Thursday Cable News Links and Open Thread
Wednesday's numbers: Bill-Beck-Sean 1-2-3. CNN: fifth!
Twitter silence: day eight. Coop denies fatherhood.
How to save Countdown? Zucker imperiled?
Q&A: Kilmeade. Miles O'Brien resurfaces.
FBN's contrarian. Joe & Mika party with Arianna.
Fox flip-flop? D-Rat: confused. Coop vs Snooki?
O'Reilly/Stewart: refreshing, weird, remarkable, a delight, must-see.
Hotline after dark. Bold Fresh: the movie.
Updated through the day. Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. fox news cable
Chris
I would like the Oreilly/Stewart interview better if it was shown in its entirety and unedited. Maybe on a Friday Night or Saturday when we are in a slow news cycle
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Maddow money deals being questioned:
http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2010/02/bankrupt-air-america-paid-rachel-maddow.html
February 4, 2010, 9:18:00 AM EST – Like – Reply
Puck30
Chris I heard the 'unedited' (wonder what that could mean) version will be up on FNC's website after 9pm tonight. I also heard it will be 40-45 mins. long. If that's true, this should be fun.
I'm sure it will find it's way onto youtube shortly after that.
February 4, 2010, 1:25:59 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
thanks for the heads up.
February 4, 2010, 1:39:13 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
D-Rat: confused: yes he is, and media matters blasted Fox news for showing the ad yesterday. Nothing factually wrong with the ad but poor MM can't handle it.I'm sure the article was one big lie (on Media Matters-Fox "campaigning" for Kirk). they lied about Fox and brown so. Maybe MM should blast MSNBC for "campaigning" for Coakley or Obama or any other democrat
February 4, 2010, 9:22:30 AM EST – Like – Reply
keyboard jockey
The Toyota boondoggle and consequences to the US Market – Auto and Otherwise? FBN linked.
Toyota Silver Lining.
Dear Taliban we have the repair fix for your Toyota – shim this.
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2010/02/toyota-silver-lining.html
February 4, 2010, 11:05:50 AM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
I noticed that there was an article about Olby's falling numbers on the Google News Page. When the falling numbers story makes it there, I'd say it's serious.
February 4, 2010, 11:34:49 AM EST – Like – Reply
Puck30
Mika Brzezinski's, "All Things At Once."~ Pub. January 5, 2010~Amazon.com Sales Rank: #455 in Books
Oh darling, so sorry even with that lovely party Zsa Zsa threw for you and Joe you can't crack the top 100. And I thought Zsa Zsa was such an influential mover n' shaker in the world of media darling. How could you only be #455 darling I don't understand. By the way darling you and Joe look like such a cute couple darling I must go now. kiss kiss.
February 4, 2010, 1:49:09 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
For the "What if this happened at Fox?" file.
Mediaite posted a story that the NBC cafeteria is celebrating Black History Month with a Fried Chicken special.
February 4, 2010, 1:57:23 PM EST – Like – Reply
Blackflon
The Hounds would be all over it with their fake outrage about Fox being a bunch of racists.
February 4, 2010, 4:06:47 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
NBC is a mess, far more failures than there are successes. It is hemorrhaging money. New owners coming in and facing a recently signed 3 year contract with Zucker. What to do, what to do?
The I.M. Right Plan for NBC Success:
Step 1 - Fire Zucker. He's a horrible leader who has been driving the company into the ground.
Step 2 - Retain him as special consultant for the duration of his contract.
Step 3 - Listen closely to his advice.
Step 4 - But do the complete opposite
February 4, 2010, 3:52:24 PM EST – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Comcast is very conservative. I expect them to reign in Olbermann. Also, they probably will be watching his ratings a lot closer than NBC was.
February 4, 2010, 4:05:15 PM EST – Like – Reply
Blackflon
NEWS HOUNDS LACK SENE OF HUMOR!!!!!!
Chris Wallace Sure To Be A Lapdog For Sarah Palin on Fox News SundayReported by Ellen - February 4, 2010 - Comments (7) Personally, I think the Hideious Hens are jealous.Here is something to get their thongs all twisted. FUNBAGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 4, 2010, 4:02:58 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
I wonder what Palin thought of this exchange....She probably feels like some kind of barbie doll getting passed around from one FNC lap to another. Lets hope she forcefully asked for an apology...probably via face book if she stays true to form. Could you imagine the outrage here if David Gregory had said the same thing.
February 4, 2010, 4:56:00 PM EST – Like – Reply
badbilly
Hey Johnnie, what is going on with Shep Smith? He usually tries to play it down the middle, but his diatribe today about "Misinformation" about the Christmas Day plane bomber was perplexing. He got most of his facts wrong and added a bunch of opinion into the mix. What has happened to him?
