12/24/09 11:16 PM

Monday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

Q&A: Alexis Glick.

MSNBC's graphics upgrade.

Greta boasts.

Behind the scenes: Gaza.

Reporters become the story.

Plum job opening.

Q&A: Jon Klein: just more BS?

Mr Cotter to FBN; FBN off Sirius; Eisner axed.

2008: hot and not.

The Decider reviewed: analysis.

Thursday's numbers. Friday's numbers.

(MS)NBC abandoning Iraq?

CNN at its unprincipled worst (via The Cable Game)?

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




Mike C.
One thing I picked up from Hot and Not: Spud hates BOR. 1) He branded him a conservative. 2) He "picks fights" with people at GE and NBC. Real nice.
December 29, 2008, 1:19:41 AM EST – Like – Reply


Kirk G
As much as I hate to say it INC may have a point about Hannity, I hope it doesn't turn into a left bashing session. That is the last thing that the GOP and FOX needs now. I still think the left right thing is better for the network and better viewing. Don't get me wrong I like Hannity but he does some time go overboard.
December 29, 2008, 12:29:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


Mike C.
I didn't like the idea, either. It had to be "Hannity & [somebody]," but they went the solo route. And "yeah, but there'll be a liberal and 'wild card'" is not an excuse.
December 29, 2008, 2:08:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


sharm
Problem with "CNN at its unprincipled worst" link.
December 29, 2008, 2:30:55 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
oops sorry; fixed!
December 29, 2008, 2:44:32 PM EST – Like – Reply


ChippyMinton
Chippy wipes his eyes....shakes his head....And shouts bollocks!. Damn it all....I'm finding myself agreeing with Mike C and Kirk G  
 
Chippy scampers off to find anti-Fox material to purge this dreadful manifestation.
December 29, 2008, 4:31:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


ChippyMinton
1) He branded him a conservative.
Mike C. | Homepage | 12.29.08 - 1:24 am |
 
Mike...BOR is a Conservative....How else could you describe his views...And please don't tell me he's Independent. There is absolutely NO chance BOR will ever swing Democratic.
December 29, 2008, 4:49:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
My post from this past weekend:
 
**************************
told you all last night...I had spanked the monkey yesterday....So errors were inevitable....
ChippyMinton | 12.27.08 - 5:44 pm | #  
 
Uh Chippy, perhaps you simply meant to say that you had too much to drink (which I would probably do too if I looked in the mirror and saw Haggis' face).
 
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ sp...pank_the_monkey
Ashley | 12.27.08 - 6:40 pm | #  
 
*************************
 
Haggis - you accused me of lying in this post. I do not believe I lied in any fashion. Would you please quote this alleged lie?
December 29, 2008, 5:07:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


cee
Missing from the COUNTDOWN job responsibilities, requirements and qualifications (oooo, there is just so much material here).....
 
Insure a ready supply of sunless tan mousse
 
The ability to converse in parseltongue
a plus
 
"Do I look fat in this?" will require an Academy Award winning, reasurring, ego grooming whopper......daily......
 
...scratch that.....hourly
 
Experience and acceptance of lifting material from the internet then using it without citation
 
Know how to spell:
 
RESIGN!......
 
Czechoslovakia......
 
The Republic of Czechoslovakia......
 
Obama......
 
Osama.......
 
O'Reilly (as well as the multitude of clever permutations/perversions of this Irish Gaelic name of millions around the world developed over the years at COUNTDOWN)......
 
Palin.....
 
Joe The Plumber.....
 
RESIGN!
 
Ready jokes for cranky moods (daily......srcatch that...hourly) will be helpful. A bonus for some subjects including:
 
falafel....
 
choking on pretzels.....
 
misogyny towards Paris Hilton, Sarah Palin and any of her female children/adult relatives/friends, Geraldine Ferraro, and Elizabeth Dole....
 
