Weekend Links & Open Thread
Sunday cable news links [9:30 pm]:
Primary coverage, CNN: Wolf (2:00pm)
FNC: Geraldo (2:00pm, 8:00pm), Wallace (3:00pm), Baier (5:00pm, 10:00pm)
MSNBC: Matthews, Olbermann (2:00pm).
Universal fire: pix.
HuffPo and Olbermann.
Alan's hate mail.
Sunday talkers: roundup.
Keith, Coop: comparison.
Greta pix: DNC1, DNC2.
Wendy Murphy: fired O'Reilly protester deserved it!
Geraldo smacks Hillary.
Rosen book reviewed.
HD developments.
Housley's FBI speech.
Remembering context.
Profile: Jenna Lee.
Monday's O'Reilly Factor: Scott McClellan.
Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in this weekend's open thread. Standard rules apply. fox news cable news
Mike C.
Jossip is great when they're speaking ill of MSNBC, but not when they do that to BOR.
May 31, 2008, 12:53:59 AM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Awesome post on context.G** d*** this country for paying more attention to the part than the whole.But it will be a long campaign.You're going to be out there for 100 years,through all 57 states.And it's not a situation where you can bomb,bomb,bomb.
May 31, 2008, 7:14:01 AM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
nvh: wow.. I have never heard those ideas before ever.
Thank you so much for bringing light to darkness
May 31, 2008, 7:28:09 AM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
VinceP1974
You need to laugh more.
The only "Playboy" I ever bought was back in the Contra war days,when they were the only outlet that interviewed Daniel Ortega.So I guess it's possible that some people DO buy "Playboy" regularly for the articles.
So'cute and athletic' Jenna,with the 'very porn starrish name,is 'one of the first images...viewers see when they get out of bed.''When she's not being ridiculed by her co-anchors for being so hot, Jenna is leading the Fox Business network'.
Now I'm not disparaging the young woman or her work.but honestly,was she hired for her qualifications,or her looks.And is this really what people are looking for in 'business news'?
If Fox Business were hiring based solely on qualifications,statistically speaking they would have some ugly people on staff,since there are more ugly than attractive people.And if they were interested in being an equal opportunity offender,I think they could have come up with better eye candy for the ladies than Neil Cavuto.
So let's just be honest.What is Fox trying to sell.Let's just drop the facade of 'buying it for the articles'.
Now go ahead and disparage my manhood.
May 31, 2008, 7:51:55 AM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
What the hell are you talking about?
May 31, 2008, 8:22:27 AM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
Playboy?! Where the heck did that comment come from? Did I just black out and miss something?
ANYWAY...
What's the deal with Jossip and FOX? I know they're all about gossip, and thusly pretty cynical and sarcastic... but when it comes to FOX, they seem to have an extra vendetta. They're always very negative, and present their stories to be even a little extra negative if they can (note the O'Reilly picture used in that story). What's the deal?
May 31, 2008, 11:13:22 AM EDT – Like – Reply
HSUK
"OReillys producer would not agree to have Scott come on unless they could go first."
Doesn't that statement just remind you of a spoilt wee kid...So why are they now making do with 5ths?
May 31, 2008, 11:43:48 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> Doesn't that statement just remind you of a spoilt wee kid
No.
May 31, 2008, 11:55:34 AM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Blue, don't make too much of philby's psychotic rant. Reading 'newshounds reports' can make you that way.
May 31, 2008, 12:17:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On The Mark
I can't imagine what the unfortunately named poster's whine de l'apres midi is, but I am sure it is nothing worth trying to understand anyway, so I'll just move to "big news in cable news" today:
1. The wonderful job Chuck Todd is doing with his analysis of the DNC hearings and of the primary process. He is moving beyond an MSNBC/NBC treasure to a national treasure. He is, beyond question, the fairest and finest political analyst at work in the media today. Many, many thanks and heart cingratulations, Chuck!