February 4, 2010, 4:08:19 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
That's Shep being Shep.A little opinion slips in at times but it's notable when it happens because it doesn't happen that often. Doesn't bother me but your mileage may vary.
February 4, 2010, 4:14:51 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Barny Frank smacks John Fund (darling of FNC) all over the place for being a "liar" and a "coward"....For good measure he throws Beck into the mix for repeating said lie.
Must see video...be quick before Johnny removes this post
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/barney-frank-calls-john-fund-liar-and-c
February 4, 2010, 4:22:46 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Haggis, interesting to see you seem to feel that someone who lies is a coward. We know someone around here who has been truth-challenged, now if I could just remember who that was.......
February 4, 2010, 4:33:06 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Typical Ashley...The truth about Fund come out and Ashely quickly tries to talk about something else.
Loved the Stewart interview last nigh....He hit Fox right where it hurts...This fast thinking quip was brilliant and so right...."They have (FNC) taken reasonable concerns about this president and this economy and turned it into a full-fledged panic attack about the next coming of Chairman Mao,"
looking forward to part 2 tonight.
February 4, 2010, 4:41:35 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
"The truth about Fund come out and Ashely quickly tries to talk about something else. "
Haggis, funny you say that, your duck and dodge history is well documented in the archives of J$P. Perhaps you would have excused Fund if he was in the middle of cooking a steak.
The "Truth" about John Fund? Did he lie or did he make a mistake. If you are going to claim he lied, then provide proof that he knowingly posted something that was incorrect.
BTW - may I remind you of how many lies this poster I referred to has been caught telling?
February 4, 2010, 4:55:41 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"Perhaps you would have excused Fund if he was in the middle of cooking a steak. "
LOL. CotD!
February 4, 2010, 5:02:23 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny....i see your not picking Ashley up on his error..It was actually a steak pie...But apart from that it was exceptionally funny.
February 4, 2010, 5:10:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
My first!!!! Take that Cecelia!!!
February 4, 2010, 5:15:39 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Gosh, I better quit giving Mediaite the benefit of my vast political insight and get over here before I.M. Right gets all the CotDs.
February 4, 2010, 7:35:47 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley...I don't see how it could have been a mistake...as you say....There never was bill like Fund described...so he had to have made the whole thing up....in other words he lied. Just watch the video...I'm sure no one will notice you over at C&L...just remember to clear you cache/history afterwards.
February 4, 2010, 5:17:01 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
"He hit Fox right where it hurts..."
It could only hurt in one place, the ratings. Let's see what they say. TV Newswer usually posts them around now.
February 4, 2010, 4:56:52 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Ah, there they are now.
Interesting, BOR had almost as many viewers as MSNBC/CNN combined....TIMES 3!!!
Oh yeah Haggy, FNC is hurting!
February 4, 2010, 4:59:32 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ahley...you know exactly what I meant by that comment and it was nothing to do with ratings....Stewart is simply saying how biased FNC is against the President....So pop that into your King Edward and smoke it.
February 4, 2010, 5:03:42 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Well I'm not satisfied with Stewart's opinion. I want to hear the real definitive word. What's Henny Youngman's opinion? And most important, where does Gilbert Gottfried stand on this?
February 4, 2010, 5:18:54 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Henny would be 100% behind Stewart...He'd probably have condenced it slightly.
I haven't a clue who the other person is.
February 4, 2010, 5:28:18 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
I haven't a clue who the other person is.
Unfortunately for GG, you and a millions of others.
February 4, 2010, 5:48:04 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Isn't it great that America has chosen FNC as the most trusted?
February 4, 2010, 5:25:37 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
I think you'll find it was Republicans that said that in the poll your referencing. Any right thinking person would steer well clear of FNC if it was facts they were after.
February 4, 2010, 5:46:00 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
"I think you'll find it was Republicans that said that in the poll your referencing. Any right thinking person would steer well clear of FNC if it was facts they were after."
As usual, your analysis is spot off. You forgot to mention what percentage of democrats specified Fox News and you failed to mention any other specific news provider that a larger block of democrats trusted more than Fox.
February 4, 2010, 6:07:42 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I'm not clear what you say the truth about John Fund really is. (Or why I even allowed this since John Fund has nothing to do with FNC. But the horse is out of the stable now...) What exactly is the lie in this case? From what I understand, Fund said the legislation was coming from Shumer and Frank, when in actuality it's coming from Shumer and Conyers. You seem to be suggesting that Fund didn't just have the wrong name but rather deliberately replaced Conyers with Frank. Why would he do that, and what evidence do you have that he did? Enquiring minds want to know.
