3/3/09 1:21 PM

Wednesday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

Tuesday's numbers: Hannity down 30%.

Point, counterpoint.

Flood of visitors overloads FBN site.

Chat with Chuck.

CNN merger? Doubtful (via TVN).

Hannity: HD and more.

Mike Tobin busted.

Strategy Room overhaul.

Reena Ninan's Gaza Diary.

MSNBC infiltrates Starbucks. Enough with the smug gloating!

Q&A: Glenn Beck.

Hotline after dark.

CNBC adds options.

Hannity Poll results.

NBC shuts down OlbermannWatch youtube account?


Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




Olby Sucks
Terrorist videos are allowed to stay and videos exposing olbermanns daily lies, the days he shows up that is, are off limits? Go figure. Gee, I wonder who flagged them...........
January 14, 2009, 1:20:51 AM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Damn those copyright laws...They're most inconvenient....aren't they. But I'm sure a nice conspiracy will be dreamt up by the regulars here and at OW....OS will probably start the ball rolling momentarily
January 14, 2009, 8:41:19 AM EST – Like – Reply


cee
Poor, poor Olbermann. He and his corporate bosses have to resort to Stalinist tactics to thwart the truth.
 
I am sure the positive spun COUNTDOWN clips remain untouched in the blogosphere.
 
Once again we see the true nature of today's "Murrow."
January 14, 2009, 8:43:42 AM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Johnny....just wondering what was wrong with that previous post...It wasn't supposed to be taken that seriously.
January 14, 2009, 9:18:59 AM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
cee | 01.14.09 - 8:48 am |
 
I really don't think Stalinist tactics had anything to do with the shutting down of the account...The more lightly reason is HULU.  
OW could also embed the required videos straight from MSNBC...No problems then.
January 14, 2009, 11:04:53 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 8:46 am | #  
 
I started the ball rolling in my first post, baba o'reilly.
January 14, 2009, 11:06:58 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
OW videos of Olbermann were comparative: putting together something he said at time X with what he said at time Y. Or comparing his claims about A with the reality of A. Or stringing together a series of things, like his racial slurs. Very few were just slices of Olbermann. When that was wanted OW would just use the embed versions from NBC.
 
That said, I've noticed this sort of sensitivity from other channels as well. It's kind of a chilling erosion of fair use.
January 14, 2009, 11:21:33 AM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
It's kind of a chilling erosion of fair use.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.14.09 - 11:26 am |  
 
I 100% agree with you there...But if your editing clips and not showing them how they were originally shown...then maybe "fair use" doesn't apply in those circumstances.  
If that's not the reason then just fall back on the Rights usual reply to this sort of thing...It's the left wing media again.
January 14, 2009, 11:32:20 AM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Just a thought here...You could always host the files on something like rapidshare...Then post the link for folk to download them....This won't get around copyright...as these hosting companies delete stuff if it's flagged up.
January 14, 2009, 11:44:03 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
haggy, how did you come up with the nme 'bababooey?'
 
Anywho haggy, I believe OW does play olbermann clips the way "they were originally shown." They are only "edited" to show the important parts. Do you think the full hour of your favorite show, countdown, should be posted on utube just to expose orange ones slanders, lies and racial slurs? Correct me if I'm wrong, Johnny.
January 14, 2009, 12:13:51 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
" They are only "edited" to show the important parts.
Olby Sucks | 01.14.09 - 12:18 pm |
 
OS...sorry to point out the obvious here....if the clip have been edited then they're not being shown in there original form...You need to ask the copyright holder for permission to do that sort of thing.
January 14, 2009, 12:23:59 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Johnny, just curious. Have any accounts at utube held by olbermann defenders/nut lickers been taken down?
January 14, 2009, 12:29:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
haggy, how did you come up with the nme 'bababooey?'
Olby Sucks | 01.14.09 - 12:18 pm |
 
Sorry OS....It's not me
January 14, 2009, 12:29:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Does starbucks even have 650 stores left to simulcast obamas inauguration?
 
