3/3/09 1:21 PM

Wednesday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

Chris Matthews not running for Senate.

Late Edition out, State of the Union in.

Saturday specials: Sinise and scandal.

Tucker's last week at MSNBC.

Fallacious financial forecasts.

Reena Ninan's Gaza diary.

Monday's numbers. Tuesday's numbers.

Video: Chris Matthews gushes over Chuck Todd.

Tabloid tv revival?

Hotline after dark.

Coop's complications.

Gupta's Raelian report.

Inauguration plans.


Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




Fox Fan
Johnny, that Red Eye cleavage still shot is almost as good as Liz Clayman's pic!  
 
Put up both in one day and I'll send you a letter in an envelope made of the shattered hopes and dreams of a thousand orphans.
January 7, 2009, 7:03:53 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I"m going to have to start DVRing Red Eye!
 
Johnny, I really WANT to like Nancy Grace.  
 
I don't like people who water down the definition of ethical behavior (even when having my own lapses) and Grace never does.
 
That's why I just adore Megyn Kelly and admire Greta.  
 
Nancy though, is just too Geraldo-like at making herself the story.
January 7, 2009, 10:44:43 AM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Nancy though, is just too Geraldo-like at making herself the story.
Cecelia | 01.07.09 - 10:49 am |
 
What a hoot....That's exactly what Bill does every night....But will you hold him to the same standard...Or will you back peddle?
January 7, 2009, 11:09:36 AM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
I'm not a fan of Grace either. She has a perpetual scowl similar to Michelle Obama's.
 
CC, if you watch Red Eye you'll get my orphan comment.
January 7, 2009, 11:09:51 AM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
What a hoot....That's exactly what Bill does every night....But will you hold him to the same standard...Or will you back peddle?
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 11:14 am | #  
 
Well then Haggy, if that is "exactly what Bill does every night", then tell us exactly how he made himself the story last night? If you can't think of anything from last night, please tell us how he made himself the story on Monday night?
 
Will you provide specific examples, will you avoid providing facts to back up your statement, or will you back peddle?
January 7, 2009, 11:36:53 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
What a hoot....That's exactly what Bill does every night....But will you hold him to the same standard...Or will you back peddle?
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 11:14 am | #  
 
hmmm...News Hounds must give classes in this sort of faulty thinking.
 
Choices are:
 
Either agree with Haggis
 
Or
 
Back peddle...
January 7, 2009, 11:46:20 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I'm not a fan of Grace either. She has a perpetual scowl similar to Michelle Obama's.
 
CC, if you watch Red Eye you'll get my orphan comment.
Fox Fan | 01.07.09 - 11:14 am | #  
 
I don't agree, FF, that Mrs. Obama constantly scowls, but yeah, Grace is scary.
January 7, 2009, 11:48:15 AM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
She has a perpetual scowl similar to Michelle Obama's.
Fox Fan | 01.07.09 - 11:14 am | #  
 
FF...Looks like you've only been watching Fox footage of Mrs Obama....But let me tell you....She has a wonderful smile....Just watch for it the next time her husband is blessing us with more of his wise words.
January 7, 2009, 11:50:31 AM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Ashley | 01.07.09 - 11:41 am |
 
Come on your not trying to defend this charge. Bill injects himself into the story at every opportunity....When talking to someone about the shoe throwing incident in Iraq...Bill jumped in spouting...I'd have decked the guy if I was there....Hence Bill making himself the story.
January 7, 2009, 11:58:49 AM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Cecelia | 01.07.09 - 11:51 am |
 
Just answer my question please....Are you going to hold Bill to the same standard?....No need to wander onto the freshly cut grass.
January 7, 2009, 12:02:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
....But let me tell you....She has a wonderful smile....Just watch for it the next time her husband is blessing us with more of his wise words.
 
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 11:55 am | #  
 
Well, hallalujah, brother! You're a True Disciple at last!...
January 7, 2009, 12:03:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Your analysis is always so spot-on Haggie. Why just Monday you opined on the twitter hacking:
 
"It will give Bill a segment on tonight's show on the evil left."
 
How'd that work out for you?
January 7, 2009, 12:03:57 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Just answer my question please....Are you going to hold Bill to the same standard?....No need to wander onto the freshly cut grass.
 