February 4, 2010, 5:27:11 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Haggis - "There never was bill like Fund described"
Haggis, is there a bill coming from Schumer and Conyers? Wouldn't that be a "bill like Fund described"?
February 4, 2010, 5:37:36 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
"As Jon said on the factor last night....he also got the most trusted name in news. "
What Haggis fails to mention, as he usually fails to mention something in order to make his case, was that the poll Stewart mentioned was an online poll.
If Haggis had analysis skills, he would know that online polls are not scientific. He also just implied that Stewart does not have Republican viewers. Haggis would be unable to back that up with any facts as even his own link does not state that. Haggis also fails to mention that the PEW poll that Johnny shared with us last year which COMPLETELY BLOWS HAGGIS' LATEST ANALYSIS RIGHT OUT OF THE WATER.
February 4, 2010, 6:39:49 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Johnny....There is no such bill...as frank told The Hill back on 01/14/10...Fund simply made the whole thing up and the Right ran with it....simple as that.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/76039-frank-says-universal-registration-bill-is-fabricated
February 4, 2010, 5:40:13 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Your link merely says there is no bill that FRANK is planning to introduce. I asked you where is the "lie" if in fact Schumer is preparing such a bill without Frank's involvement? The Nation seems to think he is:
http://tinyurl.com/yce8le3
Now if you want to claim there is no such bill in preparation, then you have to prove it. Not just that there is no such bill from Frank because Fund has already corrected that error. So I ask again. If Fund merely got Frank's name wrong when it was really Conyers, how is that a lie? Unless your claim is that Fund deliberately let Conyers off the hook and inserted Frank's name instead. Why would he do that, and what proof do you have that he did?
February 4, 2010, 5:48:39 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Johnny that was written back in May 2009. "Senator Chuck Schumer is reportedly considering introducing legislation to this effect in Congress soon."....it has never appeared...also Frank/Conyers names never appear in the article either.
You post me a link to the Schumer/Conyers bill...I'm a 100% behind what Frank said until I see evidence to the contrary.
February 4, 2010, 6:11:19 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I'm sorry but it's not up to me to do your research for you. If you want to claim no such bill is in fact under consideration by Schumer and Conyers, then prove it. If you want to claim there may be a bill in preparation, but Frank isn't part of it, and Fund deliberately lied about Frank to protect Conyers, then prove that.
You're the one who accused Glenn Beck of repeating a lie. Now either you can prove it's a lie or you can't. You're at that good old fork in the road, and which way you go is up to you.
February 4, 2010, 6:16:18 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Johnny...I know where this is going....I'm still sticking with what Frank said....So ban me if you like.
Fund has also issued a retraction....why do that?
why would Fund want to protest Conyers?
http://www.house.gov/frank/pressreleases/2010/02-03-10-right-wing-disinformation.html
February 4, 2010, 6:41:59 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
"Fund has also issued a retraction"
That's not what it says from your link.
"To date, Mr. Fund has still not issued a public retraction."
If Fund has said anything on the matter since, then it would be nice if you would provide an exact quote.
February 4, 2010, 6:50:13 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I'm not looking to ban you. I'm looking for an answer to my question, that is directed at your claim of a "lie". Are you saying that Glenn Beck told a lie, or not? If yes, you'll have to back it up with more than Fund getting a name wrong and correcting himself. If you're now claiming Beck wasn't repeating a lie, then say so and we can move on. But I want this settled one way or the other.
February 4, 2010, 6:52:45 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Here's video of Beck repeating the Fund line.....he also names frank...So no fact check done by the Beck team..I think you'll agree.
http://globalwarmingmisinformation.com/research/201001200015
It also says in the article that:-"It's not Congressman Frank. It's Congressman Conyers," although Fund continued to cite no evidence for this claim"
There's still no "universal voter registration" bill...So we'll just have to come back to this on a latter date.
I hope this puts an ends to the matter.
+ why was my other post deleted?
February 4, 2010, 7:06:37 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Geez, do I have to keep repeating myself? Either prove that there was a LIE, or take it back. Or prepare for a vacation. Your choice.
And your other messages will continue to be deleted until this is resolved. I have spoken.
February 4, 2010, 7:11:19 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Well he lied (Frank's word) that it was Frank&Schumer that were going to introduce the bill....And Fund only changed his stance when Frank contacted him.
lie might be a bit strong....sloppy journalism hits the mark better.
February 4, 2010, 7:18:30 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
This is what John Fund said. "In January, Chuck Schumer and Barney Frank will propose universal voter registration. What is universal voter registration? It means all of the state laws on elections will be overriden by a federal mandate. The feds will tell the states: 'take everyone on every list of welfare that you have, take everyone on every list of unemployed you have, take everyone on every list of property owners, take everyone on every list of driver's license holders and register them to vote regardless of whether they want to be...'
