'This Is My Show, and I'll Run the Interview!'
J$P Video! Megyn spars with Bill Burton over handguns:
From America's Newsroom, September 24 2008 fox news mk bb
tony
I love her.
I do try to watch all of the news station when time permits so I can make my OWN opinion (hint hint newshounds, maybe you guys should try doing the same). Fox is by far the best. They back up their opinions with facts, therefore, they are able to speak with guests whose opinion differs. Instead of making up lies about "Fixed News" as he calls them, maybe Keith Olbermannshould watch and learn.
September 24, 2008, 11:16:47 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
I caught this live this morning. "It's all documented," said burton over and over. Really? Where? "They're all lies," says burton. He did his best to talk over her, but, it didn't work! Good work, Megyn! Thanks for posting this, Johnny.
September 24, 2008, 12:25:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I hope I don't see Bill Burton again for a long time after November 4. But I know he'll be a higher-up in the Obama administration (meaning I think Obama will win).
September 24, 2008, 12:27:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Peggy
even if we do not agree with Burton, we all agree that Megyn needs to take a chill pill.
September 24, 2008, 1:08:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Bill Burton engaged in what's become a standard Democratic gambit-- go on an FNC show in order to suggest that FNC is a unique cable conduit for Republican "lies" or "smears".
Megyn responded logically, fairly, honestly, assertively, and maturely.
Good for her.
September 24, 2008, 1:59:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Vince
I'm glad Megyn was authentic.
September 24, 2008, 2:50:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
we all agree that Megyn needs to take a chill pill.
Peggy | 09.24.08 - 1:13 pm | #
Not.
September 24, 2008, 3:13:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
spearule
megyn kelly has more journalistic integrity than everyone at msnbc, nbc and cnn combined and then some. she has a weazel detector like no other. how revealing a presidential debate would be if she could moderate.
September 24, 2008, 3:31:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Peggy, when you speak for me, I will have taken a chill pill. Till then, we don't agree, keep fighting the good fight MK!
September 24, 2008, 3:35:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
A little perspective here, folks .... Burton, "like" him or not, doesn't excuse that Kelly is one of the cheapest hacks on FNC. She is rude, strident, partisan, arrogant, self-indulgent. I can't imagine how anyone could defend her demeanor or her integrity.
September 24, 2008, 4:13:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Burton should be fired after that pathetic attempt at speaking for obama. That "cheap hack" handed burton his ass.
September 24, 2008, 4:26:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
How can you say she is partisan when she treated McCain's guy in exactly the same way? That's question #1, that I'm sure won't be answered.
Background info: For those with a short memory, here is how Mark (who on no-rules day couldn't find almost nothing cable news related to talk about and focused his remarks on partisan politics)...here is how Mark described Campbell Brown's similarly "rude, strident, arrogant" interview when she was pressing a McCain guy for answers:
"We also seem to forget that the job of a journalist in a democracy (more or less) is to elicit information for us, the public. I don't see that she did anything but ask a perfectly legitimate question. It is hardly her fault Tucker was too flummoxed, so ill-prepared that he could not answer. Seems to be Campbell did us a great service. Some of the first real journalism on a cable network I have seen in some time."
OK, agenda clear now?
September 24, 2008, 4:27:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I can't imagine how anyone could defend her demeanor or her integrity.
Mark | 09.24.08 - 4:18 pm | #
She needs no help defending her demeanor or her integrity, she's fine by herself.
September 24, 2008, 4:28:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Wow, very clear agenda.
September 24, 2008, 4:35:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
spearule
damn mark! outed for hypocrisy. thats gonna leave mark. johnny with factual record , fair and balanced beatdown!
September 24, 2008, 4:41:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
Really, really cheap, Johnny. You have the nerve to talk about MY agenda? Then, to top that cheap shot, you critique me, in your highly personal, picayune and prejudicial way, for expressing my opinion in what was essentially an open forum, an opinion which, by the way, used no profanity and consisted of more than the inarticulate grunts of those whose opinions mimic yours (and, I speak not of Cecelia, FF, Mike, Sharon, vstol here). Well, shame on you for that. You are far brighter, far more reasonable than that, and if your goal, as it obviously is, to provide FNC the least inexpensive PR it can obtain, then the depths to which you sink to discredit me, discredit only you and FNC. Shame on you. Shame on me for being surprised that you would do this.
September 24, 2008, 5:22:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
In other words I was right. You didn't answer the question.