I heard yesterday it's not going to be all it was cracked up to be. 6 million people estimated has been downgraded to around 2 and there are still vacancies in many hotels.
January 14, 2009, 12:42:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Olby Sucks | 01.14.09 - 12:18 pm | #  
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
 
I am not Haggis Farmer
January 14, 2009, 12:43:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
"We don't give a shit about olbermann!"
 
by newshounds
 
Really?
 
http://forum.newshounds.us/viewtopic.php?t=25815
January 14, 2009, 12:46:41 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"if the clip have been edited then they're not being shown in there original form...You need to ask the copyright holder for permission to do that sort of thing."
 
Actually it's exactly the opposite. Clips of an entire show cannot be used because of copyright violation. Clips that are edited down to illustrate specific points or single out stuff are an exception to the copyright law, called 'fair use'. Maybe the laws are different over in the Scottish bogs.
January 14, 2009, 12:49:47 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.14.09 - 12:54 pm |
 
I wasn't talking about single clips....You can get those at KO site easily enough....I was talking about editing part of 1 clip together with another clip.
 
The Scottish bogs....The heart of a good whiskey.
January 14, 2009, 12:56:51 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Doesn't Haggy use a ton of O'Reilly clips on his youtube channel? Where is his "Damn those copyright laws...They're most inconvenient....aren't they. But I'm sure a nice conspiracy will be dreamt up by the regulars here and at OW...." about himself?
January 14, 2009, 1:00:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Ashley | 01.14.09 - 1:05 pm |
 
I've not been caught yet....That's the trick...But I'm sure you'll now be beetling off to Fox to point them in the direction of these clips....But I think you'll find I'm covered under "fair use"
January 14, 2009, 1:10:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Bababooey | 01.14.09 - 12:48 pm | #  
 
Yea, ok.
January 14, 2009, 1:19:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 1:15 pm | #  
 
Nope, not me, I'm a firm believer in fair use. Too bad that your friends over at MSNBC don't feel the same way I do.
January 14, 2009, 1:26:11 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
My team of investigators just informed me that this Olbermannwatch.com/youtube thingy is cearly a partisan issue and another attempt to squash free speech by the liberal media. In other words, liberal hypocrisy. 8)
January 14, 2009, 1:27:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
By the way Haggis - after more than a month of searching, have you finally found that Bret Baier information you promised us?
January 14, 2009, 2:10:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Re: smug gloating.
 
Good article and appropriately tagged under "ENTERTAINMENT" vs. politics or US news or reality TV.
January 14, 2009, 3:11:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Olby Sucks | 01.14.09 - 1:32 pm | #  
 
And tell us who are your team of investigator. No Proof.  
Shocker!
January 14, 2009, 3:25:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Ashley | 01.14.09 - 2:15 pm |
 
There's so much stuff to work through....and I'm just back to work...There just isn't enough hour in the day....but i'll be reporting soon.
January 14, 2009, 4:01:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
MSNBC infiltrates Starbuck
 
This headline is a might over the top don't you think. Are you saying MSNBC are surreptitiously entering enemy-held territory? I don't think so.
January 14, 2009, 4:08:41 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Olby Sucks | 01.14.09 - 1:32 pm |
 
And what about the conservative media, they have never tried to censor? I am sure they have.  
Also Sarah Palin saying she was treated fairly untreated by the media is laughable, she should be mad at the McCain campaign for not protecting her. When she started going off script is when she sunk the campaign.
January 14, 2009, 4:11:41 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Damn those copyright laws...They're most inconvenient....aren't they. But I'm sure a nice conspiracy will be dreamt up by the regulars here and at OW....OS will probably start the ball rolling momentarily
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 8:46 am | #  
 
THIS from a guy who drops hot coffee on his lap every morning because he sees the visages of Bill O'Reilly, Rupert Murdoch, and Karl Rove floating in his cup...
January 14, 2009, 4:12:54 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"This headline is a might over the top don't you think. "
 
Yes.
January 14, 2009, 4:24:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Cecelia | 01.14.09 - 4:17 pm |
 
As usual my analysis is spot on and Cecelia can't refute it...So she starts talking about faces in cups...The mind boggles....Please explain yourself.
January 14, 2009, 4:37:29 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.14.09 - 4:29 pm |
 
So what are you really saying with such a headline?
 
