'That Is a Guy Who Picks on People's Children'
J$P Video! Steve Doocy tells off Keith Olbermann:
From Fox & Friends, May 20 2008 fox news keith doocy msnbc
Mike Chimeri
The video and audio are out of sync.
May 20, 2008, 3:03:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I KNOW! Youtube's fault, not mine. I'm re-uploading to see if that will fix it.
May 20, 2008, 3:13:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Hooray, audio fixed!
May 20, 2008, 3:28:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
It doesn't look fixed, and therefore isn't fixed at OlbyWatch either.
May 20, 2008, 3:42:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
OK it WAS definitely fixed. Now it's off again. Definitely a youtube issue, but I don't know how to deal with it. I can try uploading a third time I suppose. But that might go bad too.
May 20, 2008, 3:57:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
All right, third upload. Maybe third time's the charm. It's in sync now. Let's see how it is a half hour from now.
May 20, 2008, 4:18:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Missy
Well, just listen to it without watching.
Anyway, I had no idea that that moron named young Doocy WPITW until I heard Steve Doocy's rant this a.m. How DARE Olbermann go after a guy's kid?
The kid said nothing political; it was just light-hearted questioning. Keith is as low as they come.
May 20, 2008, 4:23:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
It's gone out of sync again. I'm going to try uploading a different format video and see if that helps.
May 20, 2008, 4:29:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Well this is the 4th upload. If this doesn't stay in sync then I give up!
May 20, 2008, 4:43:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
Lets not pay too mutch attention to it being in sync. Doosy's message was clear pertaining to his outrage that MSNBC, specifically Keith Olberman has taken yet another step lower, and is now attacking the children of Fox News. In other words, I hate your father, therefore I hate you. Each time I wonder how much lower Olberman can get, he manages to surprise me again.
May 20, 2008, 4:45:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
C'mon, tony. Were yu REALLY surprised in the least?
May 20, 2008, 5:21:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
tom
No wonder GE is having trouble if Jack Welch was running GE KO would have been KO. You dont attack children.
May 20, 2008, 5:44:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
The chorus of KO critics is growing exponentially and I thinks his days/weeks may be numbered as GE & NBC suit's look for a way out of this messnbc nightmare. I said it here first on J$, we'll see what happens. I also think other NBC news stars find this stuff from Oby embarrassing, though they will keep quiet in public.
May 20, 2008, 6:09:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
that should read "I think"
May 20, 2008, 6:10:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox and Fiends
Wah wah wah why isn't doocey's kid off fightinging Islamofascists?
May 20, 2008, 7:41:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Question: What do Islamofascists and the above poster have in common?
May 20, 2008, 9:19:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Can slobber face make a single comment w/out saying "race?"
"Hillary had all white people behind her during her speech." slobbr face
I've seen countless obama speeches with all blacks behind him. Did the drooler ever metion that? The orange faced hack/political expert thinks he with the most money qualifies you to be president. Now, that's an analytical team if I've ever seen one!
May 20, 2008, 9:22:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
"You dont attack children."
Graeme Frost would have been happy to hear that.
May 21, 2008, 7:14:33 AM EDT – Like – Reply
sharm
GF was not attacked, but his parents. You got that backwards.
May 21, 2008, 8:07:46 AM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
If a political party is desperate enough to send a boy to do a mans job, then the boy is fair game.
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/08/graeme-frost-and-the-perils-of-democrat-poster-child-abuse/
.If Michele wanted to go after his parents,why did she put Graemes name in the title of her article.
Now before anyone runs off with "two wrongs don't make a right" or "apples and oranges',I think Keith's WPITW piece was tasteless and stupid.Young Doocy is not a child,and I'm sure would resent being refered to as such.
But I do think that Keith crossed the line.
I also think that Doocy's kid asking an inane question was,well,inane.And Fox and Doocy using the footage was also rather lame (Would you encourage your kid to appear foolish on national TV).And there are much more important things to talk about.
