Friday Links & Open Thread
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Olbermann special comment tonight.
Obama: Lou Dobbs causes hate crimes.
Cable news makes strange bedfellows?
Thursday's numbers.
Video: Q&A with The Judge.
MSCNN?
MSNBC rewards Shuster with yet-unnamed 4:00 pm hour. Analysis.
Gillespie gambit analyzed.
Audio: Chris Wallace O'Reilly quip.
Hotline quotes.
Q&A: Shep Smith.
FNC dissed...by Pravda!
Ten-speeds in Kabul.
Matthews matriculation monologue.
E.D. evaluated.
NBC's Peter principle? Today's firing suspension demand.
Spectacular Spectra.
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Cecelia
Johnny,
If you had an Ironical Comment of the Day award, you'd have to give to Chris Matthews over his commence address ode to the importance of listening to others... :D
May 23, 2008, 11:55:41 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
Unfortunately, the radical left has all but hijacked Melanie's petition. Too bad.
How should I take the Pravda diss? I think the overall ratings--that aren't based solely on primary nights--prove them wrong. Right?
May 23, 2008, 12:46:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Right!
May 23, 2008, 12:52:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
The comments that were in here have disappeared. What is going on around here with the comments lately?
May 23, 2008, 1:31:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
Okay, now I see them, but my question is still valid.
May 23, 2008, 1:32:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
LurkerLou
Did you just read that liberal spin by that hack Columbia Professor?
The only reason CNN is beating FNC on those election days is because of the fierce fight between Obama and Clinton.
So where are all these liberals going to tune into for the Democratic Primary in a Democratic year?
CNN is going back in the dumps really really bad when McCain wins in November and liberlas are too crushed to even watch tv for 6+ months lol.
May 23, 2008, 2:48:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
Re: "MSCNN": And the winner in the potential merger? The infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann. To answer Keith's question to me, my face is red because I'm worried about this happening. You are a very dangerous man; so dangerous that BOR can't even mention you by name.
May 23, 2008, 3:56:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
For the record, I was referring to last Thursday when reporting a demo tie the night before, Keith gleefully and sinisterly asked BOR, "Hey, Bill, why is your face red?"
May 23, 2008, 3:58:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
The evil Olbermann won by 31,000 in the demo, but lost by a million in total viewers. And the glee resumes.
May 23, 2008, 5:11:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Sarah P
My sister and i could not belive what we were seeing and reading i am trembling in regard the statement that Hillary made.
Justifying the reason she is staying in the race is because anything can happen Robert Kennedy got killed in June so anything can happen until then.
My God i don`t care if she wants stay in but those words are scary.
My sister and i said a prayer i don`t like those words towards anyone
May 23, 2008, 5:13:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Nobody's subbing for Bill tonite. They're re-airing a show from earlier this month. Meanwhile Oralmann apparently will be on as usual.
May 23, 2008, 5:14:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
I continue to have difficulties with the comments page. Not all the comments are loading. It's frustrating because I'd like to see what everyone else is saying.
May 23, 2008, 5:33:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
My sister and i said a prayer i don`t like those words towards anyone
Sarah P | 05.23.08 - 5:18 pm | #
Chill, 'sarah.'
May 23, 2008, 5:44:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
I hope the Bill replay beats live KO by a mile in the total audience category! Please believe me when I say any host on FoxNews is better than Oralmann. I am having the same difficulties with the comments page, but thought it was my computer.
May 23, 2008, 5:48:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
I love it when they have Flemming on. She makes a fool of herself and the left every time. Thanks, Jane!
May 23, 2008, 5:51:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Missy
Re: Obama blaming Dobbs and Rush for "hate crimes" against illegals:
This is from "Steamboat" at Huffington Postl I love it!
"Talk about hypocrisy !
Here in Chicago, we use to have a Black racist Alderwoman named Dorothey Tillman. Who got up on the Chicago City Council and screamed, "The Voting Rights Act ONLY pertains to African-Americans and not those Mexicans." ....Barack Obama endorsed her for re-election AFTER she made this insulting comment. Even Jesse Jackson Jr. knew better then that and endorsed Tillman's opponent because of Dorothey's hateful comments.