Nazi references directed only towards preapproved targets.
December 29, 2008, 5:58:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
As someone who watches BOR every day (DVR scheduled if I'm not home), I can say with certainty that he's hammered conservatives and liberals alike. He is rougher on liberals but it's with good reason.  
 
I like the idea of Hannity solo. I like Hannity's America but always thought it needed more debate. Hannity solo should cover the niche nicely. Sorry to break up the agreeable lovefest Chippy, Kirk, and Mike!
December 29, 2008, 6:02:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


ChippyMinton
Would you please quote this alleged lie?
Ashley | 12.29.08 - 5:12 pm |
 
I'll try and contact Haggis and ask his opinion on this matter....But this might take a week or two....So Me, CHIPPY will answer in the meantime.
 
It's obvious my good man....Even a bat with half its faculties disabled could find its way to this lie.
 
You were blatantly lying about the meaning of "spanked the monkey"...You changed the phrase to..."spank the monkey"...to suit your own agenda.
December 29, 2008, 6:09:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Great post, Cee!  
December 29, 2008, 6:24:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


ChippyMinton
"Experience and acceptance of lifting material from the internet then using it without citation"
cee | 12.29.08 - 6:03 pm |
 
That really shouldn't be a problem....The Friends have been doing this for years....Madrasah springs to mind.
 
I like Hannity's America
Fox Fan | 12.29.08 - 6:07 pm | #  
 
FF...Stand back and think for a minute...The entertainment industry would be decimated....apart from the Jonas Brothers and their like. Probably worse...All Tupperware users would be shot on sight...I think you'll agree...Hannity's America is appearing a might tarnished.
December 29, 2008, 6:43:27 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
You were blatantly lying about the meaning of "spanked the monkey"...You changed the phrase to..."spank the monkey"...to suit your own agenda.
ChippyMinton | 12.29.08 - 6:14 pm | #
 
It high time you did come clean about this Ashley, and admit your agenda to highlight and mock Chippy as being unfamiliar with American euphemisms, rather than simply going with the truth of what he is:  
 
A Carmen Kringle who will pathetically defend a mistake by claiming he did it deliberately and then within seconds contradict himself by blaming his stupidity on 'Christmas Cheer'...
December 29, 2008, 6:46:55 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"The Friends have been doing this for years....Madrasah springs to mind."
 
Are you saying the Friends did not cite their sources for the Madrasah story? Can you back that up?
December 29, 2008, 6:52:58 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Hey Chippy - did you know that Haggis frequently used ... between sentences, just like you?
 
Again, what was my lie.  
 
You are a liar. I have provided specific quotes made by you that prove you are a liar.  
 
Sorry to hurt your feelings, but "Spanked the monkey" has several definitions. At least I had the decency to acknowledge your definition.  
 
But let me ask you, if someone did "spank the monkey" as I and other posters hear obviously defined it, how would someone write that in the past tense? C'mon Chippy, try to conjugate a verb.
 
You have accused me of lying, yet you cannot back that claim up. I see two possible reasons for that:
 
1 - you are lying
 
2 - you are incompetent
 
Now, provide a direct quote of what I said was a lie. If you do not, I take that as an acknowlegement of your incompetence.
December 29, 2008, 6:59:51 PM EST – Like – Reply


ChippyMinton
johnny dollar | Homepage | 12.29.08 - 6:57 pm |
 
I'm not saying that....They simply spat out an uncorroborated story...from a Right Wing blog....as fact. Thankfully CNN were there to clear the mess up.
December 29, 2008, 7:04:54 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
It high time you did come clean about this Ashley, and admit your agenda to highlight and mock Chippy as being unfamiliar with American euphemisms, rather than simply going with the truth of what he is:  
 
Cecelia | 12.29.08 - 6:51 pm | #  
 
I frankly never heard the term used in any other fashion before, that's why in my original post I told Haggis/Chippy that perhaps he meant to say that he had too much to drink. I provided the link to inform him of the meaning of the term (which it now turns out is one meaning of the term). Later, when I saw that it had a different meaning in the UK, I acknowledged that other meaning.
 