In sum,I think this pissing match between O'Reilly,Keith,Fox and NBC is a ploy for ratings and a waste of the viewers time.
May 21, 2008, 8:32:45 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Kris
Hey "Fox and Friends" why aren't you out fighting the "Islamofascists"?
May 21, 2008, 9:30:57 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Daytona
Don't put your kid on TV if they can't take the heat. Any idiot would know that. He's 20. Why isn't he in Iraq right now?
May 21, 2008, 11:26:05 AM EDT – Like – Reply
don
Does anyone have the transcript or video of Olbermann's rant against Doocey's kid? I've searched and searched on MSNBC and can't find it. What was the date the feature aired? I'd like to see exactly what Olbermann said.
May 21, 2008, 11:43:52 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Missy
Don, here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMwFCp6Es3w
J$, I read that you didn't want us posting links, but this is the source of all the trouble. Plus, I am just responding to Don.
Also, KO is whining about something other than what I thought - I was under the impression he was p*ssed about Doocy's question on the Harball college tour. But it doesn't matter. Keith could go crazy over someone ordering a meal at McDonalds.
May 21, 2008, 11:57:39 AM EDT – Like – Reply
don
Thanks, Missy. So now in watching the 2 Doocey segments (young Doocey asking McCain to do a shot and young Doocey conducting a panel discussion with the sole purpose of asking one question and rehashing the Reverend Wright-Obama ties), and then Olbermann's piece, don't you think li'l Doocey is fair game? He didn't ask for a general opinion on Rev. Wright and his impact on their voting, he went much further. I also doubt he had any intention of asking a similar question about McCain and his ties to that Haege cat or Falwell and Robertson. So contrived and misleading. Maybe not WPITW, but def' a total tool, the both of them.
May 21, 2008, 12:15:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> and young Doocey conducting a panel discussion
You watched that segment? The whole thing, all the questions and all the answers? Or you watched Olbermann cherry picking one question without any of the reactions, exchanges, or other parts of the two segments of Q&A Doocy did with the Villanova students?
In other words, did you see what actually was broadcast, or only what Keith wanted you to see?
May 21, 2008, 12:26:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
I saw the segment in real time as it was broadcast live and your statement is factually WRONG, or as "some people" would screech a LYING LIE. I know. That was a nasty way to put it but I recently spent a few hours with the curs at the Kennel and my deprogramming is not complete yet.
Face it. KO uses his air time to personally beat up on any he perceives as his enemies or standing in his way to his just due as the new and improved Edward R Murrow . He is not particular at all about the truth of it but if it serves to build himself up at the expense of others irregardless of the facts or significance he will wallow down in the dirt while he aimlessly throws it.
May 21, 2008, 12:58:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
" If a political party is desperate enough to send a boy to do a mans job, then the boy is fair game." MM
You are comparing apples and oranges.
The DNC found, recruited and put forth front and center nationally on multiple media outlets the young boy and his family's story that went on for several days.
Steeve Doocy used his influence at his workplace, after he got some media attention for his question at Villanova ? to get his young man/boy son some face time on a popular morning show It would have ended there except for KO. He is incapable of letting any opportunity, no matter how far fetched, to pass any chance by to stick it to his perceived oppressors through any conduit.
I didn't read Malkin's piece but I think the particulars about the boy were out of bounds while the status and decisions his parents made were fair game. The Dems exposed them to the scrutiny and it would be totally unreasonable to not expect others to question the lesson that his story purported to illustrate.
May 21, 2008, 1:21:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
don
My apologies. I see my comment and others were taken down. I wasn't meaning to cause a ruckus. I'll still read this blog, fo shizzy.
May 21, 2008, 2:30:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
don
I watched all three segments of li'l Petey D, Olbermann's WPITW rebuttal, and then Steve D's rebuttal. Olbermann's 'bit' is to attack Fox. I get that. Doocey's lashing back is no different. 'He attacks people's kids.' No, he attacked your budding pundit of a son. Li'l Petey D wasn't asking light hearted, feel-good feature questions, he was going with the 'talking points.' I send my 3-yr-old off to pre-school every day with talking points and if he can dish it, I expect him to take it. I'm just sayin'.