Obama needs to look in the mirror first."
May 23, 2008, 6:16:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
After reading that KO will make yet another special comment, I am convinced that this is the left loon push to get Hill to retire from this race. Her comments regarding Bobby Kennedy may be the final straw for the Dem super delegates and Olby is going to be the lefty voice box for demanding that she stand down.
May 23, 2008, 7:07:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I don't know what the hell, Hillary was thinking, but she's made Olbermann's dream come true.
She couldn't have set him up with a higher high horse...
May 23, 2008, 7:25:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
SteveMG
Clinton was just using the RFK assassination as a sort of historical data point in her reference to 1968. She could have chosen her words better; but c'mon.
It would have served no purpose otherwise.
Olbermann will pull one of his holier-than-thou stunts tonight with all of the theatrical looks into the camera and pauses and angle shots included.
Gawd, what an ego this man has.
May 23, 2008, 7:47:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
>I love it when they have Flemming on. She makes a fool of herself and the left every time. Thanks, Jane!<
Was Jane Fleming Kleeb ("Klehb") on "America's Election HQ" earlier? Oh, well. I hope things are going well for her out in Nebraska. And I mean that sincerely. It's hard to suddenly give everything up and move away. I'm slightly considering it myself (not to Nebraska, but Florida), but at the same time, I'm too used to living here on Long Island.
May 23, 2008, 7:47:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Aeris Gainsborough
SPOILER: Keith Olbermann slams his pen down, during the Special Comment. I wonder why Keith Olbermann did not EVER slam his pen down, when talking about Mr. Bush, during Special Comment? Mike Malloy, at least, gives me relief about the Bush Crime Family, and in my opinion, Mike Malloy should be doing the Special Comments, but...
Comment on Thursday's numbers, I guess E.D. Hill sucks, maybe it's time to put Sean Hannity, perhaps?
May 23, 2008, 9:00:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
He didn't slam his pen down. He almost jumped out of his seat when something fell or broke in the studio. He winced like someone was taking a swing at him.
May 23, 2008, 10:44:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I liked E.D. in for BOR this week.
If President Bush is part of a "crime family", why isn't the family in jail? If such a statement were true, charges would be pressed. If you have that proof, Aeris, perhaps you should press the charges yourself!
Thanks for the spoiler. I prefer to hear that than watch shows that I'd never waste my own time on.
May 23, 2008, 11:07:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Missy
Speaking of Jane Fleming, I wish Hannity's America would bring back that segment with her and another lib, going against Sean and the Great One (Mark Levin, of course). Sure, it looked staged, and of course Hannity and Levin way outpowered the other two. But it was GREAT TV!
And Hannity had another segment on that program that was equally rabid. But now, the show is quite watered down - all the super conservative segments are gone.
Bring back the show the way it was when it began. And while they're at it, I wish the "Half Hour News Hour" was back as well. It would be great to have for the election.
Bg back the
May 24, 2008, 12:21:30 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
>the Great One (Mark Levin, of course)<
It could have been Wayne Gretzky. But I knew you meant Mark in this case.
I liked E.D. this week, too. I always like her.
May 24, 2008, 12:27:16 AM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
A commenter on Hot Air calls Jane Fleming "Chesty McTalkingPoints"
cracks me up.
May 24, 2008, 12:33:51 AM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
I wish the "Half Hour News Hour" was back as well. It would be great to have for the election.
Bg back the
Missy | 05.24.08 - 12:26 am | #
You would think Fox News could afford to hire someone that could write some jokes. They hired nobody's for hosts, which didn't help, either. The first show was pretty good and it went down from there. Too bad.
May 24, 2008, 12:56:55 AM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
in all fairness, the 1/2 Hour News Hour was a show created by the team that produces "24". It wasn't that FoxNews couldn't find writers... it was that the producer of the show couldn't run a funny operation.
May 24, 2008, 1:20:43 AM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Watching Fox and Friends,I am always astonished to see the women in short skirts with a camera aimed at their knees, waiting for the inevitable upskirt shot.
