Tuesday Links and Open Thread
Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:
Monday's numbers: Big Ed opens small.
Obama: only on FNC.
Greta graphics upgrade.
Weekend numbers. Weekly ranker.
Big Ed: review. More.
Today's Beck bash.
Hotline after dark.
Friedman firing fallout.
FixCNBC video. Q&A: Dan Abrams. Vote: MacCallum v Holmes.
Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. Standard rules apply. fox news cable
Ashley
Well done to Fox for being the only cable news network to cover the President this morning. Actually, not a difficult achievement, as the recent trends of MSNBC and CNN seem to indicate that Fox is the only cable news network. CNN and MSNBC are merely channels for prison documentaries, Larry King interviews with Hollywood Celebs, and discussions about Fox.
April 7, 2009, 11:59:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Hey, it's another example of 'Fox Republican propaganda'!
April 7, 2009, 12:06:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Pegleg Peggy
FYI
http://tinyurl.com/olbermann25grand
April 7, 2009, 12:15:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Lurker
FBN might be debuting their new set today!!! Can't wait!
http://twitter.com/LizClaman/status/1470248969
April 7, 2009, 12:20:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Its good to see KO feeling so guilty for his sliming of rape victims, that he forks out some of that cash he's receiving from we taxpayers in the form of the bailout to GE, and joining those at J$P in contributing to such a worthy cause.
April 7, 2009, 12:21:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
And announcing it on television too, like he did with his donation to Clinton. Assuming it's true of course.
April 7, 2009, 12:24:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Lurker
Darn! Liz just did an update. No exact date for new set launch.
April 7, 2009, 12:27:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Olbermann only gave the money out of guilt or used it as an attmpt to show up O'Reilly. The man is scum.
And he is supposed to be a journalist. When has he ever gone out in the streets to get a story?
April 7, 2009, 12:37:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Pegleg Peggy | Homepage | 04.07.09 - 12:20 pm | #
Does KO get his distortions and out of context info from News Hounds or is it the other way around?
April 7, 2009, 12:43:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Johnny, I just posted this at media Bistro.
Grammie 0 minutes ago
The statistics above are very confusing for the Prime Time demo:
Prime: FNC: 223 | CNN: 239 | MSNBC: 149 | HLN: 99
CNN is shown as No 1 with FNC No 2 by about 10%.
But in the details for that FNC outdraws CNN in every time slot, if I am reading the CNN numbers for the 9 and 10 slot:
Prime: FNC: 223 | CNN: 239 | MSNBC: 149 | HLN: 99
5p: 6p: 7p: 8p: 9p: 10p: 11p:
FNC NewsHQ: FNSunday: Report: Huckabee: Hannity: Geraldo: Huckabee:
206 246 225 244 203 221 225
CNN Zakaria: Newsroom: Newsroom: Presents: Newsroom: Presents: Hughley:
172 220 158 227 262 198
So, what gives?
April 7, 2009, 1:21:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I don't think Olbermann feels a speck of guilt over the difficulties he caused Alexa, her family, and the foundation.
The money he gave is a gesture to negate that charge against him and as a means to continue his attempt to humiliate O'Reilly.
It's the same gesture he made when he showed up on NBC's SNL to "watch" while the crew was rehearsing their stinging parody of him.
It's the same gesture he made when he handed Clinton a check in order to enlist him in making further criticisms against FNC and Chris Wallace.
It's the same gesture he makes in brooking no political opposition on his show and in using the program as a battering ram against his enemies.
Giving the money was just one more dominance gesture from Keith Olbermann. One more attempt to control the issue and to corner and debase the people he hates.
He's made an entire cable channel into a nine year old's version of making himself club president in his own little tree house.
April 7, 2009, 1:33:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
Classy....Not only do we know Keith Olbermann made a donation to the foundation, but he told us how much.
In a word....classy.
