3/3/09 1:21 PM

Fox Haters Week in Review

Updated with reaction from Dr Marc Lamont Hill.

This is the Fox Haters Week in Review, where we catch up on some of the distortions, lies, and smears that may have slipped under the radar over the past seven days.

Meet the Old Lie, Same as the New Lie
Keith Olbermann is rarely one to correct a falsehood; he is far more likely to repeat it. So it's no surprise that when he took off on Bill O'Reilly for speculating that NBC paid for an interview, Edward R Olbermann just had to kick it up a notch:

Fox scrubbed its transcript of O‘Reilly‘s show to make it look like O‘Reilly didn‘t say she was paid by NBC to do the interview, but as if he was actually said she was made by NBC to do the interview. Sleaze bags.
What Olby doesn't mention is that Fox transcripts aren't done by Fox; Fox doesn't own them or even hold the copyright. They are done by an outside company that claims sole responsibility for the accuracy (CQ Transcriptions)--which just happens to be the same company that prepares transcriptions of...Countdown with Keith Olbermann! Olby is in the business, so he knows that Fox didn't "scrub its transcript". If all this sounds familiar, it's because Olby used this same smear before. It was a lie then, and it's a lie now.

Monomania
We haven't done a post about the newshounds (another fine product of the Outfoxed cabal) for over a week. But things are different over at the kennel, where the hound discussion forum has started no fewer than ten topics about this site in as many eleven days. In the midst of this preoccupation with J$P, we noticed that Ellen QB jumped in as well. Writing in the most recent of the ten topics, Ms Brodsky served up this staggeringly un-self-aware masterpiece of irony:
  • It's getting creepy how obsessed he is with us. Posted by: Ellen

The Loony Bin
If you've ever wondered what Fox Derangement Syndrome looks like, you need to savor this gem from the intellectual giants at O'Reilly Sucks. It's from two weeks back, but we didn't have a 'week in review' last week so we saved it for today. The moral: even if you're one of the most respected commentators on any cable news channel (and one of the most liberal), don't you dare appear with Bill O'Reilly. And if you do, expect a puerile tantrum in return:
Let me tell you something about Dr. [Marc Lamont] Hill. The so-called Democrat. I wrote him one time and asked if I could have him ask O'Reilly a question once in a while. He wrote me back and said sure, no problem. So I sent him a couple questions to ask O'Reilly, but he never asked them. So I wrote back to him a couple times to ask why, and he never returned my e-mails, none of them. I am guessing he was too afraid to ask Billy the questions I wanted answered. My guess would be that he is afraid if he asked Billy a tough question O'Reilly would kick him off the show, and he would lose his tv time on the #1 cable news show. So in my book Dr. Hill is a sell out coward of a fake Democrat, who just wants to kiss Billy's ass so he can stay on tv.

Time Sure Knows How to Pick 'Em
What do these sites have in common: Huffington Post, Andrew Sullivan, Crooks & Liars? Answer: they have all been named among the 25 best blogs of 2009. Oh, they have something else in common too. They all ran with and published as true the phony Gibson/scrotum doctored tape. How many of these "best blogs" fact-checked and verified the story before rushing to publicize it? Zero.

Tolerance and Understanding
Our racial tolerance moment of the week comes from Crooks and Liars. And you know that theirs must have been a worthy, intellectual sentiment, as it was expressed on one of the world's "25 best blogs". Never fear, it's exactly what you might expect:
  • Juan "token good negro" Williams actually compared O'Reilly's mean spiritness to comedic icons Richard Prior and Lenny Bruce. What's it like living a complete lie, Juan? From what I know about "uncle toms" like Williams, if I were white I'd never believe a word that liar says.

Spot something you'd like to see in the next Fox Haters Week in Review? Send us an email. If we use your submission you will receive a genuine attribution!

UPDATE: Dr Marc Lamont Hill posted his reaction to the O'Reilly Sucks attack in the comments, and we thought it deserved more prominence as an update to this post:
The last time I checked, I am the most left-wing guest on Fox News by FAR. Furthermore, I am probably the most left-wing regular contributor on any major network. Somehow, because I don't agree that it's a venal sin to make fun of Helen Thomas, I'm a covert Republican? Furthermore, this guy is upset because I didn't read his questions to me on live television? First, the network calls me with topics, not the other way around. As such, I cannot randomly pose questions to the HOST of a show. Second, most of the questions are neither original nor appropriate for television. Finally, I literally receive 1000 emails a week from people, many of whom ask me to pose questions to Bill O'Reilly. I'm a secret agent of Karl Rove because I didn't answer this one schmuck? Come on! This is the ridiculous, cult-like stupidity that makes the left look disorganized and self-destructive. --Marc Lamont Hill




Paleo Pat
Let me tell you something about Dr. [Marc Lamont] Hill. The so-called Democrat. I wrote him one time and asked if I could have him ask O'Reilly a question once in a while. He wrote me back and said sure, no problem. So I sent him a couple questions to ask O'Reilly, but he never asked them. So I wrote back to him a couple times to ask why, and he never returned my e-mails, none of them. I am guessing he was too afraid to ask Billy the questions I wanted answered. My guess would be that he is afraid if he asked Billy a tough question O'Reilly would kick him off the show, and he would lose his tv time on the #1 cable news show. So in my book Dr. Hill is a sell out coward of a fake Democrat, who just wants to kiss Billy's ass so he can stay on tv.
 
Whew! Some rough stuff there! :lol:
February 22, 2009, 5:43:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


Observer Dan
I need a Silkwood shower( you know, with a wire brush). I just perused some of the newshounds stuff for the 1st and last time. Holy Yikes!  
The glaring question needs to be asked. Who is the genius that decided "crapper watch" is a synonym for "Olbermann watch"?
Let me just say, I couldn't agree more.  
Keep up the good work J$!
February 22, 2009, 6:09:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


john t
" But things are different over at the kennel, where the hound discussion forum has started no fewer than ten topics about this site in as many days."
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You accused me of lying earlier. But your statement right there is an outright lie. Show where 10 topics about you have been started in the last 10 days.
February 22, 2009, 6:19:32 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
There are ten links in that sentence. Follow them. But you are technically correct in that they weren't started in ten days. It was eleven. Aha! A LIE!!! I shall make the correction. Thank you for reading J$P.
February 22, 2009, 6:22:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Marc Lamont Hill
The last time I checked, I am the most left-wing guest on Fox News by FAR. Furthermore, I am probably the most left-wing regular contributor on any major network. Somehow, because I don't agree that it's a venal sin to make fun of Helen Thomas, I'm a covert Republican? Furthermore, this guy is upset because I didn't read his questions to me on live television? First, the network calls me with topics, not the other way around. As such, I cannot randomly pose questions to the HOST of a show. Second, most of the questions are neither original nor appropriate for television. Finally, I literally receive 1000 emails a week from people, many of whom ask me to pose questions to Bill O'Reilly. I'm a secret agent of Karl Rove because I didn't answer this one schmuck? Come on! This is the ridiculous, cult-like stupidity that makes the left look disorganized and self-destructive.
February 22, 2009, 8:33:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Well spoken, Dr Hill, and thank you for commenting. I really enjoy your sparring with O'Reilly, and you were on fire with Huckabee this weekend!
February 22, 2009, 9:03:41 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
He is so "publicity averse" that now he is bitching about how many threads include him as part of the topic, but JB$ is reaching a new low, a Jeffy-Bovine-stupid low.
 
Let me illustrate for you JB$, as you are too Jeffy-Bovine-stupid to understand what you did.
 
Let's say, I start a thread about Jeffy-Bovine-stupid, er, JB$ entitled:
"JB$ and his young stud lover Futt Bace"  
 
by aap
 
Sorry, patty cakes. I'm taking that as a great compliment!
 
Thanks, patsy!
February 22, 2009, 9:14:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Mr. Hill, I love it when you are on O'Reilly, too. I don't often agree with you, but, you always put forth ideas or comments that make me think and are sensible. I also appreciate the fact you don't try to shout Bill down or talk over each other for the moist part.
 
I also think a comment from you would look very nice right under John Gibsons "Thank God for Johnny Dollar" in the upper right hand corner.
February 22, 2009, 9:23:16 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.22.09 - 9:28 pm | #
 
How about this one- "I'm a secret agent of Karl Rove- Dr. Marc Lamont Hill"
 
Jokes aside, what a presence to grace J$P! You have a few fans here, Dr. Hill.
February 22, 2009, 9:43:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Cute little puppies wagging their tails they are not, Dan.
 
I just found these two comments over there from Johnny's first link:
 
"Johnny Dollar eats Poo Poo!!  
_________________
"You can’t see love, hope, or Faith but they are the most important things and we all know they are real."  
 
-Michael  
Posted by: Captain America on Sat 2.21 9:55pm  
 
Johnny Dollar eats Os POO POO  
Posted by: Michael Weston on Sat 2.21 10:35pm "
 
Michael Weston used to comment over here for a while. He didn't use his obvious talent for superior repartee and logical argument over here like that comment demonstrates.
 
I ask this question seriously. Exactly how old are these jerks? Is Johnny violating some type Of Mann Act by allowing these potty mouthed little boys comment here?
February 22, 2009, 9:56:55 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Dr Hill, I also enjoy hearing you on Fox.
 
Now, if I could just manage to convert you to the "right" way I'd enjoy you even more.
February 22, 2009, 10:05:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Didn't Michael Weston admit to being Patrick around the time J$ disabled commenting?
February 22, 2009, 10:10:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
You are correct. He admitted it over at the pound as well.
February 22, 2009, 10:24:57 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
I just read that thread. They sound like a bunch of fifth graders gloating how they trashed the Boys Room at school except that no fifth grader I ever knew has that foul a mouth. Enen the, ahem, ladies.
 