Why not pants suits?I would feel demeaned being put in the postion of those women.
"Chesty McTalkingPoints"?Objectify much?
May 24, 2008, 9:37:55 AM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
In all the years of watching F&F I have never seen the "inevitable upskirt shot", so have I been watching at the wrong time or are you just making this up? I have seen a lot of nice legs on attractive women and will continue to enjoy the scenery and observations by bright attractive females. There is women on the political scene today that favors pants suits so you have another viewing option.
May 24, 2008, 10:17:18 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I'm pretty sure someone would have put up screenshots of the upskirt shots if they exist. And I would have already found them.
Oh wait, I just did.
http://foxandfriends.blogspot.com/
May 24, 2008, 11:24:03 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
That is an old site and a reminder that the curvy couch hasn't been around that long. I do not pay attention to upskirt shots nor do I wait for them.
I do think Jane Fleming Kleeb (again, a reminder it's pronounced "Klehb") is attractive, but I'm well aware she's quite married. In fact, I think the one year anniversary is this month. By the way, I don't like Hot Air and will only go there if video is linked there and I can't get it anywhere else. I used to like the site, but then Michelle became the primary fill-in on "The Factor." And at the same time, the posters and commenters shared their hatred of BOR, yearning for him to retire and Michelle to take over the show. Plus, they consider anybody to the left of conservative right bad. But I digress...again.
Jake Tapper is an excellent reporter.
I try to like the "F&F" weekend crew, particularly Clayton, Dave, and to some extent Ainsley, but it's so hard. What apparently happened this morning made it even more difficult. But I guess they'll just have to be the weekend morning team that FNC viewers love to hate.
May 24, 2008, 12:12:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
Oh, crap. The last two paragraphs were in response to links in the weekend thread. I'll just copy and paste them over there.
May 24, 2008, 12:13:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
"Chesty McTalkingPoints"?Objectify much?
notveryhow | 05.24.08 - 9:42 am | #
As opposed to 'chimpy mcflightsuit' or 'mcbush' or 'bushIII?' Those are all regular terms at your beloved 'newshounds' blog. Liberal hypocrisy? Is that being "objective?"
May 24, 2008, 12:50:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
""Chesty McTalkingPoints"?Objectify much?"
It had nothing to to do with objectifying.. it had everything to do with mocking her and dismissing her as the no-idea partisan hack automaton that she appears to be so often.
There's nothign wrong with offering the opinion of the other side, but my God.. not the way she does it so often.
Typical hypothetical performance:
"Jane Fleming, why do you support aborition?"
"Sean, after 8 years of this horrible administration, of not protecting the American people, of taking the ball off of Afghanistan, of getting us stuck in Iraq, of cutting taxes, of not giving us Karl Rove's head on a platter.. the American people have had enough and the Democratic Party, like the Great Whore that we are, is ready to promise everything to Americans if they will just vote for us again.. because hey if you dont like how money the Federal Govt spends under Bush.. we agree .. it's never enough or too much!"
ok i made up the bit at the end.
but that's hwo she responds to everything.
May 24, 2008, 2:08:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
M. Kelly slapped her down twice, yesterday. It was hot...........
May 24, 2008, 2:19:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
is there video?
May 24, 2008, 3:14:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Oblio,
Objectify and objective are two different words with two different meanings.
Though you are right,discriptive terms such a "MvFlightsuit" or "Golfless Wonder"are not objective.They are not meant to be.
VinceP1974 | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 2:13 pm |
There are ways to mock and dismiss,if that is your intent,without bringing up boob size.How often do you hear "little dick" Morris?(Hey,that's not a bad idea.)
david smawley | 05.24.08 - 10:22 am |
You probably know more about Fox than I do.You stated that women on other networks can wear pants suits,as opposed to Fox where one can see" a lot of nice legs on attractive women".Is there a requirement that women on Fox wear skirts?I don't recall ever seeing pants suits on F&F.
