Monday Links and Open Thread
Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:
MSNBC abandons 10:00 pm plans. ICN analysis.
Video: O'Reilly on The View.
Friday's numbers: Fox sweeps!
Beck replaces Greta?!?
Why FNC thrives.
Fox Nation launches: ICN, Kurtz, Chickaboomer, Portfolio.
Profiles: Megyn Kelly, Glenn Beck (NY Times). Q&A: Tucker.
O'Reilly Q&A: NBC lied. More.
Cable's political fever.
Why Ratigan quit.
Youtube numbers.
Hot & Not. Vote: Chris v Chris.
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cee
A nice write-up in the "establishment" paper of record, even if their shrinking numbers of readers could not care less about what many Americans are thinking and watching.
The stats are tremendous. Over a million viewers at any given time for FNC, DOUBLE that of MSNBC and CNN.
The O'Reilly Q&A provides more redmeat for the left's attack on the IT HAPPENED TO ALEXA FOUNDATION. U must agree with the difference between his dealing with the situation and Olbermann's personal attacks....
"There is no feud. I have never mentioned the mans (Olbermann's) name in my life and will never mention it. There is no feud. Theres no nemesis. All there is coming out of NBC are attacks on the Fox News Channel. [Jeff] Zucker allows it to happen. All we do is point out what they do. We dont attack them personally. So theres no feud. Thats inaccurate. Thats the way the media wants to play it."
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Aw, poor Olbermann still is not getting the results he wants for the continuing personal attacks....What a loser.
O'Reilly does stick to the issues while Olbermann only engages is immature and hateful personal attacks.
The irresponsible way the left handled the charity fund raiser and their attempt with the false outrage over Terkel's interview was also pathetic.
March 30, 2009, 8:09:23 AM EDT – Like – Reply
flindycon
From THR.com interview with O'Reilly:
THR: What do you think of Keith Olbermann?
O'Reilly: We win that time slot by an enormous amount, so I don't need to think about him.
LOL! The ultimate put down, stated so simply, so eloquently. Now, we know why Olbermann reacts to O'Reilly. He has too. Putz.
Thanks for that link $. It made my day!
March 30, 2009, 8:51:46 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Re: O'Reilly Q&A: NBC lied.
This is interesting:
Amanda Terkel from Think Progress [who wrote the initial blog about OReillys keynote at the It Happened to Alexa Foundation] said she felt threatened by your producer.
Did you see the clip?
I did.
Did she look threatened to you?
Not really
See, sometimes youve got to go with what you see.
She also said you didnt invite her on The OReilly Factor.
We contacted that Website. We heard nothing.
March 30, 2009, 9:47:12 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Here you go folks.
Congratulations fro spreading the word.
http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2009/03/28/far-left-site-posting-death-threats-against-bill-oreilly/
March 30, 2009, 10:10:44 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I hope FOX Nation has good moderators.
Here's just a FRACTION of the troll names Patsy used on OW. (I have more that Bob exposed.)
Patsy and other trolls at OW routinely stole people's screen names and wrote the most hideous stuff under them. They routinely utlilized strawman sockpuppets, as well, in order to impugn their opposition.
They intentionally turned the site into a cesspool, with obscenities and obscene comments about other posters.
It's particularly ironic to see Patsy calling other people troll at NH and cajoling Ellen to ban them.
Currently, he's blaming andy racist posts posted there on Bob Cox and Johnny...
You can't get any more screwed up than this guy. Unless of course, you're Patrick.
By Robert Cox on January 26, 2008 10:38 AM
I have now banned 67.159.44.97, again primarily for language. There were about 40 comments form this address under the following names:
Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean P...
SHUT UP, BOVINE! At least...
Pastor DUMBFUCK! and more...
You are a great boot lick...
A few weeks ago?
No. Let's talk about Olbe...
Sean "Gokkun" Hannity Billdo O'rally Neil Cavuto Brit Hume Duane 'Dog' Chapman
Trent, you need to direct...
Another example of your s...
Being honest is classy
Relax, Mike.
Good luck, Trent!
I've forgiven you, Pastor...
Feel free to use also "Bo...
HEY! JOHNNY FASCISTO BU$H...
Not to mention a very, ve...
It is not fair, Hag-zilla...
Merry Christmas! Cecelia!...
I didn't expect it from y...
Mr. Sucks Cock! Please!
WOW! Sean Hannity running...
The Factor
WOW! Let's see Johnny BU$...
Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean P...
It is Jerry, another RW M...
I was finally able to tra...
Pastor DUMBFUCK! Get it t...
Cee, you really can't tak...
Well, again, I've sent Pa...
Ga. preacher pleads guil...
[Anonymous]
royal king
Stocks plunge on recessi...
Wall Street ouvre en fort...
royal king
I've lived long enough to...
royal king
Pleased to meet you, Redn...
WOW! Here I was, thinking...
Are you really that stupi...
March 30, 2009, 10:13:37 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
That was a good profile article on Beck in the NY Times. No name calling. No smears. No personal attacks.
Whether you like him or not he pretty much tells it like it is. And I liked his response to Maher for his idiotic remarks in attempting to link Beck with Tim McVeigh.
March 30, 2009, 10:17:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Want to bet that the News Hounds will use these interviews with Beck and O'Reilly in order to smear them?
March 30, 2009, 10:45:32 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Pat Pomeroy
The threshold questions is: Did BOR and his waterboys attempt to harass and intimidate Ms. Terkel? I don't see how that can be answered any way but "yes". That makes it a ethical breach. Then you can ask all of the diversionary questions, and you can answer them anyway you want to. You're considering the affirmative defenses before you resolve the primary case.
March 30, 2009, 11:14:53 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
The threshold questions is: Did BOR and his waterboys attempt to harass and intimidate Ms. terkel?
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Moving the goal posts? You people already tried and convicted Bill O'Reilly of personally harassing and stalking terkel. Now, it's "attempted?" That's a little ambiguous isn't it? Dishonest, too?
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March 30, 2009, 11:38:09 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Pat, here is the definition of stalking,
the act or crime of willfully and repeatedly following or harassing another person in circumstances that would cause a reasonable person to fear injury or death esp. because of express or implied threats.
She didn't appear to be in fear of injury or death.
March 30, 2009, 11:56:47 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
And it wasn't 'repeated' either. I'm surprised how many people don't realize that 'repeated' is the heart of the act of stalking, and one reason why no reporter I know of has ever been charged with 'stalking' based on doing an ambush interview. Until O'Reilly of course. The rules are different when it's O'Reilly.
March 30, 2009, 12:05:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Since when is it an ethical breach for a camera crew to put someone on the spot, or to scout them out?
This woman had publicly written an allegation against O'Reilly. It is not "harassment" to ask her to publicly explain, what she had publicly written, merely because she's doing it unprepared and on camera.
Which is worse:
Showing up with a camera to ask someone to explain what they have said about you, OR going on national television, implying that they have committed fraud, AND NOT allowing them the opportunity to defend themselves against your charge?
From the Red State interview with Dan Cooper:
Its no small thing, this smear. Word spread fast on left blogs and left tweets that the Olbermann account was a fake. Who is Dan Cooper and why is he impersonating Olbermann? The idea that Fox News was smearing Olbermann through a fake Twitter account was too salacious not to repeat across the web. I asked Dan, considering his career is in media, whether he was suffering any harmful fallout:
It is extremely damaging, both to my business and emotional state. Never in my life have I been accused of shoddy journalism. Let alone of such activity as violating the rules of a web site, as happened here. Far more important, I am at a critical point in the launching of a new media venture, and taking the time to deal with Keith Olbermanns insanity and NBCs lack of ethics and irresponsibility has cost me valuable time and energy.I do not, and have never, colluded with Fox News. I have never impersonated Keith Olbermann.
(emphasis mine)
Thanks Redstate for allowing Dan Cooper to defend himself!
Hope everyone who watched Countdown that night, reads your blog!...
March 30, 2009, 12:17:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Kirk G
J$, you have out done yourself today. Great work!
March 30, 2009, 12:19:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
The threshold questions is: Is there no limit to how far the Fox Haters and their waterboys at the Kennel will go in their attempts to smear and demonize Bill O'Reilly? I don't see how that can be answered any way but "yes". That makes it a ethical breach.
Then you can ask all of the diversionary questions, and you can answer them anyway you want to. You're considering the affirmative defenses before you resolve the primary case.
March 30, 2009, 1:01:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Thanks, Johnny, for letting me post AAP's (aka Patsy) troll names in regard to the comment board for FOX Nation and Fox Haters.
I've published more at Olbermann Watch (in the "Olbermann Smear of Twitter and Fox: It Was Worse Than You Thought!" thread), because the text is more amenable to that site (the info came from a letter posted there by owner Bob Cox posted) and I've had trouble with haloscan today.
I would like to urge everyone to go look at the list to get a glimmer into the psyche of Patsy and his crew.
News Hounds should be so proud...
March 30, 2009, 1:14:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
"The threshold questions is: Did BOR and his waterboys attempt to harass and intimidate Ms. Terkel? I don't see how that can be answered any way but "yes". That makes it a ethical breach. Then you can ask all of the diversionary questions, and you can answer them anyway you want to. You're considering the affirmative defenses before you resolve the primary case.
Pat Pomeroy | 03.30.09 - 11:19 am | # "
Come again. You frame what is the essential QUESTION as a proven fact and then proceed to declare the nuances and petty details are open for discussion and questions.
Didn't do too good in thar Primary Logic course, eh?
March 30, 2009, 1:29:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
I would like to urge everyone to go look at the list to get a glimmer into the psyche of Patsy and his crew.
News Hounds should be so proud...
Cecelia | 03.30.09 - 1:19 pm | #
He goes totally unchecked at tp, too. Countless names, responds to his own posts and the whole 9 yards.
March 30, 2009, 1:38:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Bill's appearance on "The View" was what it always is: spirited debate/gang-tackling/gotcha-playing and lots of crosstalk. I give it a C+.
March 30, 2009, 2:00:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Good job, Cecelia.
Have any of you passed by the Kennel and checked out the one trick pony Patsy's laugable defense and justification for his repulsive sewer rat behavior? Do give it a few moments.
It is a glimpse into virtual paranoid self delusion. It wasn't sweet little Patsy's fault, of course. He was forced into by his self righteous crusade to save the world from Johnny and Bob Cox.
I've often wondered how some of these people manage to live with themselves. Now Patdy gives me the how. No matter what you do you do it to purify society from all those evil and nasty Repubs.
March 30, 2009, 2:09:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
The FNC RED EYE controversy last week is still fresh in my mind, so....
Are any of the usual Nellie Olsens of the blogosphere calling for boycotts, firings, apologies or seppuku for leftist Bill Maher after this one?......
"Forget about bringing the troops home from Iraq. We need to get the troops home from World War II. Can anybody tell me why, in 2009, we still have more than 50,000 troops in Germany and 30,000 in Japan? At some point, these people are going to have to learn to rape themselves."
http://tinyurl.com/cph5bo
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Unlike when Gutfeld made the joke about The Canadian Military, the left cable tastefullness nannies for justice people seem to be silent on this one?
Oh, that's right....the difference is that it's BILL MAHER (a liberal), and AMERICAN troops (they are fair game).....That's right, how could I forget!
March 30, 2009, 2:09:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Cee,
I wouldn't be surprised if there are Canadian troops in Japan and in Germany as a part of a NATO presence there.
I would be surprised if a Canadian pol requests an apology from Mr. Maher.
March 30, 2009, 3:02:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Grammy,
Thanks.
These guys (including Haggis) will excuse ANY sort of online behavior on the basis of telling themselves they are taking out the forces of evil who don't want nationalized health care, etc.
I hope FOX Nation has a system that will withstand them.
March 30, 2009, 3:05:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
In my book, The View ranks right up there with Countdown and Nancy Grace, as being completely unwatchable.