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 12:07 pm | #  
 
Most assuredly, Haggis, I hold Bill to the same standard.
 
If he ever starts doing that, I'll criticize him too.
January 7, 2009, 12:06:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.07.09 - 12:08 pm |
 
I missed it Monday....But I'm sure he attacked the "evil" Left on something....Much like he did last night.
January 7, 2009, 12:11:04 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Cecelia | 01.07.09 - 12:11 pm |
 
But he does do it....As I pointed out in my 12:03 pm post....So please criticise away.
January 7, 2009, 12:15:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Come on your not trying to defend this charge. Bill injects himself into the story at every opportunity....When talking to someone about the shoe throwing incident in Iraq...Bill jumped in spouting...I'd have decked the guy if I was there....Hence Bill making himself the story.
 
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 12:03 pm | #  
 
No, that's voicing your feelings on what happened to someone else.
 
O'Reilly may have made himself part of the story at one time or another, it would be hard to have an opinion program on every night and not commit that act at least once.
 
However, Grace with her relentless allusions to her career past and her traumatic personal past, during every issue, does it relentlessly.  
 
Geraldo's even worse with his gaffes (drawing maps in the sand during a war), mishaps (falling on his butt during a hurricane story) and pronouncements (that he defended Clinton because he (Geraldo) was a bigger womanizer than Clinton is)... become another story altogether.
January 7, 2009, 12:15:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 12:03 pm | #  
 
In my humble opinion, that is the lamest analysis I've seen in quite a long time. But I do appreciate it as it's from last month and you couldn't think of anything from the last two nights despite your original claim.  
 
However, if that is your standard of making oneself the story, then we can only wonder if you would hold K"C"O to the same standard.
January 7, 2009, 12:26:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
"However, Grace with her relentless allusions to her career past and her traumatic personal past, during every issue, does it relentlessly."
 
I'm sure she'll keep doing it...It's been a ratings bonanza...Pushing Bill soundly into 2nd spot (demo)  
 
"falling on his butt during a hurricane story"
 
Not being a might harsh there?....Have you got go go gadget stabilisers attached?
January 7, 2009, 12:34:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


Aeris Gainsborough
I was not too happy, on the January 6, 2008 O'Reilly TV show. O'Reilly said to Kelly, paraphrasing:
 
Why not deny (Senator) Al Franken's seat? He is NOT QUALIFIED to be a Senator.
 
O'Reilly did say something else on why Al Franken should not be Senator.
 
Then, when Wiehl and Kelly gave O'Reilly a "Reality Check", O'Reilly did a "pfft" and said, paraphrasing:
 
Depressing.
 
I think O'Reilly is losing it with this Senator Al Franken thing, and I will no longer watch O'Reilly anymore, because O'Reilly has to respect the people of Minnesota.
 
I will also no longer watch one second of Fox News, because of the lies on the Senator Al Franken issue, being put out by Fox News contributors, or Right-Wing guests (i.e. Ann Coulter and Dick Morris [which Sean Hannity agreed with] saying that Senator Al Franken stole the election, which is a lie).
January 7, 2009, 12:42:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
In my humble opinion, that is the lamest analysis I've seen in quite a long time.
Ashley | 01.07.09 - 12:31 pm |
 
That's your humble opinion...But it made my point masterfully....Bill using pure injection....to simply puff his ego.
January 7, 2009, 1:00:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Made your point "masterfully"?
 
Hardly.
 
Your point was that he did it every night, and you couldn't come up with one example for the past two nights. In fact, since BOR is on at least 5 nights a week for at least 44 weeks, that's at least 200 shows for 2008. One example absolutely does not even come close to proving he does it 10% of the time.
January 7, 2009, 1:09:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
That's your humble opinion...But it made my point masterfully....Bill using pure injection....to simply puff his ego.
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 1:05 pm | #  
 
Perhaps you're talking to the wrong audience then, Haggis.
 
The one doesn't think it's mere grandstanding bravado for a pundit to react strongly against someone trying to injure the President of the United States.
 
You'll have to save that notion for News Hounds.
January 7, 2009, 1:39:42 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
I'm sure she'll keep doing it...It's been a ratings bonanza...Pushing Bill soundly into 2nd spot (demo)  
 
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 12:39 pm | #  
 
More Haganalysis.  
 
"Soundly"???
 
Hardly!
 
