Reilly- he loves the ladies! lol
Unfortunately for all, OTM, any one of the three candidates will come out of this battered and bruised- and hated by 50% of the country.  
Grammie, Wright reminds me a lot of the local mayor of Detroit by the exact traits you described.
April 30, 2008, 6:40:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply

He makes passionate arrogant, smug, self satisfied. condescending love to himself, very much as KO does.
Grammie | 04.30.08 - 6:43 pm  
Your timing is perfect, Grammie
April 30, 2008, 6:40:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
Socialist agenda and delusions of forthcoming supreme power aside, Hillary's presentation on O'Reilly was almost unbarfable.
April 30, 2008, 9:16:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply

johnny dollar
I just put up tonight's OlbyWatch recap. I couldn't believe my ears. After getting in trouble with Rachel Sklar at HuffPo for some insensitive phrasing about a woman (Hillary), tonight Olby turned it up to '11'. I'm not exactly a Paula Abdul fan, but I draw the line at Olbermann comparing her to a horse!
April 30, 2008, 9:16:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply

I'd compare Paula Abdul to a medicated 13 year old Yorkshire terrier.
On the otherhand, put some longer ears on Olbermann's head and people would start trying to pin a tail on him.
April 30, 2008, 9:44:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
Horses have similar command-learning capabilities to rats. I'm starting to recognize the similarities...
April 30, 2008, 9:47:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply

On the Mark
Tonight's Clinton - O'Reilly gabfest: ho-hum. For the two of THEM, not so bad.
April 30, 2008, 9:52:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply

Fox Fan
I enojyed the sparring. I was surprised she had the (in tonight's Olbyterms) 'testicles' to engage O'Reilly. Color and gender be damned, she has a bigger d*** than Obama.
April 30, 2008, 10:02:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply

No 5 paragraph 'review,' philby? No comparison to the obama/Wallace interview or the wright/moyer lovefest?
April 30, 2008, 11:18:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply

olbysucks said, "wright/moyer lovefest"
So true and "on the mark!" I especially liked the B+W of LBJ post-op with Moyers pointing out his black framed glasses just behind a young Wright performing his corpsman duties....What journalistic heft! Did Billo show any pictures of him behind Hill making funny faces?
May 1, 2008, 9:22:50 AM EDT – Like – Reply

Welcome, Cee!
You'll find that Johnny has made here the cyberworld equivalent of "Cheers".
May 1, 2008, 7:11:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply