3/3/09 1:21 PM

Thursday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

Wednesday's numbers: FNC sweeps!

Oh God: Hardball website refurbished.

Huck ridicules "MSBS".

CNN breaks embargo.

Coop vs Engel.

Zurawik blasts MSNBC/CNBC.

Murdoch biographer laid bare.

Most unctuous Maddow piece evah?

FNC widens lead. More.

Rusty Dornin resurfaces.

Fox DC changes: memo.

MSNBC 10pm: another contender.

Profiles: Alexis Glick, Campbell Brown, Rachel Maddow, Connell McShane.

Hotline after dark.

CNBC scooped by bloggers.

FBN's FOIA fight (via ICN).

Calderone v Olbermann.

Vote: Chetry v Robach.

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




Haggis
Nice to see Michael Calderone apologise for reporting wrongly that Keith said the "terrible" comment "oh God"
 
"I'll apologize to Olbermann for initially pointing the finger at him without having it confirmed."
 
I wonder if the Friends did likewise?....A simple update to their viewers would be adequate...As they left the distinct impression....yesterday...that Keith was the "oh God" whisperer.  
 
Didn't see any F&F today....So they may have done this.
February 26, 2009, 11:00:29 AM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Haggis - you are so angry over the friends and so concerned about Olbermann, why don't you ever demand Keith apologize for his smears and lies?
February 26, 2009, 11:18:31 AM EST – Like – Reply


Apologize For His Ears
Calderone should have said: "My ears told me initially it was Keith Olbermann who said it, but that turned out to be incorrect. Since my ears haven't apologized for their error yet, I'll apologize for them."
February 26, 2009, 11:24:42 AM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
While we're on apologies Haggy, and you are so concerned about wrongs being righted by way of apology, don'cha think Olbermann owes Calderone an apology for falsely claiming that that Calderone "pretended to get it right the entire time"?
 
And your apology to BOR for falsely claiming that he called President Obama a pinhead?
 
Or to Bret Baier, a fine and decent man, for your false claim that he had said something bad?
 
Or to Johnny for using his website to engage in deceptive activity?
February 26, 2009, 11:36:31 AM EST – Like – Reply


cee
Haggis, did Olbermann ever apologize to Bill O'Reilly for messing up his quote, replacing fat with facts?
 
I do not recall such an apology.
February 26, 2009, 12:04:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
why don't you ever demand Keith apologize for his smears and lies?
Ashley | 02.26.09 - 11:23 am | #  
 
Those are considered "unfortunate" to a hard core olbypologist as the hagster truly is.
February 26, 2009, 12:04:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
"I do not recall such an apology.
cee | 02.26.09 - 12:09 pm | #"
 
You probably missed it b/c it was a prime example of KO baming everyone but himself (this timethe transcript) as the guilty party. Unlike Michael KO didn't use his own ears. If he had he would have heard it for himself.
 
Poor KO. Everybody is always piching on him.
February 26, 2009, 1:01:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


cee
Was this VERY funny comment by Andy Levy, explaining why Matthews said "Oh God," covered here?.....
 
http://tinyurl.com/atl8cc
 
Hilarious.
 
".....you can't let a tingle build up forever."
 
VERO POSSUMUS!
February 26, 2009, 2:21:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 02.26.09 - 11:23 am |
 
Ashley...I'm no angry in the slightest....I just don't like seeing sloppy reporting...who ever does it.  
FNC did tell use they "verify and Check" the facts before reporting. It was early after all....maybe the verifiers/checkers hadn't surfaced....So Doocy took the decision....Another HUUUUUGE one for the great Doocy :lol:  
 
You'll all be happy to hear...My time is limited....due to golf watching.
February 26, 2009, 3:08:44 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
....I just don't like seeing sloppy reporting...who ever does it. Haggis | 02.26.09 - 3:13 pm | #  
 
Yet another yarn from Haggy that is very hard to believe, afterall, we have seen Haggis accept the poor reporting coming out of MSNBC and the lies and smears from Mr. Czechoslovakia, yet Haggis never criticises that. He apparently respects Olby for his lies.
February 26, 2009, 3:57:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
.My time is limited....due to golf watching.
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 3:13 pm | #  
 
"Golf watching" is that yet another British euphemism for what you do?
February 26, 2009, 4:18:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 02.26.09 - 4:02 pm |
 
"sloppy reporting...who ever does it."
 