BOR is clearly the leader in both the demo and total viewers. The only one pushed into a lower demo by NG is Keith "Chezchoslovakia" Olbermann who not only loses to her in the demo, but it also now appears to be in total viewers.
 
Poor Keith. It appears that people are growing weary of his hate and his lies.
January 7, 2009, 1:51:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
"Soundly"???
Ashley | 01.07.09 - 1:56 pm |  
 
I'd say she's Pushing Bill soundly into 2nd spot In the Demo...She won every night listed below....I could go on but I'm not wanting any trouble....1-0 Haggis   
 
Tuesday, Dec. 23
Monday, Dec. 22
Friday, Dec. 19
Thursday, Dec. 18
Wednesday, Dec. 17
Tuesday, Dec. 16
Monday, Dec. 15
Friday, Dec. 12
January 7, 2009, 2:27:55 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
It appears that people are growing weary of his hate and his lies.
Ashley | 01.07.09 - 1:56 pm | #  
 
Clear thinking liberals, there are a few, shy away and even criticise keefy for his very divisive propaganda. The hard core haters, like haggy, cheer olbyonesidedkanoby on claiming he speaks "truth to power."
January 7, 2009, 2:36:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
divisive propaganda
Olby Sucks | 01.07.09 - 2:41 pm
 
OS...Your spouting again.  
Keith and Rachel give the American people...and now thanks to the web the world....the facts straight and unvarnished....Unlike Bill with his heavy water buckets.
January 7, 2009, 2:59:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Aeris Gainsborough | Homepage | 01.07.09 - 12:47 pm
 
Aeris...I couldn't agree with you more...It's an absolute nonsense that a supposed news channel is allowing their show hosts to say such out-of-control things. Of course no facts are ever given to back up their claims.
January 7, 2009, 3:44:50 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
haggy, I would urge you to check out OW.
January 7, 2009, 3:44:55 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
I'd say she's Pushing Bill soundly into 2nd spot In the Demo...She won every night listed below....
 
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 2:32 pm | #  
 
Well, considering that BOR was not there on several of those days, and the last time was two weeks ago, your "Pushing Bill soundly into 2nd spot In the Demo" analyis is "spot off".
January 7, 2009, 4:08:52 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 3:04 pm | #  
 
Well, according to the ratings, a vast majority of the viewers of the cable news network do not share your opinion.
January 7, 2009, 4:11:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
By the way Haggy - some time ago you made the claim that Bret Baier had something bad. You couldn't recall what it was but you were going to check into it.  
 
How's that going?
January 7, 2009, 4:14:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
You have to be patient. It takes time to Google Media matters and Think Progress.
January 7, 2009, 4:21:50 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Ashley | 01.07.09 - 4:19 pm |
 
That's an ongoing enquiry...I don't want to pre-empt it....but I'll be reporting back shortly.  
 
I have to give Bret Baier some well deserved credit....He has dropped the "fair and balanced" statement at the end of Special Report.....Thankfully he's realised he's flogging a dead horse there....Just a pity he's keeping the anti-Democrat grapevine.
January 7, 2009, 4:27:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
It's an absolute nonsense that a supposed news channel is allowing their show hosts to say such out-of-control things.
 
by haggy
 
You mean like, "Go to hell, Mr. Bush?" Or, "Resign, Mr. Bush?"
January 7, 2009, 4:29:44 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
You mean like, "Go to hell, Mr. Bush?" Or, "Resign, Mr. Bush?"
Olby Sucks | 01.07.09 - 4:34 pm |
 
Well who ever said that is an eminently intelligent man...And needs to be warmly shaken by the hand....Please tell me it wasn't O'reilly or Hannity after I've said that.
January 7, 2009, 4:37:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Thankfully he's realised he's flogging a dead horse there....HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 4:32 pm | #  
 
Oh really? You know this for a fact? How?
January 7, 2009, 4:40:52 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
That's an ongoing enquiry...I don't want to pre-empt it....but I'll be reporting back shortly.  
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 4:32 pm | #  
 
When?
January 7, 2009, 4:42:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Hey OS - how about that same person attacking W. over the years due to FISA, but the moment Obama comes out for FISA, he does the quick 180 and thinks FISA is just simply great!
 