Haggis, can you provide evidence that Fund said that there WAS a bill?
Yes or no question. Is is possible that Schumer and Frank were planning at one time to propose universal voter registration? Is it possible Haggis?
Fund got this info from somewhere, maybe from a source or may he did make it up. Do you have evidence that he made it up?
February 4, 2010, 5:46:55 PM EST – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Just what we need. More losers going into a voting booth.
It's beyond me why we don't have a test for voters.
February 4, 2010, 6:26:06 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
What an outragious thing to say.
February 4, 2010, 6:31:47 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
What John Fund said "In January, Chuck Schumer and Barney Frank will propose universal voter registration."
Haggis anslysis about what Fund said "There never was bill like Fund described...so he had to have made the whole thing up...."
Here's a question that Haggis has avoided answering:
Yes or no question. Is is possible that Schumer and Frank were planning at one time to propose universal voter registration? Is it possible Haggis?
February 4, 2010, 6:25:06 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
What John Fund said "In January, Chuck Schumer and Barney Frank will propose universal voter registration."
Haggis anslysis about what Fund said "There never was bill like Fund described...so he had to have made the whole thing up...."
Here's a question that Haggis has avoided answering:
Yes or no question. Is is possible that Schumer and Frank were planning at one time to propose universal voter registration? Is it possible Haggis?
February 4, 2010, 6:25:45 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
CNN Fifth: that's sad
February 4, 2010, 7:05:08 PM EST – Like – Reply
Tina
It may be sad, but they earned it.
February 4, 2010, 7:28:31 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Re: Joe and Mika party with Arianna
I don't know what sort of relationship other people have with their spouses, but if my husband witnessed me in a picture leaning against a man similarly to Mika with Joe, he'd be on the first plane out to CA.
I'd do the same if my hubby was posed like Joe.
There is more than journalism going on there, folks.
February 4, 2010, 7:55:46 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Cecelia....What I take from that comment is this....You don't trust your husband and he doesn't trust you.
February 4, 2010, 8:14:33 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
Flucker....What I take from that comment is this....As always you don't know or understand proper boundaries and behavior.
February 4, 2010, 8:41:55 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Dang Grammie! Sick burn.
That was a bit inappropriate, Haggis.
February 4, 2010, 8:45:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
You're damn right I don't. He's easy on the eye and fully operational.
I keep an eye on that boy...
February 4, 2010, 9:02:02 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
newsliars pick up lie:Fox News Throwing Its Weight Behind Mark Kirk they cite "media matters"
February 4, 2010, 8:37:03 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
it just struck me, Obly has been going after FNC but didnt he say he would stop after the murder of "Dr" Tiller-last year?
February 4, 2010, 8:45:08 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
I just finished watching the unedited interview on Bill Oreilly.com and thought it was a pretty good interview.
February 4, 2010, 9:52:39 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
So...who won? Point, counterpoint? I'd like to see it but don't want to invest the time.
February 4, 2010, 9:57:35 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
I started watching at 9pm. for me, hard to say, but I'm leaning towards stewart. What was shown on TV was very much edited. what was not on TV which is in the interview was Stewart claiming that they try very hard not to take people out of context-which I think is a flat out lie. that was in regards to Oreilly and some protester business and how stewart portrayed it. Oreilly took Stewart to task on it at the time.
February 4, 2010, 10:18:37 PM EST – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Olbermann used tonight to re-attack Andrew Malcolm, re-attack Jeff Bercovici, re-lie about his ratings and how they went up from December to January, and mock every single person that speculated about his cancellation. The Quick Comment was basically I Ain't Goin' Nowhere You Sorry Right-Wingers. What I remember most was the "...that we're not" conclusion, followed by a smirk and puffy lip.
February 5, 2010, 12:54:44 AM EST – Like – Reply
Mike C.
"...that they're not."
February 5, 2010, 1:50:23 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
Johnny, the Chris Wallace segment on Fox and Friends this morning was a hoot.
When the subject of Sarah Palin being interviewed on Wallace's lap came up Gretchen Carlson just blurted out a long loud Whaaaat????.
I was only half awake but am sorry I only heard it b/c my eyes were closed.
February 5, 2010, 11:59:34 AM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
It was funny. The Fox hater blogs immediately picked up on it as if it was some sort of serious discussion. It's the same sort of banter that they do with Wallace every Friday.
February 5, 2010, 12:03:53 PM EST – Like – Reply
Blackflon
I keep telling ya. Lefties have no sense of humor.
February 5, 2010, 1:30:36 PM EST – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I bet it'll end up in WPitW or Quick Comment as a serious discussion.
February 5, 2010, 1:46:14 PM EST – Like – Reply
