Monday Links & Open Thread
Monday cable news links [7:45 pm]:
John McCain, channel surfer.
Q&A: Chris Wallace (via/TVN)
Here comes the Judge.
MSNBC introduces newsware.
Video: CNN is a no Wright zone.
Friday's numbers.
Factor satire, FNS snark.
Page Hopkins resurfaces again.
Pundit list probed.
New MSNBC/NYTimes hour. Newsweek and the Wall Street Journal marginalized?
MSNBC follows orders? Olbermann's envy?
Survey: trust tied.
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on Fox Friends Monday. Uh-oh.
Profile: Fox Business Network (via TVN). Buffett buffet.
CNN in español.
Shocking exposé.
Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply. fox news cable news
johnny dollar
I would recommend that you take what you read in that piece with a grain of salt.
May 5, 2008, 1:01:04 AM EDT – Like – Reply
On The Mark
I was unable to watch my "shows" this weekend, so I am curious if any of the cable news or broadcast news political programs provided any analysis of the Cazayoux/Jenkins race? The dynamic of the district and the race are so interesting, and the outcome (Cazayoux very narrowly winning a seat held by the Republicans since Desegregation) is subject to so many interpretations. Jenkins tried very, very hard to make the race national, and he seems to have failed. Any portend? I am particularly curious as to comments by Barone, if any. Since I haven't been able to link to any, I assume there were none?
I realize Stephanopolus is not cable news, but I saw a replay of his "discussions" with Clinton. He seemed to flummox here on the gasoline tax pandering, but went strangley silent when the subject of her mythical opposition to NAFTA during the (Bill) Clinton years arose. This strikes me as an interview that should never have taken place. Stephanopolous was far too compromised.
May 5, 2008, 8:30:59 AM EDT – Like – Reply
peggy
Stephanopolus is very loyal to Hillary and not her husband, it was her that saved him when Bill wanted to get rid of him
May 5, 2008, 10:57:02 AM EDT – Like – Reply
olbysucks
London has gone conservative and McGreevy is being sued, deservedly so.
May 5, 2008, 11:06:10 AM EDT – Like – Reply
On The Mark
Everything I have read suggests you are correct, Peggy. As such, do you think Stephanopolous should have been conducting this session under the auspices of a news program?
May 5, 2008, 11:07:02 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Johnny, has Daily Kos declared it a national day of mourning yet?
May 5, 2008, 11:27:57 AM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
Wow... that expose was really special.
The incorrect names... the misstated facts... the paranoia...
Too bad he doesn't allow comments.
May 5, 2008, 12:53:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olbysucks
As such, do you think Stephanopolous should have been conducting this session under the auspices of a news program?
On The Mark | 05.05.08 - 11:12 am | #
It was about as fair and informative as the moyer/wright and the olbermahn/obama 'interviews.'
May 5, 2008, 1:00:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On The Mark
You may be overlooking the essential point, however: Stephanopolous was once employed by the Clintons. Wright never employed Moyers, and Obama never employed Olbermann.
May 5, 2008, 3:17:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
I have read that Gregory's ? hour was going to be linked with Maddow and her Err America show.
Has it started yet and what are the mechanics of it, ie will Maddow be split screen, audio only or do her show from MSNBC?
May 5, 2008, 4:22:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
My wish came true on Friday evening. The Factor with guest host Laura Ingraham more than doubled the audience for Countdown with it's regular host. KOing KO!
May 5, 2008, 5:27:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olbysucks
Obama never employed Olbermann.
On The Mark | 05.05.08 - 3:22 pm
This is debatable.........
May 5, 2008, 5:54:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
This is purely a technical question to help me know what people are seeing. I tend to avoid using special characters because they can get all bollixed up by browsers etc. But in this post I did use them at the bottom in "espanol" and "expose". If these look like they're supposed to (a curly over the "n" in "espagnol" and a slash over the final "e" in "expose") that's fine. You don't have to post that you see them OK. But if these words look goofed up or have garbage characters in them on your screen, I would appreciate it greatly if you post what you see. That way I'll know not to try getting fancy next time!
May 5, 2008, 6:09:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
"Obama never employed Olbermann.
On The Mark | 05.05.08 - 3:22 pm
This is debatable.........
olbysucks | 05.05.08 - 5:59 pm | # "
Or the saying goes, if he is not paying him he sure should be!