I think K"C"O's backbone made of balsa wood makes him do it.
January 7, 2009, 4:44:35 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Ashley | 01.07.09 - 4:49 pm |
 
When did O'reilly ever call W a pinhead....But the President Elect isn't even in office yet....and O'reilly has called him a pinhead already...Where is the respect he always touted when it came to Bush?
January 7, 2009, 4:53:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"O'reilly has called him a pinhead already"
 
When was this?
January 7, 2009, 4:57:23 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
I don't know about that Haggis, but your hypocrisy has never been so blatant that you would express over concern about this alleged "pinhead" comment, yet you would idolize Mr. Chezchoslovakia for the insults he's hurled at the sitting president and a Senator who is a war hero.
January 7, 2009, 4:58:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.07.09 - 5:02 pm |
 
In last night pinheads & patriots section....Obama was the pinhead.
January 7, 2009, 4:59:27 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
You know Haggis, the first time you posted here under your 'regular' name you pulled the same crap. You insisted something happened on O'Reilly show and the multiple people who were watching it called you on it. You then said it was a test, then you said it was a joke, then you said it was something you misheard. But one thing is clear: it was a lie.
 
I thought that with the new year, maybe you could be a responsible commenter here. That was obviously my mistake. From last night's Factor:
 
And the Pinhead? Well, when president-elect Obama reviewed a restaurant on Chicago TV in August 2001, he effusively praised the dessert and reminded everyone to save room for the peach cobbler. The Factor agreed that "anyone who doesn't save room for peach cobbler is a pinhead."
 
You're still pulling the same crap you did back then. And reminding me that I was right when I banished you for lying, and apparently grievously in error when I gave you a second, err make that third...no, fourth chance to post in an honest, responsible fashion.
 
Enjoy your stay.
January 7, 2009, 5:06:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Over an 8 year old comment about a peach cobbler? Haggis, if you can't grasp the intent in which that was said, then your personal inventory of analysis skills has fallen close to zero.
January 7, 2009, 5:09:47 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
O'Reilly, "Barak Obama, pinhead or patriot? You decide."
 
HF decides O'Reilly called Obama a pinhead.
 
Me, "HF, pinhead or lying liberal? You decide."
January 7, 2009, 5:09:51 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Besides Haggis, the "pinhead" that BOR was referring to was anyone who did not save room for a peach cobbler. He was not calling Obama a pinhead. Yikes.
January 7, 2009, 5:11:58 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
The Gary Sinese special on FNC looks like it's going to be great. After reading that article, I think it's going to be an emotional experience!
January 7, 2009, 5:22:27 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Well who ever said that is an eminently intelligent man...And needs to be warmly shaken by the hand....Please tell me it wasn't O'reilly or Hannity after I've said that.
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 4:42 pm | #  
 
Bingo!
 
On the matter of the guy who wished to bean President Bush, Haggis would have no accusations of ego puffery had O'Reilly commended him...
January 7, 2009, 5:57:22 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Enjoy your stay.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.07.09 - 5:11 pm | #  
 
Is Haggy vacationing on Exile Island with Patrick?
January 7, 2009, 6:05:45 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Haggis is enjoying a brief respite in the balmy winds of Exile Island. As for Patrick, he's the Mayor there!
January 7, 2009, 6:07:21 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Ick!
 
The Matthews video made my labrador cringe!
January 7, 2009, 6:12:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Haggis is enjoying a brief respite in the balmy winds of Exile Island. As for Patrick, he's the Mayor there!
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.07.09 - 6:12 pm | # 
 
Champagne and peach cobbler, everyone!?
January 7, 2009, 6:16:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Good for Patrick. Nice to see the l'il feller stepping up in the world!
 
BTW Johnny - love the ticker up top saying "Olbermann in third place again".
January 7, 2009, 6:18:26 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Champagne and peach cobbler, everyone!?
Cecelia | 01.07.09 - 6:21 pm | # 
 
Yes on that! Don't bother asking Haggis, I hear he never saves room for peach cobbler.
January 7, 2009, 6:19:42 PM EST – Like – Reply


HarrySpence
Nice one Johnny but you must feel a little sorry for haggis. Patrick is simply torture.
January 7, 2009, 6:23:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Champagne and peach cobbler? That would sound great if I was an old lady. Give me a bloody steak boiled in butter and some Guiness and I'm set!
January 7, 2009, 9:31:11 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Champagne and peach cobbler? That would sound great if I was an old lady. Give me a bloody steak boiled in butter and some Guiness and I'm set!
 