March 30, 2009, 3:06:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "Beck replaces Greta?!?": Coming from Jeff Bercovici, both Glenn and Greta should take it as a compliment.
March 30, 2009, 3:42:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Emily Litella
Oh, that's right....the difference is that it's BILL MAHER (a liberal), and AMERICAN troops (they are fair game).....That's right, how could I forget! cee | 03.30.09 - 2:14 pm
That's not the reason for the silence.
Maher is a commedian and he was only making a joke on a comedy show.
Totally different than Fox's Gutfield on Re...............huh???....what??....oh.
Nevermind.
March 30, 2009, 4:57:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Pat Pomeroy
I never used the word "stalking" and I never said it fits the legal definition of stalking. My comments went to an ethical lapse, not the violation of stalking laws.
The Van Susteren deal is more interesting. I think she may believe she's toast whether she is or not. She is really out there thrashing for sensational stories of any sort often with the flimsiest of pretense and she has become very defensive.
We know there is nothing BOR can do that will get him in any hot water with Ailes. Van Susteren is a different story, I suspect.
March 30, 2009, 5:27:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Speaking of Jeff Bercovici, he took potshots at the Fox Nation. He does have a point, though. The comments, at least from the Ayers link, were mostly from the right. But the fringes seem like the only ones that ever comment at FOXNews.com and now Fox Nation. The links, however, are bipartisan. Last I checked, The Hill was pretty balanced.
March 30, 2009, 5:32:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Maher is a commedian
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Does that mean he had his clown nose on the front of his face? Is that the analogy you're using? Put the clown nose on the front...... make jokes.
Turn clown nose to the back of the head and "the comedian" can claim to be a financial expert on one night and claim to be a foreign relations expert the next, right?
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March 30, 2009, 5:52:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
Tsk, tsk, tsk...A distant 3rd place finish again for the Cornell alum.
He got nearly half in demo numbers compared to O'Reilly.
What's a fan to do?
Nothing is working!
Lies....
Stalking and harrassment allegations..
Belittling every insignoficant move of the congressional republicans....
Even kissing Dr. Dean's or David Axelrod's respective arses....
I expect some comments, perhaps even a diary, on kos shortly.
Agitate! (In Olbermann's case, like tinea)
March 30, 2009, 6:03:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Johnny,
I know I often try your patience, but I'd like to send this link out to folks, if I may.
It pretty well lets everyone know what's been going on here and elsewhere.
http://tinyurl.com/dxrjap
March 30, 2009, 7:59:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Emily Litella
Olby Sucks | Homepage
Mr. Sucks,
I'm here tonight to speak out against the red fox's red eyes being made fun of and joked about, whether it's a Canadian fox or an American fox. I'm outraged commedians think they can get away with ridiculing these poor, suffering, cute as buttons little creatures just to get a laugh. I mean, why? Foxes have feelings, too.
Now about those clown noises. What other part of the face would clown noises be than the front. I mean, really, has anyone ever seen the back of a face? Huh?
March 30, 2009, 8:38:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Emily Litella
MSNBC abandons 10:00pm:
"Griffin says now that the repeat (CD w/KO) is doing so well in the ratings it would take something special to dislodge it."
Oh, that's different.........
Nevermind.
March 30, 2009, 8:57:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "MSNBC abandons 10PM plans": Thank goodness.
March 30, 2009, 10:17:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Emily Litella | 03.30.09 - 9:02 pm | #
3rd place makes msnbc quite happy. Some people have standards and some people don't.
March 30, 2009, 10:58:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
The line ""Griffin says now that the repeat (CD w/KO) is doing so well in the ratings it would take something special to dislodge it," produced various ideas in my old, but still fully fertile mind, of numerious "somethings special" that could be used to "dislodge" the Great and Powerful Olby Oz.
I refrained from posting my ideas in order to prevent certain cretins (you know who you are) from accusing me of making idol threats.
March 31, 2009, 11:04:08 AM EDT – Like – Reply