But since you raise the issue, I ask you to document your statement about the 'inarticulate grunts whose opinions mimic [mine]'. Who are they? What were the opinions in question? And where did I ever express opinions that mimicked what they say?
Unlike the question I predicted you would not answer, this is not an optional question. Your personal attack on me is clearly a violation of the rules, but I'll first give you the opportunity to back it up with quotes from them, and from me, that proves our opinions mimic each other.
September 24, 2008, 5:29:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I have a comment and question for Mark, I hope he can understand my inarticulate grunts and groans.
How does J$ discredit FNC?
He did a great job comparing your analyses of the Brown and Kelly interviews. He also asked you a clear and specific question which you dodged as if it were the ebola virus.
"How can you say she is partisan when she treated McCain's guy in exactly the same way?
I think that is a legitimate question.
September 24, 2008, 5:43:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Mark thinks it's really quite a low blow for Johnny to have used Mark's own words against him and for him to have implied that Mark has an agenda here at Johnny's blog...when it's really Johnny whoi obviously has an agenda here.... at his own blog....
In Johnny's agenda of shilling for FNC, he protects those inarticulate grunters and groaners whose opinions mimic his own...but damnit he's too bright and too reasonable a guy... to have shamefully suggested that Mark has an agenda.
Now how could anyone, from Mark's own words, imagine THAT??...
September 24, 2008, 6:21:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Kelly is one of the cheapest hacks on FNC. She is rude, strident, partisan, arrogant, self-indulgent. I can't imagine how anyone could defend her demeanor or her integrity.
Mark | 09.24.08 - 4:18 pm | #
Really, really cheap, Johnny. You have the nerve to talk about MY agenda? Then, to top that cheap shot, you critique me, in your highly personal, picayune and prejudicial way,
Mark | 09.24.08 - 5:27 pm | #
Oh, the hypocrisy........Mark, have you ever read Mark Twain?
September 24, 2008, 6:47:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I have read and reread the entire post from J$...johnny dollar | Homepage | 09.24.08 - 4:32 pm | #
Mark wrote
Really, really cheap, Johnny. You have the nerve to talk about MY agenda? Then, to top that cheap shot, you critique me, in your highly personal, picayune and prejudicial way
I need help here.
Can someone clip and post the exact quote from J$ 4:32 post where he critiques Mark in a "personal, picayune and prejudicial way"? I just don't see it.
September 24, 2008, 7:34:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Mark, we understand why you cannot cope with a defense of MK, because you defend the likes of liberal shills like KO and RM. So take it with a grain of salt my liberal friend, man up and stop with the democrat party talking points posts. How bout an original thought for a change?
September 24, 2008, 7:59:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
The Factor
Megan Kelly should take over The Factor once O'Reilly retires. She is better than he is a stopping spin.
September 24, 2008, 8:23:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
spearule
how's this for articulation mark, i am grunt for no one. to come here and hope to point out and ridicule mindless lockstep with the host is intellectual laziness. when your own words come back to reveal your hypocrisy, how is that a cheap shot and how does that in any fashion bring discredit to fnc or any damn body else?! take the beating and come back with real and meaningful discourse and perhaps you wont be looked upon as blindly partisan pseudo-intellectual verbose blowhard. big deal pal, we all 700 verbals.
September 24, 2008, 8:28:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
JIC everyone hasn't noticed, Mark is MIA.
September 24, 2008, 9:46:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Incredible interview. Megyn caught the dooshbag lying red handed and buried his credibility.
Obama can come to my house and take my handguns (and rifles and shotgun) from my cold, dead hands.
September 24, 2008, 9:47:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
mark wll come back. Just not to this thread. It's a well established pattern. Don't believe me? Pick a thread.....
September 24, 2008, 11:39:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
Surprise and disappointment, vstol and Jeff. Mark is back on this thread! Why did he disappear? Well, he didn't at all. His last post was shortly before 12:00 Midnight in Spain, and he went to bed. Now, it's 7:00 a.m., and he's awake. So, let's drop that tired and foolish canard about not responding. NOW!