Once again we see Olbermann using a fine organization as a personal bludgeon in his hate-filled crusade against Bill O'Reilly.
I posted over at OW that his tribute to his mother did something for me that has not happened in a while....I saw him as a kind human being.....I should have waited on that conclusion until I reviewed the defining WPiTW Olbermann is usually so proud of.....He is once again a dishonest and hateful human being.
Hate...it does horrible things to people.
April 7, 2009, 1:55:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I left a voicemail for IHTAF on Wednesday and I asked if Keith really did donate to them. I said for them to call back to let me know if he did, adding I hope he didn't because he's an awful guy. I haven't heard back and I think it's because I said I hope he didn't really donate money to them. Now that I think of it, wishing someone, no matter who they are, doesn't donate to a worthy cause (as long as they're not a terrorist sympathizer) is worse than the crusade against that cause that Keith co-led. So, I am sorry I left that message.
April 7, 2009, 2:12:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
GrandpaD
Grammie | 04.07.09 - 1:26 pm |
Only 8, 9, and 10 are prime time. Using those hours, and giving "newsroom" at 9 a 227, the math works out.
April 7, 2009, 2:15:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Thanks, Gramps.
I did misread the individual time slots.
April 7, 2009, 3:01:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Pegleg Peggy
Mike C. | Homepage | 04.07.09 - 2:17 pm | #
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That is absolutely hilarious. Here you have all been spinning like mad, for your own political purposes, that those of us who protested against O'Reilly by simply asking the foundation to please replace him as the speaker were trying to harm the foundation and Alexa herself. None of us called for a boycott, none of us called for a picket on the event, and no-one publicly called for people not to donate, and then one of your mainstays goes and leaves a message like that. ROFL!!!
Chimeri, I presume you phoned back and apologized.
April 7, 2009, 3:21:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Where was the First Lady this morning?
I haven't heard anything about her one way ot the other today. Did she go to Iraq with the President or return home on a separate flight?
Either way I would think her activity today would be news worthy.
April 7, 2009, 3:26:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Peg, don't we have a little unfinished business?
Pegleg: "I pointed out exactly where Dollar was lying.... [vulgarity deleted]"
J$: I must have missed that, so please be specific and point to where I was "lying".
Pegleg: OTTOMH I can't remember what I was referring to, I'll have a look and get back to you later.
Still waiting for you to 1. identify where I was lying, and B. where and when you pointed it out exactly. When you said 'get back to you later' I hope you didn't mean 'later', like 2010.
April 7, 2009, 3:27:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
What's not hilarious,Peggy, is your using the words of a guy who just showed far more insight than you, as a bludgeon against him and a cover for yourself.
Rather like the way Patrick excuses his stalking and his issuing of the vilest sort of pejoratives against women and gays, based upon his argument that his target justifies his scatter gun hatred and bigotry.
Mike publicly denounces a mere personal and private wish on his part, yet you don't have the insight nor the honesty to acknowledge that there is no way a public crusade like your's could have a positive effect on the IHTAF, other than inspiring giving from people hoping to stave off the damage you could cause!
You can't even acknowledge, let alone accept responsibility for, the obvious cause and effects of your own decisions. You just simplistically and cluelessly argue that you never expressly TOLD anyone NOT to donate to IHTAF!
Mike is a handful, no doubt. Imperfect and often petty, just like the rest of us (including yourself), and you're only too glad to throw that in his or someone's face when you can. All the while folding your hands in utter blinkered toxic self-satisfaction.
He's worth a thousand of you.
April 7, 2009, 5:14:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
CotD.
April 7, 2009, 5:22:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I donated to IHTAF last month and donated again today.
April 7, 2009, 5:26:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Cecelia | 04.07.09 - 5:19 pm | #
What MikeC did shows that he is a class act. Excellent post Cecelia.
April 7, 2009, 5:37:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Thanks, Cece, even though I'm a handful.