But you are right, focus on what he really is. He is a liar. He is Haggis. I went back in the archives and re-read some of Haggis's posts. Haggis was known to smear and run without backing up his claims, just like the new incarnation of chippy.
December 29, 2008, 7:07:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"I'm not saying that...."
 
Really? Because that's exactly what you did say.
 
"They simply spat out an uncorroborated story...from a Right Wing blog"
 
And now compounded it with another falsehood. You really are getting on my last nerve, Haggie.
December 29, 2008, 7:10:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


Mike C.
>You really are getting on my last nerve, Haggie.<
I hope that means the end of him here.
Re: Hannity: I've said this before, but if Sean had a better voice, didn't say "and welcome [back] to... thank you fa bein' with us, I'm Sean Hannity" every damn second, rattle off quotes like an annoying attorney...if all that, I'd like him. Unfortunately, he has all those quirks and more.
December 29, 2008, 7:30:23 PM EST – Like – Reply


ChippyMinton
johnny dollar | Homepage | 12.29.08 - 7:15 pm |
 
How do I get myself into these situations. The Friends named the Right wing blog....But they didn't fact check the story before they reported it....Hence egg on face.  
 
Ashley...I'd like to apologise for not having such a fantastical degree as your good self....No doubt you'll find errors in that.  
 
I've now read your follow up post on the "spank[ed] the monkey" saga....Thank you for pointing out your error and rectifying it....I also accept it has a different meaning in the U.S....So I think we can now close this matter.
December 29, 2008, 7:37:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Ashley,  
 
Chippy's a troll who receives input from a host of other FNC grudgers.
December 29, 2008, 7:38:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
You're still not telling the truth. There was no right-wing blog source. And I've had enough of your calling people liars because you don't know (or pretend not to know) the common meaning of phrases. Thin ice, getting thinner all the time.
December 29, 2008, 7:39:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Our friend Chippy has lied repeatedly, so many, we've probably forgotten many of them.
 
Regarding his constant denials of being Haggis (after changing his tune from even knowing what haggis was!
 
Check out these two posts.
 
First from Haggis
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/johnnydollar/fsx241073231/#256223
 
"It's only fair that you admit I was spot on with my analysis. "
 
Second from Chippy
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/johnnydollar/fpu250666162/#260116
 
"Once again my analysis was spot on over the H&C situation "
 
In a way, I can understand this. If I was Haggis, I would DENY DENY DENY. Afterall, who wants to admit they are Haggis?
December 29, 2008, 7:56:59 PM EST – Like – Reply


ChippyMinton
johnny dollar | Homepage | 12.29.08 - 7:44 pm  
 
I can take a hint....Chippy retreats to the edge....
 
It was a magazine not a blog....you are correct...The old memory is beginning to fail....But I still say...The Friends should've checked the story before running with it....I am correct there.
December 29, 2008, 7:58:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Oh Haggis - you may want to visit this UK website. Do a search of the term as you say it. Check out a specific post dated "Thu, 09 October 2008 15:19:33" by "Boostar".
 
http://www.menshealth.co.uk
December 29, 2008, 8:09:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
The Friends should've checked the story before running with it....I am correct there.
ChippyMinton | 12.29.08 - 8:03 pm | #  
 
Perhaps you ought to have a chat with Keith "Czechoslovakia" Olbermann and convince him that he ought to use this tactic, at least once in his life.
December 29, 2008, 8:13:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Haggis, what on earth are you talking about Tupperware and Jonas Brothers re: Hannity's America? I'm a Tupperware user and I promise you that if someone tried to shoot me on sight for it, they would come out worse for the wear (trusty .380 or 9mm in my bag/pocket).
 