But let's not be so literal minded.When I said" inevitable upskirt" shots,I was speaking of the inevitable,not history.Logically speaking,the F&F women,sooner or later,will forget themselves and we will get a "Sharon Stone" moment.
My point was that this could not happen to a women wearing a pants suit,or even better,behind a desk.I get the impression that this effect is intentional.I read an essay by no less a luminary than Andrei Condrescu (who?) who commented on this.And thus the question,is it mandatory that the women on the couch wear skirts.And another question that occurs to me,would Fox hire a women with bad legs?
May 24, 2008, 9:51:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
"I get the impression that this effect is intentional."
What you're saying is that Fox News is trying to get upskirt shots of their hosts. That is an ignorant assertion, but as you said, we probably know more about Fox than you do.
That said, Fox does have some great legs! FNW looked great tonight with E.D.
May 24, 2008, 10:13:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
VinceP1974 | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 2:13 pm |
There are ways to mock and dismiss,if that is your intent,without bringing up boob size.How often do you hear "little dick" Morris?(Hey,that's not a bad idea.)
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Thanks for the advice , though please consider the following:
- Her boob size was never discussed... maybe that's what you're focusing on , perhaps? Otherwise , can you explain where you got this from?
- I didn't originate the name, so I feel like i'm under a Shoot the Messenger kind of an attack. My emotional state is becoming unstable. Please tell me why you are attacking me by using tactics like Guilt by Association.
May 24, 2008, 10:19:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Chesty McTalkingPoints"?
That doesn't refer to bounteous boobs?
"I didn't originate the name,"
I didn't originate "Chimp","Bush Crime Family",or "McInsane" either,but if I say "it cracks me up".I've got to at least take responsibility for it.
"That is an ignorant assertion,"
Then why do they have women in short skirts sitting on a couch? Why not allow the women to wear pants suits or sit behind a desk?Or even hire (God forbid) a women without shapely legs.
It's marketing,and sex sells.It annoys me on principal,but if you enjoy it,then go for it.But recognize it for what it is.
May 24, 2008, 10:40:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
Fox Fan: Isn't it interesting how this notveryhow seems obsessed with Jane Fleming's boobs and the legs of other woman?
(and then claiming that Fox is intentionally aiming the camera at women's vay ja ja)
May 24, 2008, 10:45:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
Chesty McTalkingPoints"?
That doesn't refer to bounteous boobs?
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YAWN
You Leftists sure do like to whine and moan about the most trivial things... It's a mocking name someone made for her... move on with your life.
May 24, 2008, 10:48:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
Why are we still talking in a Friday thread on Saturday night? :D
May 24, 2008, 10:49:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
"Then why do they have women in short skirts sitting on a couch?"
Why not? It's professional and attractive.
I do recognize it for what it is, and yes, sex does sell. Do you have a problem with professional, intelligent, attractive women? Do you have a problem with sex in general? Too bad.
May 24, 2008, 11:03:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Fox Fan | 05.24.08 - 11:08 pm |
Would you be comfortable with your wife on the couch?Your daughter?How about if your daughter were short and heavy and excluded from a "professional" position because she had unattractive legs?
May 24, 2008, 11:14:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I would be delighted if my wife or daughter were a professional, attractive, intelligent Fox News anchor. Does your wife/daughter have unattractive legs, nvh? I'm sorry.
May 24, 2008, 11:29:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
All things being equal, I'd rather look at Kiran or Julie giving me the news than Jack Cafferty or Larry King.
May 24, 2008, 11:29:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
johnny dollar | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 11:34 pm |
Yes,Larry King in a skirt would make my day.
May 24, 2008, 11:32:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
lol
May 24, 2008, 11:32:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
C'mon johnny, how can you not be enchanted by Larry King?
http://gawker.com/news/cnn/larry-king-throws-the-brown-darts-184929.php
May 24, 2008, 11:33:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Fox Fan | 05.24.08 - 11:38 pm |
So are you ready to do the news in a kilt?You're on the couch at 7.
May 25, 2008, 12:59:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Sure, a kilt is fine. Don't expect the same quality upskirt though!
May 25, 2008, 1:44:07 AM EDT – Like – Reply
