HuffPo and Kos Spread New Fox Lie!
It's a special pre-Memorial Day treat from the Fox haters. Thanks to the miracle of video editing, some obscure blog came up with a startling scoop: Fox wants to see Barack Obama assassinated! And in the Fox haters echo chamber, it only takes minutes for the story to make it to all the key blue blogs:
- White Insanity: Fox News is getting into the “let’s assassinate both Osama & Obama!” routine!
- Presidential Candidates: Fox News Contributer Wishes For Barack Obama’s Assassination
- Daily Kos: Fox News Journalist WANTS Obama DEAD
- Daily Kos: Which USA will prosecute Liz Trotta? (likely none)
- Huffington Post: FOX Pundit Wishes for Obama Assassination, Laughs
During a live interview, FOX Contributor Liz Trotta jokingly wished for the assassination of Sen. Barack Obama.The clip Mr Feldman uses is so short it virtually starts in mid-sentence:
LIZ TROTTA: and now we have what some are reading as a suggestion that somebody knock off Osama--And there it stops. Mr Feldman is, of course, outraged:
SHAWN: Obama.
TROTTA: --um Obama, well both if we could.
ERIC SHAWN: Well talk about how you really feel, but do you really think--
Trotta made known that the conclusions the public should draw were (1) that Sen. Obama and Osama bin Laden are equivalent, and (2) they both deserve to be assassinated....We would be remiss if we did not note how Feldman described the interchange:
right-wing pundits on FOX News and a variety of other broadcast outlets have regularly called the Sen. Obama by the name "Osama" in a systematic propaganda campaign to convince the American public that a sitting member of their government has secret ties to terrorists.....
The vast, vast majority of Americans do not want this kind of vile, utterly disgusting, "assassination" humor to become a recurrent part of our national debate.
Hemmer quickly corrected Trotta, having noticed that she had said "Osama" when she meant "Obama."Bill Hemmer?!? Oh well, there goes Mr Feldman's Pulitzer. Now that you know what the Fox haters want you to think, we will give you the parts of the interview they didn't want you to see:
TROTTA: The Daily News, Michael Goodwin, also said "We have seen an x-ray of a very dark soul".So are the Fox haters correct? Does Fox want to see Obama dead? Did Liz Trotta wish for his assassination? We report, you decide.
SHAWN: Oh.
TROTTA: Which is a campaign-killer if I ever heard one. Well, you know, for years the media has told us that Hillary Clinton is the smartest person in the world. And that's up for grabs now, and the media's catching on to that as well. The vast right wing conspiracy blame has been undermined by her evasions, by her outright lies if I may say, by her pandering, by her race baiting, and now we have what some are reading as a suggestion that somebody knock off Osama--
SHAWN: Obama.
TROTTA: --um Obama, well both if we could.
SHAWN: Well talk about how you really feel, but do you really think that--she didn't mean that she thinks that he going to get assassinated, and she apologized--
TROTTA: Well, that's beside the point, whether she meant it or not--
SHAWN: --and she's just using it in a historical context?
TROTTA: She's tone deaf, because it's a radioactive word. And the whole question of the first black man becoming a candidate for Presidency of the United States has all kinds of overtones and all kinds of caveats that really have to be considered in this thing. And his security has been a real issue. He's had bodyguards earlier than anybody else. Surely this woman had to know that that was a third rail to say "assassination". And it's hard to argue for her on this, because it isn't the first time she's made this step.
We emailed Mr Feldman with our concerns about the deceptively-edited clip he was using and the inflammatory, unjustified headline attached to his piece. We suggested that he embed the entire interview, not just the snippet, and even provided him with the embed code. To his credit, he replied promptly:
That was the clip brought to my attention at the time of posting. I've updated the post to include a link to the full interview.The article now does include a parenthetical link to the complete interview but the heavily clipped snippet remains the only video embedded there, and hence the only video most readers will see. Meanwhile, the incendiary headline and overwrought prose remain, and even though Mr Feldman is now certainly aware of what Liz Trotta was saying in the missing footage he is still saying nothing about it in his piece.