2. O'Reilly's McClellan scoop, well after the ice cream had run from the scoop and melted into a tepid, sticky, caking pool. I'm sure we all eagerly await the breaking news that will emerge from this likely mad tirade. To paraphrase, a mind is a terrible thing to lose, and to watch the degeneration play out on national television is poignant. I hope FNC will give us O'Reilly's address after the men with the nets haul him off in the nice white van. I make a knock-out chocolate-white chocolate chip pecan cookie I'd like to send.
May 31, 2008, 12:55:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "HD Developments": At this point, I'd rather watch FNC in SD than CNN in HD. And with Cablevision in no rush to add any other channels while continuing to snark through their "we're better than the competition" ads, FNC in SD is my only option. The closest I'll get to FNC in HD is "Fox News Sunday" in Widescreen Digital on Fox.
May 31, 2008, 1:07:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
The reviewer of James Rosen's book hates Fox, hates Republicans, hates him. That's the impression I got from the review. I expect nothing less from WaPo.
May 31, 2008, 1:45:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Chris
mcclellan vs oreilly: that will be fun to watch
May 31, 2008, 2:12:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On The Mark
I am not going to disagree with you, Mike, that the Washington Post and other print, broadcast and cable media outlets have a negative view of FNC, that they tend to view it as less-than-news.
Some people, mostly twits, argue that this is because of some jealousy of FNC's relative success (albeit in a small niche of the over-all media). Dismissed!
Others see this as political/pholosophical prejudice. Some bright, articulate people argue this position. I don't really buy into it, but I don't discard it, either.
I tend to think there is a prejudice against what the more traditional media see as "presentation". That is an awfully vague term, I know. I think it is a mix of anchor/reporter style and visuals. For example, I think Hume and Garrett could be accepted in any news organization, but a Cameron (highly compromised) and a Smith (garish)would not and are not. Hannity and O'Reilly are viewed, justifiably, as shamelessly pandering crackpots, and the entire F&F "thing" is absurd, ridiculous. In saying that, I am talking about mainstream media characterizations, not necessarily my own, although I do tend to concur.
Then, there are presentations issues. I think FNC sets and graphics are tastleless and tacky. The sets turn the news, however legitimate, into an American Idol type show. That is taste. People differ. No one is right. No one is wrong. But, I think this emphasizes that FNC is targeting its appeal to a largely unnewsed set. A Clintonesque turn to the common man and woman who find real news and traditional presentations boring, and would sooner watch Law & Order reruns.
Parenthetically, I don't think we can overlook the boobs and thighs flashed all about FNC. Murdock pioneered B+T news in the UK, and it appealed to the hooligan sect there enough to sell newspapers. It apparently works here as well, although it is a lowly regarded technique.
In saying that, I recognize that there are educated, newsed people who are drawn to FNC for a variety of legitimate reasons and who are inappropriately looked down upon by a rather smug and traditional media.
I also have to recognize that in bringing in at least some of the teeming throng, FNC is serving a greater good.
Lastly, I would say that FNC does some legitimate, sound broadcasting which is too often thrown in the enormous trash bin of FNC programming. A couple such shows are Hume/Wallace and the Beltway Boys. These establish that FNC can follow a more legitimate, traditional road. It has just chosen not to do so.
I don't really have any firm answers, but I do think this presentation issue is probably far more legitimate than the political/philosophical one.
May 31, 2008, 2:17:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Anyway...
Re: "Geraldo smacks Hillary": It was more like she, her aides, and this Leibovich guy smacked him by essentially ignoring him.
And way to go, Wendy Murphy! But shame on Barry Nolan for infiltrating the comments to her editiorial. I reported abuse for his comment.
May 31, 2008, 4:25:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I just went to CNN's website to look for Tony Snow's network bio. There wasn't one listed. I saw one for reporter Mary Snow, but not Tony Snow. Is he there or what?
I certainly learned why I haven't seen Amy Holmes on FNC in a while; she's one of CNN's conservative contributors. Bill Bennett is another one.