Johnny, I did not say you were a mimic of the inarticulate grunters, I said they were a mimic of you. Since I am called upon to name names, by you, and since I did not do so out of my respect for your rules and courtesy of you, I was speaking of Jeff as the inarticulate grunter. Solely. Using the imperial plural pronoun, again, out of respect. And, you know that. During the experiment, what did we have? Not what you summarized as happening, i.e. one of the handful of people who rejects your pablum spoon-feeding of right wing ideology launching into some dominating non-cable related screed? No, indeed. I had several posts dealing exclusively, relevantly with cable news, and then, when Sharon goes into a pro-Palin politcal apology, scarcely bothering to make a cable news tie, as was her right under the rules of the day and which she did effectively and well, I responded. So, I am the ogre? Why? I don't share your pro-Palin line. The FNC pro-Palin line? The Gospel of SS. Fred and Bill?
Then, Jeff grunts pointless attacks, repeatedly, fighting to dominate the board, and I again am the ogre? Why? Because there is no more extreme rightist on the board than Jeff, and he must be nurtured, his mindless utterings must be given deference?
What crap, Johnny.
Yet, you compare Kelly favorably to Brown. Shrill, rude screed v. probing, persistent quesioning. It wasn't even a decent attempt by Kelly to be Campbellesque. Stick ball to Yankee Stadium (in a good year).
Do what you want. It is your right. If you want to simply shill for FNC, without an informed dissenting opinion, providing you the opportunity to test and prove your point in a fashion that all thoase falling about your feet could never do, that's your loss, and the loss of your other readers, save and except the inarticulate grunter(s). I am sure he/she/they will continue to oblige you and to fill cyberspace with mounds of cold crap.
September 25, 2008, 1:22:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I'm sorry Mark. I didn't ask you to explain your political posts. It was a no rules thread and political posts were permitted. I only observed how eagerly you dove into the political arena when it was permitted. It was an interesting data point. Like how you had no use for Olbermann, didn't watch him, held him in low regard...until all of a sudden you produced a list of all the brilliant reportage he has done on about a dozen different stories. An interesting data point.
No, I asked you something quite different and more specific. I asked you to back up what you call my 'right-wing ideology'. A few quotes from me would do the trick. Instead you have replied with more name-calling and more personal attacks on me. You do not document or back up a personal attack by repeating it, or by doubling down with new ones. Now it's my 'Pro-Palin' line. I'd ask you to quote me back to document that, but then backing up what you say isn't exactly your strong suit.
If you cannot substantiate an attack on me, you could at least be a man and have the integrity to take it back and apologize. Oops, you didn't do that either. So you have made your decision. I do not like personal attacks (I'm leaving your entire message up despite the fact that it is full of such attacks), and that goes double when someone decides to make me the target.
You are free to lie about Fox. You are free to lie about Megyn Kelly. You are not free to lie about me.
September 25, 2008, 1:36:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Yet, you compare Kelly favorably to Brown. Shrill, rude screed v. probing, persistent quesioning. It wasn't even a decent attempt by Kelly to be Campbellesque. Stick ball to Yankee Stadium (in a good year).
Mark | 09.25.08 - 1:27 am | #
Perhaps if Tucker Bounds had accused CNN of being of being the Obama conduit for compaign lies, Campbell Brown would have acted similarly to Megyn, instead of relentlessly probing Bounds for the answer to the vital question of why Palin could put her pregnant teenage daughter through all the media scrutiny (of which she-- Brown-- would play a part)...
September 25, 2008, 3:00:15 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Johnny, play fair!
You hurt Markey's feelings.
You're always so nice to the girls and so mean to him. I thought better of you, Johnny.
Just come on over to Grammie's and I'll give you some cookies and juice and then you can curl up with your blanky and cry yourself to sleep, poor little baby.
September 25, 2008, 5:28:42 AM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
Mark,
FYI (for your information), the acronym MIA stands for "missing in action."
It does not connote anything other than the status, condition and location of an individual is unknown.
Why do you take everything so personally?
September 25, 2008, 6:25:01 AM EDT – Like – Reply
sharm
"...and then, when Sharon goes into a pro-Palin politcal apology, scarcely bothering to make a cable news tie, ..."
Another commenter who made several anti-Palin comments, asking for challenge. Because the rules were ditched, I responded to a link HE provided. I then provided further information of deception. Funny, you decided to attack me with these words/phrases: "..simultaneously defending racists and racism (libelous remark)..."don't engage in this tacky and tawdry conduct. It really belitles you (your typo)." The remaining words don't rise to the same level (please stop humiliating yourself, pull the lever as you always do, then an anti-Palin line thrown in). This is supposed to be made all better by saying that my supposed racism and tawdry behavior is beneath my dignity.