UPDATE: Liz Trotta apologizes. fox news huffpo kos liz
Mike Chimeri
Like I said in the Weekend Open Thread, this is another example of Fox haters propagandizing by any means necessary.
May 25, 2008, 9:14:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
Great job Dollar... I'll be sure to link to this piece, when it inevitably comes up in later debates.
May 25, 2008, 9:16:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
Hey, keep up updated on the responses you get from the various sites that want to eat this cr*p up. I'll be interested to hear their excuses for how their "selective editing" is still valid.
May 25, 2008, 9:24:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Countdown until MSNBC and CNN start reporting this as fact...9, 8, 7...
Despicable.
May 25, 2008, 9:30:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
Inside Cable News is reporting this as fact:
http://insidecablenews.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/fnc-contributor-jokes-about-possible-obama-assassination/
Please comment over there and let them know the real story.
May 25, 2008, 9:45:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
The ever-predictable newshounds just posted the story.
http://www.newshounds.us/2008/05/25/liz_trotta_jokes_about_assassinating_obama_on_fox_news.php
I think I'll go alert them of the inaccuracy.
May 25, 2008, 9:46:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I'll do that too, Mike. Thanks!
May 25, 2008, 9:47:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
SteveMG
But what exactly did Trotta mean by:
--um Obama, well both if we could.
Who is we?
Was it a stand in for Hillary Clinton? Or did she mean herself?
Very poorly chosen words.
Ms. Trotta needs to come out and correct that statement. Otherwise, Fox will have to take action.
As a sidebar, I do find it bizarre listening to many - not all - on the political left scream about assassination suggestions. This same (again, not all) left that has been silent over every crackpot wishing to shoot Bush? A film was made with an actor portraying Bush being shot; and the audiences cheered when that occurred.
So, spare me your outrage.
May 25, 2008, 9:48:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
Mike... I posted over at ICN 2.0... but it's still pending approval.
Spud's a good guy, I'm sure he will make it right.
May 25, 2008, 9:48:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Yes, the words did not come out well at one point. But the context makes it clear that she was not speaking for herself. She was rattling off a list of egregious tactics by Hillary Clinton, with the Obama assassination talk as the latest example. To spin this as TROTTA wanted to see Obama assassinated is just a flat out lie.
She has nothing to apologize for, and neither does Fox. That's not to say that one or both won't be browbeaten into doing so. It's just to say that on the merits, there is nothing to apologize for.
May 25, 2008, 9:56:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
john t
Spin it all you want Dollar. Just keep spinning.
May 25, 2008, 9:59:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
OHHH! Yes over on Dollar's site he saying it's an edited video.
john t | Homepage | 05.25.08 - 9:57 pm | #
So the clip isn't edited john t? How is it that it begins and ends mid-sentence without editing? You know, the edit that happens to invalidate the claim that Fox is calling for Obama's assassination? The full context, available right here, shows that you are naive and the NHs are liars.
They're dumb enough to think I'm J$ too as evidenced in their edit of my comment!
May 25, 2008, 9:59:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
SteveMG
She has nothing to apologize for, and neither does Fox
I think it would be wise for her to explain what she meant.
Obviously, she wasn't calling for his assassination. But given the nature of the issue, I think it'd be wise to go that extra mile.
And by Fox taking action, I mean some sort of statement.
Hey, it's the times we live in.
May 25, 2008, 10:02:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
john t
Fox Fan | Homepage | 05.25.08 - 10:04 pm
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They gave the site where you could get both short and long versions of the video.
Or don't you pay attention?
May 25, 2008, 10:05:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I wouldn't mind an explanation, though you admit that she obviously wasn't calling for his assassination. It isn't that difficult to figure out when ALL HER WORDS are included. How then to explain all the headlines claiming that she DID call for his assassination?
I HATE it when people lie about stuff like this!
May 25, 2008, 10:05:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Sure, Fox should apologize for HuffPo's lying about the context and the point at hand in the clip (Hillary's slip up). haha
May 25, 2008, 10:06:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
I find it so sad that people are so stupid that they would actually beleive that this woman is calling for Obama to die.