May 31, 2008, 5:27:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
"...I don't think we can overlook the boobs and thighs flashed all about FNC."
Do men no longer explain they're choice in literature by saying they buy "Playboy" for the articles?
Oh,well.If you have to explain the humor then it's not very funny.
May 31, 2008, 5:29:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Hold your fire, nvh. Mark's on your side.
May 31, 2008, 5:37:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
Doesn't that statement just remind you of a spoilt wee kid...So why are they now making do with 5ths?
HSUK | 05.31.08 - 11:48 am | #
Actually, it makes me think that when some people said they doubted whether or not O'Reilly's producer actually said that... they have been proven correct.
But I'm sure you don't see it that way... that wouldn't fit your spin.
May 31, 2008, 5:49:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Mike C. | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 5:42 pm |
I know.But s/he explained it in a straightforward manner .I took the scenic route to explain the same point and everyone apparently fell off the bus.
May 31, 2008, 5:50:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
Apparently Barry himself came and commented on the Wendy Murphy piece.
I responded...
"Good to see you're still up to something, Barry!
After going from national celebrity, to local access news, one might have cause to think they're unsuccessful, untalented, or unfit to comment on anyone else's career. But you've pushed through that! You've ignored what can most accurately be called a failure of a career, and insisted that you be listened to. And while that was something of a failure too (nobody listened, and you accomplished nothing), you can hold your head high... as you look through the "help wanted" pages.
It's good to see you commenting here, clearly still thinking very highly of yourself. I hope you can continue to dodge reality, talk down to people who have received considerably more success than you, and live the great life you imagine you have.
Only one question, Barry... your protest failed, you've gained no popularity, you've lost your job, you've significantly hurt the future of your career, and youve been reduced to trying to defend yourself by commenting on a public blog (just like the rest of us a far way to fall for someone who used to be considered a celebrity). A failure on all possible levels. So was it worth it?"
May 31, 2008, 5:52:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Did he say anything yet?
Mark's a guy.
May 31, 2008, 6:20:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
First sentence was for ImNotBlue, second for nvh.
May 31, 2008, 6:21:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
It was a big political story Friday night on every news channel--except of course on OlbyPlanet. Keithy carefully avoided any mention of the Pfleger controversy, though he managed to bring up Hagee [Ding!], a story that he flogged for days. And of course Dan Abrams attacked Fox for reporting the Pfleger story, conveniently overlooking the point that it wasn't Fox but ABC News that broke the story (just as they did with Rev Wright). But attacking Fox is more important than getting the facts right.
Now in the wake of the Pfleger flap it has just been reported that Obama is quitting the Trinity United Church, effective immediately. Imagine that. It was so unimportant that Edward R Olbermann spiked it completely. It was so irrelevant that Dan Abrams had to smear Fox for reporting it. Only it turns out to have been so important that a Presidential candidate left his church of twenty years as a result of it.
Just another demonstration of how the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann slants, manages, filters, and spins the news so that you only hear what he wants you to hear, even if it means leaving out one of the most important political stories of the campaign.
May 31, 2008, 6:28:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
I see a horribly divided room full odf (d)'s on msdnc. Who was the clown claiming the GOB was 'imploding' yesterday? No need to name names....
May 31, 2008, 6:44:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Who's obama gonna chuck under the bus, next? Axlerod? LOL!
May 31, 2008, 6:48:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Got alittle frothy, meant GOP, apologies to the teach.
May 31, 2008, 6:58:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
Who's obama gonna chuck under the bus, next?
olby sucks | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 6:53 pm | #
According to the nets, the "Trinity Church" is going under the bus. Obama has sent them his resignation letter... story is developing.
May 31, 2008, 7:06:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On The Mark
Yes, great disunity, indeed ....
It's always amazing to me how Republicans and, by extension, FNC, are so scared of debate. Debate includes disagreement and works toward compromise. It's called the democratic process. Would that it had a home in Republican party as well.