Mind you your post was a 1st...You agreeing with me.
January 14, 2009, 4:42:27 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
As usual my analysis is spot on and Cecelia can't refute it...So she starts talking about faces in cups...The mind boggles....Please explain yourself.
 
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 4:42 pm | #  
 
Yes, let me explain to you the complex expression I made above:
 
You're a fine one to be talking about people putting the most conspiratorial spin on something.
January 14, 2009, 4:51:44 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
So what are you really saying with such a headline?
 
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 4:47 pm | #  
 
He saying that the commie insurgents at MSNBC have taken over the latte business...
 
(see what I mean...)
January 14, 2009, 4:53:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Cecelia | 01.14.09 - 4:56 pm |
 
I put NO spin what so ever in my original post...just the facts. The conspiracies I was referring to were going to come from regulars here and over at OW...Hence me saying "But I'm sure a nice conspiracy will be dreamt up by the regulars here and at OW"
 
So please explain why you're trying to twist my original post?
January 14, 2009, 5:02:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
He saying that the commie insurgents at MSNBC have taken over the latte business...
Cecelia | 01.14.09 - 4:58 pm |
 
Cecelia...again your analysis is incorrect...MSNBC & Starbucks are teaming up to air the inauguration...So if your teaming up...how can you be infiltrated by insurgents? + That's a terrible way to speak of hard working Americans.
January 14, 2009, 5:09:26 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Bob Cox has rebutted all the "spot-off" (thanks, Ashley!) analysis Haggis acquired from Jossip.
 
Notice under Bob's comment there is a strawman sockpuppet one.
 
http://tinyurl.com/7vkoxm
January 14, 2009, 5:20:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I wasn't twisting your post, Einstein, I was pointing out the irony of YOUR accusing other people of leaping to far-fetched conclusions.
 
Your "analysis" on Johnny's tongue-in-cheek headline is a wonderful example of that.  
 
Thanks.
January 14, 2009, 5:24:50 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
"Haggis acquired from Jossip"
 
I'm afraid your wrong yet again...I'd never heard of Jossip up until you posted that link.
 
The long and short of the whole thing is MSNBC have the right to get their material taken down from Youtube....They post all the video clips of every show on their own Olbermann site. And I really don't think MSNBC are concerned about an unknown site called OlbermannWatch.
January 14, 2009, 5:37:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Olbermann did a nice job naming Bill as WPitW last night...It hysterical watching Fox trying to justify torture by airing a speech made by a fictional character on a fictional TV show. Keith should have thrown the Friend in with Bill for a double.
January 14, 2009, 5:43:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
As Bob C. pointed out, that will be more believable if and when all the Olbermann fan site Countdown content comes off Youtube.
January 14, 2009, 5:49:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I really don't think MSNBC are concerned about an unknown site called OlbermannWatch.
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 5:42 pm | #  
 
Next time you're over there ceck out the top ofthe page:
 
"Still the #1 Keith Olbermann Blog In The World!"
January 14, 2009, 5:56:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Olbermann did a nice job naming Bill as WPitW last night...
 