It's clear she just fumbled her words...
When did everyone become so stupid? Was it when Hillary got on the Today and blamed a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy for her husband's cheating?
Was it the Left's construction of a conspiracy theory to explain JKF's killing by a Communist..
I weep for this country.. this stupidity is spreading like wild fire.
May 25, 2008, 10:08:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
SteveMG
How then to explain all the headlines claiming that she DID call for his assassination?
The tribalism of politics.
In a very political age where the "gotcha" game is played for keeps.
May 25, 2008, 10:08:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
john t | Homepage | 05.25.08 - 10:10 pm | #
I did pay attention, john t. Did you?
Are you intentionally blind to the lie or are you actually incapable of discerning truth from fact?
May 25, 2008, 10:10:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply
john t
Hey Dollar, did she say this or didn't she?
"Osama ...uh..um..Obama .well both if we could"
--
May 25, 2008, 10:10:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
The tribalism of politics.
In a very political age where the "gotcha" game is played for keeps.
SteveMG
(Counting to 10 to calm myself down)
Please... grow up.
May 25, 2008, 10:10:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
It's a very odd sort of tribalism then, where Liz Trotta was actually AGREEING with the people who are calling for her head.
May 25, 2008, 10:10:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
edit: truth from falsehood
typing fast!
May 25, 2008, 10:11:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
John t:
YOU FIGURED IT OUT!!!
You're a genius !!!
She obviously wants Obama to be killed.
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Sarcasm aside...
I think these Leftists actualyl find it plausible that this woman wants him dead BECAUSE THAT IS HOW THEY THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THEY OPPOSE..
So to them it's prefectly rational for her to want someone to shoot Obama.
May 25, 2008, 10:13:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
SteveMG
Counting to 10 to calm myself down)
Please... grow up.
J$ asked me why people are taking this out of context.
My explanation is that we live in a very political time where people take advantage of poorly worded statements to bash the other.
All sides do it to varying degrees.
It's called the tribalism of politics where each side tries to beat the other.
What's your explanation, my friend?
May 25, 2008, 10:17:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
True that, VinceP. They all cheer for shooting Bush so they figure everyone is as demented, immoral, and lawless as they are! Nice job getting into the minds of those who propagate this propaganda.
May 25, 2008, 10:17:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
john t
VinceP1974 | Homepage | 05.25.08 - 10:18 pm
No, it's just you people have your panties in a wad. Because the woman said something and deserves to be called on it.
You can't stand when that happens.
May 25, 2008, 10:17:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Yea, we can't stand it when nutty blogs disseminate lies and market it as true.
May 25, 2008, 10:19:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
john t
Fox Fan | Homepage | 05.25.08 - 10:22 pm
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Show me someone that cheers about shooting Bush.
Now you're just being ignorant.
May 25, 2008, 10:20:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
john t
Fox Fan | Homepage | 05.25.08 - 10:24 pm
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Did she say this or not? Where are the lies?
"Osama ...uh..um..Obama .well both if we could"
--
May 25, 2008, 10:22:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
Show me someone that cheers about shooting Bush.
Now you're just being ignorant.
john t
And now starts the perputally shifting argument tactic.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
May 25, 2008, 10:22:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Show me someone that cheers about shooting Bush.
Now you're just being ignorant.
john t | Homepage | 05.25.08 - 10:25 pm | #
Easy. Your liberal buds over at Digg:
http://digg.com/movies/Death_of_a_President_Bush_Assassination_Movie_Debuts_in_Toronto
May 25, 2008, 10:24:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
What's your explanation, my friend?
SteveMG | 05.25.08 - 10:22 pm | #
You're right.. it's obvious.
On national TV, she's calling for the brutal murder of Barack Obama
I mean... how could it be otherwise.
May 25, 2008, 10:24:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Sorry VinceP, I fell for his predictable perpetually shifting argument tactic.
May 25, 2008, 10:24:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Did she say this or not? Where are the lies? - john t
Perhaps in the context. She was not speaking for Fox, she was speaking about Hillary's mishap.