Good work DNCRC and good work to Andrea Mitchell and Chuck Todd, too.
Hao-oy days are here a-gain ....
May 31, 2008, 7:31:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Kirk G
Housley is a class act.
May 31, 2008, 7:36:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
OTM must be joking about political parties that avoid debate
May 31, 2008, 7:44:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
He's blaming the media for his pastors hate speech going back 20 yrs. Very weak, to say the least.
May 31, 2008, 8:08:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
He must be, Vince... cause I have no idea what he's trying to talk about... or what he could possibly be thinking.
May 31, 2008, 8:09:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
The hecklers at the dnc d & p show added a nice touch to the "unity" 'otm' was referring to.
May 31, 2008, 8:12:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> OTM must be joking about political parties that avoid debate
I just thought he was talking about Keith Olbermann.
May 31, 2008, 8:24:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Figure this out......
All morning msnbc is live covering the dnc d & p show. A total bore if not for the hecklers.
Fox News goes with reg scheduled programs giving us updates on the afformentioned d & p show.
obama speaks live regarding the "pastor disaster" and msnbc goes with reg programming- prison/rape and murder.
Fox News airs obama's apology/explanation/resignation of the wonderful trinity church.
May 31, 2008, 8:31:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
I interupt the regular scheduled programming to bring you this BREAKING NEWS.
msnbc just gave obamas resignation from the wonderful trinity church a grand total of 20 seconds.
May 31, 2008, 8:35:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Really? MSNBC did not cover the Obama press conference live? That's amazing if true!
May 31, 2008, 8:42:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Right on cue, the dog pound is criticising Fox for NOT covering the snooze fest/d & p show.
May 31, 2008, 8:43:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
It's true, jd.
May 31, 2008, 8:44:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
MSNBC does not believe in denying the American people the chance to have Obama be selected President
May 31, 2008, 8:45:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Yep, I just checked my tivo. Fox covers Obama for nearly an hour live, while A-Mess-NBC airs a rerun of a stale true crime tabloid documentary.
'Nuff said.
May 31, 2008, 8:48:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> the dog pound is criticising Fox for NOT covering the snooze fest/d & p show.
Fox did cover it, just not gavel-to-gavel. There were multiple updates every hour. Perhaps you should ask them if they will do a "report" on how Fox covered Obama's press conference live while MSNBC was rerunning a tabloid crime show?
May 31, 2008, 8:50:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
johnny dollar | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:53 pm |
"Fox covers Obama for nearly an hour live"
My god,what did he talk about for an hour?
May 31, 2008, 8:51:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
All those reporters didn't have any trouble thinking up questions. They would've gone for another hour if Obama's guy hadn't said "last question". My only question: why did MSNBC, supposedly "the place for politics", chose not to cover this event? Could it be the same reason Olby chose not to cover anything about Fr Pfleger? Enquiring minds want to know!
May 31, 2008, 8:53:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
"nvh" has no problem with orangy giving hagee and mcclellan 60 minutes every night all week, but, heaven forbid Fox give obama a whole hour to explain himself!
May 31, 2008, 8:59:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
How well did he handle the questions.. was he all stuttering and defensive as usual?
May 31, 2008, 9:03:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On The Mark
Let's see, a visiting preacher makes remarks controversial to some (and, indeed, to me), and that is newsworthy? OK. It might be tangentially relevant. Akin to the man who screams at me (and everyone else) on 32nd and 8th, saying he's going to clobber me with a bat and put me in St. Vincent's. I suppose relevance must be akin to a question of taste. Some people have none, and others disagree. Maybe, MSNBC didn't think it was an earth-shattering development. MAybe, MSNBC thought it was of some passing importance but negated by the resignation. Maybe, FNC thought a great way to feed Hannity. Poetic license. Editorial discretion. Whatever. I'm not criticizing FNC for not airing the DNCRC meeting, and I won't criticize MSNBC for not waiving a bloody flag about.