Come on Ashley...have you been spanking the sauce early?....A word of warning.....Shears and sauce don't mix under any circumstance.
February 26, 2009, 4:30:29 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Cecelia | 02.26.09 - 4:23 pm |
 
Bang!!!!....1st post of the day and you're there already....This is getting a might concerning.
February 26, 2009, 4:36:59 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Cecelia | 02.26.09 - 4:23 pm | #  
 
He may be a greens keeper/windmill repairman at Goofy-Golf - Edinborough.
February 26, 2009, 4:39:19 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 4:35 pm | #  
 
Sorry Haggy - I just thought you would man up and apologize for your false smears and past deceptions. Simply, be a man about it. I was wrong.
February 26, 2009, 5:12:08 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 02.26.09 - 4:44 pm |
 
Where is this Edinborough place you speak of?  
 
Ashley...your at it again....When you start insulting....I know victory is close.
 
Ashley | 02.26.09 - 5:17 pm |
 
The BOR incident was simply a case of not hearing what he said...I was wrong.
 
Bret Baier...I've never said anything about him...I did say I might...but haven't....NO wrong doing there.
 
No deceptive activity my end....But you very deceptively cut my 3:13 pm comment to fit your wishes.....Will a apology be forth coming?
February 26, 2009, 5:30:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Observer Dan
All 8 of Olbermanns fans have lashed out at Calderone. They must not care that Olby is sleeping with his best friends daughter, whom he has been with since she was 15. Was that a bit harsh?
February 26, 2009, 5:35:59 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
No deceptive activity my end....But you very deceptively cut my 3:13 pm comment to fit your wishes.....Will a apology be forth coming?
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 5:35 pm | #  
 
No, I did not want to copy and paste your entire post, just the part relevant to my message. No big secret, anyone wanting to see your entire post can scroll upwards for about 1/10th of a second.
 
No deception from you? Do you forget already all of your lies on this site? (Chippy, stan, spider, AD, etc.), First-time poster, etc? In my opinion, you owe J$ an apology for your deceptions. At least reimburse him for his expenses in sending you to Exile Island so many times!   
 
No insult from me Haggy, I simply said that I thought you would be a man about it all, I thought wrong. But you've since done a couple of right things, but nowhere near what you should do.
 
As far as your slam against BOR, you accused him of calling BHO a pinhead. BOR did not, you were wrong. You admit you were wrong but offer no apology, yet when Calderone was wrong, you demand an apology.
 
And you still say nothing about Olby never apologizing for his lies, instead you only compliment him.  
 
And regarding Edinborough, you know what I mean. You have no standing whatsoever of getting on anyone here for spelling.
February 26, 2009, 5:51:51 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
1st post of the day and you're there already....
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 4:41 pm | #  
 
I'm sure you had gotten there there ahead...
February 26, 2009, 5:56:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


tony
"MSBS", I like it! I never heard that one.
February 26, 2009, 5:58:09 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
"No deception from you? Do you forget already all of your lies on this site? (Chippy, stan, spider, AD, etc.)"
 
Ashley your simply kidding yourself...Johnny knew all the time who Chippy & Stan were....No idea who the others are....just another wee white one...I've now come to expect that.  
 
"As far as your slam against BOR"
 
i don't think BOR reads this blog....So has no idea about my mishearing....But he was strongly insinuation President Obama was a PH....But insulted a great American pie instead....Check out some of the cooking blogs...They were outraged.  
 
"And regarding Edinborough, you know what I mean. You have no standing whatsoever of getting on anyone here for spelling."
 
At least I make an effort to spell your capital correctly...but will admit my spelling isn't 100%.
 
Aren't MSNBC great...Currently I'm catching up on Morning Joe.,...you just can't get this sort of openness on that dogs breakfast of a website over at FNC....Harsh but true.
February 26, 2009, 6:09:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Cecelia | 02.26.09 - 6:01 pm |  
 
1st thing I do every morning is strain the tater....So your probably right....but your 1st being post about it is a new record
February 26, 2009, 6:13:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
I wonder if the Friends did likewise?....A simple update to their viewers would be adequate...As they left the distinct impression....yesterday...that Keith was the "oh God" whisperer.  
 