Watching my grass grow is a hundred times more exciting.
January 14, 2009, 5:58:21 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Next time you're over there ceck out the top ofthe page:
"Still the #1 Keith Olbermann Blog In The World!"
Olby Sucks | 01.14.09 - 6:01 pm |
 
So...Anyone can write that on their own blog...Doesn't really mean much.
January 14, 2009, 6:01:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
It's quite the coincidence that NBC goes after Olbermannwatch after so many years, and they do it just days after J$ and company do one heck of a job illustrating Olbermann's dishonesty.
January 14, 2009, 6:05:22 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Olbermann did a nice job naming Bill as WPitW last night...HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 5:48 pm | #  
 
While Bill O'Reilly covers a wide range of current events topics, it seems that Keith "Czechoslovakia" Olbermann spends all of his network time talking about his man-crush, BOR. Just another reason why Olby comes in a distant 3rd behind BOR in the ratings.
January 14, 2009, 6:14:21 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Ashley | 01.14.09 - 6:19 pm |
 
Come on everyone just admit it....The factor is just tabloid news...It reminds me of the UK Sun newspaper...A light sprinkling of news on the front cover....Then from there it just descends into the gutter and by page 3 you have the daily topless girl...enough said...I'll add one more...thing this is yet another Murdoch rag.
January 14, 2009, 6:27:34 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
So...Anyone can write that on their own blog...Doesn't really mean much.
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 6:06 pm | #  
 
Maybe you should head on over to OW and call Bob Cox a liar.
January 14, 2009, 6:30:41 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
The best indication of the effect Bill O'Reilly has on Olbermann's psyche is this hilarious and soul revealing bit from the New York Magazine piece on Olbermann last year:
 
"Olbermann chose his office, a corner office on the fourth floor of NBC’s Rockefeller Plaza headquarters, for its view. [my highlights] From his desk, he can look out the window and see, directly across Sixth Avenue, the studios of Fox News, the broadcast home of his rival Bill O’Reilly.  
 
“Sometimes I imagine that I hear a howl coming from there,” Olbermann told me during a visit one afternoon. “I have been accused of having an obsession with him. I am a minor-leaguer compared to his obsession with me.”'
 
http://tinyurl.com/5rsoxx
January 14, 2009, 6:35:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
And don't forget the monitor embedded in the Countdown desk so that Olby can watch O'Reilly while doing his own show! (Along with sending emails and posting on Daily Kos.)
January 14, 2009, 6:39:57 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.14.09 - 6:44 pm |
 
Well that just goes to show how great Keith is at multitasking...Present a LIVE show and watch a pre-recorded show all at the same time....Masterful.
January 14, 2009, 6:46:16 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
this is yet another Murdoch rag.
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 6:32 pm | # 
 
Can you elaborate, haggy?
January 14, 2009, 6:48:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
haggy, how do you describe the skit known as "oddball?" Hard hitting news?
January 14, 2009, 6:51:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
You know these weird anti-O'Reilly freaks, Johnny. It's a obsessive love-hate attraction. 
 
Remember that eighties movie King of Comedy, where two fanatical fans kidnap that talk show host? 
 
These weirdos always remind me of that scene in the move where their obsession/victim is held hostage in Sandra Bernhardt's apartment and she has a grand ole time holding various colors up to his face to see if they suit his complexion...
January 14, 2009, 6:52:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Well that just goes to show how great Keith is at multitasking...Present a LIVE show and watch a pre-recorded show all at the same time....Masterful.
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 6:51 pm | # 
 
I'd wager his girl friend is less than impressed with Keith's "multi-tasking" O'Reilly when they're alone together at night...
January 14, 2009, 7:01:37 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Olby Sucks | 01.14.09 - 6:35 pm |
 
Rag is simply a slang term for newspaper in the UK....The NYP is another Murdoch tabloid rag....It just doesn't sell as many copies as The Sun does (daily)
January 14, 2009, 7:03:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Come on everyone just admit it....The factor is just tabloid news...thing this is yet another Murdoch rag.
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 6:32 pm | # 
 
If it was that, the Olby wouldn't pay a moments attention to it. But since he spends what seems to be a majority of his time talking about FNC, then you know he's probably spending most of his time researching FNC.
 