May 21, 2008, 2:37:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
""... Fox News is composed of underhanded jackasses who will do just about anything to promote the conservative agenda?"
notveryhow | 05.21.08 - 7:38 am | # "
I am not quite sure what you mean.
First, J$ never deletes for the opinions expressed unless it is expressed profanely or is a personal attack on other posters here.
Second, when he does he replaces either that part of the comment or the entire with a "message deleted". I have never seen a comment here @ J$P erased with no record of it having ever existed.
May 21, 2008, 2:41:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
don
As soon as I commented, again, the recent comments showed up. My bad.
May 21, 2008, 2:42:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> I see my comment and others were taken down.
No comments have been removed. What are you talking about?
May 21, 2008, 2:43:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> I read that you didn't want us posting links
No, I have nothing against posting links. I do not like, however, when people post the same links that I have posted in the main article. That becomes duplicative.
May 21, 2008, 2:43:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> he was going with the 'talking points.'
How are questions like "Why are you supporting Obama" or asking if McCain's age is going to hurt him in the election... how are such questions "going with the talking points"? Unless you say he was going with Obama's talking points.
May 21, 2008, 2:50:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
J$, I am having some difficulties every once in a while with the comment sections.
May 21, 2008, 2:55:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Isn't WPITW sort of like O'Rielly's pin-ups and pin-heads or whatever it's called?WPITW always seemed somewhat tongue in cheek MOST of the time,as I assume the pin portion to be.Or are they different somehow?
Grammie | 05.21.08 - 1:26 pm |
I read a blog post at Redstate about Graeme Frost and his family that would have curled your hair.Something about the family swinging from lampposts and eaten by ravens.The Baltimore Sun even picked it up.
As for politicians using children to make a point,how about the "snowflake babies" that Pres Bush appeared with.Would it have been right for blogs to pummel them and their family,investigate and lie about the familys's house and income,as happened with Graeme Frost and his family.
It was one of the cruelest displays of partisan rancor I have ever seen,and I remember Nixon.
And a question,we're not supposed to post links?
May 21, 2008, 2:57:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Grammie, Haloscan has been burping last night and today. They go off, then come back, then the counts gets screwed up. I've had to ask Haloscan to reset the counts twice already! These things come in spurts and then generally settle down after a bit.
May 21, 2008, 2:58:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Got my answer on the links.Thanx,JD.
May 21, 2008, 2:58:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
don
J$,
li'l Petey didn't ask "why are you supporting Obama" and, instead, asked "how do you suppose he'll change when he can't even change churches after hearing what his pastor said" and something else. I'm paraphrasing, now. He didn't even ask something less pointed like "do you think Obama's pastor's remarks have hurt his chances?" His question contained the opinion and 'talking point' all in one. Is he asking if they think Obama can truly change or if he should change his church, or that he should further admonish Rev. Wright? Pete Doocey purposely and knowingly inserted himself into the punditry world and my point is that he deserves his lumps. Olbermann didn't mention that dorky pumpkin pie haircut Pete was sporting, so he obviously wasn't simply attacking for attackings sake.
Olbermann's a tool, too. Don't get me wrong. They're all tools.
May 21, 2008, 3:08:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> li'l Petey didn't ask "why are you supporting Obama"
He didn't? Did I not read you saying just a few msgs above that you watched both the segments with him and the Villanova students? And you come back with--surprise!--the ONE QUESTION that happened to be highlighted by the blue blogs, and then cherry-picked again by Olbermann?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. I was under the impression that you had watched both of these segments in full. Perhaps you can post the links to where you watched them, everyone can view them in full, and then see for themselves exactly what all the questions and answers were.
May 21, 2008, 3:22:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
don
Good lord. What is this? Here's one...