Didn't see any F&F today....So they may have done this.
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 11:05 am | #  
 
It just occurred to me that Haggy is still wrongly claiming that the Friends accused Olbermann of being the one who said "Oh God".  
 
Here is what they actually said:
 
We don't know who said it" (Kilmeade)
"It sounded like Mr Countdown" (Doocy)
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.25.09 - 4:52 pm | #  
 
Sorry Haggy - you continue to spread false information. Your analysis is spot off.  
 
No one should apologize for saying "We don't know who said it". Do you really believe that they should apologize for saying that?
 
No one should apologize for saying "It sounded like Mr Countdown". As evidenced by many in the media and on blogs also said it sound like Olbermann, a large number of persons agree with Doocy. Do you really believe that they should apologize for saying that?
February 26, 2009, 6:22:52 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
"As they left the distinct impression...."
 
Ashley....Once again your spinning my comment...you must have misplaced you glasses and overshot this "distinct impression"
February 26, 2009, 6:28:26 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
1. Now you are claiming you were not Alabama Dem (AD)? Don't forget "stan".
 
2. Only J$ knows what you claim. Others didn't, you were deceptive.
 
3 - BOR did not refer to a pie as a pinhead. Your analysis is spot off.
 
4 - I made an effort to spell Edinburgh correctly too. I failed, but at least it came close to being phoenitically correct.
 
5 - any criticism you may have of F&F or any show on FNC for that matter is not harsh. It is simply an indication that if you hate it, a majority of viewers will love it. This theory is proven accurate by the ratings which clearly show that FNC is by far the leader in cable news, and MSNBC is a distant 3rd, practically coming in 4th in a 3 network race!
February 26, 2009, 6:28:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Wednesday's numbers show F&F getting over a million viewers. In fact, more viewers than MSNBC and CNN combined.
February 26, 2009, 6:30:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
"MSBS", I like it! I never heard that one.
tony | 02.26.09 - 6:03 pm | #  
 
It is good, I've never heard it either.
 
But since Microsoft (the MS of MSNBC) is no longer involved with NBC, Huck should simplify it to simply "BS".
February 26, 2009, 6:30:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.26.09 - 6:35 pm | #  
 
That is great news! Obviously, F&F is doing many great things. Poor Joe S. Poor Mike B.
February 26, 2009, 6:31:54 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.26.09 - 6:35 pm |
 
Well that mean there are now 1 million ill-informed viewers about the "Oh God" saga....An update is vital.
February 26, 2009, 6:32:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
As they left the distinct impression...."
 
Ashley....Once again your spinning my comment...you must have misplaced you glasses and overshot this "distinct impression"
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 6:33 pm | #  
 
We can disagree on whether or not F&F left a "distinct impression", but you absolutely left a distinct impression when you slimed Bret Baier when you wrote:
 
"Bret Baier...He did something wrong...I just can't remember what...I'll get back to you."
ChippyMinton | 12.09.08 - 5:11 pm | #
 
Which completely contradicts what you said earlier today:
 
Bret Baier...I've never said anything about him...I did say I might...but haven't....NO wrong doing there.
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 5:35 pm | #  
 
You did say something wrong about him. You falsely claimed that he did something wrong.  
 
You did not say you "might".
 
But isn't it wonderful that Fox and Friends is receiving such excellent ratings!!!!!!!! It's what happens when you assemble such a talented pool of people to work for such an excellent cable news network.
 
Excellence!
February 26, 2009, 6:39:27 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Well that mean there are now 1 million ill-informed viewers about the "Oh God" saga....An update is vital.
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 6:37 pm | #  
 
You might think that because you watch MSNBC and appear to let them decide for you. Those million peopl;e watch Fox who does the reporting and lets the viewers decide.
 