Hardly Fox calling for Obama's assassination!
Why do we have to explain this???
May 25, 2008, 10:27:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
john t
Why can't any of you answer me?
Did she say this or not?
"Osama ...uh..um..Obama .well both if we could"
--
May 25, 2008, 10:27:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Just did, buddy.
You can apologize for your lying doghouse now.
May 25, 2008, 10:28:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
Good night, guys. Try not to tear into each other too much.
May 25, 2008, 10:28:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
SteveMG
You're right.. it's obvious.
On national TV, she's calling for the brutal murder of Barack Obama
Sorry, but you're reading someone else's comments or misreading mine.
Again: J$ asked me why some people are taking her comments out of context. As they are.
I said that because of the extreme partisan times we live in that people jump on poorly chosen words (both J$ and I agree the words were ill chosen) to bash the other side.
Your puzzling response was for me to "grow up."
Where was I wrong?
May 25, 2008, 10:29:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
john t
Fox Fan | Homepage | 05.25.08 - 10:32 pm
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".well both if we could"
That's speaking about Hillary. Good God you people are pathetic with your spin. Fox deserves you.
May 25, 2008, 10:29:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
That's speaking about Hillary. Good God you people are pathetic with your spin. Fox deserves you. - john t
That's not what I said. I said they were talking about Hillary's MISHAP. The one where she compared Obama's possibility of getting assassinated like JFK.
Spin on record against you, john t.
May 25, 2008, 10:32:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
Why do we have to explain this???
Fox Fan | Homepage | 05.25.08 - 10:32 pm | #
Because they are infantile playing their immature game of "gotcha!"
Apparently these people really believe that a participant in a discussion about if Hillary really wanted Obama to be killed... that she too wants him killed!
gah
I feel retarded just typing it.. lol..
May 25, 2008, 10:33:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
>Because they are infantile playing their immature game of "gotcha!"<
That's exactly what SteveMG was saying, and he added that it's the tribalism of politics. I think Steve is on our side, Vince. Give him a break. I think you're treating him like you did me in my early days here.
May 25, 2008, 10:46:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
VinceP and SteveMG (and J$ in this too) are involved in honest discourse. Questioning one's rationale for what they say is welcome here. As is allowing a response, unlike SOME sites.
May 25, 2008, 11:00:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
Mike: I said "they" I didn't say "Steve"
And I was responding to FF who was responding to John T.
I think you're treating me like you think I was treating him.
May 25, 2008, 11:19:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
But you told him to grow up.
May 25, 2008, 11:22:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
ICN is standing by the idea that Liz Trotta actually wanted Obama assassinated and Eric Shawn was a co-conspirator. So, I'm taking the site off my Favorites in AOL, IE, and Mozilla Firefox; and off my Blogroll.
May 25, 2008, 11:30:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Mike, please don't go off-topic. We should be discussing the falsehood that the blue blogs are perpetuating about FNC advocating Obama's assassination.
May 25, 2008, 11:30:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
Mike:
Mind your own business.
Thanks.
Grow up
May 25, 2008, 11:31:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I was responding to your 11:27...
May 25, 2008, 11:31:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
All right lets not fight among ourselves. Let's save that for the Fox haters.
And Mike, as to ICN, he may not see it as we do, but he had the decency to link to our post on the subject, something that I guarantee you the others won't. So I would counsel against reacting too strongly to a difference of opinion since he is honest enough to direct people to an opposing viewpoint.
By the way, in case anyone is interested, there are at the time of this posting there are well over 100 blog entries about this flap. I wasn't kidding when I called it the Fox haters echo chamber. Some of the titles:
Fox News Commentator Supports Assassinating Obama
Fox News Reporter Wants Obama Dead
Fox News Threatens Obama's Life
Fox News Commentator: Killing Barack Obama Would Be a Good Thing
Fox News Guest Suggests Killing Obama
May 25, 2008, 11:33:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
Sorry...again.
What I said about giving up on ICN for legitimizing this manufactured controversy is relevant, though.