OS, I owe you an apology. I thought for sure that you had misjudged the creep, MT. You were right and again I was taken in. I guess my Mama was right when she told me I damn well better get cynical if I wanted to live as long as she had (she died several years ago at age 100 and still feisty up till the end).
February 22, 2009, 11:16:47 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Bababooey (Nickname of Howard Stern Show producer Gary Dell’ Abate), Michael Todd (Liz Taylor's 3 of 8), Michael Weston (USA Network's 'Burn' lead actor) and a few others are P. Heckman.
February 23, 2009, 12:43:43 AM EST – Like – Reply


THe Factor
Wow, the News Liars are so devoid of smears and attacks against Fox News that they have resorted to attacking J$ and even the poster on J$ site. Cecilia should be proud that she got her very own thread on News Liars.
February 23, 2009, 12:51:17 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
No need to apologize, Grammie. Giving people the benefit of the doubt is a good thing. Knowing exactly how long to give them the benefit is another.  
February 23, 2009, 12:57:56 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Michael Weston (USA Network's 'Burn' lead actor)"
 
Actually that's the character name, and Patrick misspells it (it's Westen). The show is 'Burn Notice' and the actor is Jeffrey Donovan. Easily the best show on USA cable.
February 23, 2009, 1:10:18 AM EST – Like – Reply


john t
Wow, the News Liars are so devoid of smears and attacks against Fox News that they have resorted to attacking J$ and even the poster on J$ site. Cecilia should be proud that she got her very own thread on News Liars.
THe Factor | 02.23.09 - 12:56 am  
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Do you see any hypocrisy in your comment?
February 23, 2009, 1:34:46 AM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Thanks for the correction. That would make more sense....pretending to be an ex-spy is a more titillating fantasy then being an actor.
February 23, 2009, 2:03:25 AM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Good thing you wimked at me there, OS.   
 
I absolutely love Burn Notice. Whenever I watch I am struck anew by how much it reminds of thar great series, Maverick.
February 23, 2009, 2:17:45 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Cecilia should be proud that she got her very own thread on News Liars.
THe Factor | 02.23.09 - 12:56 am | #  
 
oh, don't leave out the best part, The Factor.  
 
The NH denizens got to be lectured on the importance of de-emphasizing female sexual attributes in order to place more value upon a woman's intelligence and ingenuity, by a guy who had just labeled me a slut.
 
That no one there gleaned the slightest contradiction in this is just the air they breath at News Clowns...  
February 23, 2009, 9:35:49 AM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
"The Official And Only Johnny Dollar'Mark Koldys Thread
 
>
 
Although I can't think of anyone who deserves to be criticized more than internet harasser Mark Koldys a/k/a Johnny Dollar, I don't want to pollute our forum too much with multiple threads. So let's have one "official" thread where we can post all things about Koldys/Dollar.
 
This way, those who would rather step around him can easily do so but those who want to give him a dose of his own medicine can keep him hyperventilating 'til Kingdom Come!
 
Posted by: Ellen on Tue 2.24 2:07pm
Thanks Ellen. "
 
Let me try a version of Hannity's "Lib er al" translation.
 
Johnny hoisted us on our own petard by documenting thread by thread (10 in 11 days) our obsession with him and his fans.
 
We don't want to be embarassed by him like that again EVER!
 
So we'll make up this story that it is neater and some of our Mongr uh Hounds hate to wade through such unpleasant stuff so we'll put it in one place so they can avert their eyes.
 
http://forum.newshounds.us/viewtopic.php?t=26518
February 24, 2009, 9:46:58 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
And just to show how how obsessed J$ is with THEM, they made the thread a "sticky" one, so it's always right on the top of the page.
 
The phrase 'sick puppies' coms to mind.
February 24, 2009, 10:12:23 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
So we'll make up this story that it is neater and some of our Mongr uh Hounds hate to wade through such unpleasant stuff so we'll put it in one place so they can avert their eyes.
 
http://forum.newshounds.us/viewt...pic.php? t=26518
Grammie | 02.24.09 - 9:51 pm | #  
 
On the money!
February 25, 2009, 7:27:26 PM EST – Like – Reply


dbutler
I don't post here regularly, but I read the site often. I had never bothered to read Crooks and Liars or Newshounds, I had heard how they were childish flame throwers. I could not believe how incredibly childish, sexist, racist, and ignorant the articles and posters there actually were. This is an embarassment to anyone on the left, people like Dr. ML Hill, who are intelligent, and can have civil dialog. I swear, if it was me, I would never use my real name there, and would never want anyone to know I posted there. Are these sites mostly inhabited by 20 somethings? It is the only thing I can deduce after reading the horribly spelled and epitet laden screeds.
February 26, 2009, 12:38:11 AM EST – Like – Reply