April 7, 2009, 5:56:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ok then
Those who give to worthy causes out of the goodness of their hearts do not advertise it.
Those that give and "brag" have ulterior motives behind their gifts.
Keith Olberman's existence is one big ulterior motive.
April 7, 2009, 6:52:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Brothermark and Halfpint have finally come to know why Patsy is Patsy.
"Once again AAP puts the full weight of his schizo-effective, bipolar with OCD featured brain on the job and, as usual, arrives at an erroneous conclusion. It was inevitable that he prove the very point of the post where I named for the troll he is, not Aunty Em. Listening to the little voices in his head allowed him to attack Aunty Em & UKLD and spread ever so much more trollshit on yet another thread. Inevitable.
I do wish he'd stick to the J$ thread which by all accounts is much more suited to his insane ravings.
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Libertarianism is the philosophy which says you can run your life better than the government can and you should have the right to be left alone in order to do so.
Posted by: brothermark on Tue 4.7 11:08am
I'm with Notvery and Anisha, don't say it if you can't say it face to face without getting punched in the mouth, AAP has a bad habit of doing just that on all threads if he wants to troll the J$ thread he can but he should have to watch the offensive language no matter where he is and so should the rest, we do the F-bomb thread for that kind of language don't we?
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Posted by: Halfpint on Tue 4.7 11:10am"
Patsy got his name from me b/c he is a one trick pony and I once had a friend who owned a pony who could curtsy/bow named Patsy.
Everything Patsy touches turns to the same old Patsy s**t that he is obsessed with.
Which is why for almost a year I responded to every comment he made with Thanks Patsy. In fact quite a few other commenters started doing it. No surprise that Patsy revved up his profanity more and more. It is the nature of The Patsy Beast!
April 7, 2009, 11:29:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Grammie,
That's a great story.
I had thought that Patsy's name came about by using the diminutive of Patriot (Average American Patroit) -- patriot-- pat-- patsy AND implying that Patsy is a stooge. Stooge-- a 'patsy'.
I love that he's actually named for a one-trick-pony. What could be more suitable. And goodness knows we've had enough experience with his insanity, via OW, for a life time.
I think the more commonsensical NHers are seeing Patsy for what he is.
To use another animal analogy, Patsy TRULY is an absolutely demented monkey. He will resort to any tactic to deflect, deceive, and distract, especially when you're on to him.
Cavorting, shrieking, and throwing feces, he fouls the environment of his foes and erstwhile friends alike.
Run like hell from him, folks!
April 8, 2009, 9:52:36 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Check this out:
Grammie and I started confronting Peggy because she was aiding and abetting a group of puerile lurid cretins posting messages that any mature adult would immediately ascertain to be completely out of control, and NOW she's saying she's saying sorry after Ellen FINALLY said something!
Notice how she's mounted a defense of herself by claiming she takes her cues from OTHER posters on a blog site!
If THAT doesn't say it all, I don't know what would...
Well, Peggy, a few of your friends-- Aunty Em and Captain America--specifically, have a more highly evolved sense of standards than THAT!
BTW-- Thanks for finally becoming concerned about "vile" posts, Ellen, after your readers made an issue of it!
April 8, 2009, 11:11:56 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Run like hell from him, folks!
Cecelia | 04.08.09 - 9:57 am | #
Sorry Cecelia, but I cannot agree.
I never run from a barking little toothless dachsund.
April 8, 2009, 11:29:41 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
He will resort to any tactic to deflect, deceive, and distract, especially when you're on to him.
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Just like the hagster does. Identical mo.
April 8, 2009, 11:45:32 AM EDT – Like – Reply
shizzle
It's a good thing this site is focused on cable news and not personal attacks. Any chance of talking about how batsh**t crazy Glen Beck sems to be?
April 8, 2009, 11:59:14 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Any chance of talking about how batsh**t crazy Glen Beck sems to be?
shizzle | 04.08.09 - 12:04 pm | #
Can you elaborate?