Fox Fan | 01.07.09 - 9:36 pm | # 
 
Fine. I'll have what he's having.
January 7, 2009, 9:55:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
:+: Sometimes I just can't help but to like you Cece.
January 7, 2009, 10:26:58 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Sometimes I just can't help but to like you Cece.
 
Fox Fan | Homepage | 01.07.09 - 10:31 pm | # 
 
Baby, you have no idea.
 
(back atya)
January 7, 2009, 10:56:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


Liz PbD
HEY ASSHOLE . .
 
I left a very credible THREAT to you on NH Forum . .
 
I demand that you remove my name and PERSONAL email address from this POS blog . .
 
Do you get it, you fool??
 
I just have to walk 2 blocks to file a federal lawsuit against you and your employer, FOX . .
 
REMOVE MY NAME AND MY PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS IMMEDIATELY!!
 
I never gave you my personal info and never gave you or anyone else permission to post my personal information!!
 
You have been put on NOTICE!!
January 8, 2009, 12:11:04 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Despite the rules violations I went ahead and cleared the above message. Because I'm hoping one of our clear-headed readers can tell me what in the wide world of sports this person is talking about.
 
Liz, if you have a point to make, first, stop with the name calling and vulgarity. Second, you'll have to be a little more specific. Like, identify what exactly you are talking about. K?
January 8, 2009, 12:14:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I don't even know what a POS blog is.
January 8, 2009, 12:33:55 PM EST – Like – Reply


david smawley
Perhaps the overuse of recreational drugs, the lawsuit would be a hoot though and give J
January 8, 2009, 12:38:27 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Notice works both ways. If this is an attempt to libel this site with false accusations, we'll see how the 'huge law firm' likes having one of their employees using their corporate email to commit internet slander.
 
Update [1:00pm] BTW, Liz emailed me repeating her demand about her 'personal information' and I asked again for her to point out where this post is. So far, over a half-hour later, no reply. Things that make you go Hmmmmmm.
 
What is most likely to happen here is that Liz, whose charges are being greeted with skepticism even on the NH forum, and who has yet to point to where this information has been posted (let alone come up with a screengrab) will carry on this charade for a bit. Then she will claim that it was "removed" (without ever having pointed to its existence in the first place) and claim "victory". But we'll see and we'll know.
January 8, 2009, 12:45:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
It must be a link from the Fox Haters Condemn Racist Messages... Except Their Own blog.
 
Although, I wouldn't think you could sue someone for merely linking to info you had put out publicly.
January 8, 2009, 1:13:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
New development: another email from Liz. Did she respond to my question about where 'in the comments' her 'personal information' is posted. Um, no. Did she give an URL? Eh, no. She just repeated the claim. I once again asked her to point to where this 'personal information' is. I don't expect an answer.
 
I am of course saving all these emails for the edification of the 'huge law firm' whose email account she is using. It also occurred to me to check out the state bar's ethics and personal responsibility rules, which even a 'huge law firm' is required to abide by.
 
Cecelia: She is claiming that her personal yahoo email address was published in the comments here (and--get this!--that I am a hacker and hacked the newspoodle site and have access to everyone's private emails!). Unfortunately, a Google search of all the comments on this site turns up NO personal yahoo email addresses whatsoever. I keep asking her to point to it and she keeps refusing to do so.
 
Do your own search of the comments for yahoo email addresses: http://tinyurl.com/94394j
January 8, 2009, 1:17:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Liz has no clue what she is talking about? Shocker!
January 8, 2009, 1:23:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Evidently, Johnny, in your loot from NHs, you are unaware that among the treasures lies Liz's email address. 
 
She doesn't want to point it out to you, if you don't see it. She just wants you to take the entire thread down.
 