May 26, 2008, 12:02:17 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
Okay, you updated your comment, Johnny. So, I'll respond. I'll need to think long and hard before I reconsider my decision to give up on ICN. I'm sorry, Spud. This is what happens when I'm a center right Fox News/BOR fan. It's easy for me to take criticism personally.
May 26, 2008, 12:11:14 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Daytona
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Edited By Siteowner
May 26, 2008, 6:14:25 AM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
The Left are like babies and need to be told common sense.
It's obvious the woman does not want Obama killed
It's obvious she would want Osama killed
As soon as she said the wrong name, she was probably embarassed, did a little laugh as to acknoweldge how dumb it was to do that, and in the course of trying to get back to waht she was saying, she said what she said.
What difference does it make what she really meant.. she didnt mean to say it at all... and it's obvious she doesn't want Obama killed.
Are you too dim to figure that out on your own?
May 26, 2008, 6:28:38 AM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
I think it's fair to assume that the slow-minded who demand to be told what she meant have never done public speaking before.
From that I conclude that they're probably not very successful in their lives and that probably explains their belligerent ignorance.
May 26, 2008, 6:33:42 AM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
The only thing to come out of this will be Liz Trotta named the worst person in the world by you know who. A badge of courage for conservative commentators. Happy Memorial Day to all!
May 26, 2008, 8:31:07 AM EDT – Like – Reply
dawndawn
Liz Trotta rules! -- Her segment on Sundays should be longer -- She is brilliant and knows the media inside and out -- To take offense at her "misstatement" is just more political correctness run amok -- This is just like junior high all over again --
May 26, 2008, 9:21:39 AM EDT – Like – Reply
latichever
Um, Mr. Dollar, what part of "both.. if we could," don't you understand? That is the context.
May 26, 2008, 10:35:31 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I understood the whole part of it. I wouldn't call that the 'context', as context is usually something more than four words. I took it as she garbled her words, they came out wrong. You can argue that she said that intentionally, that she really was wishing to see Barack Obama assassinated and thinks that's a grand idea. But when you see the entire segment it is clear she is strongly criticizing Hillary for even alluding to an assassination. It just seems to me that imakes it unlikely that she wants to see Obama killed. Despite the dozens of headlines that claim she does.
May 26, 2008, 10:39:05 AM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
When the left wishes death and destruction to the right, it's 'parody' and 'satire.' When someone on the right makes an off the cuff joke the leftists demand the secret service immediately make the arrest! Liberal hypocrisy on full display, again!
May 26, 2008, 11:49:36 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Matt Weiss
Man, you people are unbelievable. I saw the whole segment, and it was vile. I don't honestly believe Trotta would be happy if somebody killed Barack Obama, but I think she was joking as if she would. She made an offhand remark about somebody assassinating a US Senator and the first serious black candidate for President. You know it, too. She wasn't talking about anyone else.
What if I made a joke about raping your hypothetical teenage daughter. Would you have to believe I intended to really do it before punching me in the mouth, or at least calling me a name I deserved? I dunno--maybe that's the way some of you function: If a guy only *says* something about raping a fourteen-year-old but you know he doesn't *mean* it, you slap him on the back, buy him a beer and talk about how you both hate those politically correct liberals who just don't get how funny and harmless child-rape jokes are. Some values voters.
So just say it was wrong and appalling and leave it at that. Anything else makes you look pathetic and deluded.
May 26, 2008, 12:41:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
KayInMaine
Would it make you feel better if I said Mike Huckabee did say he'd like to shoot Barack Obama and he said this in front of the NRA?
When Trotta said, "...both if we could", she was suggesting that both should be killed. It wasn't a fluke. Liz is a typical jackboot licker of the Bush Regime (as Fox and many of their commenters are). She's fine with everyone dying as long as it's not a republican.
The FBI/Secret Service should be at her door right now!
May 26, 2008, 12:45:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
I love these hateful diatribes purportedly in the service of speaking against hate.
No one does irratioanl seething hatred better than the Left. Well perhaps the Muslims.