Are you so lonely for company that you have to malign people in order to have communication? Are you so different than your analysis to Johnny describing another commenter? It appears to me that is your justification for your behavior now and in the past
"Sorry, Crackpot, but I am not angry. More amused at the foolishness from you, the Bag (your pet name for Cecelia), the Hag (pet name for Grammie) and the Gag (my lovely pet name), and pure pity for Dipshit (addressing OS).
"Way to go Dipshit! The nation's biggest Chickenhawk Pantywaist, constantly running to hide under the Nasty Old Bag's skirts. What unmitigated gall.
Yes, Mark, what unmitigated gall you have.
September 25, 2008, 8:41:35 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Mark | 09.25.08 - 1:27 am to Johnny
"Do what you want. It is your right."
I am sure that Johnny will be relieved and grateful for your permission, Markey, to comment on his own blog.
"If you want to simply shill for FNC, without an informed dissenting opinion, providing you the opportunity to test and prove your point in a fashion that all thoase falling about your feet could never do, that's your loss, and the loss of your other readers, save and except the inarticulate grunter(s)."
Dare I hope that this is another poignant farewell from you? I can only speak for myself but I do think I will be able to bravely soldier on without your dazzling presence here. It won't be easy but I'm sure we'll manage somehow.
"I am sure he/she/they will continue to oblige you and to fill cyberspace with mounds of cold crap."
As opposed to the steaming piles that you leave in your wake?
September 25, 2008, 10:57:17 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Dare I hope that this is another poignant farewell from you? I can only speak for myself but I do think I will be able to bravely soldier on without your dazzling presence here. It won't be easy but I'm sure we'll manage somehow.
Grammie | 09.25.08 - 11:02 am | #
Shame... Tragedy... What a loss...
A nanosecond of silence for Mark leaving our midst, please...
Done.
Grammie, Sharon, do you have any thoughts about Johnny's recent experiment?
September 25, 2008, 11:41:02 AM EDT – Like – Reply
sharm
I agree you your suggestion, Cecelia, about the system set up at Olbermann Watch. It is funny that some people found the thread abominable for that period of time. I thought it was pretty low key. It was only that PP dude who disparaged McCain with all the usual smears. I think that SOMEONE told the others not to jump rather than how high to jump, and they all obeyed, except for the lone ranger. Maybe he will punished by whatever means the sickos use.
I am not able to participate all that much because of other obligations so I don't think my opinion should be given the same weight as the regulars (the honest brokers).
September 25, 2008, 12:09:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
I sure do, Cecelia. You have to know that I always have not only an opinion but a good one.
I wrote it on another thread. Here 'tis.
"Although I didn't participate in real time I am, as ever, happy to put my two cents in re The Experiment.
You certainly garnered a lot more comments than usual. Unfortunately, too many by far were by one or two deadly dull trolls that were not worth reading much less responding to. Add that on top of Mark's chronic not so subtle personal attacks and supercillious preening and you have a recipe for disaster.
I don't like it when you turn the moderation on, its too stringent, any better than I did your experiment. As long as there are so many creeps out there who delight in being crass, rude, vile and disruptive totally open is not an option, IMO.
That's why I like Cecelia's idea. I hope you think about it.
Grammie | 09.25.08 - 5:18 am | # "
I realyy like your idea of an easy registration and then zap permanently anyone who can't or won't follow Johnny's rules. This is Johnny's site and we all are here at his forebearance.
I promise you that Johnny has a lot more forebearance for some of these jerks who seem to want to run/ruin his site and are hurt and angry, a la Markey, when he doesn't roll over and play dead for them.
What chutzpah!
September 25, 2008, 12:14:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I hadn't read your post about the experiment when I asked you what you thought of it, Grammie.
I'm glad that you like the idea of a registration system like OW's, but with immediate access granted.
I think that would strike a good balance between freedom and premeditated chaos-causing, and might let Johnny out for a long walk once and awhile in the lovely fall weather... :D
How did you ever get along without us, Johnny?
September 25, 2008, 12:24:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
I can only speak for myself but I do think I will be able to bravely soldier on without your dazzling presence here. It won't be easy but I'm sure we'll manage somehow.
Grammie | 09.25.08 - 11:02 am
Stiff upper lip, old girl (in the affectionate usage).
Eh, what?
September 25, 2008, 12:45:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Right-o, old boy!
And when walking behind MarkeyI have a very tightly pinched nose to go with my stiff upper lip!
September 25, 2008, 1:26:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
slider
god i love that girl....she's great
September 25, 2008, 3:09:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