May 5, 2008, 6:16:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
Characters look fine to me, J$.
May 5, 2008, 6:33:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
I can see them, too.
Will we still see Jeanine Pirro on FNC despite this new CW show?
"The Ingraham Factor" and "Countdown" cut it pretty close in the demo Friday night: 376K-313K. Total viewers weren't even close, but the young'uns seem to love Oralmann. OTR and AC360 tied. Wow.
May 5, 2008, 6:48:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Your tilde and accent came through perfectly Johnny.
May 5, 2008, 7:02:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Thanks for the reports. I don't know if Pirro will be seen on FNC, but if she is, it will be far more occasionally than now. I recall that Judge Napolitano disappeared from Fox to do a tv judge show for a year ("Power of Attorney"); even though he was doing the show he still made occasional appearance on FNC. The show did well but he didn't like doing the show trials as much as legal and political commentary so he was back full-time at FNC within a year.
May 5, 2008, 7:08:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
nuance mike, or something else at work? You don't think "host" vs "guest host" is a factor. Stop with the love for KO spin.
May 5, 2008, 7:42:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I don't think Mike has much love for KO!
May 5, 2008, 7:46:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
I have no love. I always see David here. How could he not know my dislike of Olby?
May 5, 2008, 7:58:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I wish FNC would have a John Gibson and The Judge show.
May 5, 2008, 8:00:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I'm not a Page Hopkins fan. I think F & F needs a female host with more gravitas than has been the case, but Page seems too heavy-handed.
Someone mentioned (it may have been Johnny) that E.D. Hill would be a good candidate for that slot. I agree! If we can't have her back on the daily show (though I've come to like Gretchen) it would be nice to see her weekends.
May 5, 2008, 8:07:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I don't get why people are always jumping on you Mike. I always understand the insinuations and sarcasm when you post it. You were celebrating the win over KO with the sub for BOR...
johnny, did you notice the acute accent I usedon "exposé" in the latest NH comments?
May 5, 2008, 8:19:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
>I don't get why people are always jumping on you Mike.<
It usually comes from partisans in attack mode. Now, watch me get jumped on for saying that.
May 5, 2008, 8:39:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On the Mark
Good for Roberts and CNN cooling the Wright repetition. Virtually every quantitative measure we have indicates that the story was not gaining the ratiings the networks envisioned and that most viewers and potential voters found it largely irrelevant. Yet, a number of personalities, notably Hannity and Gregory, have been reduced to mere parrots: "Rev. Wright. Rev. Wright. Rev. Wright." Frankly, I think Roberts is justifiably proud. BTW: Unless I am mistaken, Gregory was a full 25 minutes into his show today before Roberts became a substantive topic, and then only briefly.
Some kudos to the unfortunate and insufferable Tweey: the opening segment with Fineman, Todd and (Linda) Douglas was an exceptionally learned and articulate discussion. Also, calm and respectful. A high water mark of sorts for cable news.
May 5, 2008, 8:41:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
By the way, I should clarify. They're in attack mode and anything that sounds dissenting is worthy of attacking.
May 5, 2008, 8:47:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I hardly find the Rev. Wright story irrelevant and neither do most people I know (I'm talking real life, not partisan internet life here). It's one of the few insights to the pre-primary unknown Obama's personal life. And it's not pretty.
BTW OTM, those comments from weekend open thread were rather inflammatory and struck against the quality of your character, and you didn't respond for explained reasons. I'm interested in the private addressing you mentioned...
May 5, 2008, 8:48:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Feel free to dissent, Mike. OTM has no problem doing it, and I think it's a great thing if done so without use of personal attacks.
May 5, 2008, 8:51:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
Okay. I wasn't even dissenting in that earlier comment. I was just saying "well, I guess the young far-left people are the reason Keith got such a high demo rating." David took it as "I'm a young person and I love Keith Olbermann."
May 5, 2008, 8:56:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Speaking of Keith, tonight was probably the highest height of Olbypocrisy ever achieved. He made Olbermann a "worst person" for doing something Olby himself did, and more than once. The recap is up at OlbyWatch.
May 5, 2008, 9:17:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olbysucks
Good for Roberts and CNN cooling the Wright repetition.
posted b 'otm'
Every obamaloons dream. Downplaying what even obama himself called a 'relevent' issue. Ayers has just begun then there's the real estate crook, Rezzy.
May 5, 2008, 9:32:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