We're viewers, We know the truth. Once again, Haggy's analysis is spot off.
February 26, 2009, 6:41:32 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
I'm curious about the validity of the sub-headline about the Hardball website makeover:
 
=-=Newly Designed Site is Home for Top-Rated Political Cable Show=-=
 
What sort of macination was used to come up with that description?
February 26, 2009, 6:42:23 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
simplify it to simply "BS".
Ashley | 02.26.09 - 6:35 pm | #  
 
And FNC could be renamed....Flippant Noddle Creepers....But as this is a slur on FNC...I suppose it won't see the light of day....Unlike Ashley's slur witch appeared in seconds.
February 26, 2009, 6:44:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
"Oh God" saga....An update is vital.
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 6:37 pm | #  
 
The first one with John Denver was excellent. The second one with David Birney not so much. The third one with Ted Wass and George Burns in a dual role as God/Satan was OK.
February 26, 2009, 6:44:35 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
The new MSNBC site for Matthews says "Newly Designed Site is Home for Top-Rated Political Cable Show"
 
They are calling Hardball "Top-Rated"????
 
I can think of a few other Political Cable shows that are more top rated:
 
Beck
Baier
Smith
O'Reilly
Hannity
Greta V
 
and even though in the basement, still more top rated than Mr. Hardball
 
Olbermann
Maddow
February 26, 2009, 6:52:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Bill always wants to disparage GE and their share price.....But has he checked News Corps. lately....Down 32% overall and down 4.16% just today.
Also it's very sad that Bill wants a great American company to fail....Simply because someone there thinks differently that him...Keith in other words.
February 26, 2009, 6:53:55 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
And FNC could be renamed....Flippant Noddle Creepers....
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 6:49 pm | #  
 
Good retort Haggy. :-:
February 26, 2009, 7:03:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Also it's very sad that Bill wants a great American company to fail....Simply because someone there thinks differently that him...Keith in other words.
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 6:58 pm | #  
 
Not so, once again your analysis is spot off. BOR wants the GE stock owners to restore the company to what it once was, a great organization. If you actually watched BOR, you would know that.
February 26, 2009, 7:05:04 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Excellence!
Ashley | 02.26.09 - 6:44 pm |  
 
Ashley....Please tell us all what your putting in your rainbow happy tooter there....maybe I'll start seeing things your way once you divulge the secret. ;lol:
 
Ashley | 02.26.09 - 6:49 pm |
 
Pure waffle....We can move on....Haggis scores another easy victory. o/
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February 26, 2009, 7:07:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
"BOR wants the GE stock owners to restore the company to what it once was, a great organization."
Ashley | 02.26.09 - 7:10 pm  
 
If it's that simple....Why don't you go out and tell all stock holders to suggest to their respective companies to simply....Restore yourselves to greatness...Recession over...And great wealth enters the Ashley household. You've got to remember Bill is very simplistic with his utterances
February 26, 2009, 7:16:12 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny.....Why did you feel it necessary to edit my little man doing a victory celebration o/
February 26, 2009, 7:18:07 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about Haggis. Which is, all things considered, better than when I do.
February 26, 2009, 7:30:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.26.09 - 7:35 pm |
 
My right arm seems to get the chop....must be a haloscan bug 0 /
February 26, 2009, 7:38:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Just turn around and face the other direction.
February 26, 2009, 8:33:42 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Ashley....Please tell us all what your putting in your rainbow happy tooter there....maybe I'll start seeing things your way once you divulge the secret. ;lol:
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 7:12 pm | #
 
Well Hag, I don't know what that is, but I can speculate. And based on your comment above:
 
johnny.....Why did you feel it necessary to edit my little man doing a victory celebration o/
 
Rainbow happy tooters are something which you have a very recent familiarity with. And by recent, I mean RECENT.
February 26, 2009, 8:49:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Haggis | 02.26.09 - 7:21 pm | #
 
And once again, you don't know what you are talking about. Returning GE to greatness has nothing to do with the recession.
 
If you actually watched BOR rather than just simply complain about him based on what MSNBC says, you would know that.
February 26, 2009, 8:51:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Haggis must be a fan of ascii art too!  
 
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February 26, 2009, 9:17:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
If you actually watched BOR rather than just simply complain about him based on what MSNBC says, you would know that.
Ashley | 02.26.09 - 8:56 pm | #  
 
You know what they say, Ashley.
 
Think Progress, Media Matters, Crooks and Liars, and News Hounds, watch Bill O'Reilly so Haggis doesn't have to.....(come up with his own stik on opposition blogs)
February 26, 2009, 9:23:49 PM EST – Like – Reply