K"C"O is so in love with BOR.
January 14, 2009, 7:04:11 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Cecelia | 01.14.09 - 7:06 pm |
 
Cecelia....There you go again....The other night you were concerned about the length of my penis....Now your concerned about Keith's love making skills...What's the score?
January 14, 2009, 7:11:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Krazy keefy just wishes he had Bill O'Reilly's money and viewer numbers......Instead he has people like haggy watching on the internet! LOL!
January 14, 2009, 7:14:02 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
He doesn't have to watch on the internet, as long as he has his electric satellite dish plugged in.
January 14, 2009, 7:16:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.14.09 - 7:21 pm |
 
Well remembered Johnny...but the Scottish weather plays havoc with the signal...So it's easier to watch online...No trendy ads that way. 
 
Olby Sucks | 01.14.09 - 7:19 pm |
 
At least MSNBC offer this invaluable service...FNC don't.
January 14, 2009, 7:20:52 PM EST – Like – Reply


david smawley
Of course Hannity was down, Larry King Alive (for how long, who knows) had George & Laura Bush on for an exclusive & he (Larry) still could not get the top ratings. Nothing much new here.
January 14, 2009, 7:32:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
At least MSNBC offer this invaluable service...FNC don't.
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 7:25 pm | # 
 
How else can you get anyone to watch MSNBC????? Give it to them for free!
 
Imagine that - 
 
MSNBC - Free - 3rd Place (a distant 3rd)
 
FNC - Not Free - 1st Place
 
Even Haggy pays to see it!
January 14, 2009, 7:40:35 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
I am not a big follower of ratings, what is the total difference between O'Reilly and Olbermann ratings and the difference between Maddow and Hannity? I did see in the St Louis Post Dispatch the other day that Fox News was I believe the #3 cable newtwork, I think Nickelodeon was number one and am not sure what #2 was, so regardless Fox News does do well, very well I see.
Side note, since coming to this site I have started to watching Fox News a little more a while on some programs you might see a little conservative bias, it is not as bad as some like to believe.
January 14, 2009, 7:47:08 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Hannity down 30%
 
No surprise there....Folks gave it a chance the 1st night...Then voted with their remotes the 2nd night.
January 14, 2009, 7:49:16 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Electric dish, My fathed had one in like 1982, damn those Brits are behind in technology, Hey Haggy, have you guys invented fire yet.
January 14, 2009, 7:49:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Cecelia....There you go again....The other night you were concerned about the length of my penis....Now your concerned about Keith's love making skills...What's the score?
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 7:16 pm | # 
 
Woman's intuition.
January 14, 2009, 7:51:35 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
The site tvbythenumbers.com has detailed ratings info. They even have an Olbermann/O'Reilly chart that follows the numbers week by week (though I've never been able to get much out of the chart--looks like a lot of dots to me).
 
Overall, Olbermann and Grace battle for second place behind O'Reilly. Maddow and King battle for second behind H&C. O'Reilly and H&C have both held a fairly decent lead but you get the odd day here and there where either Maddow or Olby beats FNC in the demo (almost never in total viewers however). Demos, total numbers,the news demo, and all sort of other permutations further cloud the issue!
January 14, 2009, 7:51:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
I see thanks, I think Grace is getting a push from this terrible Kaylee Anthony thing in Florida, but I can only watch Grace for about five minutes before I want to throw up, so for the poor analogy. Sorry.
January 14, 2009, 7:54:22 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Woman's intuition.
Cecelia | 01.14.09 - 7:56 pm | #
 
Can't argue with that, no way, no how.
January 14, 2009, 7:55:21 PM EST – Like – Reply


THe Factor
No worries about Hannity's show. Your bound to get ups and downs with a new show. It fell by 30% because it was so high the first night. His demo's will grow. I think the liberal translation segment is kinda dumb. He should scrap it.
January 14, 2009, 8:03:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Brits are behind in technology
Bababooey | 01.14.09 - 7:54 pm |
 
That's funny....it was us Brits that invented TV and also the telephone + we also gave you the language you now speak and we also gave the world Viagra and many many more things.
January 14, 2009, 8:06:09 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Now keep your personal life out of this!
January 14, 2009, 8:07:23 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 8:11 pm | # 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
If it was for the US you would be speaking German.
January 14, 2009, 8:20:45 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Bababooey | 01.14.09 - 8:25 pm |
 
Your so right...I keep forgetting we took no part in WW2..Silly me. Seems you've been watching one 2 many Hollywood films.
 