May 31, 2008, 9:04:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
Obama gave that "Travelling" preacher 100,000 of State of Illinois tax payer money.. They are close asociates.
Whats' next, someone from the Klan?
May 31, 2008, 9:06:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
I'm not criticizing FNC for not airing the DNCRC meeting, and I won't criticize MSNBC for not waiving a bloody flag about.
On The Mark | 05.31.08 - 9:09 pm | #
>How could you?
"The Pastor Wright controversy turned into a positive for the nation"
by 'nvh'
>What?
May 31, 2008, 9:12:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
OTM your magnanimous approach is fine as far as it goes, but Sen Obama himself called a live press conference that went on for nearly an hour. HE thought it was newsworthy. All those reporters did too. And yet MSNBC somehow found that it wasn't. As you say, it could be just editorial judgment, but that ducks the question of whether there is a larger pattern to be seen.
May 31, 2008, 9:23:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On The Mark
With apologies to Vince and Mr. Sucks for turning the discussion back to cable news, I just stopped on O'Hannity for a bit. One would have thought it was as infomercial run by the Republican party in some semi-literate backwater state. Unmitigated, continuous, uninterrupted (except for a couple of doses of O'Hannity's gratuitous sanctimony) Barack bashing. You know what? No objection from me. FNC has a right to broadcast this, but please, a bit of intellectual honesty here. This is not the high road. This is not journalism. This is not even commentary. It is simple, ugly pandering which no doubt draws a huge audience.
I will add, however, O'Hannity is FNC at its lowest, so I won't judge the entire network by this show or by him. That would be akin to judging Fritos by the burnt, dark, rancid one that escaped the scoop after its first frying and sailed right past QC and into the bag.
May 31, 2008, 9:25:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On The Mark
As always, Johnny, your point is well-taken. Of course, at this time on a Saturday night only hopeless geeks like us would even notice.
May 31, 2008, 9:27:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
All the while, not the slightest hint of critcism of Olberthews nightly obamamercials. Shocker!
May 31, 2008, 9:35:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
With apologies to Vince and Mr. Sucks for turning the discussion back to cable news
by otm
How convenient.....
May 31, 2008, 9:37:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
So now what happens to the heavily-promoted "Porked" special that FNC was supposed to run at 8:00 pm? Will they run it at 10:00 pm? Or save it for a time when they can give it some fresh promotion?
May 31, 2008, 9:37:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On The Mark
... I'd opt for some fresh promotion. Maybe Doocy dressed like a carnival barker. That would draw in - a - a - a part of the viewing audience.
By the way, I say a small portion of your gal Julie's show today. I owe you and Julie an apology. She's not as vacuous as I once thought. I'd like to see her on a more sober show delivering some serious news. She might be able to pull it off.
May 31, 2008, 9:53:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
As OTM conceded a point to me, I shall concede one to him, at least in part. I don't especially care for Hannity's America. When the show began, it was supposed to feature Hannity debating with people of opposing viewpoints. That aspect seems to have been watered down and now most of the show is Hannity pontificating or taped pieces that generally support his viewpoint.
Just as I don't think Countdown is good journalism, I don't think Hannity's America cuts it in that regard either. It's really the FNC version of Countdown--except that it's a little less one-sided, not as cleverly written, and there's just one show each weekend instead of five shows during weeknight prime time.
It gets viewers so I suppose it will be around for a while. But I think they'd be better off getting back to the original concept of debating points of view--a description that still shows up in our cable system's electronic program guide.
Wow. I hope this doesn't make me the Fox viewer version of Scott McClellan!
May 31, 2008, 9:57:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Well my question above has been answered. "Porked" running at 10:00 pm.
May 31, 2008, 10:00:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On The Mark
With apologies for the thick syrupyness to follow: It makes you an FNC viewer with discretion and worthy of respect.
May 31, 2008, 10:01:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Yep, Porked is on now.