May 26, 2008, 1:01:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
anne
I know you won't post this because it goes against your Limbaugh/Ann Coulter mentality.
If you people don't realize the seriousness of words, maybe when you meet saint peter and he tells you all to go to hell you will.
Words can assassinate a person's character, words can incite violence, words can create dictaters like Hitler.
Jesus is watching and taking notes.
May 26, 2008, 1:49:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> I know you won't post this
Damn! You nailed us again.
May 26, 2008, 1:50:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
News Corpse
Despite some of the apologists here, it is clear that Trotta was making an aside that was personal. She was straying from her commentary and using the first-person plural ("...both if we could.") to distinguish the remark from her references to Clinton. Otherwise Trotta would have said "she" and likely would not have laughed gleefully at the notion.
I would agree, however that there are some ridiculous headlines stemming from this. My own says merely that Trotta joked about "knocking off" Obama. I would not have said that she was personally advocating assassination. But joking about it is pretty bad all by itself.
May 26, 2008, 1:50:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Words can assassinate a person's character, words can incite violence, words can create dictaters like Hitler.
Jesus is watching and taking notes.
anne | 05.26.08 - 1:54 pm | #
Preach that to Keith Olbermahn.
May 26, 2008, 2:00:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike Chimeri
Trotta apologized earlier today. Johnny posted the video above this post.
May 26, 2008, 2:36:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
jv
"understood the whole part of it. I wouldn't call that the 'context', as context is usually something more than four words. I took it as she garbled her words, they came out wrong. You can argue that she said that intentionally, that she really was wishing to see Barack Obama assassinated and thinks that's a grand idea. But when you see the entire segment it is clear she is strongly criticizing Hillary for even alluding to an assassination. It just seems to me that imakes it unlikely that she wants to see Obama killed. Despite the dozens of headlines that claim she does."
I'm sorry, but you are wrong and the left blogs are accurate. She is critsizing Hillary that is for sure, but to say "Well, Both is we could" seems pretty cut and dried.
What else could she have meant? The slip pf the Tongue occured when she did the typical mixing up Osama and Obama's names. But she became of where that she had mixed up two different people and STILL followed with "Both if we could" It was a telling moment where her real feelings showed.
In fact Eric Shawn agrees with us. Because he replies with "talk to us about what you really feel."
Basically she is far more guilty of what she is accusing Hillary of. and all your spinning does nothing to change that.
May 27, 2008, 8:27:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Trotta admits "she's guilty of what she's accused Hillary of" in the sense that she too was tone-deaf. Trotta thinks that HRC was tone-deaf in not understanding how the word "assassination" in context with an African-American candidate could be interpreted. She thinks that she (herself) was tone-deaf in being at ease enough in the discussion to make a flip remark.
She started her thoughts about the accusation towards Hillary with the line "now we have what SOME are reading". In that context the "joke" she made was that these people ("some") who think Hillary is capable of instigating "someone [to] knock off Obama" also think "we"------- HRC,...people who support HRC,...people who support McCain,... or people who are Fox Newsies...(name your poison...) when it comes down to the wire, would also seek to knock off Osama for political expediency ("if we could") at the very last moment too.
Someone here said it best when they said that some believe Trotta slipped up and revealed that she actually wants Obama dead because she works for Fox News and that this is the sort of thing they suspect of people who don't hold their political views. This is how they view their political opponents, therefore it's not a leap for them to suspect it of any Fox News employee too, simply because they are a Fox News employee.
This sort of hideously negative and merciless thinking reveals something far more alarming about them, than they seem capable of realizing.
May 27, 2008, 9:33:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
VinceP1974
Cecelia: It's disturbing the amount of hatred these Leftist Americans harbor toward other Americans.
May 27, 2008, 11:26:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
It is disturbing, Vince.
If they weren't so invariably slow on the uptake, it would be more disturbing... :D
May 28, 2008, 8:44:46 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mr. Music
The added context does little to soften the blow of what Ms. Trotta said. She said "both if we could" and then laughed. As the interviewer said "talk about how you really feel."
June 3, 2008, 12:43:03 AM EDT – Like – Reply