If it wasn't for Tommy Flowers who designed and built Colossus (first true functioning electronic computer) at Bletchley Park during WW2 that solved the encrypted German coded messages...The war may have gone on for many more years.
January 14, 2009, 8:30:04 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Cecelia | 01.14.09 - 5:25 pm | #
 
I added my 2 cents to the Jossip article you and OS commented on CC.
January 14, 2009, 8:58:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
it is not as bad as some like to believe.
Bababooey | 01.14.09 - 7:52 pm | # 
 
The people scream the loudest that Fox News is crap like (goptv) are the people that don't watch. They go by what they heard at starbucks or read on some far left blog or both.
 
haggy, how do you describe the skit known as "oddball?" Hard hitting news?
January 14, 2009, 9:03:42 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Bababooey | 01.14.09 - 8:25 pm | #
HaggisFarmer | 01.14.09 - 8:35 pm | #
 
Bobabooey and Haggis, stop pretending you're Cecelia and me!
January 14, 2009, 9:07:23 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Thurs-8th
 
Hannity & Colmes –1,460,000 viewers (305,000) (571,000)
 
Mon-12th
 
Hannity–2,835,000 viewers (703,000) (1,155,000)
 
Tues-13th
 
Hannity–1,967,000 viewers (382,000) (685,000)
January 14, 2009, 9:17:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Sorry Fox Fan, but the dude, while we might be on the same side politcally is just annoying.
January 14, 2009, 9:34:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Interesting point/counterpoint links. Even more interesting that the 'point' was written by one of the "Young Turks". What a joke of a group!
January 14, 2009, 9:45:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
I'm adding my ratings to Hannity right now OS!
 
Bababooey, you and CC have something in common. LOL
January 14, 2009, 9:54:45 PM EST – Like – Reply


Solitaire
The one bad thing about the "DMCA Takedown" Notice is that Youtube automatically takes down the user rather than the offending article or video.
 
That's the one bad thing about the DMCA takedown notice at present, their is not a standard way of employing it!. Some sites take down the user responsible, others take down the offending article! 
 
Unfortunalty the DMCA is a blight on the US's 
"First Amendment" and other nations "fair use" statue.
 
p.s.
Scottish and proud :D
Newshouds :D
January 14, 2009, 9:55:45 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
DMCA=teh suck
RIAA=teh suck
MPAA=teh suck
 
Scottish= 
Newshouds= :/
January 14, 2009, 10:49:29 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Bababooey, you and CC have something in common. LOL
Fox Fan | Homepage | 01.14.09 - 9:59 pm | # 
 
It's called insight...
January 15, 2009, 1:50:46 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
FF, good comment on Jossip.
 
OS, I can't take you anywhere...
January 15, 2009, 1:54:11 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
OS, I can't take you anywhere...
Cecelia | 01.15.09 - 1:59 am | # 
 
My comment at jossip was totally out of character, but, I couldn't resist.........
January 15, 2009, 10:12:32 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Sorry Fox Fan, but the dude, while we might be on the same side politcally is just annoying.
Bababooey | 01.14.09 - 9:39 pm | # 
 
Good call, girlfriend!
January 15, 2009, 10:23:31 AM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
It's called insight...
Cecelia | 01.15.09 - 1:55 am 
 
Thanks!
January 15, 2009, 10:34:13 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Go figure. Gee, I wonder who flagged them...........
Olby Sucks | 01.14.09 - 1:25 am | # 
 
I'm sure it was because he took a clip from Daly. There is no set limit re Fair Use. And I think he'd have a decent claim that his was Fair Use. Same thing happened to us and, as I recall, goons like OS rejoiced. 
 
Turnabout is fair play, eh? 
Posted by: Ellen on Wed 1.14 11:11pm
January 16, 2009, 12:29:30 PM EST – Like – Reply