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/16/hitting-the-sauce-part-2/
May 21, 2008, 3:28:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
That is neither the first nor the second Villanova Q&A with students that you were talking about. Where are the two segments of THAT which you claim you watched?
May 21, 2008, 3:30:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
don
Here's the other...
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=971
May 21, 2008, 3:33:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Well that is, at most, half the story, because it's just a portion of the Villanova discussion. The second part went on to discuss McCain. And as I recall there was a wrap-up segment with the students at the very end of the show (actually that would make THREE segments total).
So how was his questioning about Obama any diffrerent than his questioning about McCain?
May 21, 2008, 3:45:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
don
If everyone watches the second link above, I'm sure you can all judge for yourself that Pete Doocey is not an innocent victim of Olbermann's wrath. His question was pointed in the masterful way Fox asks questions.
May 21, 2008, 3:45:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Let's try again: how is it any different from the questions he asked about McCain?
May 21, 2008, 3:46:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
don
As I said, he (Peter) interjects opinion and politics into the Obama questions. Its obvious. I can't track down the 2nd segment but I wanted to watch it again to see if maybe I missed something. I'm certain, however, he did not ask about McCain's ties to Pat Robertson and that hateful Hagee. I'm happy to post those clips if you haven't seen McCain happily accepting the endorsement of these fear and hate mongers.
Again, Peter Doocey, with what he did and what he asked, made himself fair game. Olbermann is a jack-A in many other ways, but its not like he was attacking a little boy scout who was simply doing a class project.
May 21, 2008, 3:51:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Well, McCain could hardly be asked about changing churches since, to my knowledge, he was never a member of their churches. And your clips of McCain accepting endorsements would be irrelevant to any cable news issue so don't bother posting links to that.
You object to his "pointed" questions about Obama (because pointed questions are apparently a journalistic evil for some reason) but then when he asks about McCain's age, well, that doesn't matter. The rule apparently is: pointed questions about Obama: Bad. Pointed questions about McCain: Irrelevant.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but there's a reason the blue blogs that were Olbermann's source only focused on the questions re Obama and not those re McCain. My only point is, cherry-picking one question out of more than a dozen as proof of something or other is anecdotal meaninglessness. Questions asked OF Obama in the debates were just as pointed as that one question (out of a dozen) P Doocy asked.
May 21, 2008, 3:57:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
don
Obviously we're arguing two different things. I'm arguing that Pete Doocey and father Steve are not victims and Olbermann isn't needlessly bullying them. Olbermann wasn't stretching to go after Fox's newest pundit.
My point ...don't vilify Olbermann for attacking poor li'l Pete Doocey. Grandma Midwesterly is going to watch Steve Doocey attack Olbermann and then tell her friends at the knitting circle that, "that Kent Olbermann is just horrible. I heard he said horrible things about Steve Doocey's son." You know old ladies won't get the names right, or the facts. They'll just imagine that mean old Kieth was making fun of Steve's son because he's overweight or a late bloomer. They won't realize Peter opened himself up.
I won't argue MSNBC, ABC, and Fox all ask different questions in different ways to their horse in the race. That's all. I can't wait for the next topic.
May 21, 2008, 4:12:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
don
I should also point out that Aunt Soccermom will also misconstrue Olbermann's commentary on the Doocey's and will likely tell her bridge club that Fox News, "just hates Obama for no reason and now they even have their kids spewing the talking points."
Nobody watches it all. But I do.
May 21, 2008, 4:14:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
"I rarely watch olbermahn and don't really care much for him." Mrs. P
LOL!
May 21, 2008, 4:18:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
I just posted on the OW site. Olbermann is the new TOKYO ROSE(those of you who are too young to remember World War II, just google Tokyo Rose to be filled in).
We should all call NBC and ask why the employe TOKYO ROSE aka Keith Olbermann to hate our troops.
May 21, 2008, 4:38:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
RJ
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May 21, 2008, 6:11:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
RJ
You put your freakin' kid on TV, dumass.
If he can't take the heat, keep him off TV.
That wasn't so hard, was it?