April 8, 2009, 12:37:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
shizzle | 04.08.09 - 12:04 pm | #
Maybe he's crazy, maybe he's not, but he sure is becoming popular.
April 8, 2009, 12:42:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I have a Glenn Beck video in today's thread that's already being discussed, but shiz wants to move here to yesterday's thread to discuss Beck?!? I wonder why.
April 8, 2009, 12:44:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
shizzle
have a Glenn Beck video in today's thread that's already being discussed, but shiz wants to move here to yesterday's thread to discuss Beck?!? I wonder why.
Because i'm bored reading all the personal attacks (that you supposedly don't allow) and was interested in talking about something cable news related--like the insane Beck. I wasn't aware of the discussion on the other thread because it seems like the last 5 or 6 posts on this site happend on this thread. It seems most of your readers are more interested in personal attacks and you seem interested in allowing them to continue instead of taking the discussion back to cable news...I wonder why.
April 8, 2009, 1:00:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
shizzle
"Maybe he's crazy, maybe he's not, but he sure is becoming popular."
He seems to be. I wonder what his ratings are? It's funny, because on occasion he almost touches on an interesting point and then--zoom right back to crazy land. I also found his hypocrisy regarding 9-11 a little sickening. What do you find interesting about him, if you don't me asking?
April 8, 2009, 1:02:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I have a Glenn Beck video in today's thread that's already being discussed, but shiz wants to move here to yesterday's thread to discuss Beck?!? I wonder why.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 04.08.09 - 12:49 pm | #
It's our little net operative Haggis' day off...
April 8, 2009, 1:03:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
We don't allow personal attacks on other posters. Have you been attacked personally?
If you want to discuss Glenn Beck I don't know what's stopping you. If you want to complain about subjects that don't interest you, then why not talk about one that does?
BTW, websites devoted to cable news, like tv newser, ICN, or NH, are cable news topics. I'm sure you know that, but now you know that I know that you know that.
April 8, 2009, 1:05:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Any chance of talking about how batsh**t crazy Glen Beck sems to be?
shizzle | 04.08.09 - 12:04 pm | #
And what are your credentials regarding whether Beck is crazy or insane? If you're not a professional in the area I suggest you drop the subject.
April 8, 2009, 1:12:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
shizzle
If you want to discuss Glenn Beck I don't know what's stopping you. If you want to complain about subjects that don't interest you, then why not talk about one that does?
I did, I talked about Glen Beck. And it seems the last time i was here there was a lot of complaints from your regulars about subjects that didn't interest them, why didn't they get the same response?
"BTW, websites devoted to cable news, like tv newser, ICN, or NH, are cable news topics. I'm sure you know that, but now you know that I know that you know that."
Thanks for the info, I new about NH, not the rest i will check them out as well.
April 8, 2009, 1:20:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
shizzle
And what are your credentials regarding whether Beck is crazy or insane? If you're not a professional in the area I suggest you drop the subject."
I have a degree in Psychology.
I'm glad to know that you will refrain from ever calling a MSNBC personality crazy though.
April 8, 2009, 1:28:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
shizzle
We don't allow personal attacks on other posters. Have you been attacked personally?
oops, I almost let this drop. No, I wasn't attacked personally.
So it is not off topic to attack people on other sites?
April 8, 2009, 1:34:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Why do I bother posting rules if people don't read them? Any further questions you have about the rules, you have two options: 1. take your question to email, and B. read the rules.
April 8, 2009, 1:39:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
I have a degree in Psychology.
I'm glad to know that you will refrain from ever calling a MSNBC personality crazy though.
shizzle | 04.08.09 - 1:33 pm | #
Does your degree include giving medical advice based on a TV appearance of a man you have never met?
April 8, 2009, 6:08:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
Has the good Psychologist changed the spelling of his moniker?
April 8, 2009, 8:08:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