Are you spanking the monkey again?
December 29, 2008, 8:13:08 PM EST – Like – Reply


ChippyMinton
Ashley...I've come to the conclusion that your a fake Fox lover...No one can love a news channel that much....Come on spill the beans.
HaggisFarmer | 08.22.08 - 6:15 pm | #
 
Seems Haggis got your measure early on...I'll have to read more of his posts.
 
So two quotes is your evidence for me being Haggis....That sort of evidence wouldn't last 10 seconds on Kelly's court....And you know it.
December 29, 2008, 8:26:54 PM EST – Like – Reply


ChippyMinton
Are you spanking the monkey again?
Fox Fan | 12.29.08 - 8:18 pm |
 
Johnny will be getting all sorts turning up....With all this talk of spanking the monkey...They'll be disappointed...to put it mildly.   
 
FF....I admit I've been partaking,,,,I just can't help it....You know what it's like when the kitchen sink just gets a hold of you.
December 29, 2008, 8:49:32 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
ChippyMinton | 12.29.08 - 8:31 pm | #
 
Al, I chatted with you for a month or two via email during the presidential runup.  
 
The conversational mannerisms from post to post define Haggis and Chippy, and they match your 1 on 1 convos as well.  
 
There really is no reason to try to conceal your identity, people will judge what you write the same if you posit the same notions regardless of the moniker you use.  
 
I liked Al that I chatted with, Haggis and Chippy are OK in my book as well (I won't speak for anyone else here lol). Be honest with us and with yourself and other people might see the good Haggis I've seen.
 
Good haggis...did I just type that?
December 29, 2008, 8:56:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


ChippyMinton
(trusty .380 or 9mm in my bag/pocket).
Fox Fan | 12.29.08 - 8:18 pm |
 
***JOKE ALERT***
 
FF....Are you telling us you've got a Kilmeade man-bag?
December 29, 2008, 9:04:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Man-bag? It carries a laptop and tools. Hardly a murse.
December 29, 2008, 9:29:26 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Ashley...I've come to the conclusion that your a fake Fox lover...No one can love a news channel that much....Come on spill the beans.
HaggisFarmer | 08.22.08 - 6:15 pm | #
 
Seems Haggis got your measure early on...I'll have to read more of his posts.
 
So two quotes is your evidence for me being Haggis....That sort of evidence wouldn't last 10 seconds on Kelly's court....And you know it.
ChippyMinton | 12.29.08 - 8:31 pm | #  
 
Haggis/PurpleSmoker/HappySmoker/
Alabama Dem/nostrADamus/whatever you are calling yourself today - if you are accusing me of being a "fake fox lover", provide your proof. By the way, you (or you as Haggis), accusing anyone of being "fake" is simply hysterical.
 
Regarding "Kelly's Court", I don't know what that is, but I didn't make that post for that court. I made it for the court of public opinion, the public being the posters here. In that court, not so much.
 
Perhaps J$ could get a poll going on the matter, "Do you believe that Haggis is Chippy?" with both you and me NOT taking it.
 
I would suggest that you take that last step and go the distance; you've admitted to a long list of your lies, now just go one step further Haggy and stop playing your games.
 
I'll have to read more of his posts.  
 
As you do that, make note how his posts are filled with false unsubstantiated smears...just like yours. (I hope you liked the ...)
December 29, 2008, 9:39:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Chippy - I hope when you scanned your posts written under your Haggis pseudonym, you happened to catch this exchange I had with you.
 
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/johnnydollar/fsx241073231/#256252
December 29, 2008, 9:49:09 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
"Chris Matthews who "decided" .... that interviewing his daughter and not identifying her as such was kosher."
 
I missed that completely. Anyone know about it?
 
Merry Xmas, Happy Hanucah(?) and Happy New Year to all!
 
Johnny, great thanks for all the great links to past eras. I thouroughly enjoyed it all.
December 31, 2008, 7:38:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Happy New Year, Grammie!
 
I've missed both you and Sharon!
December 31, 2008, 8:59:36 PM EST – Like – Reply