That's reasonable, no?... 
January 8, 2009, 1:31:19 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Is she talking about her e-mail in the box where is says "E-MAIL" in the halo scan box? Could she be that dumb?
January 8, 2009, 1:32:29 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Excellent point, OS. She looks at a comment thread, sees the post-a-new comment box at the bottom (which appears on every haloscan thread on every haloscan-comment site, which means thousands), and then thinks her email address is visible to someone other than herself. Yeah, I suppose she could be that dumb. It would explain a lot.
January 8, 2009, 1:35:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Latest email from Liz: she claims her name and email address are on EVERY comment thread on my blog. Yes, OS, I think you hit it. She's seeing the add-a-comment box and apparently doesn't realize that she is registered with haloscan, who are the ones who have her information. My reply:
 
I think one of our commenters may have an explanation. If you are seeing your name and email address (which I never had until just now) on every comment thread, you may be talking about the add-a-new-comment box at the bottom of the thread. This information is visible only to you because you are registered with haloscan. It appears in that box on every haloscan thread on every haloscan site because you are registered with them, and your name and email address are automatically filled in the box. That works exactly the same way it does on the NH mains. When you register there you are registering not with NH, but with haloscan, which then fills in your name and email on every haloscan thread on every haloscan site on the internet.
If in fact this is what you are talking about, you have libeled me and my website, and I expect a full and complete retraction. Thank you so much.
January 8, 2009, 1:41:35 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Liz must have just returned to her "high powered law firms office" from a "high powered" liquid lunch.
January 8, 2009, 1:41:50 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Another irate email: She insists I'm wrong, that she never registered with haloscan that way, and still claims her name and email appear on every comment page. Plus references to "your bubble hero" (don't ask me what that's supposed to mean) and another claim about screenshots (without producing any). 
 
So here's a neat test. If her name and 'personal information' appear on every comment thread here, then let's take a survey. How many of you readers see her name and 'personal information' on this thread? Or any thread? Show of hands please?
January 8, 2009, 2:00:42 PM EST – Like – Reply


Yes it's me again
HEY ASSHOLE . .
 
I left a very credible THREAT to you on NH Forum . .
 
I demand that you remove my name and PERSONAL email address from this POS blog . .
Liz PbD | 01.08.09 - 12:16 pm | # 
 
This woman is insane. Pay no attention to her.

Edited By Siteowner
January 8, 2009, 2:18:26 PM EST – Like – Reply


Yes it's me again
Keith and Rachel give the American people...and now thanks to the web the world....the facts straight and unvarnished....Unlike Bill with his heavy water buckets.
HaggisFarmer | 01.07.09 - 3:04 pm | 
 
Olberman is a 2 bit propaganda hack hired by MSNBC to stir the pot. He has nothing logical to discuss.
January 8, 2009, 2:27:11 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
J$ - seems like you would be within your rights to notify the law firm that someone is using their internet system to harass you; demand they stop the harassment of you.
 
Otherwise, in response to your 2:05 pm, I do not see her personal information
January 8, 2009, 2:51:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Thanks for your answer to the 'test'. You are correct about notification to the law firm. Among others.
January 8, 2009, 3:00:58 PM EST – Like – Reply


Yes it's me again
JOhnny, you get that mess cleaared up with Liz or is she still complaining about her "ghost" email address showing up here?
 
I don't see it.
January 8, 2009, 3:16:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Wayne
Johnny just catching up here!!! I would report this incident to the law firm for 2 reasons. She is using their e-mail system to threaten or/and harass you and she also is relying to heavily on the firms good graces as she stated on the NH thread.
 
---"I AM AN OFFICE MANAGER and they LOVE ME - don't cost me a dime for legal fees!!"---
 
Up to you of course, best of luck with your little problem.
 
Wayne
January 8, 2009, 3:19:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
It's not cleared up. She sent another email and I again asked her to see the screenshot she claims to have. No response. Probably because the screenshot if it exists would show the very add-a-new-comment box that appears on every haloscan comment thread on thousands of sites. Frankly, I won't consider it resolved until I see a retraction just as prominent as the original slanderous accusation.
January 8, 2009, 3:25:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Look up DISENGENUOUS HYPOCRITE in the dictionary and the Perv's face pops up!
 
Naturally Falafel lover fails to mention the WSJ article was one man's OPINION . .
 
And we all know that 'opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one'
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Liz PbD | 01.07.09 - 4:39 pm | # 
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I have never registered with Haloscan using 'Liz PbD' and I have never registered with any site other than news hounds using my PERSONAL EMAIL! 
 