I like Hannity's America, but it's not my favorite show on FNC by far. Red Eye, O'Reilly, and Fox News Watch are much better. With nothing else to do, I'll watch H's A on time-lapse.
May 31, 2008, 10:08:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
A one hour press conference,and Fox aired it.Good for Fox! I'll read about it in the morning.
May 31, 2008, 10:21:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Full hour press conferences for both HRC and BHO have happened several times lately.
May 31, 2008, 10:32:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
I have news for OTM too..
I don't like Hannity, at all. You probably listen to him more than I do, sicne I never do.
May 31, 2008, 11:15:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Brutal Truth
My God there are only 5 people who comment on this site. How many years has this premier website been running now and there are only 5 people on it. So sad for all of you. Why don't you just call each other up instead of wasting so much time putting together this "site". When you are dying on your deathbed looking back at your career Johhny will this be your lifes work? Isn't there something better to do with your valuable hours on this planet.
May 31, 2008, 11:41:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
Just imagine.. an allegedly mature adult wrote the above.
May 31, 2008, 11:52:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
brutal liar isn't smart enough to figure out that there is only a half a dozen posters on his fav site, the dog pound. They each have a dozen names. They all say "Faux News," "Olbermahn rules," "Fux News" bla bla bla under different names.
May 31, 2008, 11:57:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
It's 11:46 PM on a Saturday night and a troll comes to a website and criticizes others regarding how they spend their time?...Brutal Truth, examine how you are spending your time. It's Saturday night, for goodness sake....Why are you online visiting sites you intend to only make jokes about? At least I'm suffering from some insomnia and decided to come on by and see what J$ had tonight...
Good article about Cooper's far superior job in finding out more indepth information from McClellan. Olbermann's interview was amateur hour like always.
The hits on the story regarding SNOBamessiah throwing his church community under the bus are huge at POLITICO, again showing the importance of the story. MSNBC not covering it properly once again shows their bias and lack of journalistic integrity.
June 1, 2008, 12:01:09 AM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Did Hannity actually use some portion of his hour after Sen Obama's press conference to bash Sen Obama?
Well then,I'll have to modify my"good for Fox" comment of 10:26 with a caveat.If Fox covered the entire press conference,not for the purpose of supplying information to their audience,but for the purpose of laying the groundwork for Hannity's smearing,then shame on them.
June 1, 2008, 8:20:05 AM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
My God there are only 5 people who comment on this site. How many years has this premier website been running now and there are only 5 people on it. So sad for all of you. Why don't you just call each other up instead of wasting so much time putting together this "site". When you are dying on your deathbed looking back at your career Johhny will this be your lifes work? Isn't there something better to do with your valuable hours on this planet.
Brutal Truth | 05.31.08 - 11:46 pm | #
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Brutal, What you dont like about this site is that we speak the truth dealing with facts. You cant argue facts, so you attack and come out with hate filled BS. Which I might add is the norm for "loving liberals". This site is most active during the evening. The reason is that we are mostly conservatives and we are working during the day. I think that you would enjoy yourself over at News Hounds. There is more than enough hate over there for you to feed off of.
June 1, 2008, 10:06:47 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> Did Hannity actually use some portion of his hour after Sen Obama's press conference to bash Sen Obama?
Hannity's hour was prerecorded a day or two earlier. Yeah he was critical of Obama but it had nothing to do with the press conference.
June 1, 2008, 10:15:29 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Why don't you just call each other up instead of wasting so much time putting together this "site". - Brutal Truth
If we called each other up, there would be no history to prove/disprove that people like Brutal Truth posited such vacuous and hateful thoughts. Plus, we wouldn't be graced with his valuable input.
June 1, 2008, 10:21:12 AM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
johnny dollar | Homepage | 06.01.08 - 10:20 am |
Ok,thanx,JD.Didn't know,and the transcripts weren't up.
June 1, 2008, 10:35:57 AM EDT – Like – Reply