Doocy may be the stupidest man on TV.
May 21, 2008, 6:14:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Actually, RJ, Keith Olbermann long ago won the World Wide Stupidest Man on TV belt and it's been soldered around his girth.
Let me assure you that we have heard your brilliant and insightful mantra, essentially chanting that the only thing germane to the discussion is that someone who hosts a cable news show let their kid go on tv to poll a college audience and this therefore made the kid fair game.
As compelling as it is for you to repeat and to repeat this statement in the face of any other objection...it may come as a shock to you that it is not the all-purpose answer you wish it to be.
Yes, RJ, there are other considerations here. If they're too much for you to wrap your mind around, I suggest you take an excedrin and take them slowly over the next couple of days...
There actually is the question of whether it's particularly fitting for a journalist to suggest that young Doocey's question itself was so partisan that he is pegged merely for asking it. Particularly when the journalist's colleagues have asked the question too. And since it is an obvious and logical question-- if Obama condemns his pastor's extreme beliefs, why did he continue to attend his church for 20 years and logical too to ask an audience if they feel Obama's response to it has been plausible, don't Olbermann's objections to this question peg Olbermann rather than Doocey? Doesn't this mountain out of a molehil response expose him?
RJ, don't Olbermann's objections show him to be someone who isn't just partisan to extent of wanting the most trivial of punches pulled for a political candidate, but more to the point, someone who is willing to take a very personal animus towards an old employer and professional competitor to the point that is beyond petty and firmly planted into the territory of spiteful opportunism and vengeful hatred.
Yes, it does, RJ, and all the chanting that the kid was fair game, doesn't change that. Olbermann's willingness not to "punch up" but to storm full throttle into the most puffy of puff piece morning segments in order to gleefully smack the son of a Fox employer, says all there is to say about the man.
I'm afraid that's a consideration you've missed, RJ. Other's haven't.
May 21, 2008, 8:16:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
U.S.S. Nixon
Keith loves children... In his bed
May 22, 2008, 1:54:57 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Daytona
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May 26, 2008, 6:16:21 AM EDT – Like – Reply
gayle
I agree on Olberman...he is arounf 60 and his girlfriend is 23. I sure wouldn't want him around my young girls!
May 26, 2008, 10:54:04 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Nikiki
This is Fox Channel, the same people that resurface old news as news. Racists pieces of stuff that refuse to go where they belong. Bill O'Reilly sexually harassed someone going into his 60s, (currently 58 years old) back in 2004 he was 55 harassing a then 23 year old former Fox News Television Producer. Then Bill spouts off about how an 11 year old had fun being kidnapped because it was a lot more fun than what he had under his own parents. That plus his scandal, what appeared to be him creaming his pants when he was asking Amy Polumbo about her sexy photos, then throw in Miley Cyrus conference that he wanted to hold. That now that would should make mothers and fathers alike protect their kids from O'Reilly.
Just for the record gayle, Olbermann is 49 so him being 60 was way off course. Oh I don't know about 11 years.
May 30, 2008, 9:55:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Gen Escape Goat- Old Style Dry
"I just posted on the OW site. Olbermann is the new TOKYO ROSE(those of you who are too young to remember World War II, just google Tokyo Rose to be filled in).
We should all call NBC and ask why the employe TOKYO ROSE aka Keith Olbermann to hate our troops.
tony | 05.21.08 - 4:43 pm | # "
So are you like 70 years old?
May 30, 2008, 11:05:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Nikiki
LOL bringing up hate our troops crap. I know people Didn't see the clarification that was made. Olbermann was quoting something BUSH himself had said. LMAO at OW that site is a flat out joke OW and KO haters cherry pick and make it to be real. Way to go goes to show FTC (The T is no mistake) l viewers enjoyed being lied to.
Is who like 70 years old?
May 30, 2008, 11:34:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Gen Escape Goat- Old Style Dry
Tony,
she remembers Tokyo Rose. She suggested that those that don't, to google it.
May 30, 2008, 11:48:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