Posted by: Liz PbD on Thu 1.8 1:59pm 
 
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First post, above, was taken from the "mains" at the beloved newshounds. The second post was taken from the "ot" forum. The "mains" use haloscan. Liz is either lying or delusional. I report, you decide.
January 8, 2009, 4:57:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
LOL, OS. She never used "Liz PbD" on Haloscan. And yet there are over 400 posts on haloscan/newshounds from... who else? Liz PbD!
 
http://tinyurl.com/8eolev
 
You're correct: either lying or delusional.
January 8, 2009, 5:06:07 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
---"I AM AN OFFICE MANAGER and they LOVE ME - don't cost me a dime for legal fees!!"---
 
If she is a manager at the company (rather than a clerk, researcher, etc.) that would make her an agent of the company and places the company at increased risk due to her online actions. They may love her there, but she's going to needing some of it if they reviewed her email.
January 8, 2009, 5:28:12 PM EST – Like – Reply


tony
J$: there was a time that I wanted people like Liz, General Goat, johnt and the countless others like them banned. However, I have since changed my mind. I find their emotional melt-downs to be comical relief.
January 8, 2009, 5:33:42 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Ashley, funny you should mention that angle. I got another email from her about a half hour ago, repeating the same lunatic charges, and tossing in a new one: she accused me of hacking into haloscan! She is still refusing to provide a copy of her incriminatory screen shot. My reply:
 
Newshounds uses the same haloscan comments that we do. Register on one and you register on all haloscan sites. The 'private information' is only visible to the owner of it. Nobody can see this 'private information' on my site, except for you.
Until I see a screenshot that shows your 'private information' on my site (and not in the add-a-comment haloscan box that only appears to the registrant and nobody else) you are only digging yourself into a deeper hole. But keep the emails coming. Especially since you are using a law firm's email account. Thank you so much.
January 8, 2009, 5:35:04 PM EST – Like – Reply


Anisha
Why wast your time with Nancy Grace, I get all my news from Jon Stewart!
January 8, 2009, 5:37:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
---"I AM AN OFFICE MANAGER and they LOVE ME - don't cost me a dime for legal fees!!"---
 
If she is a manager at the company (rather than a clerk, researcher, etc.) that would make her an agent of the company and places the company at increased risk due to her online actions. They may love her there, but she's going to needing some of it if they reviewed her email.
Ashley | 01.08.09 - 5:33 pm | # 
 
Maybe the money she saves could be used on grammar lessons.
January 8, 2009, 5:40:41 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Using stuff like "this is a threat" is none too bright.
January 8, 2009, 5:44:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.08.09 - 5:40 pm | # 
 
Excellent response, but I don't think that anyone needs to tell you of all people that responding to NH'ers with reason and logic is usually futile! I think her first thought after reading your post was "Huh?"
January 8, 2009, 6:01:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Anything new on the Liz PbD mystery, Johnny?
January 9, 2009, 9:42:47 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Previously, on Liz PbD...
 
She accused me of hacking into haloscan's private files, demanded her name etc be removed because it appears on every comment thread. I again tried to explain how log-ins worked and again asked her to produce her screenshot.
 
Since that time, she has stopped sending the harassing emails (which came from the corporate email account of a 'huge law firm'). I have heard nothing from her since then. Meanwhile, the hounds deleted the thread on their forum where she basically repeated the lunatic claims made here.
January 9, 2009, 10:35:29 AM EST – Like – Reply


Yes it's me again
Johnny, I saw a post on NH forums where Ellen said she sent an email to Liz explaining what happened with her information on haloscan. 
 
Maybe that is why you are not hearing from her again. SHe probably had a come to Jesus moment when she found out she was wrong.
 
You can expect an apology anytime now.
January 9, 2009, 11:55:42 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I was with you right until your last sentence.
January 9, 2009, 12:02:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Johnny, out of curiousity, have you ever had to take down a post or close a thread due to racism, bigotry or hate from us evil neocons :?:
January 9, 2009, 12:31:12 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Um...no.
January 9, 2009, 12:41:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Olby Sucks | 01.09.09 - 12:36 pm | # 
 
I resent that aspersion! I'll have you know I am not an evil neocon, I am an evil conservative fox-loving extremist who is a gold card carrying member of the vast right wing conspiracy.
January 9, 2009, 1:06:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


Yes it's me again
I was with you right until your last sentence.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.09.09 - 12:07 pm | 
 
That was a joke.
January 9, 2009, 1:14:06 PM EST – Like – Reply